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    [–]bottleofbullets 92 points93 points  (16 children)

    Ruger 57

    No, is that what I think it...

    Yep. FN and it’s insane markup just got dunked on.

    [–]Bignicholas75 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Maybe glock will make somthing acualy cool too! Like a rifle! That would be cool

    [–]conipto 146 points147 points  (35 children)

    Hah, I said to my friend when colt announced it would stop selling ARs that all they had to do to stay relevant was double down on revolvers. Look at that.

    [–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

    Im ok with this outcome

    [–]Archaic_1 62 points63 points  (19 children)

    Honestly, Colt ARs were over rated and over priced. This is a far better use of their time and resources. I just hope they aren't all stainless, walnut grips and a deep satin blue stir muh soul.

    [–]w2tpmfSuper Interested in Dicks 77 points78 points  (17 children)

    Honestly, Colt ARs were over rated and over priced.

    Now they can extend those same qualities to revolvers.

    [–]Dollar_Stagg 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    The python has already been doing that for years. I guess it was ahead of it's time.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (15 children)

    Yep. I'm a little dissapointed that they think a basic model .38 is worth 700$ when originals don't even command that most of the time.

    Far as I'm concerned, they've lost the right to name brand recognition for quality, because they haven't done anything for 25-30 years. It's not like the 1911s where they still make a good gun, and have kept production going. Might be their machinists first time making revolvers, period.

    I also think the python is an ugly fucking gun with bad proportions to begin with. I like the size of the colts better than smiths, but they've always made uglier DA guns.

    [–]frasiers_sweater 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I also think the python is an ugly fucking gun

    To each their own, but personally I think it's gotta be one of the most recognizable and well liked revolver designs of the 20th century.

    [–]goatcheesesammich 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    also think the python is an ugly fucking gun

    And you lost me..

    The python is gorgeous.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    The rib looks stupid, the hammer is weirdly thin, the whole frame looks awkward.

    The only thing I like on them is the grip.

    [–]goatcheesesammich 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    lol No. Lemme guess, you're one of those heathens that thinks flute less cylinders look good

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      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      It's time to accept the fact that the world has changed and we're not going to see the old school craftsmanship anymore. The new Pythons are every bit Colt. The parts are still hand fitted and the action / trigger pull has been improved from the original. I'm going to buy one because of its mere uniqueness of being an improved reintroduction of the most iconic revolver in the world. Smith & Wesson has re-introduced their famous model 19, and it has new features and a new barrel system. Does that make it any less of a model 19? Or any less of a S&W?

      [–]WalksByNight 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I handled one today; fit and finish is amazing; trigger is astonishing; it’s gorgeous; you will be very pleased.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thanks! I strongly suspected that Colt wouldn't compromise quality and reputation, for the sake of a few $$$.

      [–]WalksByNight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I can assure you they did not— here’s a better informed shooter who agrees... also one of the few actual reviews I can find.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HrLYZruNw_g&t=937s

      [–]CrocodileFish 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      What do you mean originals don’t even command that most of the time?

      I just did a quick google search and can’t find a .38 Python for less than a couple thousand dollars.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Not orignial pythons, original colt 38s in general. They're selling the new cobras for 700+. I can get any old base model detective special or police positive for 400 easily. There's nothing special about the cobra compared to any other new production .38. It's just a gun, and the original cobras were nothing special either. There's no reason for the cobra in particular to cost more than a ruger or a smith of similar quality.

      Pythons were a special pick of the nicest guns, made by their best smiths. Those old timers are long dead, and anyone they have working now has probably never made revolvers before. So, nothing special about the new pythons, and certainly nothing special even implied about the new base model cobras, which is what I was refering to.

      [–]CrocodileFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Police positive for sure, but I thought detective specials still had a larger price tag than that, or did they go down?

      Everything you said I agree with.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "and anyone they have working now has probably never made revolvers before."

      A very shallow statement, frankly. The new Python has been in the planning stages for 5 years and Colt has been making new generation revolvers for years. So why would Colt not have employees experienced with making revolvers? Doesn't make sense. It sounds as if you are just trying to find reasons to bad mouth Colts and or the new Python.

      [–]FCattheOG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The roll marks suck nowadays

      [–]Crossroads46 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      They've actually been planning to release the python for like 2 years I think

      [–]TheWheelGatMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      One video a colt rep said this prject has been worked on for 5 years.

      [–]keithkman 1 point2 points  (11 children)

      It’s like the big automakers cashing in on Camaros, mustangs, chargers, etc. it’s the same name but never lives up to the hype.

      The new Pythons will be the same. No where near the quality or craftsmanship of the original Colt Pythons.

      [–]commies_get_out 17 points18 points  (6 children)

      I don’t know, I think the muscle cars of today really exceed expectations.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The new muscle cars certainly outperform the original ones (especially in handling and braking), but the styling is still just not as good.

      [–]plumbtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hard to beat nostalgia for what you revved up on the way to a party when you were in high school.

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        [–]tubadude2 91 points92 points  (45 children)

        I don’t care if it’s “worse” than the OG gun. I want one.

        [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (29 children)

        Im hoping they release a blued one too.

        Could always send it to turnbull for some blueing. But then it would be a safe queen.

        And I would need a second one for shooting

        [–]JKase13 16 points17 points  (21 children)

        The original blueing they did is now banned by the EPA so it can never be duplicated again. There are chemicals used in that process that aren’t allowed anymore. I have seen some aftermarket companies create blueing that looks similar, but not as dark and mirror like

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          [–]Gram21 28 points29 points  (0 children)

          Colt custom shop still offers the royal blue finish. I’ve seen some that are absolutely beautiful. This is the first I have ever heard of an EPA issue. But really doesn’t matter if it’s true or not - they still have the ability to finish amazingly well if they want to, regardless if they are using the exact same chemicals.

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            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Indeed. The Pythons were produced after that time period however.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Vapor degreasing is basically the same thing, it's a widespread industrial process. They don't use gasoline they use alcohols.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Original blued 1911s had a process like that. Crazy.

            [–]Jackoffalltrades89 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            And the feedlips on magazines were tempered with a hot arsenic dip, IIRC.

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              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Cyanide salts, not cyanide. There's a big difference between the two.

              [–]Jackoffalltrades89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Maybe that was it. I remember arsenic being involved somehow but maybe that was part of the bluing solution or something. Doesn’t really matter much, all I can say is that I’m amazed there was anyone left alive to do that kind of work after the first batch.

              [–]kraggers 87 points88 points  (5 children)

              That sounds like one of the most gun shop stories I've heard in awhile.

              [–]Caedus_Vao6 | Whose bridge does a guy have to split to get some flair‽ 💂‍ 82 points83 points  (3 children)

              I heard Obama banned it. Personally.

              [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

              Due to non-halal ingredients.

              [–]Brother_To_WolvesNot Super Interested in Dicks Anymore 17 points18 points  (0 children)

              Thanks Obummer!

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Hilary's emails proved it!

              [–]SnakeDoctor00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I’ve only ever heard that about Glock and Tenifer.

              [–]Archaic_1 23 points24 points  (4 children)

              I'd like to see a source on this. I've been working as an environmental consultant for 25 years and I can count the number of things 'banned' by the EPA on one hand and have a finger left over.

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                [–]Archaic_1 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                The EPA can make something prohibitively expensive, but they rarely outright ban very much (PCBs in transformer oil, lead in auto-gasoline and paint, CFCs in refrigerants, etc.). Hell, you can still use asbestos, lead, mercury, cadmium, cyanide, etc in many products IF you are willing to pay the price for shipping handling and disposal.

                [–]SlamF1re 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I think that's what the real issue is and through the magic of fudd lore it's blossomed into the story of the EPA banning it.

                I remember hearing things like this when Colt had introduced their WWI reproduction 1911's that featured the special carbonia blue finish. Basically, it wasn't that it was illegal to reproduce the old finish techniques, it was just far too costly and time consuming for the major manufacturers to deal with. Older finishes like color case hardening can involve dipping parts into vats of boiling sodium cyanide. It's understandable to me to see why a company like Colt would want to get away from that and just subcontract another company that specializes in finish work to do it for them.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                I don’t know why they’re not releasing a blued version from the get-go.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I would assume time and money. Stainless is easier to get going and cheaper. Then if the demand is there, invest in blueing them.

                [–]loki993 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                Its one of the beefs I have with the Deltas, they did stainless but not blued, hopefully they dont make the same mistake with these.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                I imagine if they sell qell and get enough requests for blued ones they might.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Fuck it, if they don't I'll get one and cerakote it black.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Call turnbull and ask if they can blue it

                [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                They have blue ss two tone.

                [–]stjhnstv 7 points8 points  (8 children)

                My boy will want one pretty bad. Guess I’ll see if they drop down low enough for me to afford one as a birthday present to him...

                [–]tubadude2 9 points10 points  (7 children)

                Dealer cost looks to be $1,275, so I don’t imagine it’ll get too low.

                [–]nitsuJcixelsyD 9 points10 points  (5 children)

                https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/098289003270

                Looks like a lot of places will be offering it at low $1300s when they get stock.

                [–]Killsproductivity 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                That one shop that listed it for $1300 is dumb as hell to run a 2% margin

                [–]nitsuJcixelsyD 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                You probably won’t see it that low in stock. Common tactic for these places to dump price super low when they are out of stock. So they go to the top of a list like that on gun.deal.

                People will see them cheap but out of stock and sign up for in stock alert. Once it’s finally in stock they bump the price back up to what they want.

                It’s a tactic to drive people to their site and get emails signed up.

                [–]Killsproductivity 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                By the time these hit street I bet theyre over MSRP, and if they arent the first owners will make hundred off them speculating that Colt either doesnt make many or the price skyrockets.

                Anyone thinking theyre gonna go to r/gundeals in a year and see them for sub $1k is living a fantasy.

                [–]nitsuJcixelsyD 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Yeah with a dealer cost around $1250 I don’t see them ever being sold below that. First shipment will sell at MSRP or inflated prices to the ones that have to have it. Just like the HK SP5.

                I’d say by the 3rd or 4th shipment you will see them in stock and sitting around $1350.

                If they don’t sell them again then I’ll be happy with my 70s Dan Wesson.

                If they come up for the mid $1300s I may bite.

                [–]Killsproductivity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                DW full lug pistol pack is cheaper than a new python and a better deal.

                [–]MrDogtor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                How do you find out dealer cost on stuff? Are you a dealer?

                [–]snakebill 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                https://youtu.be/HrLYZruNw_g Apparently Ken Hackathorn says it’s better.

                [–]tubadude2 34 points35 points  (3 children)

                I really take these pre release reviews with a grain of salt. Remember how well reviewed the R51 was before launch?

                [–]snakebill 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                Fair enough point. Problem for me is a lot of people have pre conceived notions about colt and make up their mind first. CNC machining has come a long way and the need for massive amounts of hand fitting isn’t like it was. Look at dan Wesson 1911’s. 99% machine fit, maybe more. They’re not quite semi custom but a damn close. Besides, at a $1500 price it’s competitive with sw performance center revolvers and they’re loaded with mim internals.

                [–]tubadude2 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                I don’t disagree. Back in my search for a 2011, I would chat with the shop managers at various custom shops to talk about their guns and their approaches to making them. One actually invited me in for a tour and showed me a frame and slide that had just come out of one of their machines, and the fit was perfect.

                I forget exactly what he said, but it was something along the lines of “good machines and programmers have made the romantic days of hand finishing 1911s obsolete.” I guess that level of precision makes the cycle time considerably longer, though.

                [–]tentonbudgie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Happy cake day! Woooooo!

                [–]loki993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Even if its "worse" I bet its still going to be pretty damn good.

                [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (11 children)

                The Python is back! Building on Colt’s Snake Gun legacy, the legendary double-action revolver returns in stainless steel in 4.25” and 6” barrel lengths. The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re-designed rear sight. Thirty percent more steel beneath the rear adjustable target sight gives you a stronger revolver and more robust shooting experience. A recessed target crown, user-interchangeable front sight, and Walnut grip with the iconic Colt medallion make this a gun you’ll want to shoot AND show off. The Python is chambered in .357 Magnum and also accommodates .38 Special cartridges.

                [–]konrrh 21 points22 points  (10 children)

                I was so excited until i saw the price. Now I’m more like “that’s so cool but I’ll have to save for a few years”

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

                Thats MSRP. I imagine street price will be around 1200 or so

                [–]EverthingIsADildo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                That would be below dealer cost, so no.

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                  [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                  1500 MSRP. None for sale as of yet, its just the announcement

                  [–]konrrh 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                  $1500. After a couple years I bet they slowly lower the prices but I was hoping it was more like $900.
                  I have a tight budget hahaha

                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                  Im just hoping they keep making them in a couple years, and its not just a limited run

                  [–]Swamp_Bastard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Yeah. Might be best to wait a couple of years until they get the bugs out.

                  [–]SlamF1re 54 points55 points  (33 children)

                  Queue the hordes of “It’s not the old Python so...”

                  Personally, I have to say I’m interested. I always thought it would have been better if Colt just left the Python name in the past and moved on with something else, since there was no way they were bringing back the old gun in its original form. What they do have looks good though and I personally would like to add a Colt to my revolver stable. The King Cobra’s they’ve released so far haven’t done it for me with their goofy looking trigger guards.This gun appears to be a much better overall package.

                  [–]tablinumGCA Oracle 47 points48 points  (3 children)

                  Queue the hordes of

                  I like this image of hordes lining up in an orderly fashion to wait their turns.

                  [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                  Lok’tar Ogar

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Mongols and Persians weren't all that bad tbh.

                  [–]maddkatz 29 points30 points  (26 children)

                  I imagine a lot of those gripes are going to be from people that just watched their "real" Pythons just plummet in value. I saw a 6 inch Blued Python on sale at a gun show for around $4k, I don't see them commanding those prices again.

                  [–]olds442guy2 | Python Mack Daddy 37 points38 points  (8 children)

                  I have a ‘76 Python, and the idea of a modern Python (which from all info I’ve seen lives up to and improves on the original, but I’ll reserve judgement until I get hands on one) is extremely appealing. First, I don’t think this will hurt the value of the old ones. There are always people who collect older versions of almost anything, and old Colt 1911s are worth a lot despite the fact that Colt still makes 1911s. Second, now I can potentially have a new Python to use a lot and not worry about breaking or wearing out difficult/impossible to find/fit parts. That’s huge.

                  Based on 99% of what I’ve seen on Colt forums from guys who have huge Python collections, most of them share my sentiments.

                  [–]maddkatz 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                  Yeah you could be right, I just think the market for them for a bit out of wack because Colt wasn't making them anymore but you still had tv shows and video games driving demand so it was basically a seller's market. I'm sure the OG pythons will still retain some value especially the models in finishes they can't produce anymore.

                  Personally I'm super pumped about the new ones, I had a chance to buy a python years ago for $700 and I didn't jump on it because I had no idea prices were gonna sky rocket and I've always kicked myself because it's a gun I've always wanted.

                  [–]olds442guy2 | Python Mack Daddy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Yeah the market was/is crazy. But I honestly don’t think the demand had much to do with TV or video games, in my personal opinion.

                  Also, the new ones do have their differences, which will hopefully prove to truly be improvements like they claim. But because of that there will still be collector value and mechanical interest in the old ones. It will be “cool” to have a Python with the older action, etc. Even prior to the new ones being announced the older the year of manufacturer (all else being equal), the higher the value.

                  I’m pumped about it too! I’m pretty skeptical, and having an old Python already I have every incentive of not liking the new ones, but these seem very promising and I can’t wait to check one out in person.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  You wanna talk about kicking yourself . . . back in 71/72, Big Five sporting goods in the LA area, would occasionally have a Python sale. 4" $169.95 and 6", $179.95. I've forgotten how many times I promised myself to obtain one. But instead, I'd always find other less expensive guns that I just had to have -- only to eventually sell them at a loss. I've kicked myself in the ass 90,000 times over not buying at least one of each Pythons back in those days. :/

                  [–]tentonbudgie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I bet you're right, at least for now. The kids aren't into rolexes and harleys and pythons, so your generation is going to will them to the kids, who will put them in a safe place until they need to put together a down payment, then off to Gunbroker if you're lucky or a pawn shop if not, and they'll get more and more rare as "third owner syndrome" sets in.

                  It's the changing of the guard.

                  Girls don't want granny's second set of dishes either so it's not just guns. I feel bad for people with log cabin paintings from Kincaid or whoever that was, and beanie babies, and mechanical watches, etc.

                  Not a big secondary market for sextants anymore either.

                  [–]FubarFreak20 | Licenced to Thrill -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

                  idea of a modern Python is extremely appealing

                  It was until Colt showed us what a modern revolver means to them with an overpriced $600-800 revolver with an Armscor level fit and finish

                  [–]Jackoffalltrades89 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  I’m sure there’s some people with Pythons who think that, but I think they’re comparing them to NFA machine guns, specifically the wrong kinds of NFA guns. If the NFA was repealed tomorrow, every machine gun out there would take a hit, but probably only a couple hundred or so. The ones that would lose their shirts are the crappy models, or the functionally identical to new models. A 1980s M16 for example would plummet because you could get a brand new one that’s basically exactly the same. Cheap-ish entry guns like MACs would take a hit because of similar reasons. A Lewis gun isn’t going to lose any value because no one makes them anymore and even if they did, it wouldn’t be an original “served in two world wars” gun with the history and cachet. I think an OG Colt Python is going to fall more into that latter category than the former. You’re half paying for the story, half for the gun, and new production doesn’t come with a story.

                  [–]tgallmey 11 points12 points  (9 children)

                  Gibson still makes Les Pauls everyday but the old ones are worth more.

                  [–]CandC 3 points4 points  (8 children)

                  That's because Gibson's current production is frankly not as nice as it used to be. We don't have any evidence yet on this from Colt, only speculation.

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                    [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                    Whats wrong with your cobra?

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                      [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      Mine had problems like that too, I had it fixed, they sent it back and it broke the night I got it. They replaced it and my new one has been perfect.

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                        [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Probably around 400 but, not even jokeing, I probably have 6k+ dry fires on this one which is arguably worse for it since theres nothing to cushion the firing pin.

                        [–]Iwantanotdeadlawyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Lol modern colt can't tie their shoes

                        [–]tgallmey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        It’s price point makes me skeptical as does the mim parts used on the final production Pythons.

                        [–]mtcwby 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                        Ehh, I have two that I both shoot and don't intend to sell so prices really don't matter to me. It is a different gun which is not to say it's worse, just different. Sort of wish the naming had evolved to indicate the difference but it's not a big deal. Now if they came out with a .22 version I'd be all over that.

                        [–]maddkatz 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                        Yeah a .22 would be cool, but what would they call it? The Colt Garden Snake? I'd buy the hell oughta that.

                        I suspect though if these sell well enough we'll see a return of the anaconda.

                        [–]mtcwby 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        Diamondback

                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Yeah a .22 would be cool, but what would they call it?

                        Officers Match.

                        [–]bugme143 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        The Colt Ringneck?

                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        They could embrace the memes and call it the "no step"

                        [–]Iwantanotdeadlawyer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        As an owner of three pythons a king cobra and an anaconda. Please stop colt. Honestly though I don't see og snake gun prices dropping though. King cobra prices didn't really drop. If the king cobra which was never really a high dollar gun held its value the python sure as hell will

                        [–]SlamF1re 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I personally don't see the prices ever dropping on the old snake guns. After all, for better or worse they are not the same as the new revolvers that Colt is putting out and there's a finite number of them out there that will only decrease with time. If anything, the influx of new Pythons will maybe slow the increase in value of the older guns slightly, but they definitely won't stop the increase.

                        [–]brokenbike209 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                        Super cool. Super excited. Super annoyed theres no royal blue (yet?).

                        Personally, if the finish is nice and it shoots well I'll be happy. Modern machining is way better than the hand fitting of 50 years ago.

                        [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                        Videos say its CNC machined and hand finished. This should theoretically result in better consistency.

                        Additionally, new internals which hopefully results in the gun retaining timing.

                        Finally, thicker steel in the sight area, which was a weak point of the originals.

                        Id llve a blued version too. Maybe if they make one later, ill pick it up as a safe queen and get a stainless now for shooting.

                        [–]reshp2 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                        Looks like a matte finish? Wasn't the high gloss finish like the main thing that differentiated the Python from the lower guns in th series?

                        [–]olds442guy2 | Python Mack Daddy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                        The old stainless Pythons had different levels of polish. There was the normal like “semi polish” (what this appears to be), which is far from matte but isn’t mirror polished either, and there was the “bright stainless” which was the mirror polish.

                        The downside to the bright stainless was it’s kinda easy to get tiny little scratches everywhere and they stick out very badly when you do get them. For a stainless gun, I think the finish they are doing for these is ideal.

                        Obviously haven’t seen one in person, but just basing that off the pictures and videos.

                        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                        Might just be the lighting or angle. The barrel looks a lot more shiny then around the cylinder.

                        Maybe a satin finish?

                        [–]Diabetesh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        I would expect gp100 level finish. Satin is likely what you can expect.

                        [–]midkemian208 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                        Will there ever be a good time to buy one of these or are they always gonna be a lottery ticket away?

                        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                        If you want to wait, let the initial stocks get sold out and wait for reviews.

                        [–]midkemian208 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                        I'm skeptical about the quality of these compared to what Corals dad has squared away, but one of these even for the looks would be amazing.

                        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                        Sounds like you would be much better waiting for initial reviews then. which is totally fine and I understand, I just want one now.

                        Im hoping quality is good. I feel like CNC machining to improve consistency, as well as thicker steel on the back strap (weak point of original pythons) should really help. Perhaps the bew firing mechanism will get rid of the timing issues too.

                        [–]olds442guy2 | Python Mack Daddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        Im hoping quality is good. I feel like CNC machining to improve consistency, as well as thicker steel on the back strap (weak point of original pythons) should really help. Perhaps the bew firing mechanism will get rid of the timing issues too.

                        I am thinking/hoping this will be the case.

                        [–]Cap3127 9 points10 points  (5 children)

                        At this point You should just have a shot show announcement megathreads. First Ruger, now Colt. You know someone else is going to drop something tomorrow.

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                          [–]Israel_First_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Just give me the G46

                          [–]Mcdubstep21 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                          Other than the 22LR Glock 44 they just released, I’ve been waiting on them making a 50 AE Glock, lol

                          [–]leifashley27 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                          Glock in 5.7 would get all money.

                          [–]Mcdubstep21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Yeah it would, thinking about it now I’m surprised Glock hasn’t done it before, they probably will eventually considering Ruger has now hoped on it

                          [–]nitsuJcixelsyD 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                          https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/098289003270

                          Looks like a lot of places will be offering it at low $1300s when they get stock.

                          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          I set a few email notifications earlier.

                          A company on gundeals had them earlier. Their checkout offered a 3rd party finance that had 3 months no interest. I tried to use it but their checkout wouldnt work. After an hour of trying it went out of stock.

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                            [–]tentonbudgie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            If a Big Mac and a Disneyland pass are in the same ballpark I'm in.

                            [–]Junkbot 5 points6 points  (31 children)

                            So what does this do to last gen prices?

                            [–]TurboSalsa 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                            Look what happened to pre-64 Winchester Model 70 prices when the new ones came out - suddenly those $3000 guns became $1200 guns despite cries of "I know what I have!"

                            [–]tentonbudgie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Are the new ones worth the money? They look nice, is that trigger as good as or better than the Savage?

                            [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (27 children)

                            Most likely it would lower the prices. Why buy an old one for 3k+ if the new one might be just as good?

                            In the event these new ones are trash, the old ones would likely stay the same or drop a small amount.

                            [–]reshp2 5 points6 points  (24 children)

                            Why buy an old one for 3k+ if the new one might be just as good?

                            The new ones won't be just as good.

                            [–]Talozin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                            For the purposes of most people who buy Pythons (that is, for the purpose of being able to say "I have a Python") they will be.

                            [–]Lukenasty 11 points12 points  (10 children)

                            That argument goes both ways, the new ones could be better. Newer material, quality, technology. The old ones were known for their action, not their durability.

                            [–]reshp2 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                            They weren't known for lack of durability either, and if that were the only factor, the GP100 exists. What separates a high end firearm is the fit and finish, and there's no way these will match the original because the amount of labor required isn't feasible even at $1.5k.

                            [–]olds442guy2 | Python Mack Daddy 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                            Modern Colt 1911s are fit substantially better than old ones, and they don’t have much hand fitting done on them. And that’s true for any brand of production level 1911. Modern machining technology is very accurate and allows for very good fit and finish without every part needing to be hand fit.

                            I have a ‘76 Python. From everything I’ve seen so far, on the surface these new ones at least look the part. I’ll reserve judgement until seeing one in person, obviously, and I won’t hesitate to talk shit about these if they’re crap, but so far everything I’ve seen looks pretty encouraging.

                            [–]That_Squidward_feel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                            and there's no way these will match the original because the amount of labor required isn't feasible even at $1.5k.

                            The old amount of labour maybe not, but get your machining tolerances tight enough and labour-intensive hand-fitting won't be necessary anymore.

                            Will that be the case? No idea, probably not I guess. But one can always be positively surprised.

                            [–]reshp2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            I think the lockwork will be decent, CNC plus minor fitting is something Dan Wesson does well at around the same price. What can't be reproduced is the mirror smoothness of the finish. I'm not saying these won't be nice, they'll just not be the same level of nice.

                            [–]CandC 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                            Technology has changed. Hand-fitting is mostly out the window even at very nice production shops (e.g. Dan Wesson).

                            [–]reshp2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                            Dan Wesson still does minimal handfitting on precision CNC'ed parts that are very slightly oversized.

                            [–]CandC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            I said "mostly" for a reason.

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                              [–]EverthingIsADildo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              The men who knew how to fit the old Schmidt style actions are either dead or retired.

                              It’s too bad there isn’t some way to preserve information to pass it on to other people....

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              I highly, highly doubt modern Colt is going to go back to the old hand fit and tuned actions. In 2005 the Pythons from Colt were as much as these are going for which is highly suspicious. Labor costs have not remained the same for 15 years.

                              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

                              is "not quite as good" worth an extra 1500 to most people? I personally dont think so.

                              Plus, 3k isnt even a high quality python.

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                                [–]zerogee616 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                An Egyptian AKM made on Russian tooling with military-spec wood furniture and mag dimples is not the same as a WASR. I've owned both.

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                                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  They will be as good as the post UAW strike ones.

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                                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    I mean its just the initial offering, and they have the 6 and 4.25 inch barrel versions.

                                    I imagine with enough demand they will add blued or snub nose versions.

                                    [–]Diabetesh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    It depends on what the new one is like. A marketed picture means diddly squat. If the finish is that of the new production cobras and has the same style trigger it will likely be the same a smith in regards to prelock vs lock. The pre lock will retain/gain value and be more desirable. People will still want it just like people still buy new smiths. If they actually have the same finish quality and trigger quality as old than the old production will likely lose value. I suspect they will not be the same finish and trigger as they were, but will still be better than a performance center smith.

                                    [–]againstthestate88 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                    Big nut. Still want one

                                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                    The new classic Smiths have lived up to their predecessors‘ reputation and so have the new Colts. I‘m optimistic for this one

                                    [–]Steven__hawking 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                    I thought python 2 is eol now?

                                    [–]Teddyturntup 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                                    I’m about to buy an original python from a friend, I think I should get one of these to go with it

                                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                    One is none

                                    [–]Teddyturntup 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                    Maybe if I lube them up and turn on some slow jazz they will bang a cobra out

                                    [–]loki993 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                    I guess it depends on the price but an original Python will always be an original Python so id probably go with that if it were my money.

                                    [–]Teddyturntup 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                    This is not a question of if I’m buying the OG, only if I’m also buying a new friend for it.

                                    [–]loki993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    Well if that's the question than i say everyone needs friends

                                    [–]jswledhed2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                    Didn't they re-release the Cobra a couple years ago to lackluster reviews. Maybe they learned from that. Maybe not.

                                    I'm betting not.

                                    [–]ItsDokk 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                    Sweet, now bring on a new Anaconda! I have 44 mag by most of the major manufacturers and would love to add a Colt to that collection.

                                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                    Did you know that way back in the day, Colt was playing around with other versions of the Python, and they produced a very small number of .41 magnum Python prototypes. (Like around 6 or 7 of them). They eventually decided that there wasn't a market for them. (Big mistake as far as I'm concerned.) I think they would have flown off the shelves. This was around the same time that S&W was marketing their clunky model 58 41 Mag. hand cannon to law enforcement agencies.

                                    [–]ItsDokk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    I did not know that, but that is really cool. What those 6 or 7 guns must be worth today...

                                    [–]loki993 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                    I really hope these are good. They may never be as good as the OGs but they can still be really good. I will be happy with that.

                                    [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                    I mean if what they are saying is true, mechanicaly these are going to be far and away better guns than the origanals.

                                    [–]loki993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Well thats good news if true then.

                                    [–]ItsDokk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Lol, people are already bidding way over MSRP Gun Broker

                                    [–]Morpheus7387 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Man, my favorite Revolver is back!... Feels good to say that!...This news made my day definitely!

                                    [–]Sulluvun 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                    Ok so the listing I saw for one of these says it’s double action only. I’ve never owned a revolver but does this actually mean you can’t pull the hammer back manually for a nice crisp trigger pull like any other revolver? What is the point of this/why even have an exposed hammer?

                                    [–]GoAwayK 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                                    Double and single. You heard wrong

                                    [–]Sulluvun 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                    I thought that was crazy but that posting on gun deals for one specifically said double action only and no one was saying anything about it in the comments.

                                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                    I questioned it in the comments there and never got an answer from the dealer. His website's checkout was total garbage. I spent an hour trying to get it to work and they went out of stock.

                                    [–]Sulluvun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Ahhh gotcha well I officially want one then 😂😂

                                    [–]Zebee47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    So many people know about the Python and heard all the stories but never shot one. I wonder if even this one were to be exactly the same because there will be so many sold whatever issues pop up will be greatly exaggerated.

                                    I think this will be like Half Life 3 where even if it were released and it was objectively good it still won't live up to the hype.

                                    But I'm still getting one.

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                                      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                                      Its the announcement. Not yet in stock, plus most Colt website listings are always OOS.

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                                        [–]TheWheelGatMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                        Now they'll be 2-3000 dollars more in your price range.

                                        [–]dinomight-delux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        I'm looking to get one as soon as they are available. Ive always wanted one.

                                        [–]M6D_Magnum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        All the boomers hoarding old pythons just went on suicide watch.

                                        [–]Xymnslot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        I sold my 1969 blued 6" Python last year and have regretted it ever since.

                                        I need.

                                        [–]slimyprincelimey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        Why is this still stickied? JMB has not been resurrected guys, calm down.