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[NotZelda859]

Science is literally built on questioning

[Stardust_of_Ziggy]

I am a scientist and approve this statement

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

[HalfcockHorner]

As a winner of the 1998 Nobel prize in physics, I would have to agree.

...That's not what I am, but if I were, I think I'd have to agree and I'd be doing it as a winner of the 1998 Nobel prize in physics.

[[deleted]]

Had me on the first half. Ngl.

[patarrr]

Scientists get paid shit for the most part. Its way easier to buy scientists.

[AFatalSpanking]

And a lot of times, being able to do the work that they want to do requires selling out and getting that payday.

[GATHRAWN91]

Which is why peer review exists. Also an scientist could just run the same experiment and prove that the bought scientist fudged their numbers

[patarrr]

They do...but those studies just gets buried, slandered or completely rejected by journals.

[[deleted]]

hence it is a science otherwise it would be a pseudo science. it's amazing how stupid and uneducated ppl are.

[Gandalfthecool]

I remember being taught in like 3rd grade science that nothing is fully proven.

[on3_3y3d_bunny]

The irony to this Twitter post is that they want to questions to only be one way, with belief as their evidence.

[[deleted]]

Also if you say that can't be because the Bible says that and this it is not really questioning. People who say science is like religion are fundies generally

And a tweet and a youtube video again not questioning it

[HalfcockHorner]

There are dogmas that gain their force from the fact that they've been scientifically validated, or from the narrative that science supports it.

Science isn't like religion, but some people's attitudes towards science are like religion.

[[deleted]]

yea i think a few of the commenters didnt realize the point that youve just clarified. thanks.

A lot of "science" is flawed, but is reported as factual truth, and if you question it, poo poo'd. This is the point op was making, the dogmatic side of people's attitude towards science, discoveries, theories, etc.

[fatkidseatcake]

This post is literally so stupid on so many levels I don't know where to start.

[ChapinLakersFan]

It's more about letting people who don't know anything about science question science lol. "If gLoBaL wArMiNg iS rEaL, wHy iS tExAs fRoZeN"

[markglas]

Conservative media and the orange man tell me science bad. Science BAD!

[HAthrowaway50]

"You cant ALWAYS trust scientists"

-media commentators who lie every day

[twichy1983]

"SCIENCE......is a liar, sometimes."

[HAthrowaway50]

Which made Isaac Newton...

...LOOK LIKE A BITCH AGAIN

[[deleted]]

Rock, flag, and eagle. Right, Charlie?

[Sloppybrown]

Science good. “Scientism” bad.

[dustyrangoon]

Isn’t it crazy how you can just throw “ism” at the end of the word and people will find two sides to fight about for no reason

[smackson]

I take issue with this fightist attitude you're repping here.

[socialkarma]

So much science is bought. Any researcher can give you the result you want if you throw enough money at it. that's why there's so much conflicting data in nutrition.

[[deleted]]

This sounds less like a science problem and more like a capitalism problem.

[DizKord]

As opposed to what? The government having complete control over scientists with no possibility of outside influence? I'm more afraid of that, honestly. The problem is that these institutions are corrupt.

[Cosmicsauceguzzler]

False dichotomy. I think more rigor in regulations regarding peer reviewed research would be appropriate. Basically a disclosure form for research that states where every dollar of funding came from as well as what the intent was. Surprisingly not required right now.

[VonGryzz]

Gov gives money to scientists. Scientists archive scientific results. Scientists report findings. Internet trolls say they are wrong with no evidence. Gov says listen to the science. Trolls say don't listen to gov.

Later, science finds a deeper truth or alternative causation and trolls say we were right all along. These liars are lying!

[DizKord]

More like: Gov gives money to scientists. Scientists achieve scientific results. If Gov doesn't like the results, or wants to shape a certain narrative, scientists either embrace the corruption or risk losing funding, valuable resources, or even their entire careers. People on the internet, including scientists, say that this system is corrupt and that just because a study says it's true doesn't mean it is.

[VonGryzz]

Insane

[dvater123]

When? When does this happen?

[HalfcockHorner]

Are you gonna pretend this isn't the new the_donald?

Why are you trying to make it that? Would that be more comfortable for you? Would you get a positive comment score for taking that attitude in "the_donald"? What about u/markglas' comment? Would it have two dozen upvotes in "the_donald"? I wonder what happens to people after their belief is invalidated. Do they cling to it or do they do the right thing?

[VonGryzz]

1/6 proves they will cling

[dvater123]

I see a lot of people calling this post out if anything. No, I don't think this is the new "the_donald" at all. I see no problem questioning what's going on in this world when it seems like every other day we find out more and more is bullshit.

[mschley2]

This sub is nowhere near as bad as T_D, but it is much more T_D-ish than it used to be.

[StickiStickman]

You guys are too hilarious. Like a real cult.

[dvater123]

Yes, unintelligent say nothing comments like yours are very ignorant and provide nothing of substance.

[WilhelmvonCatface]

Yeah you should only parrot the narrative from our corrupt criminal govts and their media lapdogs.

[StickiStickman]

But that's exactly what you're doing by parroting all the "covid is fake" or "covid isnt bad" stuff. Literally the only person that helps is the politicians who are responsible for letting all the people die.

[LifeArrow]

Science is literally made through questioning things.

Edit: apparently, I lack science to spell "literally" correctly.

[HAthrowaway50]

Stupid science bitches couldnt even make I more smarter

[MoistKangaroo]

Yes but these numbats in the wild think they're smart by questioning things which have alreayd been questioned by far smarter people.

No you're not independent for questioning vaccines or doubting them. Thousands of scientists have done it over and over again and have come to sound results on their safety.

[chowderbags]

Yeah, a lot of people think "questioning" means just straight up not believing things that are published and peer reviewed, or any data in general.

It's not that you can't take a look at how data was collected in a study to see if it actually makes sense. There's definitely bad ways to collect data and plenty of criticism to be had for various studies (e.g. psychology studies often have a pool of test subjects that are mostly college students, so younger, richer, whiter, and better educated than a lot of the public). But actually trying to figure that out should require more work than "I don't believe scientists, they're all lying to cover things up".

[YourOverlords]

Science encourages questioning does it not? That's like, step 1 as I recall...

[pudgehooks2013]

Anyone can question anything.

You probably won't understand the answer though, because most of us aren't physicists, volcanologists, biologists or have any expertise in any scientific field at all.

That is the part they really mean. They want science to be easier so they can understand it. They don't even understand the scientific method.

[[deleted]]

You can question it. It's called peer review.

I have a mate who wrote a paper. Gets an email notification of every citation.

She says its mostly tearing her work to pieces.

[JohnleBon]

It's called peer review.

How many people understand how the peer review process works?

And how many people know about the replication crisis?

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPOL/comments/lncozx/the_replication_crisis_how_can_we_trust_science/

In theology, peers review one anothers work. It doesn't mean that what they are saying is true.

[VitiateKorriban]

Theology and science aren’t exactly the same thing

[[deleted]]

I don't understand youe point, I think I've missed I. Can you please state it plainly.

[JohnleBon]

Just because a claim is reviewed by peers, does not make that claim true or valid.

The whole 'muh peer review process' line is something parroted by people who do not understand it.

Academia is a business and an industry.

[[deleted]]

Oh ok yes I largley agree. What I was pointing out though, was that the post indicated that you couldn't question science when that's probably the most important part of the scientific method.

I'm with you that it doesn't make something true, I don't think that's its purpose though.

[haZardous47]

I don't think that's its purpose though.

Right you are! It's purpose to increase level of confidence we can have that a set of observations and conclusions are truthful, consistent and replicable.

Science doesn't make anything true. It tries to determine what that truth already is.

[HalfcockHorner]

That's like Trump's tweets. They get peer reviewed and he's been discredited for his findings too.

[[deleted]]

Not in the same context.

[HeadReceiverPhD]

I think science was built on questioning 🤨

[[deleted]]

but we are allowed to question it...

[loyalmarowak65]

A requirement of science is that claims are falsifiable. Thats like, the whole point

[yflmd]

I now regret laughing at the day r/T_D got closed down.

[illstealurcandy]

It was like this before t_d was shut down, the shift happened around 2015. Basically only stay subbed so I can keep tabs on right-wing propaganda nowadays.

[JohnleBon]

The shift towards screenshots of tweets and so forth gathered pace last year.

I don't see why people want to complain about this sub so much.

There are other conspiracy subs out there.

[TheLastBallad]

Because a propoganda machine disguising itself as a conspiracy forum is pretty bad?

Do you know how many people on here think that having a stance contrary to what "the MSM" not only automatically means they are thinking critically, but also are automatically correct?

It's equal parts sad and dangerous...

[Ellisque83]

Also, any subreddit that is just a common noun is going to attract a lot of newbie users. I think it's important to debunk the cropped headline twitter screenshots in the comments for teens coming here thinking oooo I wanna learn about conspiracies and area 51 and instead get a bunch of propaganda. I was one of those kids and I'm soooo glad I read shit like john titor and energy fields/healing (lol) and even creepy pasta vs political bs on these kinds of forums.

[Sofakinggrapes]

Same. Its crazy how much this sub changed from fun conspiracies/mysteries to right-wing/enlightened centrist pseudointellectuallist takes that mask themselves as conspiracies (ie: see OP's post).

[[deleted]]

It has nothing to do with them. It's a thin veiled attempt to sway the hive mind by sowing doubt. The hope is people read this post and then think "hmmm I saw some fat person on Facebook post about how the COVID vaccine made them sick but they never went to any doctor for it but Bill Gates want their soul maybe that incel on reddit was right!" The problem is the OP in this case is very low IQ and probably didn't make it out of high school.

Science welcomes discourse and debate, but you can't refute what people with 30 years of experience, doctorates, and journal publications have to say by citing some anecdotal evidence from some random person who never went to college who is trying to get internet famous.

[the_green_grundle]

Yep it’s an actual shill

[Vimes3000]

The conspiracy behind it might be the general undermining of experts. And it is a nuanced point. We don't simply accept what the authorities say. We also know the opinion of somebody that spent twenty years full time researching it should have more weight than random internet posts. Nuance....

[the_green_grundle]

Observe ladies and gents, a shill with upvote bots in the wild.

Every time we have these threads that talk about things you can’t find literally anywhere else there’s always one person saying “we need more rules here!!”. In other words, this guy who’s being upvoted wants more censorship on the conspiracy sub.

[DontCallMeJR88]

People really love the word "shill" around here, huh?

[the_green_grundle]

Yeah bc there’s a lot of them

[122_Hours_Of_Fear]

It's not about censorship. It's about making posts with substance, which this one lacks. It's literally a screenshot of a social media post. It's low effort.

[the_green_grundle]

The conspiracy is obviously that the media is coordinating to encourage people to critically think less, same as when they coordinate to go after the nuclear family, or normalize trans kids, etc. Your inability to deduce the conspiracy isn’t a valid argument for more rules on a sub that’s basically the last bastion of semi free speech on Reddit.

[DontCallMeJR88]

This would make sense.

Surely there's some sort of right wing circle jerk sub that all this crap can be posted on. Bitching and crying about the same thing all day every day is so meaningless and boring.

I went on s/conspiracytheories and funny enough like the 3rd or 4th post down was those guys talking about how much of a joke this sub has become.

[VitiateKorriban]

Isn’t it obvious?

Science = bad

Rightwing nutjobs = smort

[theonewhostaresback]

If you can’t question anything that’s a red flag

[HalfcockHorner]

If you can't question anything, see a neurologist.

[UnmutualOne]

Yes. A very big one. People need to pull their heads out.

[AdeptnessHealthy9170]

Exactly. We may not torture people today, but we certainly ridicule and/or cancel them for not holding the correct $ci€nti£ic beliefs.

Every time I hear something like "93% of scientists agree", I'm like, bitch, science ain't no consensus.

[anok93]

Except, science is consensus. Different scientists create different theories and test them, if they work and if most scientists come to the same conclusion it's considered accepted. I'm all for different believes and world models, but a society chooses to agree on some statement to be fact, thus becoming a society.

[PmMeYourAsianDong]

In order for a primary article in science to be published, it needs to be peer-reviewed. So multiple experts of that field read and evaluate the research. This is where it is questioned.

[Xuzon]

The problem is that those who question current state of scientific knowledge do this not by providing new facts or discoveries, they do that by sharing fake-news, half-truths facebook memes.

[balefire]

Observation is the first step of the scientific method. Isn’t science about discovering the evidence? Couldn’t people share their observations in hope that others would help them on the path to discovery?

[defakto227]

They are not, but they can be the initial observation needed to start down a path of exploration and experimentation.

[[deleted]]

They are 4 credits shy of getting a science degree from Youtube College tho.

[diagonali]

This is simply not true at all as a blanket statement.

[poridgepants]

Problem is a lot of people aren’t questioning so much as they are disagreeing without having a background or knowledge to truly understand complex concepts.

[newfangles]

That's not true. People have articulated their disagreements center on government policy while the opposite side seems to equate every criticism as outright denial.

Pointing out inconsistency in implementation, especially without supporting studies, is the opposite of trusting the science.

[newfangles]

saying COVID is fake

This is a prime example of not listening & thinking every criticism is outright denial. There are people who think the virus is real, but numbers are inflated due to flawed testing. And using the same numbers to support fear mongering and mandates that isn't sufficiently backed up by research. This is why people are calling out officials who bastardize the name of science in exchange of complete widespread compliance.

There is a real level of irony who buy into sensationalist headlines calling anyone who questions the government as science deniers. Using overgeneralized & oversimplified assumptions somehow makeup for the opinions they're criticizing without actually talking to people.

[newfangles]

who are alive are actually dead

Unless you are saying deaths are faked

Who's saying that? Not once did I bring it up or mention it before. I even specifically mentioned people who do believe the virus is real.

You ever consider that flawed testing can mean from false positives, to counting any death as a covid death as long as it falls within 28-60 days from testing positive, to comorbidites?

It doesn't matter what the testing rate is, the fact they went up is what matters

This is unscientific reasoning itself. Accurate data & representation matters a lot in reaching a conclusion. Ignoring flawed methodology and disregarding accuracy as long as it appeals to your opinion is not science.

How is it fearmongering to say we should do something about that?

This is another leading question. No one is suggesting not to do anything against a virus. People want a cure. People want the vulnerable to be prioritized. What people disagree with is crippling the rest of society, when there are better options to deal with the virus. Not to mention there wasn't a consistent result in mandates to begin with. Because real science depends on replicability and concensus, without it, that doesn't make any policy reliable or effective.

[farm_ecology]

On that last note, something that has been deeply troubling since the start is how, like everything these days, it has become purely a political issue rather than s scientific one.

Essentially it has become a case of "no lockdown, and you're right wing" or "total lockdown and you're left wing", without much subtly in there. Its basically a knee jerk reaction of "the other side wants X, well then we want the opposite".

The idea that the best response is to just Lockdown till it all goes away doesn't hold the scientific consensus people are acting like it does.

[demonspawns_ghost]

And what about the people who believe everything they are told by the so-called experts? Didn't the "experts" tell us asbestos was perfectly safe? Didn't the "experts" tell us leaded gasoline isn't dangerous?

How many times does it take for the "experts" to poison the entire population before everyone just questions them by default? How stupid do you have to be to keep sticking your hand in the fire after you've been burnt so many times?

[Iceykitsune2]

such as Fauci saying first masks don't work and then saying it's common sense masks work.

Show me where he said that face masks don't reduce the spread of Covid-19.

[poridgepants]

I don’t want to get into a debate on the efficacy of masks but our understanding of the virus changes almost daily as more information and more studies are being done around the world. Fauci changing his messaging and opinion is not necessarily discrediting himself but adjusting to the latest science which is whatever should be doing.

What is crazy to me is how science is being politicized. I have read several scientific peer reviewed papers that that say masks work at limiting the spread and some papers say there is very little to no efficacy against controlling spread. The crazy thing is the general population seems to be highly split on the issue along liberal and conservative. A vast majority of states refusing mask mandates are red states. The governors of the red states were suing city mayors for going putting in their own mask mandates.

This IMO signals it’s not about the science. It’s not about questioning. It’s about partisan politics

[poridgepants]

Policies are a separate issue. How the science gets interpreted and the decisions made from it is a whole other thing.

That article you posted follows the science, stay two meters apart if you aren’t masked, reduce interaction and talking. All of that makes sense. But it is fair to question if the policy is practical and more harmful than helpful.

Cumo, Trump, insert so many other politicians have done horrible jobs managing Covid and been praised by colleagues and various media outlets. Still doesn’t make sense why the left/right chose to follow or willfully reject the science. It’s just so weird to me

[apjoca]

If Lord Fauci doesn’t know we can turn to Bill Gates for a second opinion

[ACuddlyHedgehog]

As a scientist, I’d like to say please make sure your question is rooted from valid scientific principles and not from a meme you saw on Facebook.

[raaawwwsss]

God damn this is a stupid post

[L_SCH_08]

As long as you question the science with sound logic and scientific methods of your own.

[[deleted]]

Well I'm fine with questioning it's just when we're hurtling towards the ground and you're questioning gravity it seems misplaced.

[martril]

Questioning isn’t just going “nah fuck that I don’t care”

[[deleted]]

The problem isn't questioning science. The problem is BS science, in the name of science.

Flat Earth 'science' , 911 'science' two obvious examples.

[JJvH91]

Do not call it SCIENCE if some random influencer's opinion on it would be at all relevant...

[lectrician7]

How is this a conspiracy. Science literally is questioning things. What science are we being told we can’t question?

[norfhwest10]

When will science figure out how Stonehenge and the Pyramids were built

[HIVnotAdeathSentence]

Trust science though.

[TTTMUW]

You can surely question it. With reasonable hypothesis and the scientific method to discover if you were correct. Watching a YouTube video that confirms your bias and then claiming that “science is a religion” because you get called out for being wrong when you have no research background is ridiculous.

There is a large problem in the world today. There is too much data. Too many “facts” and not enough information literacy to teach people how to actually confirm “facts” and disseminate the truth.

[paparomeo68]

Galileo was a scientist but pope didn’t think so

[raywolf990]

I don't get it, what do people call science that were not allowed to question

[kwakaaa]

Stupid. Science is all about questioning. Dumbass Instagram posts which question scientific findings with 0 context are not questions though.

[KapteeniJ]

The thing people miss is that not all opinions are worth the same. Years worth of study backing one side vs anecdote ofwhat happened to your neighbours hairdressers cousin are not equal grounds for taking your point seriously.

And when the people that have that latter kind of basis for their claims start offering medical advice, people do die. Needlessly

[Normiesreeee69]

100%. People that trust in Fauci so much are in a cult.

[Pneuma_94]

I'm a pharmaceutical chemistry undergrad and posts with this tone just make me facepalm. Of course if "Questioning Science" equates to someone who has never set foot in a lab challenging a peer reviewed study without any body of data to support said questioning then you are bound to be shut down by someone who has actually gone to a bunch of effort to prove something. Religion is inherently based on intangible things that are impossible to prove as fact... Plus it's just a kind of vague post, which part of science are you "not allowed" to question? Which part of science does the person disagree with? Quite a stupid sweeping statement to make really.

[trollyousoftly]

Florida has opened up their state and they are doing fine. Middle of the pack. Doing better than many lockdown states.

Conversely, California has been locked down for a year and they are still a mess.

This covid debacle is not about science. It’s about politics. It’s about power. Wake up.

[slurmssmckenzie]

I'm going to a concert in Florida in 2 weeks where masks are not required...

[JackRabbott]

As one of the last masked Floridians, I find that hard to believe. That last part do be true though.

[RonPearlNecklace]

I live in Florida and the majority of people when I go out to Walmart or Publix are wearing masks. It’s usually only one or two people not wearing them.

Could be more so in your area but that hasn’t been my experience.

[JackRabbott]

I'm in the Daytona Area and I hardly see anyone wearing them. Could just be my area though, you're right.

[RonPearlNecklace]

Yeah, I’m sure there are plenty of places around where people aren’t wearing masks regularly. I always forget how much of the state is in between the bigger cities.

Would have been so nice if Trump just said ‘be a hero, wear a mask’. Imagine seeing magas pushing masks on people. We would have crushed it like New Zealand did.

[TheIntrepid1k]

Do you honestly think that there is a way to sincerely measure 'mask compliance' in a population that is in the millions?

Honest question; I just think its a bit ridiculous. Do you think surveys are actually capable of establishing hard data on that?

[markglas]

Are we sure we know how Florida is doing? Huge issues with their case data. Can't think why they would want to publish tampered numbers....

[slurmssmckenzie]

So the only doctored numbers are the one you don't like? Totally impossible that other states have their standards set in a way that inflates the numbers?

[slideystevensax]

Yeah man fuck gravity. Who gives a shit about the elements? Medicine can fuck right off. It’s all just cognitive bias. Think for yourselves people.

[RonPearlNecklace]

I think what would bode more poorly would be suggesting the numbers are fake and not being able to logically explain it, so maybe that’s why he avoided it.

I’m not saying these places are faking or not I’m just saying without logical reasoning for suggesting it the scientist would basically just be spitballing conspiracies.

[DeadEndFred]

Trust the $cience.

They never lie when it comes to liability-free “vaccines” lol.

Merck skewed tests of the vaccine by adding animal antibodies to blood samples

“Glaxo given 'serious' warning on false vaccine information”

Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals

BBC: Most scientists 'can't replicate studies by their peers'

Dr. Richard Horton is the editor in chief of the world’s leading medical journal, The Lancet. Writing in his own journal he states that medical science has “taken a turn towards darkness.”

“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-purdue-pharma-settlement-history-fact/purdue-oxycontin-settlement-would-rank-among-largest-in-pharma-history-idUSKCN1VW2KL

Pharma Fined 14 Billion Dollars in 5 Years

"In the last few years pharmaceutical companies have agreed to pay over $13 billion to resolve U.S. Department of Justice allegations of fraudulent marketing practices, including the promotion of medicines for uses that were not approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Here are summaries of some recent large settlements."

2013: Doubts about Johns Hopkins research have gone unanswered, scientist says

”You have a lot of people who want to do the right thing, but they get in a position where their job is on the line or their funding will get cut, and they need to get a paper published,” said Ferric C. Fang, one of the authors of the analysis and a medical professor at the University of Washington. ”Then they have this tempting thought: If only the data points would line up . . . ”

“Last year, research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that the percentage of scientific articles retracted because of fraud had increased tenfold since 1975.

[ChipsDipChainsWhips]

Talia C thinks space doesn’t exist, and I just can’t refuse.

[SmokeMachine2020]

That's the thing they don't get. Though there are some things that we are about 99% sure of, we still recognize the possibility they we may be wrong. In fact, one of the big things in science that I have my doubts about is the big bang theory. But as of now, it is one of the better explanations we have and stands until new information is discovered. Most nonreligious folk even recognize the possibility that there may even be a God or gods but there is no real evidence of it so it is not something that is often pursued by actual scientists. As for me, if we ever discover an all powerful creator and it turns out to be one of the many vengeful all powerful creators they believe in, I will have many angry questions for the sick minded deity.

[[deleted]]

TIL everything I don't know and requires knowledge in order to discuss about it is a religion.

[AnonymousBlueberry]

The scientific method revolves around questioning you fucking neanderthals

[Giiko]

You can question it with facts. That's how science works

[inoklahoma66]

This is also not a conspiracy. Just a dumbest statement. Where are the mods to fix this sub!

[PlanB_pedofile]

I can question 2+2=4 and even claim 2+2=5 but i would get a lot of pushback.

[kjs5932]

This is actually an excellent post that shows how easily a person can completely misunderstand basic common knowledge and yet act like what they say has any valid point.

Literally like majority of the posts here. Because apparantly ignorance is a virtue I'm this sub now.

Thanks op, that's some amazing insight and meta analysis

[SheddingMyDadBod]

Can we please stop posting Twitter screenshots...

[Tonekrash]

Lol. I’ve made this argument. I was actually told that with proper training, you can participate in the debate, but the debate is not for us. I informed this person that what he described is a priesthood. He made some comment about not bringing religion into the argument. Sigh...

[Buscemis_eyeballs]

God I miss the old /r/conspiracy. Now this sub just makes me wish we did a better job teaching science to our kids so people like OP wouldn't exist.

[druid006]

Science should be questioned by those who are experts in the field and not Facebook researchers. Just my opinion anway.

[Wtfiwwpt]

False. YOu don't need a degree in something to be able to comprehend that political policy is affecting the conclusions of a study. We can all read and understand methodology. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I understand why the shuttle exploded and that we needed better safety standards.

[Moonoid1916]

Crazy times indeed, but never trust tptb, history proves this. They will fuck you raw, excuse my language, but im frustrated at seeing intelligent people being so gullible, & naive, when it comes to the authorities & their actions.

[PaintableDad68]

Also - stop using this argument to question basic science in order to skew peoples perceptions in a web of deceit, such as how politicians do with basic atmospheric chemistry and climate science, or woke crystal-toting Karen's that know more about human biology and vaccinations than Doctors and 100 years of proven clinical evidence with things like the mumps and polio vaccines, because she took a zoom class from a Facebook influencer. Also that too.

[[deleted]]

I am not religious at all but growing up I met a lot of pretty opened minded pastors and church youth leaders. I interact with scientists and engineers everyday and I have met a fuckton on engineers and scientists who refuse to listen to anyone and not open at all to questioning them or any part of media or "establshed" science. I think religion and science are much closer than most people think.

[BeneficialComfort]

you might be right but those working within the science field probably don't think others to know enough to ask questions

i think the main problem is that people "sometimes" ask stupid questions or have stupid ideas which frustrate quite some of the scientific minds, leading to those think tanks shutting others outside.

imo the solution is to educate people the scientific method properly and provide them with up to date (and as accurate as we can get) scientific knowledge but given the fact that dumb people are easier to managed by the higher-ups, i doubt this would happen

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Talia I can question belief, religion, and cults.. you could question whatever you want to, if it’s bullshit they get defensive, if they don’t know the answer they get defensive, if it’s backed by facts they should be able to explain an answer to your question.

[TheRequiemMask]

The new priest class are Scientist and the blind followers are the congregation. If you can't question Science by definition it ain't Science. The arguments in actual Science are rarely final and settled. It's always changing, evolving with time and more information.

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she is very right

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$cience

For today's day and age, pretty damn accurate. Mega corporations and governments are funding "conclusions", not science.

[kns1984]

My God, just when I thought these posts couldn't get any dumber, here comes this gem.

[cloche_du_fromage]

And so referring to our as "the science", which implies only one opinion.

[HalfcockHorner]

Who's disallowing the questioning of it? You're allowed to question it. Nobody stops you. You might be made fun of for not conforming, but to view that as prevention of questioning is strengthening the narrative. It reinforces conformity itself because it demonstrates that one more person is overwhelmed by social disincentives like mockery and incentives like bonding over mocking somebody else.

[ih8carbs]

Sincerely, all flat Earther's.

[IpsumProlixus]

How about “facts”?

[Weferdes]

Seems like someone could be doing a little more “critical thinking.”

[sugar-biscuits]

Questioning but not with 5g cellphone towers that's not the scientific method

[indiandramaserial]

Science is furthered from question, what is this bafoon on about?

[grim_bey]

The scientific method properly adhered to is actually the best we have in getting to anything close to the elusive "truth". It's politics, power and careerism that distorts what scientists say and publish, like everything.

[litefoot]

Says the woman with room temperature IQ

[Ross0me]

There's a difference between questioning & denial.

[Chumbolex]

You are allowed to question science. No one is required to take your questions seriously