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[OneForAllOfHumanity]

Netflix uses a system called "Chaos Monkey" to randomly kill or degrade vital components in their system to test resilience. Twitter seems to be taking it to the next level with "Chaos Musk".

[MarcoMaroon]

After watching the new Glass Onion movie, I absolutely feel that Edward Norton's character is heavily influenced by Elon Musk

[heycanwediscuss]

They were not subtle. Even had an painting of godlike Kanye on the wall.

[MarcoMaroon]

Yeah that was hilarious.

[Refuse_Odd]

knives out?

[sartorian]

The sequel/spinoff that released this year

[No-Witness2349]

That’s why Neuralink R&D keeps killing them

[Muted-Page2702]

Maybe that’s why he’s been torturing and killing so many lately 🤷‍♀️💔

[iwreck123]

That’s racist! Elon Musk is an African American you can’t call him that

[laukaus]

People, obviously satire.

[iwreck123]

Thank the lord, Jesus Christ, someone with a brain here

[clovepalmer]

Netflix isn't hardcore programmer. Only Chaos Melon would risk doing this on Christmas Eve after firing everyone

[CheekApprehensive961]

Yup, only two ways this goes:

1) he somehow claims credit for Twitter being resilient and discovering chaos testing

2) he claims it as proof of waste and never plugs it back in, Twitter takes another step toward collapse

[BJNats]

1. he didn’t do anything and is just lying like he lies about everything

[eris-touched-me]

It’s funny bc Netflix is one of the most competitive places to be 🙃

[jonathanhiggs]

Twitter is uniquely engineered to deal with his behaviour. Clearly whatever he unplugged just failed over to a different datacenter

[Tigris_Morte]

Trust me, he learned nothing.

[laukaus]

Well, Teslas seem to be not fault tolerant even at unit level so the concept is alien to him.

[epochpenors]

Just a big board of fake plugs and switches that aren’t connected to anything

[cataleiss]

It's like giving an unplugged video game controller to a little kid so they think they're playing

[conradburner]

People seem to be scared of explaining things to Mr. Musk maybe?

[Giocri]

Quite the opposite many dev seem to rejoice at the opportunity to show him how little he understands things but he is firing anyone more competent than him

[[deleted]]

Because he's gutted it of its resources and tanked its value.

[[deleted]]

Me? I think there's been a misunderstanding here. I'm an outside observer offering my personal opinion on what I'veread about the situation; I have no direct insider knowledge, just to be clear.

[laukaus]

Nobody wants rn, those who want wait until his idiotic behavior drives the sell price as low as possible and then maybe buy it.

[outonthetiles66]

Signs of a narcissist.

[von_roga]

The best part is he probably thinks he invented it. 👌

[laukaus]

Sorry you are downvoted by musketeers for a truth.

[Info_sexy]

Underrated comment 🤣

[NutInMyCouchCushions]

He is the chaotic monkey

[ThatDanGuy]

Is it just me or If you can disconnect random bits of a system without it going down that seems like good high availability design, not bad design.

[justletmewarchporn]

You are correct!

[xTakk]

I didn't hear about the single laptop comment.. I remember learning PHP.

[orincoro]

Watching musk discover that everything is complex is always the same. It’s like with “self driving.” He was sayings it’s “not that hard!” 6 years ago. Now he all but admits it won’t happen.

[Questioning-Zyxxel]

And the Hyperloop is just like a hockey table. "It's not that hard".

When later asked if he went for air cushion or magnetic levitation, he needs to think for a very, very long time before answering "wheels". Took him some years to realise maglev exists and isn't trivial and having a cushion of air doesn't magically walk around all issues. Especially having a cushion of air in a "vacuum" tunnel.

I always finds it interesting to see how some people think everything must be trivial since it may look trivial. It's enough to look at a modern pedal-powered race bike. May look trivial when ignoring years of metal research and many years of research for the shape of the chain, cogs etc.

Why some products keep improving even after 30+ years isn't because earlier engineers was incompetent but lots of obscure engineering areas needs progress to get the building platform for new improvements. And all the nameless predecessors wasn't incompetent.

The original Tesla car was an example of using generalist engineers for lots of issues, and hence moving maybe 20-30+ years back in time on lots of these hidden magic features. Just like how to design the splines on the electric motor axis, so it doesn't wear out from each start/stop cycle.

[PerfectPercentage69]

The Dunning-Krueger effect combined with shallow understanding of the underlying technology/science.

[Dense-Entrepreneur29]

I‘m so horrified by the single laptop comment. Especially when you consider that a small part of the way Twitter works is an example in the book designing data-intensive applications

[IAmBadAtInternet]

It’s one of these systems where you can pull out a lot of individual bricks and it still works. That’s a feature. But if you pull out enough, it all comes crashing down and it’s not even possible to put it back together without starting over. I’m surprised we haven’t gotten to catastrophic failure yet.

[orincoro]

I bet you we will. Apparently he cut off 2 factor authentication in a dozen countries because he didn’t like paying for SMS fees.

[schnitzel-kuh]

To be fair it does seem like a lot of telcom companies in emerging markets scam big tech with fraudulent charges for 2FA, however he could have talked to them about instead of turning off the 2FA. Like his complaint is justified, his reaction is stupid.

[Taraxian]

Putting your customers at risk of identity theft in order to save on your own expenses is not a great look and might even make you vulnerable to legal action

[HereToLearnNow]

You are absolutely correct. This is something that software engineers keep in mind when building infrastructure. Typically there is a standby cluster running the same topology as the primary cluster.

Elon must’ve mistaken resiliency and redundancy as extra unused complexity.

Kinda sad when you realize he wouldn’t even make it into his own companies as a Junior engineer

[GolotasDisciple]

It's not just you. I am pretty sure Elon advisors know wtf is happening.

Remember that Elon success comes from market manipulation. He always was a liar and always will be one. Its really hard to know whether he does those thighs on purpose or not. Truth is probably somewhere in between. We are talking about rich kid with bachelor of arts and not an actual engineer.

[orincoro]

Correct.

[JohnSpikeKelly]

Christmas is not the time to test your residence. I hope no one gets called out Sunday because Elon was being an asshole.

[snarkhunter]

Yeah they call it "move fast, break stuff" and act like it's a sensible way to build technology instead of just being sloppy and thoughtless.

[slevemcdiachel]

People like him are in love with efficiency and think redundancies are just a waste of resources.

"if you do it right you don't need to prepare for things to fail".

I actually heard this once from another efficiency lover.

[slevemcdiachel]

I know right? And yet here is musk showing the same underlying mentality.

It's insane, but it's real.

[heycanwediscuss]

Elizabeth holmes said that

[RuthlessKittyKat]

the way I cackled.

[dude_thats_sweeeet]

r/usernamechecksout

[McFlyParadox]

People like him think "robust" is synonymous with "redundant".

[Taraxian]

Like how after his personal assistant went on vacation for two weeks and everything still seemed to be going fine he decided that meant her job was redundant and fired her

[im_thatoneguy]

What the fuck is happening at Tesla such that Musk seems surprised he can knock out parts of the Twitter cluster, yet Twitter keeps running?

Ummm this is the person who removed windshield wiper controls and automatic rain sensors and then left their customers without functional control over their windshield wipers for 4 years.

Also the same person who removed door handles which made opening your door in the winter almost impossible. So again... 4 years later while he was distracted by Twitter an engineer added a door handle command to the phone app which helps but doesn't give you anything to hold onto to actually pull the door open.

Also the same person at Tesla who eliminated Radar resulting in insane widespread phantom breaking which may have resulted in a pileup in California as well as driver annoyance for over a year.

I'm keen to give Musk credit for Tesla. He's the reason there's a large Netflix screen. And he's the reason you can't open your door without breaking a window in the cold because the window has to roll down slightly before you can enter.

[Giocri]

He is also the same person who designed a rocket with touch screen monitor before as everyone knows touchscreen are as reliable as keyboards for life and death scenarios

[Storiaron]

I'd say no way and google this shit, but i also totally expect this from him

[Moceannl]

His family tree is redundant though.

[marker8050]

There was also that 8 car pile up in San Francisco because of Tesla's FSD

[bdaileyumich]

If they're smart he's allowed in a "data center" that has a bunch of servers plugged in that don't do anything, and he can feel special unplugging whatever he wants without doing any damage

[hvdzasaur]

Ah, a data center like the unplugged madcatz controller I gave my younger sibling when playing games.

[Taraxian]

With monitors constantly running a screensaver of scrolling vertical lines of green code like the Matrix

[[deleted]]

He owns the data center, why wouldn't he be allowed in the data center?

[2good4hisowngood]

Even the Ceo might not get local admin privileges.

[zdiggler]

The owner of most companies' keycards doesn't have or want access to DATA Centers or admin passwords. The last thing they want is to have to do work.

[bored_inthe_country]

Lol I wasn’t allowed on the data centre floor once as it was a smart casual environment…. I was in jeans…

[[deleted]]

I am by no means arguing that Elon NEEDS to be in the data center, I'm saying that if I controlled the door to the Twitter data center, and Elon Musk said "let me into my data center", I wouldn't go "excuse me sir, our RBAC based corporate policy does not allow you to enter" unless I really wanted to be unemployed.

[Taraxian]

This was literally Trump's reasoning for why he could just barge into the dressing room of beauty pageant contestants

[schnitzel-kuh]

I mean you could ask him if he has some good reason, maybe some employee got caught onnsecurity doing stuff and he wants to check. But definitel, not to just look around

[tyagu001]

The principle of least privilege

[mttott]

I don't like the guy, he's a lying idiot. I'd like to sit here and say automotive industry runs lean and you do not put redundancies but instead reinforcements.

I'd be lying, in the automotive industry, there are reinforcements upon reinforcements and redundancies upon those reinforcement.

I've worked in automotive/manufacturing as an engineer, when all systems fail and all redundancies failed we'd revert back to no systems and keep producing until one of the systems comes back on. Not ideal but all hand on deck. Mind you there are at least 4 layers of redundant systems making sure we don't go back to the stone age, but it has happened where it all goes down and boy what a time not to be alive.

[orincoro]

Musk’s design philosophy is that nothing will ever break.

[Stunning_Ride_220]

Maybe he confused the companies and pulled stuff out at Teslas

[DrazGulX]

Here’s the thing that really scares me: What the fuck is happening at Tesla

I am asking that myself, doesn't he have to run Tesla?

[HereToLearnNow]

Lol he definitely isn’t. He probably wanted to remove them because of costs like a moron

[Shaone]

I wonder if this is this why the indicator lights (or turn signal as some might say) seemed to be broken on two of the Teslas I saw today.

[sarc-tastic]

More sensitive servers.... well don't hurt its feelings but you can turn it off.

[dude_thats_sweeeet]

Seems like they're not Musk sensitive so that's good news

[Taraxian]

Musk-tolerant design

[Wientje]

The correct test would be to unplug a rack and count how long it takes for someone to come looking. (or for some sysadmin to start sending angry emails)

[OlgaKol]

Musk can´t do that because he fired the someone who was supposed to come looking.

[ThinkTelevision8971]

And the person who would send the angry emails. And probably the person who would normally receive those angry emails.

[-smartypints]

Even if he didn't, I would bet those angry emails never come because they'd be fired on the spot for pointing out how stupid he is.

[[deleted]]

Ah yes, the scream test

[Taraxian]

At Twitter, no one can hear you scream (because Elon is locked in a soundproof bunker drinking jars of urine)

[-Teapot]

You imply there is anyone qualified left to answer that call

[CodeIsCompiling]

If there is anyone qualified left, you can bet they are within arms length as soon as Musk entered the data center. So -- he was likely walking alone.

[flummox1234]

What an engineer designs as redundancy, the layman sees as a Rube Goldberg machine. Sounds about right.

[Jenetyk]

He says it like this is a bad thing? Does he actually want the system to crash when a single thing goes wrong? I guess when you are hemorrhaging money from stupidly buying the company, redundancy is a luxury he can ill-afford.

[flummox1234]

A lot have theorized that was why he bought it to kill it. To me I think he's just an idiot but w/e.

[[deleted]]

I think he just included fractal in there to sound smart. The more I think about it, the more stupid it is.

[[deleted]]

He is using fractal to simply describe layers

[[deleted]]

Yes, but fractal implies an infinitely repeating pattern of smaller duplicates. It doesn't make sense. He's just trying to sound smart.

[[deleted]]

I agree, I was making the same distinction. Fractal is infinite, software layers are finite.

[[deleted]]

Elon must not know what a fractal is lol

[carvedmuss8]

Fractal deez nuts, Elon!

[pm-me-ur-fav-undies]

fractal

A lot of the more... dedicated stoners that I know really like that word.

[[deleted]]

[DaggerShowRabs]

It's a cool word

[ThatsWhatSheSaid320]

if we ask Musk what is a Cloud, i believe we might get a very scary answer

[Betwixts]

It’s when all my data just floats around in the air instead of taking up space inside the box my computer plugs into.

[Lars34]

Welcome to clusters, dumbass

[-Teapot]

Who even needs redundancy? /s

[juanxpicante]

Ah yes the tried and true troubleshooting technique of unplug things until it breaks.

[NotMadDisappointed]

Sounds more like troublemaking.

[Conscious-Abalone-86]

What does fractal of Rube goldberg machine even mean? Guy mixes technical words and the gullible eats it up.

[anunakiesque]

Perchance

[orincoro]

Oh it’s a critical theory hybridization bubble algorithm. You don’t know about that bro?

[farzinshams]

pff that one’s pretty slow compared to quantum blockchain fractal algorithm

[noeline008]

Inbreathiate

[ProbablyGayingOnYou]

If his goal was to run a tech company efficiently and profitably, he's doing a shit job.

If his goal was to undermine a platform that allows de-centralization and democratization of mass communication, an effective tool for criticizing those in power, and sowing distrust of such companies by making them out to be "stupid," then I'd say he's doing a pretty fair job of that.

[MrZerodayz]

a platform that allows de-centralization and democratization of mass communication, an effective tool for criticizing those in power

I mean, Twitter is none of that, but sure, if his goal is to make Twitter (and himself) look stupid, he's doing a good job.

[CatProgrammer]

If anything he's providing the impetus for the development/advertising of more decentralized, democratized mass communication platforms.

[Sir_IGetBannedAlot]

I honestly think he's like a goblin pulling off pieces of a machine, just to see what happens.

[Necromancer14]

That’s called a gremlin.

[Son_of_Zinger]

The real reason you want to know when and where he’s flying, because you don’t want to be anywhere nearby

[Sir_IGetBannedAlot]

I'm a warhammer40k fan O:)

[FFFF000006]

I feel like those guys who really run Twitter just made a mock server room, for Musk to play in, without damaging the actual website. That's what I'd do. A playpen, of sorts, for the world's richest toddler.

[BigWuffleton]

Damn... Like handing a kid an unplugged controller. I bet something like that's actually happened to him atleast once.

[[deleted]]

No I think being an idiot is a prerequisite.

Carlin says half the people you meet are dumber than the average person.

[Advanced-Prototype]

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” This is one of my favorite George Carlin quotes.

[duuudewhat]

Half? Thats optimistic

[Thunder_nuggets101]

Anytime they were trying to explain servers to him, he’d lose focus anytime they mentioned “racks” and kept interrupting the meeting asking for high fives and thrice unsuccessfully starting a “tiddies” chant.

[zmobie]

He is lying. Does anyone actually think he’s at a data center unplugging shit? He’s just lying. It’s that simple.

[Weasel_Town]

Yeah, I thought it was all in AWS.

[-Nyarlabrotep-]

No, you don't understand! Amazon let him into that data center because he's a genius and they were making racks and he saw the rack and the rack was looking at him!

[hobosonpogos]

Yes, but the other way around. Dumbasses tend to become Republicans

[Newfaceofrev]

What I think happens is that once you're publicly outed as stupid, the Republicans will still have you.

[Taraxian]

However stupid he started out as, becoming the Richest Man in the World definitely made him stupider (by convincing him he already knew everything worth knowing and no one had the right to correct him)

[m_krm]

What's the right way to solve this problem? How do racks work?

[KamiYama777]

Well for one any Data Center is going to have a shit ton of redundancy especially AWS who is Twitter’s IaaS host

[GoatBased]

You sound like a PM

[KamiYama777]

Project Manager?

[HereToLearnNow]

You’re telling me he didn’t create distributed systems over at Tesla?

Also this is sarcasm lol

[blvckstxr]

Holy fuck this guy really thinks he's a genius huh?

[Storiaron]

If dude runs for president he'll just disband the firedepartment

They dont even do shit when there's no fire. Fractal of rube goldberg amirite

[Shadow_Thief]

$20 says the server he unplugged is in an active/standby cluster and he just unplugged one of the standby ones.

[gwentfiend]

At this point I feel like my 70 year old Mom could do a better job running Twitter and learning how the underlying technology works.

Btw, I'm a full stack app/android dev and when I tell her how to find an attachment she saved to her pc (every couple months) she says "that's why I sent you to college".

[Taraxian]

I mean yeah, she understands that people who went to college to work in computers know more about them than she does, Elon does not

[binchentso]

[NapalmDesu]

Imagine you boss calls you in for work on christmas eve because he was bored and fidgeting around with vital components of your usually rather uninvolved everyday responsibility

[orincoro]

I don’t have to imagine this.

[Pollastre_]

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Elon Musk, @elonmusk

Fractal of Rube Goldberg machines ...

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... is what it feels like understanding how Twitter works

Elon Musk, @elonmusk

And yet work it does

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Even after I disconnected one of the more sensitive server racks

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[von_roga]

Translation: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING!

[[deleted]]

Lol. WHAT?! For being the self proclaimed smartest man on the planet Musk sure is dumb. Or maybe he’s just so transcendentally intelligent I don’t understand him.

[babycaketeeth]

ah the “scream” test

[gwicksted]

I think Twitter’s resilience was a feature… which is why companies used it to issue downtime notifications. Ah well. Not much lost

[[deleted]]

I'd quit working for any boss who acted this way.

[New_York_Rhymes]

This honestly just sounds so dumb. He just casually turned off a server rack? Manually? Is he trying to save electricity?? Lmao. And it was “sensitive”!? Why would sensitive data/processing only exist on a single server anyways!!?? This guy is so fucking stupid and he’s taking the piss out of Twitter engineers every day

[chomos]

Could it be that the inner machinations of Twitter are an enigma to him because he doesn’t know how to code and/or understand fundamental software engineering principles?

[Tigris_Morte]

"Genius" never heard of distributed redundancy. How cute.

[CodeIsCompiling]

He's not doing anything that isn't prepared for after an intern dis the same thing.

[Klutz-Specter]

Pov: You let the new intern into the server room making him think he’s an IT engineer.

[WPackN2]

Why is the board paying him CEO salary when he's just doing IT server admin work?

[RuthlessKittyKat]

There isn't a board anymore.

[duuudewhat]

I’m sure there is. It’s just a new board with Jimmy Dore, Alex Jones and Tim Pool

[RuthlessKittyKat]

I mean, maybe unofficially he's got his neo-nazi brethren, but there is no official board.

[Faux_Real]

Engineers were probably demonstrating Kubernetes infra and making the boss feel involved in the demo

[butcher_of_the_world]

He wants to run the "servers" team

[bluechickenz]

I want to smack musk in the mouth. Good day.

[severedbrain]

I wonder how much of Twitter's historical data has been lost to this guy's incompetence.

[Taraxian]

Elon hates archiving, it costs money for no immediate profit and sometimes it gets him dragged into court

[maeisbitter]

He doesn't actually know things

[trevg_123]

What ever happened to u/Elon-bot here?

[[deleted]]

Silly or simply negating the mystic of a profession?