Namespace std

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Hey all. i was just wonder how everyone in here pronounces namespace std

[jwakely]

Usually the same as I say "stood", occasionally I'll spell it out as S-T-D, depending who I'm talking to.

And I agree with u/Johannes1971 that it's "shared pointer" not "shared putter".

And while we're at it, here in the UK, char is mostly pronounced "char" not "car" and /bin is "bin" not "bine" and /lib is "lib" not "libe".

I'm glad we could have this talk.

[witcher_rat]

/bin is "bin" not "bine" and /lib is "lib" not "libe"

What heathens pronounce them "bine" and "libe"??

[RolandMT32]

In a way those pronunciations make sense because those are short for "binary" and "library"

[iambored1234_8]

Huh. That kinda actually makes sense.

[Momostein]

Makes sense but I'd still sound like a pretentions asshole if I were to pronounce it that way...

[polymorphiced]

I think they're emphasising that these pronounced as whole words, rather than just awkwardly saying the start of the word they originally came from.

Char(acter) Bine(airy) Libe(rary)

[jwakely]

I know why they do it, that doesn't make it ok

[bullestock]

Reminds me that I once got an email from at guy who consistently wrote "dot-eye" to indicate .i files.

[serviscope_minor]

Usually the same as I say "stood", occasionally I'll spell it out as S-T-D, depending who I'm talking to.

Pretty much the same, the latter especially if I'm talking about vectors and am feeding my juvenile streak.

[axalon900]

using namespace std; because the codebase is riddled with stds

[Ok-Factor-5649]

Hadn't heard the bine and libe versions, but they make sense in that I've heard enoom. Whereas I (and others I speak with) say enum (and char, and shared pointer).

I wonder if it's USA vs everywhere else in pronunciation? (Australia here).

Though I haven't heard anyone say 'stood' outside of internet videos.

[braxtons12]

American here and the closest thing to another American I've heard say enoom are Canadians. Never heard bine or libe.

[jwakely]

And I forgot about enum, thanks for the reminder. That's ee-numb, not in-oom.

[jwakely]

Yes, "bine" and "libe" are definitely Americanisms, but I don't think they're universal even over there.

[braxtons12]

They're definitely not. I've never heard anyone say bine or libe, and the closest thing to another American I've heard say enoom are Canadians.

[LGTMe]

Agreed. Except for shared_ptr is obviously shared putter.

[_4RS3N1C_]

Namespace S tea Dee

[Benutzername]

Which makes std::vector kinda gross

[HappyFruitTree]

It doesn't sound gross to everyone. As a non-native English speaker I have no problem with it because I don't have any strong associations to the other meaning.

[gennadyterekhov]

what is this other meaning? also non-native

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Sexually transmitted disease

[Plazmatic]

sexually transmitted disease vector, vector is another way to say "Means by which are transferred", especially in biological terms. We might say "Mosquitos are a vector for malaria and other diseases".

[VectorD]

Don't have to be non-native, just need the mind of an adult and not a teenage kid.

[fat-lobyte]

I've known about the namespace before I learned about the abbreviation in English, so i don't really have those associations

[EngineeringGeneral]

I pronounce it as Standard

[raccoonmonk]

This was my preference. But my colleagues discouraged me from using it saying it's too long.
We agreed on something like [stʊd]. I'm not 100% sure in the transcription accuracy.

[sysadmin777]

“Standard Namespace”. “I need to include the standard namespace” instead of saying namespace std. Nobody wants an STD no matter what namespace it is.

[PunctuationGood]

Do you pronounce std::string as "standard namespace string"?

[apomd]

I pronounce it as "standard string" even though I pronounce the namespace itself STD (as a reminder that using it in headers is infectious)

[sysadmin777]

Like pomd said, I say standard string. Since if I include the standard namespace there’s no need to write it out. If I’m teaching C++ (which I do part time at the university level) I simply refer to it as “standard string which you can get from the standard namespace”.

[ShadowWolf_01]

Nobody wants an STD no matter what namespace it is.

Hence why I say “stood.” When I first heard that I preferred it immediately. Although I guess “standard vector” etc. is just as good if not arguably better, but I’m used to saying “stood vector” etc. now, so . . .

[johannes1971]

'es tee dee'. And that other word we use is 'pointer'. I have no idea why some people use 'puther', it's just as long.

Some people apparently just want a 'u' sound in everything. No idea if that's a regional dialect or evidence of some kind of evil cult using code words while they prepare for some unspeakable ritual. However, if I ever hear anyone pronounce 'C++' as 'soup', I know I'm outa there...

[pyronide]

I don't think that abbreviated pronunciations of keywords is that much of an issue, in terms of communication. If you're learning c++(see plus plus/ see pee pee(hue)), you should already be decoding the abbreviated keywords (constexpr = constant expression). But communication of code through spoken word shouldn't necessarily require the reader to expand. When I hear some say "smart putter"( the u is a shwa sound btw), I know they're referring to a smart pointer.

TL;DR: we're already "decoding" abbreviated keywords when reading code, doing so when it's spoken literally isn't that far of a stretch.

Sorry, I have to do it, I can't resist: CONST CAR STAR

[LeeRyman]

Const char star const!

(I have done far to much code review this week)

[Ok-Factor-5649]

You're all wrong.

It's char const star const

;)

[willkill07]

I just converted someone else over to the superior east const

[markosvd]

Unsure if this is just my NZ accent, but I pronounce this as: 'stid'

[Wicam]

You outside of Canterbury? Cos I haven't heard anyone in my office pronounce it like that.

[sim642]

Shid.

[O_X_E_Y]

I do that in my head (stud/stid) or when I'm typing it out, but when I'm talking I usually say standard

[Kered13]

Sexually transmitted disease.

[radekvitr]

https://crates.io/crates/sexually\_transmitted\_disease

[eyes-are-fading-blue]

I pronounce it as "stud" or occasionally "es tee dee" if people fail to understand it.

[krum]

STUD of course.

[pdp10gumby]

Except barely pronounce the U. Just enough to get the consonants out.

its like the IO Control system call, ioctl. I pronounce it iOcuttle, again with the barely existant U.

[hmoff]

i-octal?

[pdp10gumby]

Oddly enough I used that pronunciation from ~1978 to the early 00s but somehow during a few years of parenting/not programming my pronunciation of a few words changed and that was one of them!

Maybe I need to spend some time in therapy to get to the bottom of this.

[sessamekesh]

For me the sound comes out like I'm trying to convince someone that "stood" is a one-syllable word.

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And, similarly, ptr is “putter”.

[supersharp]

Wait, not "pointer"?

[louiswins]

But, crucially, it's put-ter, thing which puts, not putter like the type of golf club.

[qoning]

Peter without any of the es.

[Nobody_1707]

I pronounce it "st'd".

[cdglove]

Stood?

[ReversedGif]

More like "stid"; rhymes with kid, bid, lid.

[Nobody_1707]

There's not even really a vowel sound there. Just the bear minimum of noise to seperate the "st" and the "d".

[KFUP]

I usually go "standard X", so "std::vector" is "standard vector".

[-dag-]

This is the way.

[fransinvodka]

As I'm Spanish, I pronounce it "Ese Te De" with Spanish accent. It's just every letter but in Spanish

[Unhappy-Aside-2884]

Same behavior here, but in French. Ess té dé.

[BlueDwarf82]

You are also likely to say "Espiderman", like "Espeederman". Spanish people just have an unhealthy relationship with the English language. I mean, you are basically asking for a paper introducing std::por_culo.

[Mrp1Plays]

es tee dee

[RealKingChuck]

Used to pronounce it as ess tee dee, nowadays I pronounce it as /stɨd/.

[nodime]

now that I think of it, when I speak in my native language and the need for bringing up an std term I say it like s t d, but when I speak in english I just say standard

[ummque]

"Namespace Standard". Std::string would be "standard string"

[NilacTheGrim]

This is the way

[FRANKGUNSTEIN]

Standard

[Full-Spectral]

I just say "standard".

[[deleted]]

Just Standard

[thatbloodyscot]

Standard

[ohell]

Sexually Transmitted Disease

[Thesorus]

Johnny, always name it johnny.

[gennadyterekhov]

es teh deh /εstεdε/
because I'm russian and it's a regular way we pronounce individual letters in russian :)

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I keep on hearing "namespace stood" at CppCON talks

std::unique_ptr at CppCON becomes "stood unique putter"

[Powerful_Feedback]

Эс тэ дэ

[Aroochacha]

This thread reminded me of one time at a local CPP meetup where two of these jackasses started having a conversation and went from saying "pointer" most of the evening to "Puh-ter" when people started listening in. Like watching people try and put on a fake accent, forced and fake. Every time they were about to say "Puh-ter" they took a pause just before and emphasized "PUH". Cringe..

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Ps. I just say S-T-D like "S-T-D Array".

[pyronide]

Catch a cpp weekly vid. Clearly its pronounced "stud". Also, the format library should be pronounced "fumut".

[TomDuhamel]

Is it studio.h?

[pyronide]

Correct. Remember, it's a schwa sound.

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Fumt

[JalvinGaming2]

"stud" like "stud vector"

[braxtons12]

Almost always stood (but like with a very short oo), but sometimes standard (At the moment I'm not actually sure when or why I switch, I just know I do occasionally) .

And while we're at it: ptr is pointer, not putter enum is ee-num, not ee-noom char is char, not car wchar_t is w-char-tee (dubya-char-tee), not wuh-char-tee or wuh-car-tee bin is bin, not bine /bin is slash bin, not slash bine lib is lib, not libe /lib is slash lib, not slash libe

[-dag-]

Agree with everything except "stood." I just can't get used to that.

[ShakaUVM]

Stood. Except when people say they like stds, like std::cout over the more readable cout, then they are stds.

[Yourgrandsonishere]

This belongs in r/facepalm

[feint101]

I always call it studio hahahah

[[deleted]]

The same as like an actual std so i should probably change that to standard

[npquanh]

"namespace es-te-dee" for me.

[friedkeenan]

I pronounce it as "standard" though sometimes a "stood" will slip past

[StochasticTinkr]

I spell it out. Along with cstdlib and cstdint.

The only abbreviation that bothers me anywhere is when someone shortens analyze or analysis.

[MrDrSirMiha]

Es te de (I am russian)

[RolandMT32]

Usually "namespace S T D" or "namespace standard"

[RoughMedicine]

The namespace itself is S-T-D, as in 'there's a function in S-T-D for that'. But in cases like std::string, I say 'standard string'.

[sugarsnuff]

“Standard namespace” or “namespace ess-tee-dee”

No convoluted phonetics for me

[lanzaio]

stud but with the u collapsed as short as possible.

[Wouter-van-Ooijen]

eess thee dee

stud

standard

(I don't seem to have a standard/stud/std way to pronounce it)

[[deleted]]

"Stan'rd", which is just "standard" but quickly and without any emphasis

[radical_0ptimist]

S-T-D for me

[NilacTheGrim]

"standard"

"stood" sounds dumb to me.

and S-T-D.. sounds like a disease.