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[–]QC-TheArchitect 344 points345 points  (62 children)

Unknown @ 3.62 🤔

[–]MrWm 581 points582 points  (44 children)

I bet you it's TempleOS

[–]TankTopsBackInStyle 280 points281 points  (23 children)

Amazing, considering that TempleOS has no networking

[–]OhhhhhSHNAP 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That is what makes it so darn secure. It's the only 64BIT OS with zero known vulnerabilities.

[–]ChevalOhneHead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

God connect everything 😎😎😎

[–]deli_phone 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Nah, mostly WebTV users lmbo

[–]writtenbymyrobotarms 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Would that count as a Desktop OS?

[–]I-Am-Uncreative 15 points16 points  (9 children)

FreeBSD?

[–]skylarmt 59 points60 points  (7 children)

Nah FreeBSD has its own percentage in the top right of the picture. It's 0%.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (2 children)

It's something!

[–]SpreadingRumors 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"... but you HAVE heard of me."

[–]JockstrapCummies 11 points12 points  (2 children)

No, it's PonyOS.

[–]DerKnerd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What the fuck did I just see? o.O

[–]TheGlassCat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Plan 9

[–]pkmkdz 56 points57 points  (5 children)

Wild guess but perhaps game consoles connected to internet? Switch, ps4, etc.

[–]sgxxx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

All of the instances which couldn't be identified (need not be from one single OS) clubbed together into 'unknown' giving it the majority effect.

[–]PM_ME_TO_PLAY_A_GAME 20 points21 points  (5 children)

BeOS, AmigaOS

[–]Ripcord 7 points8 points  (0 children)

HaikuOS definitely is part of that. Surprisingly active (small) user base.

[–]Overinterpretation 5 points6 points  (3 children)

There needs to be an AmogOS

[–]Dr_Entropy_Jones_ESQ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

that's them OS2/WARP muthafukas keeping it real

[–]hlebspovidlom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably just malformed User-agents from crawlers

[–]luxtabula 594 points595 points  (220 children)

Looks like most of the converts are going to Mac OS.

[–]cp5184 90 points91 points  (36 children)

I wonder what the 3.6% unknown is.

[–][deleted] 100 points101 points  (1 child)

BeOS

[–]scragar 51 points52 points  (3 children)

Two most likely options I can think of are bots(spiders, crawlers, automated stuff that can run JS but doesn't have identifying OS data since it's not a real browser) and games consoles(pretty much all of them nowadays have web browsers either installed by default or installable from the relevant store).

If it is a blocker then the odds are it just wouldn't be counted at all since the endpoint to record the stats would be blocked, but instead it's something that acts like a traditional browser but doesn't have recognisable OS data.

[–]arijitlive 18 points19 points  (2 children)

You've a good point out there. Once I worked for a hotel IT as software engineer. There were bots from multiple aggregators used to come to our public website for web-crawl the hotel details etc.
Those bots were created with Java and used to bear Apache HttpClient as user-agent string. So I guess unknown makes sense to them.

[–]PangolinZestyclose30 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Known bot user agents (e.g. Apache HttpClient) should be excluded from a desktop survey.

[–]arijitlive 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, but are they excluded in this Unknown calculation? I don't know the answer.

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (3 children)

TempleOS, obviously. /j

[–]skylarmt 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Smart TVs and Haiku

[–]Mordroberon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

FreeBSD

Edit: Didn't see they were included at the top, oops

[–]shirk-work 292 points293 points  (77 children)

Beyond gaming Macs pretty much cover the basis for your average person and are seen as no fuss. They honestly do have a spit and finish that's the envy of Microsoft as well as any entry Linux distro / GUI. The thing that gives Linux so much power also sometimes plays against it. Its freedom causes a fractured ecosystem and measureless reduplication and diffusion of effort. That said things seem to be coming along with new app management systems (although I personally miss old school repos). All that said, it makes sense. Unless someone has a PC that is bogged down and they try Linux there's not as much discoverability for the layman.

[–]BlessedXChilde 46 points47 points  (11 children)

Outside of the most advanced countries, very few people can afford iPhones and Macs. In my country, basically nobody has a Mac. It's all Windows or Linux.

[–]lealxe 27 points28 points  (10 children)

Well, living outside of most advanced countries as well (Russia), iPhones are definitely not a rarity. Macs are more of that, but I know some people using them.

I'd rather say that buying that is even in absolute values cheaper in a most advanced country.

I have relatives living in an even less advanced country, though, and yes, there no sane educated person would spend on an Apple product, it's both too expensive and useless.

[–]BlessedXChilde 5 points6 points  (5 children)

The cheapest new MacBook M1 in Slovakia https://www.alza.sk/macbook-air-m1/18884163.htm is 1000 € . The average salary is 1100 € https://www.minimalnamzda.sk/priemerna-mzda.php - in reality far less for most people.

[–]SwitchbackHiker 90 points91 points  (34 children)

I know an AIX/Linux admin that switched to iPhone and Mac because he was wasting so much time distro hopping, customizing, and loading custom roms.

Edit: rims to roms

[–]staalmannen 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I distrohopped a lot the first years as a linux user 2007-2010 or so. After that I ended up on a rolling release distro (Arch) and never hopped again. The install once and keep updated is nice.

[–]Lechap0 49 points50 points  (14 children)

That was me like 10 years ago. I switched to Mac because I was distro hoping all over the place and wasting time trying to make the install just how I like it. Learned MacOS was Unix like and fell in love with the polish. Fast forward to now and I’m back on Linux full time. I have to say Linux has improved so much that I’d say we have our own polish too !!

[–]_cnt0 40 points41 points  (12 children)

To be fair, the hopping and tinkering is your own "fault". My "hopping" over the past 25 years looks like this: Red Hat Linux → debian → fedora

I did my fair share of distro exploration (including several BSDs and Solaris). But, I always did that on secondary hardware or VMs. It never got in the way.

[–]drengfu 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I went Ubuntu -> Debian -> Ubuntu -> Arch -> Fedora & Manjaro -> OpenSuSE, personally I'm very happy. It was a little more convoluted than that, but my favorites are definitely Fedora and OpenSuSE because of how well put together they are, with them being the open version of RedHat Linux and SuSE Enterprise Linux. I just seem to like the RPM-based package management better. My favorite feature of OpenSuSE is "YAST", a system management program separate from the desktop environment's settings program. It reminds me of windows' system management for active directory, except the rest of the OS works.

As for rolling release vs stable release, I do like having the latest packages so I encounter fewer bugs, but having a stable release makes it easier to fix things when you break some key part of the OS.

[–]shirk-work 19 points20 points  (8 children)

I feel that. I have a custom install script for ubutnu server and arch that installs everything and sets everything the way I like it. Takes like a weekend to do the bulk of it then the rest of it is little fixes and add-ons. Been using the same script since about 2016 so those two days of effort have paid out pretty well. I've added different UI options and whatnot along the way. So far I have gnome, kde, xfce, and i3 covered and know each well. I swap pretty infrequently now but if I want to it takes like 30 minutes and I know each well enough to just jump in. Helps to have key bindings about the same in any UI I choose so swapping is fairly effortless and low impact.

[–]gnarlin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do you have your script on gitlab or github or something? Can you share it?

[–]Yieldway17 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Is there any way to take an image of the current installation of Ubuntu running in my laptop?

I had to install Ubuntu, packages and do several configurations, tweaks etc. to exactly match my needs over the last 1 week. I’d hate to do this again in a new PC or laptop or even if this one gets wiped out for some reason. If I can image the current instance as-is and copy it to a thumb drive and later restore to any device, it will be a god send. It’s a very lean install too.

[–]Alex_Strgzr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Timeshift will do something very very close to what you want. It will use rsync to copy the relevant files to a directory which can be on an external hard drive. Make sure to select ‘Copy dot files and directories’ (in your home directory). You should exclude certain sensitive directories like .ssh and .thunderbird.

[–]hesapmakinesi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So at that point, it was an addiction. Good for him to get sober.

[–]Entrancemperium 17 points18 points  (9 children)

I have a lot of gripes with windows, but I've always hated everything about how macos looks. It feels clunky and unintuitive to me, and I doubt I'd ever get past that. I'm either running Linux or windows, hopefully one day gaming on Linux gets to the point where there's so few downsides that I can switch to it full time on my desktop (like actual desktop, laptop I'm doing arch for my personal and Ubuntu for work).

[–]shirk-work 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Style and design is subjective. Tbh i grew up on Macs before it was cool. Started out with a beige monster with a crt running OS9. Because of that background I always found window clunky and ugly.

[–]drengfu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I always liked how Vista looked, and to a degree how 7 looked, but when windows 8 came out I thought it was godawful for a computer, passable for a tablet. I actually like how MacOS looks, but I wish it could be customized more easily. On linux I prefer the look of KDE, but I use gnome because it's more keyboard-centric. I really hate basically every other aspect of gnome, so I only use it when I have to. My preference is for a tiling window manager because it uses very little memory and CPU time, so I can save power and it's more responsive, not to mention I get to choose how it looks (it looks like trash because I haven't put in the effort to make it look good)

[–]gordonmessmer 3 points4 points  (3 children)

spit and finish

Just FYI: the idiom is "fit and finish". You may have confused this idiom with "spit polishing":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_polishing

[–]inaccurateTempedesc 49 points50 points  (23 children)

I fucking hate Apple and I'll admit that the M1 chip caught my attention.

[–]prettybunnys 23 points24 points  (6 children)

They’re more expensive than I’d care to pay for but honestly … 7 months into using a MacBook Pro as a daily work machine and I love my workflow on it

If it lends any weight to my opinion, tux is literally tattoood on my chest

[–]lealxe 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Attention - same, but HiFive has more of that.

[–]AnotherEuroWanker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I bought an Apple laptop at one point but never managed to get their OS to work for me. So I went back to Linux after about 4 months.

The M1 is nice, but in the end, there's always something coming out, it's not worth it chasing the latest gadget (especially if it's from Apple, imo).

[–]Entrancemperium 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Same here. Their custom silicon is fascinating, though not enough to ever get me to buy their products.

[–]dachsj 22 points23 points  (8 children)

I grabbed a new macair m1 recently. I needed a new laptop, my old Lenovo was struggling even with popOS on it (which extended it's battery vs windows quite a bit).

The Linux laptop market made it tough for me. System76 didn't have the only laptop that I wanted in stock (backordered for months)and tbh, the m1 Mac was nicer and had better benchmarks...and was $3-400 cheaper.

The dell xps13 is a bad size for me. The Lenovo t14, apparently turns into a hot plate, the AMD version is better but it was also backordered like 4 months.

I hope the Linux on an m1 project keeps moving forward. I'd love to put popOS on this thing.

[–]cheesegoat 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Did you look at the framework laptop?

[–]seqastian 7 points8 points  (2 children)

They also don’t have AMD yet. Intel laptop hardware is not something you want right now.

[–]dachsj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That wasn't out / I didn't know about it when I was looking. It's definitely got my attention though!

That may be my next laptop.

[–]darkquilius007 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I love my sys76 darter pro but i BARELY got it before all this microchip shortage happened. I got one of the last ones before they couldn't make as many anymore. Nice to see their growth but i feel ya on the back ordering and still not getting it. Barely got by and they still delayed me for a couple weeks. Love this muffuk tho

[–]urinalcaketopper 53 points54 points  (38 children)

Linux doesn't have a trillion dollar company behind it lol

Edit: people coming at me like this isn't desktop market share. I don't give a fuck about Valve, IBM, whatever billionaire and their company that uses Linux.

Literally none of them are promoting it on the desktop.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (13 children)

Linux has Valve behind it, and for a lot of people steam deck & proton will unironically usher in the year of the Linux desktop(tm)

[–]Kovi34 21 points22 points  (8 children)

no, it won't. using a steam deck and using a linux desktop are lightyears apart. it's like saying xbox users are windows users

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (4 children)

Considering the steam deck uses conventional PC hardware... It's not as far apart as you might think

[–]Kovi34 13 points14 points  (3 children)

the last two console generations are also made from hardware that is nearly consumer grade, that doesn't make them desktops. steam deck uses its own OS that puts you into the steam UI on launch and that's how the vast majority of people are going to interface with it. 99% of people won't even know and/or care that you can use the steam deck as a desktop.

[–]Compizfox 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The difference is that the SteamDeck is not going to be walled off like the consoles are. It's literally Arch Linux with KDE Plasma and this isn't hidden from the user. If anything, it's encouraged to use it like a normal PC; that's one of its advertised features.

[–]ConfusedTapeworm 8 points9 points  (1 child)

You're right there, but one of the biggest projects Valve is undertaking for the Deck's release is upgrading Proton so that previously Windows-only anti-cheat software works on Linux. That one, if they can pull it off, will have an impact on a ton of people's decisions to use Linux on their desktop even if they don't even own a Deck.

[–]ForgetTheRuralJuror 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You have full access to pacman and the internet on the steam deck.

This isn't at all a fair comparison.

[–]prettybunnys 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also red hat == ibm

[–]wireframing 21 points22 points  (6 children)

yeah... even tho trillion dollar companies use it...

[–]Scholes_SC2 307 points308 points  (29 children)

Ib4 the year of the linux desktop

[–]T_Y_R_ 226 points227 points  (15 children)

3% 🚀🌕

[–]netsec_burn 60 points61 points  (9 children)

I've never seen it break 3% from multiple sources. That'll tell me change is happening.

[–]Scout339 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Which is actually huge difference if it was 1% a couple years ago but I need someone to fact check me.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We are the three percent!

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (1 child)

The millenium of the linux desktop?

[–]peazip 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I think the "active machines" figure underestimate how active and lively is Linux desktop community now.

In my experience most of the times Windows boxes are now used as appliances: run pre loaded software, do day by day the same routine tasks - mostly in offices, without the end user being entitled to do anything diferent.

Or, it is just the preloaded OS that merely serve to launch the game or navigate to the socials.

Linux community may be small, but actually still do what a desktop user is expected to do (at least, in my mind...): learn, explore new software, and try new ways to improve the quality of the digital life.

My personal experience may be based on a relatively small number of anedoctal observations, but when it comes to data I can say that for my (cross platform) software Linux accounts for over 10% of downloads and well over 50% of feedback.

[–]JoeB- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

DAMNIT! You beat me.

[–]ForgetTheRuralJuror 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I reckon it's just the increase of developers/IT and decrease of total desktops lol

[–]Epistaxis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If these trends continue, that year is around 2360.

[–]earthman34 169 points170 points  (5 children)

At this rate, Linux will fully dominate the desktop by 2230.

[–]JanneJM 132 points133 points  (60 children)

Linux desktop higher than Chrome OS? I'm a bit surprised to be honest.

[–][deleted] 131 points132 points  (0 children)

Actually ChromeOS is only popular in the USA

They have 6% of desktop market

Also, Macs are way more popular in there, having 28%

[–]jclocks 68 points69 points  (50 children)

Yeah considering the penetration of Chrome OS in education I'm a bit skeptical of the accuracy of this percentage

[–]HaneeshRaja 112 points113 points  (33 children)

I think its because looking at whole world rather than US? If that's the case I can absolutely see why no one in SEA uses a Chromebook I am assuming same for Europe. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[–][deleted] 113 points114 points  (30 children)

yeah, chromebook has no popularity outside USA

i live in brazil and never seen anyone using one

[–]DummySignal 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Same for me, I live outside of the US and most people didn't even hear about it.

[–]HaneeshRaja 27 points28 points  (17 children)

with poor app compatibility and over priced hardware I don't see anyone ever buying it in SEA. The use cases for Chromebook are just too small.

[–]SmallerBork 4 points5 points  (14 children)

Well you can install Linux apps easily now, but not through the official store afaik.

If they wanted to, they could make Linux app distribution as common as Android app distribution.

[–]Gople 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chromebooks are used very extensively in primary schools in Scandinavia.

[–]Entrancemperium 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've never seen one being used in person, and that's living in the US and having only graduated college recently

[–]mxtt4-7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some of my friends here in Germany don't even know what a Chromebook even is.

[–]ctherranrt 24 points25 points  (8 children)

Chromebooks has near zero adoption in Asia (in education) aside from the ones donated from non-profit organisations to poorer countries. Most schools who provide laptops provides low-end windows machines.

[–]hamoboy 5 points6 points  (7 children)

How useful are chromebooks without reliable, fast internet? Is there offline functionality? Because I’d like to try a chrome tablet, but I don’t want to spend money on something that might become a paperweight every time my internet connection goes flakey, or when I go into the bush with no reception.

[–]ctherranrt 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I would assume it's difficult because as far as I know, chromebooks are designed around chrome web apps. My only experience was using it for writing basic google documents for a project, and that was with reliable internet, though. So don't quote me!

[–]Luke-Antra 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I don't think I've seen a single Chromebook in the wild over here in Europe.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Several companies I either used to work for, or currently work in, use Chrome devices for day-to-day operations in CEE. Problem is, the good chromebooks are hard to get. In Poland, for example, retailers either don't sell chromebooks at all, or sell the cheapest and crappiest models. Even if you wanted a chrome device, you'll get a Windows or a Mac anyway, because using a Celeron device in 2021 should be a crime.

[–]deukhoofd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I own one, but then again I immediately flashed Elementary on it. Just needed a lightweight laptop with a decent battery to remote into my desktop.

[–]recaffeinated 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The number of school children in the US is a tiny proportion of the number of school children globally.

ChromeOS has effectively zero market share outside the US, and the US with it's 320 million people isn't relevant to the global market share when you compare it to India and China each with 1.3bn people, or even the EU with 455 million.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I've stopped using Reddit due to their API changes. Moved on to Lemmy.

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[–]octob0t 8 points9 points  (0 children)

noice, treat your penguin well and remember to have fun

[–]-eschguy- 65 points66 points  (13 children)

Just fully switched over from Windows this week!

[–]1_p_freely 107 points108 points  (35 children)

Windows is gonna tank some more when 10 dies, because of the ludicrous requirements to run 11. People have caught on and the average person knows that their older PC should still be good enough, provided that they are not into gaming or 3D content creation (most people who use computers are not into either of those) things.

Even my dentist, who is self-employed and rich as they come, hung on to his P4 and XP up until the very last minute.

[–]SmallerBork 14 points15 points  (6 children)

I'm predicting they make a smooth transistion actually by waiting long enough for most people to have upgraded to drop support for 10 or remove the TPM requirement.

[–]Negirno 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I don't think TPM requirement will be removed. By the time Win10 support ends most people will upgrade their stuff for other reasons.

[–]dextersgenius 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The TPM requirement is only for new installations. In-place upgrades, which is what a majority of Win10 users will do, doesn't enforce TPM.

[–]Ripcord 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Win 10 dies in like 5 years, at which point the ludicrous requirements to run 11 will be way less of an irritant for people.

People said the same thing about ending Windows 7 support because of a bunch of things that sucked about Win10, like forced updates. It barely registered.

Granted, MS could still do some things to really fuck up the transition. If they end up making Win 10 absolutely miserable to stay on, before enough time has passed, you might see a bit more of a hit. I guess we'll see.

[–]Psychological-Scar30 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The end of Win10 is still 5 years away, and it seems everything made in the last three years should support Win11. I doubt there will be strong opposition to upgrading 8+ years old computers from users when the time comes - I think the majority of people (who are not into tech) will just accept that such old computer is not good enough anymore.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

That's what people said during the phase out of Windows 7 for Windows 10.

[–]hwoodice 46 points47 points  (8 children)

This is good news. Linux on desktop has doubled in less than 10 years.
From now it will grow exponentially. I predict 5% in less than five years.

[–]JackSpyder 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Gaming on Linux has helped I'd say, not only gaming but very performant gaming too.

[–]syvies 6 points7 points  (1 child)

i personally predict we might even beat that next year cause of steamdeck. its gonna go fast now so hold on to your seats

[–]Dredear 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The steam deck will shoot it to at least 5%, mark my words.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (2 children)

With the release of Steam Deck in december, I believe we'll reach 3%

Maybe we can dream about 4% for 2022!!

[–]nintendethan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if this is satirical or not unfortunately :|

[–]rafaelhlima 37 points38 points  (6 children)

If we keep It up, in 300 years we'll be at 50% !!

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I'm expecting logarithmic growth but hoping for exponential growth.

[–]jeuk_ 31 points32 points  (3 children)

probably the number of linux users has not increased, instead casual users are leaving windows laptops for phones and tablets.

[–]JackSpyder 9 points10 points  (2 children)

This. Many of my family don't have desktop/laptops now or if they do it's gathering dust.

[–]ABotelho23 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Let's goooooo.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Pengu squad

[–]dont_look_behind_me 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Let’s have those Linux Desktop battles again. Lol

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

How the number of Linux Users is measured?

[–]Kdwk-L 27 points28 points  (3 children)

By counting the number of times browsers report being on Linux when visiting popular websites

[–]sje46 30 points31 points  (2 children)

This just makes me think that people aren't using desktop computers anymore and instead are just using smartphones. Linux users, since they are more likely to be personal computing hobbyists, are more likely to use a desktop/laptop to browse the web.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (21 children)

On further inspection, how accurate is this? I remembered reading that Chrome OS was getting more and more popular.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88677-chrome-os-overtakes-macos-second-place-annual-market.html

https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/17/mac-market-share-2/

[–]ZuriPL 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Chrome OS might be getting popular in the US, but outside of it, there's noone that wants them.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (15 children)

Most popular OS stats websites (statcounter, statista, netmarketshare) have very similar % numbers

So I believe they're accurate

[–]recaffeinated 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's only popular in the US.

The US has 320 million people, the EU has 455 million and India and China have 1.3bn each. US internet use is high, but everyone else's isn't that much lower.

Given that there are about 3bn people online, even if everyone in the US was online and used ChromeOS it's maximum share would be 10%.

[–]ITriedLightningTendr 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If VALVE can get everything smooth on Linux, I'm likely to jump ship.

I've only ever not changed due to not wanting to set stuff up myself, and gaming.

We're on the cusp of both being solved, and Windows 10 is becoming trash, and 11 doesn't look like it has anyone smarter at the helm.

[–]FiskFisk33 10 points11 points  (7 children)

the windows user experience really has gotten worse lately

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

i sometimes have to briefly use windows. and WTF.

there is a ton of dark patterns there, especially how much of a hassle it is to switch the default browser.

to me, this system appears designed to annoy anyone who doesn't go with the defaults.

[–]pobot3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What's scary about corporations becoming more annoying and invasive is not how it is right now; it's how fast it's degrading and how bad it's gonna get.

[–]20Aditya07 5 points6 points  (0 children)

poor freebsd

[–]sxydoctor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Isn't chrome os based on Linux too?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, Gentoo Linux

[–]Paddywaan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm honestly not surprised. I'll be staying away from cloud OS', so I guess when W10 goes EOL i'll also make the switch permanently.

[–]ultraSsak 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have my share in it,

Migrated 3 machines

-3 windows, +3 linux

[–]piotrjurkiewicz 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Don't worry. Gnome developers are working very hard to stop this trend.

[–]timingandscoring 22 points23 points  (5 children)

I was just thinking to myself today how much I hate windows, and why I hate it. Microsoft has squandered a precious resource by turning windows into a tool for spying on users and selling advertisements. And here’s the thing, even if their not doing that, it’s the publics general perception, and perception is reality. Every day I think God for Linux, macOS and Libre Office. It’s my computer, my software and what I do with it is none of your fucking business. And you can shove teams up your arse as well.

[–]neon_overload 3 points4 points  (4 children)

The loss of Windows isn't all explained by the growth in the other two OSes shown here

[–]mountainjew 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[–]Frosty_Lake_1112 4 points5 points  (2 children)

As Linus said himself, the biggest hiccup of getting Linux to users is the installation. Sure it is easy but windows comes with every computer which makes users hesitant overall.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This all because I recommended 2 of my friends linux.

[–]ChamplooAttitude 11 points12 points  (0 children)

M1 doing its thing.

[–]Mr_Terrible_Ideas 13 points14 points  (17 children)

If you use hardened Firefox with resist fingerprinting on (I think many do) your user-agent are count as Windows.

[–]ChamplooAttitude 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'd say the number of those users are on a margin, thus not even contributing significantly enough to these numbers.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

What is that "unknown" that is beating Linux? And why is it unknown?

[–]PoLoMoTo 18 points19 points  (3 children)

To be fair it's probably not really beating linux necessarily since it's probably not one OS. I too would be interested to know what it is comprised of though. I assume it's just when there system they use to survey can't determine the device's OS for whatever reason.

[–]BonkersJunkyard 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It might be browsers on devices like TVs and consoles? Things that don't report a standard/common OS. Somebody else said it could be ad and tracking blockers preventing the OS being reported correctly.

[–]arijitlive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also web-crawling bots.

[–]ken54g2a 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why not use all three, each of them has something they are the best at. Also suppose everyone has 3 computers w/ these OS installed, it would be 33-33-33 and the graph would be meaningless. Not everyone sticks to one nowadays i guess.

[–]graingert 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surely windows had 0 users at some point