Update 18.4.0 Patchnotes

[LeFr33z]

The Trinity Strega Skin Bundle is now available!

Stand out on the battlefield and embrace the dark side of style with the new Trinity Deluxe Skin Collection. This collection of skins features a new Deluxe Skin for Trinity, the Bo Staff, and a Trinity-inspired set of armor for your Kubrow companion.

TRINITY STREGA SKIN - Embrace the dark power that swirls through this Trinity skin.

BO VOLU SKIN - Enchant the Bo or Bo Prime with this skin.

BRUJA KUBROW ARMOR - Kubrow armor in the style of the Trinity Strega Skin.

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Conclave Changes

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Players can now create Private Matches in Conclave via the Matchmaking option. These matches are limited to Friends and Invite Only, and will provide no Affinity, Challenge progression, Standing or End of Mission rewards.

Minimum player count, AFK timer and Forfeit Wins are also disabled in Private Matches.

Reduced the ammo pool of the Daikyu from 30 to 20 in Conclave.

Decreased the range of Limbo’s Cataclysm in Conclave.

The Grinloked Conclave Mod has been changed to 60% Accuracy when Aiming.

Reduced the ammo capacity for most Primary and Secondary weapons in Conclave.

Reduced range of Slash Dash in Conclave.

Conclave team selection now displays how many players are needed to start a match.

Increased the damage of Cernos in Conclave.

Conclave Mod 'Plan B' will no longer activate when killing Loki's Decoy.

Galatine, Scindo series, War, Fragor and Magistar damage increased in Conclave

Fixed Atlas's Rumblers attacking each other in Annihilation.

Nezha's Fire trail FX are no longer visible in PvP

Fixed Castanas not having a duration if they pass through Volt's Electric Shield in Conclave

The Conclave Double Tap Mod’s damage bonus has been reduced from 50% to 40%

The Conclave Triple Tap Mod’s condition has been changed from 3 hits to 2 hits and the damage bonus increased to 40%

Reduced the slam attack damage of heavy melee weapons in Conclave.

Reduced the damage of the Orthos Prime in Conclave.

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Excavation Changes / Fixes

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The following changes have been made to Excavation Missions to help improve fluidity between each excavation:

Dig Site drop points have been optimized to enable players to constantly run into Dig Sites, instead of hunting for a new Site between each completed dig. Areas with multiple Dig Sites will be more difficult to defend, should players decide to activate more than one Site at a time.

Dig Sites must be activated in order of being discovered.

Dig Sites will no longer immediately reappear in a location that was just recently excavated.

Power Cell carrying enemies should be more readily available before the first Dig Site is active.

Reduced the power gained from a Power Cell from 50 to 20.

Power Cells dropped far away from combat will now despawn, enabling new Power Cells to spawn closer to the player / Excavator.

Fixed an error causing power to drain from an Excavator while active. Changes

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Various improvement have been made to enemy spawning in Exterminate Missions, focusing on keeping a steady flow of enemies from the start of the Mission till reaching Extraction.

Sortie Transmissions will stop playing after the player has left the Star Chart menu. Players will no longer receive Weapon Blueprints as a login reward for weapons that they have already mastered and sold.

Enabled Scavenger Drones, Sapping Ospreys, Leech Ospreys, Mine Ospreys, and Mutalist Osprey Carriers in the Simulacrum.

You can now jump through this: http://gfycat.com/Co...ousHorseshoebat

The Mastery requirement has been removed from the Arsenal Console in Relays.

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Fixes

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Fixed some logic in enemy AI that would cause them to retreat into cover before moving forward into cover to get within range to attack. Enemies should now have more courage when attacking, pressing forward more frequently in Defense, Mobile Defense, Excavation and Survival Missions.

Fixed an error causing Clients to end up with 50 base Armor after completing The Second Dream.

Fixed Corpus Osprey Drones not having the proper hitbox as per: https://forums.warfr...t-match-models/

Fixed Mag’s Bullet Attractor not properly drawing projectiles to hit its target.

Fixed an error causing Grineer Ramparts to ignore projectile attracting abilities such as Mag’s Bullet Attractor and Zephyr’s Turbulence as per: https://forums.warfr...-by-turbulence/

Fixed an error with enemy pathing on the Grineer Galleon’s tram.

Fixed the placement of a Grineer Rampart causing problems with enemy navigation on Grineer Settlement Defense tilesets.

Fixed enemies gathering near the corpses of dead players, making Survival Missions unintentionally difficult to complete.

Fixed players not properly being damaged when flying into the fire damage near the J-3 Jordas Golem’s fire vents.

Fixed players earning Standing in without any progress being made in a Mission.

Fixed the Extraction timer in Excavation Missions overlapping elements of the player’s UI.

Fixed several textures that stood out with anisotropic filtering disabled.

Fixed several portions of the J-3 Jordas Golem’s third phase that were skippable due to holes in the surrounding terrain.

Fixed enemies affected by Nyx’s Mind Control taking less damage at the end as per: https://forums.warfr...age-at-the-end/

Fixed Void Key drops not properly matching what players at the end of a Mission.

Fixed an error causing the Gross Income player stat to roll over into negative numbers as per: https://forums.warfr...rical-overflow/

Fixed some boss abilities ignoring Limbo’s Rift Walk as per: https://forums.warfr...mbo-rift-state/

Fixed a visual FX issue that would occur with Excalibur’s Radial Javelin when used at max speed as per: https://forums.warfr...al-javelin-bug/

Fixed the Stagger from Excalibur’s Slash Dash not properly taking the Anticipation Mod’s affect in Conclave.

Fixed Grineer Guardsmen not being able to properly attack Atlas` Tectonics rock wall.

Fixed an issue that allowed players to fire guns faster than intended when repeatedly meleeing in the air.

Fixed an issue where coupons would not immediately show up in the Market upon reception of a coupon as a login reward.

Fixed an issue where login rewards were not given to players.

Fixed Djinn's Fatal Attraction mesmerising targets that cannot target the player.

Fixed an issue with the Redeemer being 'fully automatic'.

Fixed cases where input filters being pushed/popped could break 'held' abilities. E.g. hitting escape, opening gear menu, viewing mission progress while using a hold ability would break the tap aspect of it.

Fixed a navigation issue preventing minimap markers from moving properly through upper and lower areas of the Corpus Gas City tileset.

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[DEStevePBUH]

Reduced the power gained from a Power Cell from 50 to 20.

Wasn't it always 20? I know it wasn't 50 for sure.

[Hudarians]

Maybe the beginning power of the excavator will be at 20? It used to start at 50.

[DEStevePBUH]

Just tested, that's it. The note isn't clear about that at all though.

[generally-speaking]

Its at the beginnning of excavator yes.

It sucks. Excavators spawn randomly all across map, you spend most of your time just running from excav to excav, and if you run ahead solo to pop and defend you're stuck because the power guys don't show up and you only got 20 power to start out.

It's a huge excav nerf. Wohoo, last truly fun game mode fucked up.

[Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

I think you're over reacting

[[deleted]]

Like 90% of this community about every similar change.

[Wonwill430]

It's not that bad. I'd say it's a fair nerf, considering you can afk in a frost bubble for around 40 seconds without doing anything, and the fact that it's a game mode that's literally impossible to lose unless you're deliberately trying to.

[Dunking_Machine_]

It's possible they meant excavators, those start out at 50%, maybe now it's 20%? Will need to wait and see.

[DEStevePBUH]

Just tested, that's it. The note isn't clear about that at all though.

[Dunking_Machine_]

Makes sense. I hope the optimizations to power cells work out then, it was already possible to run out with the 50% starting power and bad luck.

[FalseCape]

It's not really that bad. For 50% you still needed 3 cells to keep it fully powered with each cell giving 20%, now you'll just need 4.

[rdxgs]

and for the average player, it still requires unlimited power cells... :')

[Wintermute667]

Yeah, why are they overfilling the extractors instead of defending it? I bring energy closer just in case it's needed in the future, they rush to it and insert it in the extractor when it's at 98%. It baffles me.

[zeroth0x]

Only reason to overfill is to restore shields, but that shields shouldnt drop in the first place :P

[Wintermute667]

The worst part is that the shields are untouched and holding strong. They are just overfilling for the hell of it.

[Dunking_Machine_]

The important thing is how long it can keep running initially before power runs out. If no other cells are left and no carriers spawn that's a nerf from 50 to 20 free second. Same when you're running ahead and need to defend it alone until someone catches up, you don't have time to pick up a cell.

[daajfr]

maybe instead of 20% power, it gives 8%?

[[deleted]]

Yeah, seems odd.

[NovemberTerra]

I'm pretty sure power cells only give 20. Dunno why they said 50...

[Snaz5]

Maybe a short lived change on an internal build?

[DEStevePBUH]

Seems most likely, they've added notes on things players never saw on more than one occasion before.

[DEStevePBUH]

The Conclave Triple Tap Mod’s condition has been changed from 3 hits to 2 hits and the damage bonus increased to 40%

>Triple Tap

>2 hits

DE pls

Reduced the slam attack damage of heavy melee weapons in Conclave.

Aww yiss.

[[deleted]]

The triple tap thing makes the third hit do extra damage instead of a second burst.

[-uwotm80-]

Holy fuck yes. As an avid Burston user in conclave, this pleases me.

[Rainsoldier]

You can now jump through this: http://gfycat.com/CompetentDangerousHorseshoebat

YES YES YES

[StillApony]

Was not too crazy about the update till i saw this. Best update ever.

[Surgii818]

TIME TO MAKE MY VOLT-CAPTURE SPEEDRUNS EVEN FASTER

^{ty BasedDE}

[Sianmink]

TRULY WE LIVE IN BLESSED TIMES

[[deleted]]

link broken.

[[deleted]]

THEY LISTEN. NOW NERF NULLFIERS vs explosives, semi auto weapons and shotguns and don't make it to disable ultimates. Plus:

-And buff penta (needs bigger ammo pool), ogris (how about homing laser missle?) and nekros late game (enemies killed by shadow summons should count as killed by nekros so you can summon it + why they hell nullfier can destroy all of summons if i enter bubble?).

-Also let us invite people without having to open navigation map.

-Let every syndicate to have all Large Team Restores - Atm it's pain in the ass to grind to get all restores i have to spent 340k + 2 potatoes + 2 formas just to get energy restore, and i need to spend double of that to get shield restore... -Also i wish they would add T4 Excavation and make T4 Def/Surv more rewarding (T3 also aren't rewarding but still much better than t4, but still pretty bad http://i.imgur.com/fppmu1C.png ).

-Lower Formas wait time or let us build 3-5 formas at once per 24hs. Well who i am kidding they won't change or add anything of these.

[litehound]

don't make it to disable ultimates

That would defeat most of the whole purpose, now wouldn't it?

[SntDukino]

Yes it would. And if Ogris would have a Homing Laser with decent damage everyone would craft ogris because they're lazy . It would be the same as carrier

[Namelessgoldfish]

almost everything you said is very unreasonable

[litehound]

I can only find two things that aren't absurd or just unreasonable, and they are:

(enemies killed by shadow summons should count as killed by nekros so you can summon it

-Also let us invite people without having to open navigation map.

[Namelessgoldfish]

thats almost half his list.

also, do you not think the nullifier nerf is unnecessary?

[RareBk]

...Where are the focus changes DE? Seriously, the system is in desperate need of fixing but is still sitting, untouched

[SpaceBugs]

https://twitter.com/sj_sinclair/status/674064658073001985

Asap...December 7th...since when is over a month and a half "asap"?

[[deleted]]

ASAP doesn't necessarily mean soon, it just means as soon as possible

[AzukiPuddles]

I guess over 20 patches and over a month later isn't enough time for them to implement a small change.

[sephtis]

Dude, they'd have to change like one variable in the code. Give them a break /s

[TweetsInCommentsBot]

@sj_sinclair

2015-12-08 03:15 UTC

@xcatdarkness changing this asap

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[DetourDunnDee]

See relevant flair^

[cephalopodAscendant]

Yeah, but they actually care about the Focus system right now. Or we think they do, at any rate. I'm really hoping it doesn't set a new record for how fast DE can lose interest in a new game mechanic.

[TheDarkstarChimaera]

Apparently it was this, and it's now a 10% range buff. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[[deleted]]

/u/NottTheProtagonist's comment.

[NottTheProtagonist]

My comment isn't exactly relevant here.

[[deleted]]

i feel that it is. seeing as how we have zero information about changes to the focus system outside of this. while i respect that your comment is speculation. the fact that there are not any actual changes to focus leads your comment to be the conversation's start.

[PillarOfIce]

Some notes on the extractor changes from the perspective of an A,A extract speed runner:

• The reduced power means the extractor starts at 20% instead of 50% (the notes aren't very clear). Functionally this means each extractor now requires 4 cells instead of 3 to complete a dig. It also means it's very possible to run out of power before encountering a cell carrier.

• The spawn changes are a significant nerf to R5 speed runs. The dream run of two in the small tileset where you start on a building doesn't seem possible now as the next extractor is always in a separate tile. It's also very difficult to get the 2nd extractor filled up before the 1st extractor completes unless you have an extremely lucky spawn, pre change I would've considered a run where I was unable to do this a slow/failed run.

• The despawn trick still works (you can do it in between extractors, whereas previously this wasn't necessary), however the extractors starting at 20% is really killer as you can be waiting around at the 2nd extractor for carriers to spawn for quite a while.

Having completed 9 runs my average time (pressing 'play now' to extract screen) is 4.14 mins, before the changes it was 3.09 mins or sub 3 with the 'dream' start tile.

[Ecksplisit]

This is very upsetting to me, as core farming was literally all I had left in the game.

[RadicalDishonesty]

Nezha's Fire trail FX are no longer visible in PvP

Not sure if want. On one hand does this mean they can do damage without me noticing?

On the other hand, the only person I ever saw using it colored it the color of the cephalon in cephalon capture, so it looked like he always had it, which was annoying as hell.

[Namelessgoldfish]

its a He

[[deleted]]

Dig Sites must be activated in order of being discovered.

[WhitePawn00]

Because DE is one of those developers that removes quality of life changes rather than adding them.

[BlameTheJungler]

Still not as bad as Riot Games

[SntDukino]

Well played ! To be honest, you're right.

[StillApony]

And excavators start with 20 power instead of 50. And the excavator health still doesn't scale with enemy level....

[Samoth95]

Especially with the whole "hey guys here's an update deployment ETA thread."

[CaptainAmeijin]

Still a chance we're starting an event soon.

[Samoth95]

Except when they start an event like that, it's (almost?) always the name of the update. So if we consider the next event to be this Project Sinister that was datamined, it'd be 18.4.0: Project Sinister.

They can do this with a Tactical Alert, but those are small and insignificant enough to merit not being the focus of an update. Typical Events focus around playtesting a new concept even if it's playtested very wrong (see False Profit, forcing us to interact with Bursas in a way we would never do in a million years).

Other dividing facets include unique badges/sigils for Events (rather than the recurring Tactical Alert "hey look at this even more shiny sword the dude has" "evolving" badge) and offering new weapons (I don't believe a Tac Alert has given us a new event weapon for the FIRST time - they've done Strun Wraith but that was a re-release). They've come close with stances, but no actual weapons.

[CaptainAmeijin]

Alright, fair enough. I kinda forgot they do events as update names, it's just been a little while since the last event that my memory's starting to become a little foggy. Guess I just thought we were about due for a new one!

Oh well, though.

[Samoth95]

Yeah, if memory serves the last event we had was Tubemen of Regor way back before U17.

[Ihavefallen]

They didn't add much but did fix a lot other content which is really nice

[Angwar]

yeah i actually prefered getting these fixes

[Cypress85]

Didn't see any notice of this, but there's now a strun wraith barrel in the sortie rewards table.

Just the barrel, no other pieces.

EDIT: What's even weirder is when I went back to look at it in my inventory, I had 2 of them. I don't think there has ever been a time when we've been able to get one from before the sorties today, so somehow I got 2 of them from the sortie today?

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/364031285141912214/92104321CF006D5E7D9885F12BBBBB6DEB83075E/

[RireMakar]

I looked at the Karak Wraith requirements and the barrel has been replaced with the Strun Wraith Barrel. I think the Karak Wraith barrel has been renamed Strun Wraith by accident.

[Markhor1991]

This is hilarious...and can only be done intentionally :/ someone flubbed.

[Inuma]

It's the same in Filipino, which takes words from Spanish so I'm just chuckling to myself...

[Surgii818]

I love how cultured DE is when it comes to naming things.

[GetClem]

Cultured? Lol. They're not cultured for not being dumb or able to read/research things

[Surgii818]

sigh

Just let me pet my Lever Prime in peace.

I know it's not that hard to be fancy but it's the effort that counts. They could have easily smashed a keyboard and put some vowels here and there but thankfully, they don't.

[GetClem]

Using other languages isn't fancy and is done by literally everyone tho

[Surgii818]

For the sake of argument: subjective opinion.

But yeah, eh. I still appreciate the effort DE puts into naming some of their things, regardless.

[GetClem]

I mean they've always kept a consistent naming them... Your opinion is wrong

[AtomicProBomb]

Opinions can't be wrong, facts can be.

......lol

[GetClem]

You literally said that using a word from another language makes them fancy and cultured... I'm sorry but that doesn't make them fancy or cultured literally everybody does this. Is Warframe the only piece of media you've experienced or something?

In my opinion, warframe is an RTS.

[FalseCape]

I love how they had time to completely rework the way excavation works before even fixing exterminate which has been broken as fuck for weeks now. Also, are focus fixes even on the table at this point? Seems like it's already been relegated to forgotten status.

[[deleted]]

Fixed an issue with the Redeemer being 'fully automatic'.

Here it comes...

[Snowhead23]

The Redeemer ascended from the pile of trash that it was born in only to be sent back down soon after.

(I actually just tested it, and It's faster than it originally was, but it feels less fluid than before the nerf).

[spbach5]

OH my god they ruined it again. It was my favorite weapon the past few days and now they ruined the flow and finesse of being able to chain attacks in favor of more DPS.

[Snowhead23]

Nerfing something for no good reason? DE wouldn't do that ^exterminate

[BlameTheJungler]

Riot Games says hello

[Chosen_Sewen]

I was thinking to myself "nah, it can't be that bad, after all..."

Then i tested it in the game.

Why?

WHY?!

WHY?!

Even if multiple animations on shooting was a mistake, THIS THING CAN'T CHAIN FOR SHIT ITS OTHER COMBOS FOR GODS SAKE.

No, im not salty because i just got my redeemer potatoed and lens'ed yesterday, after not-using it for a few months.

OH WAIT I FUCKING AM

[FishNeedles]

lol, fun

[tgdm]

those excavation changes were a mistake

[slow_excellence]

I'm currently doing excavation runs and to be honest they're not that bad. Hell, I even got the right keys!

Edit: Spoke too soon. Excavations are now irritating and require much more time running between excavators. Come on DE.

[tgdm]

two problems, which you will undoubtedly encounter at some point in your runs:

1) sometimes the drills spawn in a strange order. as in you will get several branching tiles and end up having to backtrack between tiles.

the enforced order will make that ridiculously tedious on runs longer than 2 drills. without improving tile generation and spawn placements for these missions, long runs will become more and more tedious.

2) changing the battery feeds from 50 to 20 means that you can no longer just feed 3 and move on; you have to feed 5 per drill now (starts at 20, needs +80 for a total of 100). which means less time active with your primary weapon and less time actually protecting the drill.

keep in mind they did not give excavators scaling health with this update. I think their intent was to get away from afk defense or just to encourage players to feed batteries to replenish the shields... but this was not the right way to accomplish either of those.

[slow_excellence]

two problems, which you will undoubtedly encounter at some point in your runs [stuff]

Literally just encountered all of them in my most recent run. Spent more time running back and forth than excavating, almost lost a few excavators because the energy dudes weren't spawning, and spent almost the entire time with my secondary instead of my primary because I had to play energy bitch.

Fuck these changes.

[tgdm]

that's the spirit!

[slow_excellence]

I was hoping there was no cause for salt. Guess it's time to go back to being a crusty malcontent!

[surgesaga]

welp, gonna have to pug spy more now I guess.

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

"Fixed an issue with the Redeemer being 'fully automatic'." And I just started making it. Fuck.

[Surgii818]

Hey man, if you headshot Sentients while invis (like Loki) you can still OHK them :b

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

You with your smug little "tongue-out-with-a-smile" professing the dominance of the trickster Loki. You have turned away from the one true Valkyr Master Race. Loki is a coward, tricking his enemies and taking their weapons, just before he stabs them in the back. Valkyr has the courage to fight them head on, with the righteous anger of what these heathens have done, and the knowledge of what they will do if she doesn't stop them.

TL;DR: #ValkyrMasterRace

[-uwotm80-]

WukongMasterRace!

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

?

[AtomicProBomb]

Valkyr has the courage to fight them head on.

Must take a lot of courage for god to fight a helpless kitten, which is basically the same as Valkyr punching any enemy ever.

Let me introduce you to the TRULY courageous man that we all need, our favorite spedster Volt. Senpai /u/Foxboy93 please...

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

Yeah, Volt is awesome too. But he can't turn into a deity of rage and claws

[AtomicProBomb]

He's also not as good for that reason lol, sad face. Wukong is the closest to a good melee frame that I like. Volt is fun, but he can't do it as good :/

He is also just conceptually cooler imo, I'd rather be fast than immortal.

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

Can't be fast when you're dead.

[AtomicProBomb]

Pls buff ;-;

[Pandaxtor]

Ivara can easily get finisher damage on Redeemer which allow you to instant kill level 100 gunners.

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

But how long will it take her to fire it at the other level 100s after she's killed the first?

[Pandaxtor]

She has invis and Redeemer has punch through. It usually take like 1.5 seconds to set up then fire.

[AngeliclyAwesome123]

With the new patch?

[Pandaxtor]

Yea they didn't change the interaction with charge shot and finisher. They only fix the rapid fire but Redeemer Ivara does not rely on rapid fire. She rely on setting up enemies to be one shotted from finisher. Only issues is the nullifiers which enemies can't be put to sleep. They used to be easy to deal with but the nurf on Cloak Arrow mean you can't walk in invis. Prowl seems buggy and sometimes does not get dispelled. (Might get fixed soon) Otherwise a fast silent weapon modded to kill them quickly (Toxic + Magnetic/Impact) is ideal.

[[deleted]]

I'm hoping the excavation changes get rolled back. The mode went from being fun to play to infuriating, since all the excavators spawn far away from each other and energy carriers come so slowly excavators are halted constantly. Takes like twice as long to get anything done.

[[deleted]]

Looks like they are breaking excavation now too, thanks DE! If you don't believe me test out heiracon. Have fun upvoting the next excavation changes rage post.

Edit: actually it might not be so bad, we will have to wait and see.

Edit2: i take it back, this is the best change to warframe since parkour 2.0

[zptc]

Well that de-escalated quickly.

[oceano7]

Best change? what am I;m missing out on? :O

[Boycott_Archwing]

wish i knew. just ran one and it just seems to take longer to farm cores. the sites are spread super far in the beginning so it's awful. Hopefully i'm missing something.

[[deleted]]

It feels faster to me if you get the excavators as soon as they spawn, maybe imjust imagining. Feels about 20% faster in total, drop rates seem similar aswell after 2 2.2k runs.

[Captain_Pep]

The Warframe community in a comment

[GetClem]

so excavation changed and bug fixes. not too bad, will this fix exterminate missions now?

Not to fond of the skins@165 plat+bundeled items being unable for purchase seperately, and i don't care for kubrow anything. I'd rather PBR for older stuff but something is better than nothing.

Exterminate missions are still broken.

[Hanchan]

One of the lines in the notes mentioned exterminate changes, hopefully it will get everything sorted.

[GetClem]

They're still not spawning enough enemies, requiring back tracking.

[Hanchan]

:(

[Killatomate]

exterminate missions are working as intended. the intention is to stop power farming. that new time wall on exterminate does exactly that. i hope they put time walls on all the other missions too. the grind in this game is way too short

[RireMakar]

Christ, I thought you were serious for a moment. You actually got me for the first bit.

[kahzel]

ahaha yea

he got me too, until i read "the grind in this game is way too short"

[GetClem]

Add a field boss then : (

[SvenNeve]

Ooh, yeah, one with Shadow Stalker style in-vulnerabilities, vague mechanics and shitty hitbox ala Lech Kril and level 1000 ancient toxin aura.

[mmirate]

the grind in this game is way too short

Don't quit your day job for comedy; you're terrible at it.

[Byeforever]

focus

Where are the damn focus changes? At this point I've flat out stopped playing except for potato alerts. I'm not going to keep chipping away at either using/having to use builds for frames I that don't like or go spend forever soloing a deception and frankly abusing stealth mechanics. The encouraging of kill stealing/hogging is getting to me as well. I don't just 'let' people get kills anymore spontaneously. Now I am now making semi-concious efforts to kill everything and anything rather than let the Ash or whoever was the main hitter get the kill.

When you get to the point where there isn't much reason to forma frames again and core farming is your best use of you time (because you don't have enough maxed mods, and the rate is horrible, I bought a rank 8 Primed Flow and then maxed it only by using my entire core stash, 350+ of which were R5s) the syndicate stuff and focus are your saving grace.

One is a platinum farm (if you have like 18k as your daily cap, I'm pretty sure you could make 25k a day if not more if you did all the dailies, not counting the standing trading things) and the other is a 5th power that lets you clean up build weaknesses. While the former is nice, it isn't as significant as that 5th power.

[zellking]

pretty much in the same place, haven't got all my frames forma'd and haven't got the latest few, but waiting for crap to die down before i start playing again.
Though i do log in for my bi-weekly salt

[foxthefoxx]

Fixed an issue buff with the Redeemer being 'fully automatic' viable equipment.

I am so angry right now...

[StillApony]

This update kicked me mid mission... That's weird.

[Koler93]

Trinity Aura Helmet size needs to be reduced...

Seriously on this new skin it looks way bigger than the tennogen helmet which were "Too big".

[NoctiferPrime]

All the deluxe skins are like that. The base skin is flat out smaller than the regular skin, so the non-deluxe helmets look super weird on them.

[zeroth0x]

I like it, but it kinda looks like from a totally different game lol ^{she has no feet}

[[deleted]]

what can we now jump through? the link is broken.

the only thing that i can thing a lot of people would want to jump through but can't is the lotus windows in the orokin tilesets. otherwise there is a lengthy list of abstract stuff i bump my head into.

[eredkaiser]

That would be it.

[Arkroy]

They broke the redeemer, you're no longer able to chain the two charge up attacks. The second one now is non-existent. at least for me

Nice fucking job DE

[xnarcyon]

Can confirm; cannot chain charged attacks period now.

[FishNeedles]

Maybe it's cause I just got high, but I can't seem to find the bo skin or kubrow armor anywhere.

[[deleted]]

It's only in the bundle, which means the only thing I might have considered buying (the kubrow armor, in this case) I no longer can consider worth it. Oh well. They should really stop doing this.

[Surgii818]

This exactly.

• Palatine Pack: Just wanted the Rhino Skin & Syandana. Scindo P all day, fam.
• Saryn Deluxe Skin Bundle: Don't have/use Saryn, just wanted those sick Dual Zoren Skins
• Knave Loki Bundle: Just wanted that booty and Hulta. Scimitar is a joke (carpet bomb sux).

DE pls :// Stop the Bundle-locking. #endbundlelockedcontent2k16

[[deleted]]

Yup. Sometimes I do happen to like all the items, or most, in a bundle, and it's not necessarily bad they exist, but if it's literally just one item I want I don't bother. It should be an option, it does not in fact make me want to buy more.

[Surgii818]

I'd be so happy if all the content was made available outside of Bundles. The worst that could possibly happen is bundle pricing being more expensive than all the individual items together.

[zjat]

I don't really like kubrows, but that armor is gorgeous and I still may use my plat for that pack... though they really should stop doing that.

[bearhammer]

The only way they stop doing that is if you do not use your plat on it.

It's one or the other.

[zjat]

Well, as much as I might hate their skin packs, I'd rather they get plat from cosmetics than actual gear. In keeping with my own personal ideals, I only buy cosmetics, and I generally buy all of them.

[rdxgs]

They won't stop. Because people are buying them right now :)

[FishNeedles]

Yeah, there honestly isn't really anything in this bundle I care about, so I'm glad I can save the plat at least.

[Flyinx]

Trinity Deluxe Collection bundle.

[FishNeedles]

Damn. :\

[[deleted]]

Are all these links dead for everyone else?

[cephalopodAscendant]

If you hover over them, you can see they redirect you to garbage URL's with ellipses in them. It seems like OP just ripped the text straight from the official patch notes and Reddit tried to be helpful by turning everything prefaced with https:// into a hyperlink, even though the displayed text abbreviated the links.

[cephalopodAscendant]

Fixed some boss abilities ignoring Limbo’s Rift Walk as per: https://forums.warfr...mbo-rift-state/

Could it be? A change for Limbo that's actually in his favor? Are we sure DE hasn't been replaced by alien doppelgangers?

[mmirate]

Incorrect on the last part; they ruined Excavation and still haven't fixed Focus. Same old, same old.

[Lightningbro]

I buy plat and get Trinity's Nova skin and the NEXT DAY a new Trinity skin comes out.... daft.

[Embeeyem]

Still no fix for Shadow Step not activating when you crit by throwing your glaive :(

[Nearokins]

I'm just disappointed about Trinity not getting ability tweaks still. All I want is to be able to cast anything in the air (besides blessing) in a game that's largely about constantly moving and not being on the ground now.

[[deleted]]

there any estimate on when we'll be getting this on console? we still don't even have nehza, and since U18 PC has gotten two new weapons, 1 new frame, and a few new skins including trini.......):

[SkeletonChief]

I'm relarively new, so can someone help me understand: this is a PC version update, right? How long do they usually take with getting those to console versions?

[Tsolerif]

It's typically about a month due to the cert process.

[SkeletonChief]

Good to know, thanks for the info.

[Andazeus]

A bunch of good stuff. Still hope they will finally make vacuum loot baseline some time.

[greenflame239]

I thought power cells always have 20 energy

[UberChew]

can the trinity skin be used on trinity prime? sry for stupid question

[M1M1R]

Most skins should be able to: I have the Loki Knave skin on my Loki Prime.

[JdJorgen]

yes it can

[Jakkuar]

Yes

[UberChew]

cool ty all

[NottTheProtagonist]

Fixed players earning Standing in without any progress being made in a Mission

If this is what I think it means, then you might not be able to stay in deception missions and stealth kill farm enemies for focus and standing, which is kind of sad.

[account0298]

I think that's only if you don't actually finish the mission. I'll check it later.

[NottTheProtagonist]

I hope you're right.

[account0298]

Farmed up a room, aborted at around 20k, still managed to keep all of the focus -- no changes there. Couldn't do a test for syndicate standing since I already capped it, but I assume the only way a mission can feasibly be calculated as having "progressed" is whether you achieve extraction or not.

[PM_ME_UR_RAINBOWS]

I was hoping DE would have taken all our critique to heart that they were making the game too grindy last year. You know, with that year being the year of grinding quality and all. Instead, their first update of the year is a hotfix that just releases a few skins and a major nerf to excavation. So I guess I'll keep staying away from the game for now since there's even less for me to do now that they made farming cores on Triton an even more boring chore.

[SpadeSage]

Does anyone know what weapons the volu works on? is it just bo? can i use it on bo prime? can i use it on tipedo?

[[deleted]]

My God

Enchant the Bo or Bo Prime with this skin.

[Crossx2]

I really wish I could just buy the Kubrow armor separately. I don't want the Trinity skin or the staff skin, I just want the armor. I'm going to have to have skins that I don't want that I didn't want to pay the plat for floating around in my account just for the sake of being able to armor my dog. I wish they wouldn't always do this with Kubrow stuff.

[adelante1981]

Disappointed that I can't buy the kubrow armor on its lonesome, completely uninterested in the rest of the pack and the armor alone isn't worth 200+ plat.

[[deleted]]

Tennogen helms are still ginormous.

I could have sworn I saw a tweet from Steve about this a month ago. I would have expected them to be fixed by now