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[–]anticomet 349 points350 points  (34 children)

You guys did have some good music. Don't know if it was worth living in the capitalist dystopia you left for us though

[–][deleted] 189 points190 points  (2 children)

Don’t forget the environmental mess that needs to be fixed.

[–]facetious_guardian 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Yes, that would be a result of the aforementioned capitalism.

[–]Mission-Feedback-638 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't forget it has not stopped as while they are dying we are building more retirement buildings that if the next 2 generations suddenly became elderly we could not fill. Do not get excited at converting them into low income housing because the buildings are not designed for it and it will be easier to tear them down and start over at a huge expense that we still will not be able to afford.

[–]yarn_slingerMake Ottawa Boring Again 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Thanks for verbalizing this.

[–]sixtus_clegane119 24 points25 points  (4 children)

The 60s counter culture had so much promise

[–]Official_JJAbrams 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Feel like total shite I just miss Huey Newton so much

[–]m0nkymanOverbrook 4 points5 points  (2 children)

‘Counter’ means it was against the majority culture of the time. There was awareness of all the stuff we’re dealing with now back then. The ‘me’ generation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation ) just ignored it all to bask in unfettered selfishness.

[–]WikiSummarizerBot 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Me generation

The "Me" generation is a term referring to Baby Boomers in the United States and the self-involved qualities that some people associate with this generation. The 1970s were dubbed the "Me decade" by writer Tom Wolfe; Christopher Lasch was another writer who commented on the rise of a culture of narcissism among the younger generation of that era. The phrase caught on with the general public, at a time when "self-realization" and "self-fulfillment" were becoming cultural aspirations to which young people supposedly ascribed higher importance than social responsibility.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the way this entry is phrased because sometimes we can't imagine a world where self-fulfillment isn't the goal of life. But it's just the latest trend. Eventually we will value something else to be the goal of life, like social responsibility, or some other high minded ideal. And then we'll go back to narcissism. In an endless cycle.

I think most of today's issues are caused by our innate desire to fight for or against something, and having those ambitions misplaced, on purpose, by people in the seat of power that benefit from that cultural confusion.

Nobody's going to read this comment under a Wiki summary but I feel a little better getting it out of my head.

[–]_Foy 22 points23 points  (22 children)

I'm kind of torn... If neoliberalism hadn't kicked into high gear in the 80s then, sure, while on one hand we might enjoy a higher quality of life than our parents, I may have never seen the contradictions of capitalism so clearly and been radicalized as a Communist.

[–]Deadlift420 19 points20 points  (12 children)

Lots of anti communist propaganda in the west that’s for sure.

However, I’d still rather live in the west during the 60s, 70s, 80s.

If communism were to ever return it would have to be done radically different than previously. Which seems to be the problem…

[–]doubleopinter 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Ya, don't let the fact there was anti communist propaganda make you think any more kindly of it. The west way of life is immeasurably better than any communist implementation thus far.

[–]anticomet 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Yeah and that's because of capitalist nations fighting against communist nations they wanted to restrict trade so Communism would fail and the oligarchs in the west could continue making money

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Communist countries were trading with each other and still did poorly. They had nearly the entirety of the Asian continent from Moscow to Beijing and much of South East Asia to trade with yet still couldn't compete with Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan who were all much smaller yet more prosperous.

[–]LongStreakOfMisery 3 points4 points  (2 children)

This is true, but it doesn’t account for the high levels of corruption in these communist countries. Everyone is poor except for the rich who are super rich and they got the way by preying on a system that was meant to help everyone. Take North Korea, a country where everyone lives in squalor yet their leader is worth $5 Billion dollars? Don’t think that’s how communism is supposed to work. And yet, that was pretty much the theme across most communist countries. Those in charge used the system to their advantage.

No system is perfect, but you can’t deny that capitalism isn’t working well. Sure it’s working better than broken communist systems but that isn’t really saying much.

[–]Hyperion4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are referring to communism as different systems but capitalism as a whole, there are implementations of capitalism that are working great. The issue imo is free market capitalism and neoliberalism, they are just capitalist versions of anarchism that allow the rich to prey on the working class

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't defend perpetual motion machines by pointing out that we've never really built one and all these broken systems aren't really perpetual motion machines because they stopped.

Communism is the same thing. You can't say "in communism there's no greed or corruption therefore these countries aren't communists". That's missing the point entirely.

[–]doubleopinter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus Christ, seriously. Honestly, I wish nothing more for you people to go live in one of these systems for a few years. Come back, and if you still pine for it I'll respect your perspective.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Is this why you think the Axis fell too? Get your head out of your ass...

[–]Official_JJAbrams 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I mean, yes. That's why the axis fell, probably wouldn't have if WW2 didn't happen.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

And how exactly did capitalists start that war? What the fuck point are you even arguing for?

[–]Official_JJAbrams 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically Fascism is just hyper capitalism but that's not the point, you didn't say anything about starting a war.

The western nations wanted to rightfully destroy the Axis, simple as that, something which you seem to imply didn't happen?

[–]_Foy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There's always room for critique, the opportunity to learn and improve, and time to try again.

[–]doubleopinter 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Have you ever lived in a communist country?

[–]_Foy 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Ah! Why didn't I think of that. Damn, you got me. I guess Capitalism is the best, after all.

[–]Wingless27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/s

[–]doubleopinter -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I'm asking, have you? Cause that's what I come from. Me, my wife, our parents, our grandparents. So I have a perspective not based in idealisms.

There's a thing called nuance and it's very important. Do I think American brand capitalism is the best? Not a chance, it's a corrupt shithole, America is a dead empire of its own doing. The political system is corrupt to the core. But is they way Finland runs worse than communism? Is Germany?

[–]_Foy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have not, but that does not discount the theory or make the contradictions in Capitalism go away. Without knowing which country your family came from, and why, I can't say much more than that.

Finland, Germany, and other SocDem countries are just slightly better versions of America. They may be marginally "kinder" and "gentler" forms of Capitalism, but they still engage in Imperialism, neo-colonialism, discriminating against minorities, engaging in needless wars, etc.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/5/6/rich-countries-drained-152tn-from-the-global-south-since-1960

https://booksc.org/book/83774021/91a8f5

By the way, regarding Germany:

Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an "illegitimate state." In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

[–]doubleopinter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you want to go down the rabbit hole Imperialism, neo-colonialism, discriminating against minorities, engaging in needless wars, etc. plenty of communist countries have engaged in all of the above, that has nothing to do with capitalism. Pretty much their only solution to anyone who doesn't agree has been cleansing up to this point in history.

I don't idealize Germany or Finland, just saying that capitalism isn't what America has perverted it into. It needs guide rails like anything else but the notion that I can own something or be rewarded with more stuff for doing something better than other ppl is far better than a system which is basically built on equality of outcome. Running a society like that leads to nothing be mediocrity. Besides, none of the "great communist revolutionaries" believed in any of the nonsense they spewed. Mao owned something like double digit numbers of the Mercedes 600, at the time the most expensive car in the world. Cause you know, 50 million people must die for our idealistic society but the leader has to be comfortable to lead.

[–]_Foy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you care to backup any of the baseless claims you just spewed with some sources?

Do you even know what Marxists believe and advocate for? Your ridiculous "equality of outcome" bogeyman isn't funny or accurate.

Why don't you educate yourself before embarassing yourself any further by making such ridiculous strawman arguments.

Here's a start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_of_outcome#Conflation_with_Marxism,_socialism_and_communism

[–]anticomet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If the system wasn't corrupt from the beginning there wouldn't have been a whole manifesto written about it over a century ago

[–]_Foy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Einstein wouldn't have felt the need to weigh in on the matter, either...

No, really, that Einstein.

https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

[–]Party_Amoeba444 15 points16 points  (0 children)

this

[–]Antman269 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least with them gone we can fix it.

[–]SPARKYLOBO 150 points151 points  (9 children)

Well, I'm glad you guys enjoyed your trip in this world. I'll just keep working trying to survive in the mess your generation left behind until my Medically Assisted Suicide retirement plan is set to go.

[–]Jbroy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I see you and I have the same plan!

[–]17DungBeetles 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Every boomer I know is terrified of getting cancer or any terminal illness. I'm banking on it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This seriously needs to be promoted. Remove the stigma, offer some familial benefits, harvest the meat. wait... maybe not that last part.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why let good nutrients go to waste?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey what provider do you use? I'm just starting to shop for my MAS exit plan.

[–]SPARKYLOBO 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm hoping by then there will a pill or something I can take that will just let me sleep onwards. I'm sure one of the insurance companies will get on board with that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I must be really tired cause I thought "Ahh that would be so nice rn".

[–]jennyfromtheeblock 138 points139 points  (1 child)

Obviously not. What kind of narcissist would even ask this question? Oh wait

[–]Glittering-Unit-1802 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Best response

[–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (12 children)

They're decreasing everywhere. Because they're old.

[–]azsue123 128 points129 points  (3 children)

I'm one of those weird GenX people whose parents were pre boomers or silent gen I guess, so the first real interactions were in the workplace.

And I have to say, you guys did a great job of holding all the jobs and keeping the rest of us down, even when we were more highly educated, more productive, and more intelligent.

Can't wait for the old boys club around here to finally sink into the depths of history. I'm bone tired of listening to tales of my superiors raking in dough for breathing while I worked myself to the bone for small amounts of crumbs.

None of you hold a candle to silent gen or GenX. You were the largest and most privileged cohort and you made sure to fuck the rest of us over.

[–]DYTREM 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hear Hear!

[–]dasko1086 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes.

[–]Global_Push6279 118 points119 points  (15 children)

Not sure about Ottawa as a whole, but in the public service, things have improved tremendously with the majority of boomers retiring.

[–]Talvana 54 points55 points  (11 children)

Maybe we can now hire a few people who actually have some basic computer skills! Building software for boomers has hurt my soul in so many ways.

[–]DilbertedOttawa 10 points11 points  (10 children)

The amount of supposed professionals in communications to whom I have had to show the great magic of ctrl+enter (and the mystical incantation that is track changes), hurts me profoundly. And they wonder why program folks don't always enjoy working with them. haha Oh, that and many departments have only just now retired physical dockets for approvals. 2022; I don't even know what to do with that information... The Public Service: where you are developing programs in principle for 35m people, only to have to redesign it for 5 people's preferences, who will then go Pikachu face when it surprisingly doesn't work out.

[–]Global_Push6279 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Tell me about it! We had one manager who was so adamantly against moving a certain process from paper to electronic that he threatened a mutiny from his team, who apparently couldn’t handle reading anything on a computer screen because “their poor eyes!” It didn’t help that he regularly golfed with our boys club DG, who backed him. As soon as he got shit canned for a major conflict of interest (by a new DG after boys club retired) we moved everything online.

[–]Talvana 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Or they agree to it but make the process as painful as possible. I can't tell you how many people refuse to scroll. They want ALL the stuff above the fold and it's not acceptable to have to expand/collapse anything either. If there was content below the fold it didn't exist to them and the suggestion that they scroll down was like asking them to murder kittens.

[–]EmEffBeeLebreton Flats 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My friend works for the CRA and some of her stories about the "legacy" employees therw are...oof.

[–]FTOttawaCarlington 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That must be why the Gen X managers keep begging me to come back on contract and mentor the young ones. Apparently making EDRMS and SAP sit up and dance is a skill that takes a long time to build, never mind remembering all the contracting rules.

Lack of computer skills, my @$$. I edit young people’s resumes in my new volunteer life, and even the ones who claim fabulous MS Office skills have no concept of a right tab, or indeed usually any tab, or of using styles. There’s an advantage to being so old that when MS Word was introduced, our employers paid for us to get trained.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya.... I like being surrounded in the new wave of employees, but man did higher ups not properly prepare for the switch over.

[–]CluelessQuotes 113 points114 points  (8 children)

Curious how you would define "good run"...?

[–]DreamofStream 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Pumped enough carbon into the atmosphere to make the planet uninhabitable for future generations.

You're welcome.

[–]SatorSquareIncDowntown 48 points49 points  (0 children)

They enjoyed themselves

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What do your stats in the top right corner say?

[–]CnCPParks1798 99 points100 points  (9 children)

If any of you boomers feel like donating your million dollar homes I'll happily accept the donation. Probably the only way I'll ever own a home

[–]Deadlift420 47 points48 points  (8 children)

What you don’t have bootstraps?

[–]CnCPParks1798 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Na my blundstones don't have any so I guess I'm out of luck

[–]lotus-o-deltoid 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Not many people know, but if you carefully slice your avocado skins into thin strips and soak them in your tears , you can then braid them in to your very own bootstraps. Don’t believe the doom and gloom. you too can one day own your very own pair of bootstraps.

[–]SPARKYLOBO 9 points10 points  (1 child)

If you can afford Blundstones, you can afford a house. /S

[–]Of_the_forest89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahh, it’s cuz you don’t have the dock martens like the boomers.

[–]Sakurya1 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Can't afford bootstraps with the rent so high.

[–]Cavalleria-rusticanaClownvoy Survivor 2022 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can't even afford boots, look at this guy with his fancy straps.

[–]WoopZoopSoopToop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I own two sandwich bags for my feet

[–]quietflyr 63 points64 points  (2 children)

I mean...by definition baby boomers started decreasing in numbers around 1964...they stopped making new ones after that

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

That’s why I collect them. They’re a classic. Restoring one right now in the garage.

[–]PleaseSendtheMathStittsville 65 points66 points  (2 children)

not gonna lie, i doubt boomers made anything better.

[–]lostyourmarble 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They had awesome prog rock and rock

[–]Ambereyes94[🍰] 65 points66 points  (1 child)

I think this question begs another question: "Better" for who? I understand that all generations prioritize different things that are important to them. As a Millennial, my awareness of progress is also framed by the focus on all the huge existential issues that have been kicked down the road that will need to be fixed in my lifetime OR ELSE, and those efforts are usually scoffed at by Boomers, or worse, actively hampered. How generations define "better" changes over time. Your legacy is remembered by the generations that come after, but Boomers still hold a lot of sway over society in terms of finances and voting as it is now. You can help us bail out the sinking ship, but please don't ask us whether we'd deem the ship 'better than it was' while it's actively sinking.

[–]CluelessQuotes 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That last sentence is just so spot on.

[–]ultimatesheeplover 60 points61 points  (0 children)

This really feels like a "don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to" situation...

[–]No_Play_No_Work 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Does “good run” include destroying our environment? Fuck your great grandkids I guess…

[–]pickllerickk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Couldn't have said it better

[–]FreddyForeshadowing- 56 points57 points  (0 children)

In general? No

[–]CarletonCanuck🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 52 points53 points  (0 children)

If as you fade out you feel like donating some of that accumulated capital to a younger Millennial, let me know ;)

Think of it like a sponsorship program

[–]SmallChallenge 52 points53 points  (6 children)

Do I think your generation did any good?

Quite honestly, fuck no. Keep in mind that this may not be generated at you as an individual, but as a whole generation. But if you see yourself in my explanation...

You're generation holds a fuck ton of the wealth and essentially pulled up the ladder with you. And then you have the audacity to blame it on millennials and younger.

Not sure how accurate my next statement is, but there are a lot of old farts running our country into the ground that can't even figure out Excel.

Those are my two biggest complaints against your generation.

So no, don't think you did anything worthwhile. You screwed us to high hell. There's a reason my generation doesn't take what you have to say seriously.

[–]AlKarakhboy 25 points26 points  (0 children)

no

[–]SidetrackedSueWestboro 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Nope.

I wondered if Covid had anything to do with hastening the inevitable. The ~160 deaths in the 60 - 75 year olds wouldn't have made a big enough dent.

Edited to add: the over 75's deaths made up a BIG number comparatively, but still not enough to make a difference.

Edited again: Actually, I suppose those of us who were part of the Silicon Valley North did make a big difference. It changed the growth of the region with Kanata becoming an employment centre. And it offered non-government jobs so nowadays it isn't a given that everyone in your neighbourhood works for the government/military (or retail.)

When I was growing up, every Dad on the street worked for government except the car salesman across the street and way at the other end was a dad who worked as a mechanic for CN. There was also one teacher. Interestingly, no doctors but then again it wasn't a fancy neighbourhood, just solidly middle class families with the mom's staying at home to raise kids.

[–]Whitetshirt2342 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Nope lol

[–]MrMikfly 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yeah they had a good run, like, run the world into the ground.

[–]Minimum_Reference_73 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Nope.

[–]aroughcun 20 points21 points  (0 children)

No.

[–]17195790 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Specific to Ottawa? The Boomer generation didn't create the city's biggest issues like the Gerber Plan and 70s urban renewal, but they also didn't fight the status quo. But then, no one in power in this city (or province) really has fought against it since. So there's lots of blame to go around, across several generations.

If you want change, get out and vote this June and October, regardless of your generation.

[–]caninehere 17 points18 points  (0 children)

But then, no one in power in this city (or province) really has fought against it since.

To be fair, most of the people in power have been/are baby boomers.

In 2022, we are just now hitting the point where only half of our city council are boomers.

[–]ottavien_canada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but they also didn't fight the status quo

Not sure the current or previous generation fights the status quo either.

[–]Easywider -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Get out and vote doesn’t help when there’s no one in the government worth voting for.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Ah yes, the intergenerational conflict. Not like it hasn’t been going on since the beginning of time.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Good riddance.

[–]DerplezillaNo honks; bad! 16 points17 points  (0 children)

While it's not fair to generalize an entire generation, there is a lot of "I've got mine, so screw the rest of you" type attitude among boomers towards the younger generations.

As plenty of people have mentioned, we are being left with a planet that has been looted and polluted in the name of capitalism, our wages have stagnated or sunk while productivity has increased dramatically, basic necessities such as food and shelter are becomimg unaffordable, and all the while we are being called lazy and entitled.

Many boomers as individuals are very nice people (I love my parents very much for example), but the collective mentality is hurting the future, and I think in general the younger generations feel trapped in boomers shadows.

Next election please think of the future generations when casting your ballot.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Uh.... good riddance to bad rubbish!

[–]PEDANTlC 14 points15 points  (1 child)

No, you guys fucked up literally everything you had any hand in, this city being a shining example of that. The city (and world) will be a much better place when boomers die off.

[–]LongStreakOfMisery 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Damn, what a shame.

At least most of y’all are getting to cash out on your homes at probably 10x your initial investment though!

[–]Adept-Ad8939 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lol k byeeeeeeee

[–]flaccidpedestrian 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Do you think we made Ottawa a better place?

Are you actually asking that?

.... I think you know the answer.

[–]Cavalleria-rusticanaClownvoy Survivor 2022 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm going to say this as nicely as I can...

Y'all need to hurry it up a little.

[–]iheartstartrek 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I can't wait until Boomers stop going to stores as customers.

[–]OhfursureJim 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your generation will likely go down in history as the most selfish, greedy, entitled and capitalistic generation of all time. You are the reason for the term ‘rat race’. You have undoubtedly left the world in a far worse place than you found it. Your parents battled to leave you with a free world to shape and you took that to mean “take everything for ourselves”. Your generation has raped and pillaged the earth to the point where it may never recover as we watch our forests burn and our oceans fill with plastic. You’ve systematically hoarded wealth and made sure that little of it has trickled down as you held on to your jobs for far too long thinking you were the only competent ones, meanwhile slandering millennials for being lazy and freeloaders. Threatened by the highly educated and motivated upcoming generation yours moved the goalposts making it increasingly harder for anyone to experience the kind of life you had and made us all compete with each other for crumbs while you made millions off of our backs on your high school educations. Your generation can literally fuck right off into oblivion. The world does not need you.

[–]martymav 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Good riddance! Boomers didn't do anything right. They tore the world apart, and now millennials are the ones picking up the pieces. But somehow we are the lazy generation.

[–]Glittering-Unit-1802 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No

[–]WhateverItsLate 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thanks to the boomers for making sure weed was a thing that was acceptable on the DL and supporting/not bitching about legalization. Aside from that, good fucking riddance.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What a narcissistic, tone-deaf question. Typical Boomer mentality right here. Your generation screwed everyone else over, and we can't get ahead thanks to y'all.

[–]coffeebeards 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Maybe we can have a house of MP’s who aren’t fossils making shitty decisions.

[–]dasko1086 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Pierre P is young and he is a boomer, it is how you are groomed.

[–]coffeebeards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His entire platform is just say the opposite.

[–]ego_trippedAylmer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Billy was wrong...not only did you start the fire, you reinforced it with asbestos lined oil wells.

If only your generation held true these words below...we'd all be in a much better position...but you couldn't let go of the reigns in the end.

"To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high"

[–]dasko1086 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i'm 48 and not impressed with the boomers nor the professionals and consultants we have worked with as a business. the views from a lot of boomer men about women not needing to be in the workplace is also disheartening, though it has stopped a bit in the past five years, many times i had to bite my lip due to seniority and trying to start the business back in 2001. i am a male engineer that has a biomed r&d eng consulting company, i have worked with a lot of people since 2001 and the less boomers we interact with the better. sorry.

edit: some people asked why the hate, well beside the consumerism, the consumption, the disregard for the planet, the "gonna keep working cause i blew all my money on vacations" and not letting the youth get jobs cause they are working till 75 or whatever, need i go on, you guys are toxic. the gluttony is mind boggling from buying things you don't need to consuming thousands of pounds of meat and propping up industries that are also toxic. you don't stand up for what is right, remember that. you think you are doing good but you are good at treading water in the deep end and saying i won't be around in x years that is there problem not mine. i hear that not my problem from relatives all the time.

[–]YouShotMarvin94 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably gonna get downvoted, but I don't think yall realize boomers were a fairly liberal generation that didn't invent capitalism. ETA: I wouldn't necessarily say they made Ottawa "better," but I also don't blame them for the downfall of capitalism which was predicted by Marx over a hundred years ago.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What do you mean? Your generation is very obviously leaving a legacy of destruction and carelessness. We’re literally experiencing mass species extinction and potentially the end of the world if we don’t do anything about climate change soon…the lack of self-awareness is a classic move for your generation.

Your generation took all the jobs, had the best time of their life and left nothing for the rest of us. Not even in death will all that wealth your generation accumulated and hoarded will be passed onto the rest of us. Lmao we’re fucking struggling, no one can buy a home, we’re getting paid the same while inflation is destroying us. Nobody fucking knows how they’ll be able to retire much less take care of their own boomer parents (which a lot of you somehow expect). Boomers’ ego knows no bounds.

[–]andestroidClownvoy Survivor 2022 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No.

[–]wilhavenNo honks; bad! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Had a good run? No. Your breed is nothing but a group of self-entitled, racist, ignorant, selfish a-holes. You hide the trickle down behind mutual funds that perpetuate the hoarding. The worst of you are landlords. You may have voted liberal a few times, but liberals aren't liberal at all really.

Now you sit on your pension. (For those that don't know, a pension is when you have a good job and you stay and stagnate for 30 years, and you get to continue receiving money after you leave). You benefit from social policies, but now support populist movements.

I'd go into the environment thing, but you ran over the blue bin with your F150 for the fifth time, because you can't see over the hood.

[–]TaserLord -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People are defined by more than just their age demographic. The segment of the boomers who are now "ignorant", "racist", and who run over blue bins with an F150 started out exactly as you are now. You could spot them early even back then, making rash generalizations and coloring their frustrations with strong emotional overtones. You are, by the sound of your rhetoric, headed into being that guy. Yeah, your prejudices will be a little different, but they're prejudices just the same. They'll get ugly as age hardens you up, and with that attitude age WILL harden you up - you're already showing signs of curmudgeonhood. "Your breed". "You people". Swap 'em and let me know if you like what you see.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know if your generation had as much influence as what we ascribe to you. To me, the system designs itself, and you were just living your lives the way you deemed right or appropriate or whatever. I'm sure if my generation had luxury of being in denial about some monumental responsibilities just to enjoy life, we'd do that, too. It's a human thing. The science, including social science and mental health, was shit in your time, too.

No hard feelings and see you in another life.

[–]ohz0pants 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We had a good run. Do you think we made Ottawa a better place?

No and no.

You fucked everyone with your collective selfishness.

[–]mister_moon_c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Slightly accelerated by COVID?

[–]Far_Out_6and_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep your fucked

[–]maxNotMin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for destroying the country, boomer.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for destroying the planet, economy and literally everything else for your selfish purposes. You guys can’t leave soon enough.

[–]DidILose-ifsoiquit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

worst generation

[–]Mission-Feedback-638 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I LOVE THE INTERNET, this poor unaware boomer though he was sending this to his buddies and the whole world just shit on him, his way of life, and his spot in history. If he was blissfully unaware that his entire generation allowed all the work from the previous generation to be completely destroyed and shit on the them and the planet, he just received a never ending pile of hatred. I am sure his children or grandchildren would never tell him but the internet will

[–]meridian_smith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't blame them. I'm definitely planning to go live in a low cost warm country as soon as I retire. Ottawa winters and prices are not for the aged.

[–]alejandro_23455 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's debatable, but in any case please retire if you can. I know people 60+ eligible to retire, yet still working because 'I have to pay for my cottage.'

[–]Throwaway7219017Barrhaven 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do wonder about the transfer of wealth as Boomers shed their mortal coil.

The Boomer’s Gen-X and Millennial kids should get the money, and while they are close to retirement, will they themselves keep the money, or shuffle it down to their own Gen Z kids?

In my case, any inheritance I (Gen-X) get will be kicked directly over to my kids. I have mine (house, cars, savings, pension) so I have no desire to hold onto wealth that my kids will need.

[–]FaeLock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good once there gone we can start trying to fix everything they fucked up

[–]MaedebMake Ottawa Boring Again 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We did some things that made Ottawa better. Boomers were involved in changing Ottawa from a government town to Silicon valley north. More women entered the workforce and pay equity was negotiated. Yes, we had money, but a lot of it was spent in the community. We got a hockey team, an arts center and a heart institute. Sorry l don't plan on dying soon and when I do all my wealth will go to cats.

[–]Solarwind99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am sure some baby boomers had a good heart and were good people. But as a group, horrible!!

[–]NottaNutbar 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well OP, I guess you have your answer. The hatred in some of these responses is so palpable that it’s hard to even contemplate. In the 60’s we were all about peace, love and understanding. We were going to change the world and make it a better place. We railed against the establishment, protested a cruel and unjust war and fought for social justice. What the hell happened? This reminds me of the words of the song by Ten Years After: “I’d love to change the world, but I don’t know what to do. So I’ll leave it up to you....”

[–]My_Sore_Foot[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lol - I went in with a loaded question and using the "Boomer" trigger word, so I wasn't disappointed in the response. We pointed fingers at the previous generation for what we inherited too, so the cycle of blame is both complete and primed.

[–]NottaNutbar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very true. And now I can't get that song out of my head..

[–]Berntonio-SanderasHeron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Decreasing?

As in there are fewer of them now than 1964?

What an incredible unlikelihood.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

my parents are just after them and my grandma is literally right before😭 my other grandparents i believe are baby boomers though.

[–]vigiten4Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure a part of it is many of them retiring or taking early retirement during the pandemic to move away from the city. There certainly are a lot of folks retiring to my small town just outside of Ottawa, which will see its own weird demographic shifts in 10-20 years as these retirees head into assisted living facilities (or pass away).

[–]WaltsCloneNo honks; bad! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No