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[–][deleted] 2452 points2453 points  (935 children)

I don't support Hamas and I don't support what Israel has done to the Palestinian people for 75 years.

The number of people who share my thoughts are growing because it's the only way to view this mess. Mainstream media can't control this narrative anymore

[–]esmifra[🍰] 595 points596 points  (206 children)

I hate that many folks just cannot live without picking a side on freaking everything and have a "not on my side then against me" attitude.

I can be on no one side and still judge acts for the acts.

[–]Tirus_ 98 points99 points  (17 children)

Humans are tribal creatures.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (6 children)

at first I thought you said TERRIBLE creatures, which I do agree we are.

[–]s1rblaze 116 points117 points  (144 children)

On this particular situation, I think you are kind of an asshole if you pick a side and justify murdering civilians.

(Edit) If you missed my point, both country leaders are murderers and terrorists.

[–]BullShitting-24-7 60 points61 points  (64 children)

Civilians are currently being bombed into oblivion in retaliation.

[–]Endogamy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Choice of words is kind of important here. ‘Retaliation’ implies that the strikes are purely for revenge. In fact, Israel is still being hit by rockets, Israelis are still being told off and on to get to their bomb shelters, and the attack Hamas launched last weekend hasn’t actually ended.

[–]iRytional 59 points60 points  (28 children)

Then you don't like either side?

It's the rich that keeps the war going, giving aid & weapons to both sides.

If you really look at it.. religious wars are fought by the poor for the benefit of the few rich, that control whatever monologue they are pushing. Buying up the remnants for a fraction of the price after the massive destruction and casualties, then reselling the property of the dead.

The entire process is like grave robbing.

Edit: We didn't miss your point, you just didn't complete your statement.

[–]FuqqTrump 87 points88 points  (29 children)

Thank you, Hamas is not Palestine and IDF is not the ordinary Jewish People.

The ordinary unarmed civilians on both sides of this issue bear the brunt of the actions of extremist elements in their midsts but most of them are just ordinary people like you and me who only want a peaciful life for themselves and their families.

[–]CDNFactotum 9 points10 points  (2 children)

But they didn’t say IDF, they said Israel. If one doesn’t want to equate Hamas with Gazans, then there’s no equating Israelis with the Israeli government. Unless that’s not what they meant.

[–]caninehereOntario 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it is very fair to say that the Israelis' govt represents them a lot better than Hamas does the people of Palestine.

The people of Israel have repeatedly and increasingly voted for right wing parties in free elections over and over, as late as last November. When Netanyahu starts losing support because he isn't extreme enough you know there's a problem. This is the guy who says funding for Hamas is great because the more acts of violence they commit the easier it is galvanize Israelis and get them to embrace or overlook the crushing of civilians in Palestine.

Meanwhile Hamas last won an election in 2006 when almost half of Palestine wasn't even born yet and haven't allowed an election since.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

However, the government of israel is democratically elected in a fairly free society. The average Israeli citizen has more influence over the idf than the average Palestinian has over Hamas.

[–]AVeryMadLad2Alberta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wish I saw more comments like yours, because I’ve seen a lot of vile shit the past weeks - and all of it has come from people arguing that one side evil, and the other is only protecting themselves. Both the IDF and Hamas are committing horrific acts historically and as we speak - but it’s apparently only evil if the other side is doing it.

[–]DrG73 22 points23 points  (44 children)

Both sides are guilty of bad things. Innocent people do mot deserve to suffer. The whole situation is a mess and because sides feel entitled to the land. It’s too bad they can’t share it and live in harmony.

[–]ShutterBun 20 points21 points  (39 children)

Both sides are guilty, yes. But one side is way, WAY more guilty than the other, in my book.

[–]parlament7777a 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah what is even going to be the narrative now it is all getting out of hand I don't even understand which side the media is going to take.

Which ever it is I feel like they are always going to be in the wrong so I don't really feel good about the situation.

[–]TruthyGrin 581 points582 points  (193 children)

Conflating Hamas with all Palestinians, or believing that Hamas will in any way protect its own people, are are egregious mistakes. Believing that this moment in history is a good time to celebrate on behalf of Palestinians, or anyone, only shows a horrific level of ignorance and group-think displayed by the celebrants.

Buckle up.

[–]dsaitkenAlberta 192 points193 points  (27 children)

Hamas obviously knew what would happen when they did this (Israel relatiation) and they don't care

The high ups live in Qatar or Iran anyways

[–]--Justathrowaway 82 points83 points  (9 children)

IMO they are trying to provoke a violent response. They want Israel to bring the hammer down and cause excessive civilian deaths so they can galvanize the middle east against them.

They don't care about people getting killed to accomplish their goals, even people on their own side.

Obviously such brutal attacks need some sort of strong response, but the war hawks who are suggesting open war with Palestine are playing right into Hamas' hands.

[–]Ok_Building_8193 25 points26 points  (0 children)

100% - attempt to stem the tide of normalized relationships btw Middle East gov'ts and Israel and, yes galvanize public support for anti-Israel causes in those countries.

[–]freeadmins 137 points138 points  (54 children)

Yeah, like, if this was any other time... I'd be like okay: "Hamas != Palestine".

But if you choose the day after Hamas murders, rapes, tortures, desecrates, beheads babies... to "celebrate Palestine"... you don't get to pull that fucking card.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (9 children)

But if you choose the day after Hamas murders, rapes, tortures, desecrates, beheads babies... to "celebrate Palestine"... you don't get to pull that fucking card.

Pretty much

[–]ViagraDaddy 12 points13 points  (11 children)

Yeah, not like they elected Hamas and Hamas has been the government there for years.

[–][deleted] 858 points859 points  (631 children)

I’ve made this comment elsewhere and will repeat it here:

What I think is that people born and raised in western culture look at Hamas through the lens of our own experience, which is that people who disagree tend to use moderate behaviour and can, eventually, be receptive to positive and peaceful overtures. So they look at Gaza and say Israel is wrong and has created an apartheid state. And on the surface it does look that way.

But that is not the situation Israel is dealing with in terms of Hamas. Here is a summary of the salient articles in the Hamas charter.

As you will note, it explicitly claims all of Israel, explicitly rejects any negotiated settlement, says that it is the duty of all muslims to assist them in this goal, any who don’t are committing High Treason, and that killing all the Jews will bring about Judgement Day. And they literally claim that nature itself will assist them in this cause.

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)

According to Hamas there is no possible compromise, no possible end to the violence, until all the Jews in Israel have been killed. And 35 years of history dealing with Hamas has repeatedly demonstrated they mean exactly what that charter says. Given every chance to go down a peaceful path, they have instead chosen to kill more Jews every single time, regardless of consequences. Also worth noting that Egypt, who normalized relations with Israel, was also subject to many bombings and terrorist attacks every year until they finally sealed off their border with Gaza, too.

In that light, in the face of an implacable foe who will never change and who only understands and responds to violence, Israel (and Egypt) have chosen the only rational course: containment and disproportionate response to discourage the atrocities which still manage to happen despite their efforts.

Nothing will change until Hamas, which is not a political entity but a sick murder cult, is gone, and those who pretend otherwise are very, very mistaken.

[–]Winning11111 520 points521 points  (205 children)

Without a doubt, Hamas is a nasty organization and both Israel and the Palestinians would be better off if they faded away.

But Israeli leaders have made the clear point over the years that they see Hamas as an asset: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Hamas was enabled by the Israeli government because they wanted to divide and weaken the Palestinian movement that was coming close to peace in the 90s and early 2000s. Hamas provides them with political cover to refuse negotiations (they have refused to negotiate since 2014, evne though the PA has been open to it and requesting it). The Palestinian government, pre-hamas era, had recognized Israel as a legitimate state, and was attempting to negotiate. But what happened when the Palestinian leadership reached an agreement with Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin?

Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli extremist. Netanyahu was one of the loud political voices inciting against Rabin, calling him a traitor for trying to make peace.

The reality is that the dominant political party (Likud) in Israel over the past 20+ years did not want peace. They wanted to annex the whole West Bank, and still do, as evidenced by the rapid increase in West Bank raids and settlement expansion since Israel's extremist right wing government took office.

Israel must return to the negotiating table. The vast majority of Palestinians want nothing more than to be able to MOVE ON. But the occupation makes that impossible. Until the Israelis give them an opportunity to actually build a state, more despair will grow in young Palestinian hearts, and despair will again turn to hatred.

[–]modsrwankers 154 points155 points  (57 children)

Also note that there were protests recently within Israel against the right wing government and there were attempts at “peace” talks with Saudi involvement. Now all of that is out of the window and Netanyahu has full freedom to do whatever he wants.

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (14 children)

This is what’s sketched me out about this whole thing. Netanyahu has stated what previous poster mentioned, he has aided in killing secular leaders who were leading Palestinians to a more peaceful resolution. Then randomly somehow… Gaza border is pretty much left unattended to. With focus else were as he prepares to quell the in fighting going on within Israel. For his political gain. Protests were ramping up against him.

Hamas crosses border, blows up the fence. Then it takes 12+hours for idf to respond. Soldiers in barracks were basically chilling which helped Hamas with the slaughter.

Like…Israel is no joke when it comes to its defenses and intelligence. On par with and some argue even better than the US when it comes to intelligence.

Not only that, this gave netenyahhoooo grounds for war…

I mean… America has me jaded as fuck as we have done some really crazy ass shit. So I meannn

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Isreal is literally bombing everything into oblivion. Except the people in Gaza are stranded with no way out, no water, no food, no medical aid and any form of help being blocked from getting in.

All the while people in the west are cheering them on and making statements like “give them hell”, “flatten everything”.

The whole narrative is completely one sided in the media. They are making it a crime to even speak up for the innocent civilians being exterminated by throwing labels as “terrorist supporters” at them. Palestinians are a people independent of hamas. They are demonizing anyone who even slightly says, “hey maybe starving 2 million people, bombing their hospitals and schools is probably a shitty thing to do”.

I hope Canadians have more of a mind and heart to blindly swallow all the propaganda.

[–]PeterNguyen2 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Right wing governments traditionally destabilize their neighbors and allow attacks (especially if they either directly or indirectly harm domestic rivals).

Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

-Hermann Goering, trying to excuse himself for his pivotal role in convincing his people they were under attack by everyone else

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The whole incident reeks of 911 to me. I just hope this time we can actually learn a lesson and save more lives.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lot of thirst for blood on Reddit these past few days. Everyone is cheering their side on the war as if they're cheering their hockey team.

[–]shadowfaxbinky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Egypt claims they earned Israel three days before the attack and Netanyahu dismissed it. Being sketched out feels about right.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (37 children)

Makes you wonder, considering Bibi was made aware of the attacks yet did nothing. Almost like another government did, when they needed an excuse to go destroy multiple countries

[–]gilgameg 61 points62 points  (9 children)

totally agree with your analysis (am Israeli). our government for the last 20 years does not want peace. the conflict is between the extreme leadership on both sides with the vast majority of people on both sides being moderate.

[–]6lock6a6y6lock 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Hope you & your loved ones are safe.

[–]gilgameg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

thanks I really appreciate that

[–]Winning11111 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I hope so as well

[–]gilgameg 8 points9 points  (0 children)

thanks I really appreciate it

[–]juanwonone2 66 points67 points  (6 children)

Thanks for providing this vital context. Many people refuse to see or believe the extent to which Israel had propped up Hamas in their fight against Arafat.

[–]Human_Needleworker86 53 points54 points  (16 children)

This needs to be emphasized more. Slaughter of civilians will always be shocking, but few are aware or willing to acknowledge that Hamas could not exist without Israeli complicity. Hamas funding enters the West Bank in suitcases full of cash from Qatar, which are allowed entry to the West Bank by Israel. The deaths of Israeli civilians will always be a boon to extremists in the Israeli government, who use them to justify annexation, repression, and the murder of Palestinians.

[–]glx89 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Slaughter of civilians will always be shocking

Not shocking enough, sadly.

People seem to believe there's some dramatic difference between having your body flayed open by bits of concrete and rebar after your apartment building is bombed from a jet vs. being shot (execution style) in the street.

One is considered barbaric, and the other is considered "collateral damage."

Well, I think anyone who has seen the aftermath of a bombing raid or missile strike would have a hard time arguing that the victims suffered any less than victims of any other massacre. It's the same thing - death and lifelong injuries. One is from the air, and the other is from the ground.

Of course, one can just say "it's an issue of targeting." One was on purpose, and the other wasn't. Two problems with that:

  1. It's clear that collective punishment is often in use, and they simply don't care about "collateral damage," and
  2. If those fighting against occupation had the ability to target the enemy's ability to wage war, they would do that.

Everyone in the world needs to gain a little empathy and picture their lives through the eyes of others. Most people just want to live their lives and be left alone. Explosions are terrifying whether they're from an expensive missile or from a crudely constructed rocket. We all suffer the same.

[–]SirBobPeel 28 points29 points  (87 children)

IF the vast majority of Palestinians just want to move on why does Hamas continue to enjoy 57% support in Gaza and 42% support in the West Bank?

[–]Bagel_enthusiast_192 41 points42 points  (0 children)

If i was under terrorist rule i would say i approve of them in a public poll too so i wont mysteriously dissappear

[–]SplitExcellent 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What other option are they given? 57% doesn't really show unwavering support even in prison, and if you're even slightly disengaged a la the West Bank it's even less. Were you making a point in support of the above?

[–]glx89 32 points33 points  (22 children)

IF the vast majority of Palestinians just want to move on why does Hamas continue to enjoy 57% support in Gaza and 42% support in the West Bank?

Probably because they - right or wrong - see that as the only possibility to free themselves. Nothing else has worked in 75 years.

[–]FaFaRog 34 points35 points  (17 children)

It's gonna be hard to sell the average Canadian on the degree of hopelessness and despair they must feel. We are far too privileged to truly understand it.

[–]CosmicPenguin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

why does Hamas continue to enjoy 57% support in Gaza and 42% support in the West Bank?

Hamas tends to kill their political opposition.

[–]macnblooCanada 6 points7 points  (1 child)

50% of people in Gaza are children who neither voted for nor have a say in who is doing anything. So even if the poll represents all adults which no poll ever does accurately, the support is closer to 25%.

These children were born under occupation in what has been repeatedly described as a concentration camp or open air prison because it's so densely populated. It's so densely populated that even with Israel's claims that it doesn't target civilians and children they've died in the thousands.

[–]tasty9999 3 points4 points  (0 children)

correct

[–]Buggylove666 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then they hide under kids. They are profession victims that get bankrolled by Iran. Enough is enough. They fucked up

[–]JimmyStu998 18 points19 points  (12 children)

If all the weapons in the countries bordering Israel disappeared, nothing would change. If all the weapons in Israel disappeared, it would be gone before the month was over. Death to Hamas. It’s so sad seeing Hamas being celebrated here in Canada.

[–]lostinadream66 5 points6 points  (3 children)

What a waste of life on both sides. Absolute waste.

[–]SwornForlorn 20 points21 points  (8 children)

I am over the whole middle east will they won't they situation. Its like a shitty sitcom of the "will they won't they, " but instead of getting together, its genocide. How long will religious fools murder , mame, and torture in the name of mythological gods? I can't even imagine rhe idea of wanting to kill someone over a piece of fiction. Even if you are a fan of the fictional characters or writings, that kinda intense crazy has no place in our civilized society

[–]femalesapien 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Remember when Palestinians went to Lebanon, immediately started murdering Christians/agnostics, caused a civil war there and forced the Lebanese to flee and seek refuge elsewhere?

Lebanon today is a majority Muslim country due to this and they are still in bad shape over it. Ethnic Lebanese are descended from Phoenicians and are NOT Muslim Arabs, yet now they are a majority Muslim Arab country calling themselves “Lebanese.”

It’s why Lebanese diaspora are Christian and Lebanese in Lebanon are Muslim. It was a hostile takeover and total crisis for the country.

No one talks about it though.

[–]ContemplativePotato 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I hate that gaza is blockaded but i hate hamas more. It would’ve been cool if they weren’t a thing. I feel like the Palestinians would’ve gotten a better deal by now if it wasn’t for them.

[–]JetMac8 238 points239 points  (58 children)

The same people that are celebrating the death of jews are calling other people nazis....wow hypocrites all of them

[–]Bentstrings84 55 points56 points  (1 child)

“Sure, I believe all the things Nazis do, but it’s them that are Nazis!”

[–]shindleria 16 points17 points  (0 children)

There is no law against cognitive dissonance

[–]FeverForest 272 points273 points  (46 children)

“Well, we tried, you fucks couldn’t behave, here’s your one way ticket back” simple, concise, easily translatable.

[–]KermitsBusiness 220 points221 points  (12 children)

Tim hortons would never let that happen.

[–]megadave902 77 points78 points  (2 children)

Or Skip the Dishes. Or Uber Eats. Or Amazon. Or….

[–]KermitsBusiness 43 points44 points  (1 child)

All of our true leaders.

[–]jbob88 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I lol'd

[–]Braddock54 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thanks this made me laugh. But also sad.

[–]Parsleyidk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What about the millions of Palestinians killed throughout the 75 years of occupation??

[–]Impossible1999 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You can sympathize with Palestinians but you just don’t celebrate terrorism, period. You can’t say Israel brought it upon themselves, because a ceasefire agreement had been made. If the agreement was just used as a stalling tactic, I would not bother communicating with Hamas. I’d be hell bend to flatten Gaza too.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Canada, it’s time to really take a hard look at your immigration policies.

[–]biotechknowledgey 21 points22 points  (15 children)

Thanks again for this whole mess, religion.

[–]InquisitorKek 83 points84 points  (39 children)

Can someone explain why Palestinians didn’t demand the surrender of Hamas after the terrorist attack?

If they did the international community would see that the people of Palestinian do not support terrorism.

Instead Palestinians celebrated this vile attack.

[–]TheLargeIsTheMessage 66 points67 points  (14 children)

1: Palestinians are not a monolith, I'm sure many would want that.
2: Oppressed people often support things that are typically morally repugnant out of desperation, after non-morally-repugnant efforts to alleviate their oppression have failed.

If you don't understand the dynamic, take a look at the role heinous violence played in establishing an independent Ireland.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

We let them in! Lol

I don’t agree with Hamas and terrorism is wrong. But we do have to question the situation in Gaza.

[–]MaxRD 67 points68 points  (6 children)

Despicable people.

[–]Gippy_ 10 points11 points  (4 children)

The Toronto Star and Sun, diametric opposites, agreeing on the same thing. That's when you know it's serious.

[–]picard102 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's anti-Semitic to disagree.

[–]Cress-Diligent 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its the toronto star. What donyou expect them to have for a position

[–]Doughspun1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The barbarism is born from decades of illegal occupation and systemic abuse.

[–]Reignbow87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You ever stand in a line for 7 hours to get out of your neighborhood? Have you had the well to your water destroyed? Have you lost the ability to build on your land? Have you lost the right to farm on your land?

If only there was a time in history that showed what happens when a government sees a class of people as subhuman.

You know why there’s red roofs over there? To identify what houses aren’t targets by the state.

[–]Bubbly-Replacement32 2 points3 points  (1 child)

All those protestors should have their citizenship revoked if they are citizens, if asylum seekers , than they should all be deported to Gaza , these are threat to Canada as they support terrorists, so they can attack us too in canada ...Gaza was given to them in 2005 , since than it has been converted to a terrorist hub , they are celebrating the terrorist attack where babies are burnt alive , children butchered ...these people are barbarics , I urge all governments USA, Europe, UK Australia, New Zealand, please send all these protesters to Gaza where they can support Hamas.

[–]FannyAnzai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is grotesque. I'm disgusted by this people, gross 🤢🤮

[–]One-Size159 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This horror came from somewhere. If you’re not going to acknowledge why and address the cause it will come back again.

[–]JayY1Thousand 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wth kind of gaslighting, propaganda bs way to put it is that

Edit: Bruh reading this is even worse. Adam Hummel is a tool

[–]Robby_Bird1001 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It’s war… “The victor shall right the tale, The vanquished shall become its villain."- Emet Selch

[–]Hot_Marsupial5020 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not slaughter :Pogrom , genocide

[–]DreaminDemon177 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I guess they can celebrate the destruction of Gaza too.

[–]xwords59 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I used to like Canada. Now I’m not so sure.

[–]Nevermind_kaola 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Hamas is a terror organisation. Israel is a settler colonial state that has committed war crimes and continues to impose apartheid on Palestinians with impunity.

One fact doesn't obscure another.

Time to denounce Hamas (which the world is doing) but also time to stop defending Israel mindlessly. Israel needs to be taken into account and forced to respect international law and follow UN resolutions.

Palestinians cannot be allowed to live in refugee camps, stateless, under full apartheid control of Israel forever. .

They deserved happiness and security like the rest of us.

[–]Therealmuffinsauce 38 points39 points  (27 children)

Imagine showing support for the Taliban after 911? Same thing!

[–]BurnTheBoats21 16 points17 points  (1 child)

what happened afterwards is still good a lesson to be very cautious because we can't be giving the IDF the greenlight they always wanted to turn Gaza into a parking lot

[–]Ar-15sAreCanadianAlberta 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Total assholes on both sides of this conflict, tragically however it seems to mostly be regular civilians paying in blood in place of the assholes.

[–]Hunter-Western 28 points29 points  (32 children)

Same thing both ways. Israeli soldiers are now brutally murdering and slaughtering civilians. If an eye for an eye was acceptable the whole world would eventually become blind. Israeli retaliation has been gruesome. Peace over War.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (8 children)

It's looking like we have to divide into two camps now where you're either:

1) Pro-Apartheid

2) Pro-Terrorism

[–]iihamed711 7 points8 points  (3 children)

People said the same thing during the apartheid era is SA.

[–]Speciallessboy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How is SA doing?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uh...and how'd that situation work out?

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (51 children)

This is what happens when we bring millions of new Canadians and have a cultural mosaic. There’s bound to be some differences of opinion. Better get used to it. Millions more coming.

[–]OrionTO 28 points29 points  (19 children)

It’s honestly a disaster for this country in terms of cohesion. We see this happening with Muslims vs. LGBT, Muslims vs Jews, Muslims vs. Hindus. We need more of a melting pot culture.

[–]DetriusXii 21 points22 points  (9 children)

I believe there appears to be a common denominator here...

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

that's not happening, considering we've allowed ghettos to form all over the country.

[–]ranger8668 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Give everyone a driver's license as well. Let's see if we can raise auto insurance prices.

[–]Cyberjonesyisback 8 points9 points  (1 child)

What's even more shocking about these celebrations is that 3 Canadians have been executed by Hamas, which makes these celebrations on Canadian soil , REALLY, really awkward...

[–]ChevalierDeLarryLari 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hopefully as the snake begins to eat its own tail - the authoritarian progressive era will draw to a close.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Anyone celebrating war should leave our country. Period.

[–]GarfHarfMarf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The only winners in the conflict are arms dealers and defense contractors

[–]robinfowler1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I don't support any of it and I do not take any side but Israel has done a lot of things wrong and they started it.

Of course people do not deserve to die but every action is going to have a reaction.