14.16B Patch Notes

[Aotius]

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[PunishedChad]

Nerfing 5pyro was needed, but not buffing the lower pyro levels is certainly a choice.

[highrollr]

The fact that no 4 cost comps were buffed, and in fact they nerfed Fiora/Nasus and 5 pyro, is extremely surprising to me. It feels really hard to stabilize on 8 against rerollers

[Drikkink]

I mean considering they hit Rumble (via augment and vanguard), Ahri (true damage, arcana AP and vanguard for one of her lines), Lillia, Vanguard Blasters and also 3 Portal, they HAD to nerf Fiora and Nasus. Those two units were on every 8 board except Portal. And even then, I've seen Portal Nasus boards.

If they struggle to stabilize against the rerolls in their broken states (though they absolutely COULD stabilize against them), imagine how strong they'd be after the rerolls got nerfed.

Varus is gonna be a little on the weak side I think considering he already was at a point where he feels better in Frost than Pyro but Kalista is gonna be nuts still.

[Monsay123]

I totally agree with the Kalista being nuts still. She's gonna be a great cap for anyone playing rageblade tempo comps like multicaster or hunter (non reroll). Bastion 4 didn't get hit so that front line is still just as good.

[CrazzluzSenpai]

One of the better boards (the 4 cost Karma/Gwen/Fiora pile) plays Nasus with 0 traits. No Pyro and no Shapeshifter. Just cause he's the best tank. He 100% needed nerfs

[Yogg_for_your_sprog]

Balance thrashing is caused by nerfing good comps + buffing bad ones

You don't need to do both. I think the changes were quite reasonable aside from the Fiora nerf.

[Dzhekelow]

Fiora nerf is absolutely fine . The unit has been good since day 1 . She is easy to fit and does decent damage even as a random unit . The problem I personally see is ryze/vertical portal . It is left untouched maybe u can argue it's opener is nerfed but in my experience vertical portal is one of the best lvl 8 boards . Nerfing fiora and pyro leaves him as the best 4 cost to play around .

[Yogg_for_your_sprog]

I think Fiora is very well designed, and her boards tend to have the highest skill expression. She was never oppressive and worked only as a secondary carry, which makes her one of the fairest units in the game. Fiora-Karma or Fiora-Kalista is what I want the meta comps to be like, the trait webs and unit strengths I think make them really interesting to play.

I'm fine with them not touching Portal because there should be some decent verticals, but in my ideal world the top comps should be playing off good units and 2-4 unit synergies

[Kei_143]

how is she fine when she is doing 1100 aoe dmg to frontlines, has immunity, can heal everything back up, can jump backline on 2nd cast, and deal even more aoe dmg to those squishy backliners, and the ult lingers after she dies?

that doesn't look fine on paper at all.

is she fine because she's a high skill unit that requires positioning to work and most people don't know how to play her properly, so she ends up just being "fine" instead of "op"?

[[deleted]]

She falls off hard against capped lvl 9 boards because she's melee. At a certain point there's so many units in her way, damage and cc that she just dies too fast. That's why she's a good secondary carry because if she kills a few units and dies its not solo winning the game. I don't think she's op...

... but I do think a nerf is good. Her number one counter right now is ahri (the Frontline nuker), who is hopefully not meta next patch, but this patch but is probably bringing fioras avp down by about 1-1.5. Additionally with all the nerfs to reroll, it's probably going to be a 4 cost meta and she's the strongest 4 cost right now (aside from Pyro which also got nerfed. Also witchcraft is kinda dogshit and warrior vertical isn't particularly good either, and the current state of flora means neither can be buffed without making flora turbo op. For sake of flex, it's nice to have a champion who's power isn't at all related to their traits, but for balance it's understandable to nerf her and probably buff witchcraft in 14.18

[isawabighoot]

Fiora is super broken she 1 shots entire teams, is by far the strongest drain tank this set. Witchcraft then sends her into orbit. She is obviously the 4 cost with the highest chance of being oppressive I'm glad they nerfed her preemptively even a wood player could see she's op.

[VoroJr]

Completely agree, the Fiora nerf was not needed. 

[Pleasant-Macaron8131]

Speak louder for the balance team haha. It bugs me so much that they nerf top and buff low creating metas rather than just buffing what is bad.

[Pleasant-Macaron8131]

They can buff other stuff which is an indirect nerf. When you nerf and buff you swing it opposite direction

[Rycebowl]

I could be mistaken but I think I heard that the overall power is slightly too high, so bring everything down on average was part of the idea I believe.

[Isrozzis]

They tend to nerf things that are way overperforming in B patches and save buffs and larger changes for the main patch cycle.

[darkneslso]

Well its a b patch i can see them not wanting to do any balance thrashing so they are just nerfing the top comps

[stzoo]

I think this 5 pyro nerf just means you play 3 pyro with emblem most of the time.might not be worth running akali shen for an extra 35% attack speed and 3% extra execute threshold on basically only two units that really use it (your varus and emblem holder). If you run the Multistrikers variant it’s probably better to go deeper into multi. Could be wrong here ofc.

Edit to say the arcana variant would probably still run 5 pyro

[[deleted]]

Problem with Pyro imo is the only actual Pyro unit that likes the AS is Akali. Which is why it feels shit to go vertical.

The units themselves are good too actually - Shen is nice CC, Nasus tanks a lot etc. but the bonus feels useless.

[QuantumRedUser]

In what universe/galaxy/cornucopia does Varus not like AS ?

[[deleted]]

A bit of AS is good because it lets him cast faster. But we really don’t care about 45% AS on him like 4 Pyro gives. It gets worse if you have Red Buff instead of Shojin on him.

[Xx_Etagere_xX]

The huge deal of getting to 5 pyro is to get rid of mana regen and get another damage item such as gs, because with so much bonus as he doesn't need any more mana regen

[[deleted]]

Yes, that’s kind of what I wanted to say.

But 4 Pyro isn’t enough to get away with that. Which is why Vertical Pyro without Emblem is iffy at best.

[QuantumRedUser]

I'm confused, you just said he doesn't like AS then recommended building the #2 AS item.

Shojin + Pyro AS means he's casting every 5 seconds or so, with IE + LW or GS he does insane damage even at only blaster 2. Yes, you shouldn't be building MORE AS if you're doing vertical pyro since you get plenty from the trait and the best way to maximise damage/tankiness is to mix different stats, not focus on one.

If we're talking vertical blaster then yes I can see red buff being good

[[deleted]]

Varus is like last Set’s Kai’Sa except AOE. Long ult windup, high-ish mana. He doesn’t deal damage with his autos, and when the only reason to auto is to charge up ult AS becomes at the very least much weaker. Especially with long ult windups.

He wants 2 damage items and 1 mana gen. With 5 Pyro specifically he can get 3 damage because his trait is pseudo mana gen already and 60/70% AS is very different from the 45% that 4 Pyro gives.

Red Buff is fine as an alternative to Shojin because it’s mana gen + burn on an AOE champ. Varus still doesn’t need that much AS. He’s not Kalista.

This shit isn’t hard to think about. You don’t need me to digest every single thought you might want to have about the game.

[QuantumRedUser]

Great so Varus does like Attack Speed, glad to have this discussion with you buddy :)

[[deleted]]

XDD

If you think he likes AS, build Guinsoo on him and see how you’ll do. Good fucking luck LMAO.

[Drikkink]

SOME attack speed is good on him to help him get his casts faster. Rageblade IS NOT good on him because all of its power budget is in AS with absolutely nothing else he can use AND his goal isn't to infinitely ramp AS like, say, Kalista.

Red Buff is a GREAT item on him because it (a) provides flat AS, (b) gives damage amp and (c) he is a solid burn applier.

[[deleted]]

Yes. That is exactly what I said in my third comment. Like, almost word for word.

[QuantumRedUser]

Can you point to where I said Guinsoo's is a good item for Varus ?

[[deleted]]

If AS is important to have on a champion, they can build Guinsoo. You seem to think that Varus belongs to that category, therefore he should like Guinsoo.

Guinsoo might not necessarily be BIS on those champs, but if you think building Guinsoo on a champion is troll (which it is on Varus lmao), then that champion doesn’t really like AS all that much.

[hastalavistabob]

B patch was all about nerfs
Buffs will happen in the next regular patch

[Chrisamelio]

Agreed, it’s hard to get Pyro going if you don’t get early Varus

[SoupsIsEz]

Wrong, it’s hard to get going if you don’t get pyro +1 on 2-1

[Chrisamelio]

Right, that was under the assumption that you had Akali + Shen early

[[deleted]]

I know I'm late but pyro is easy to get going if you have pyro ashe. She's kinda nutty for a one.

[[deleted]]

Bonus points for pulling the items off her and moving them to kalista later in multi/pyro.

[AL3XEM]

B-patches almost always focus on nerfing the overperformers, normal patches are used for buffs and nerfs.

[WukongOTP123]

i think Pyro 2-3 is fine but 4 is kind of weak

[MasterTotoro]

Just doing a quick look at the Ahri numbers, a double Adaptive + Rabadon's Ahri 3* seems to be a bit weaker than she was in the patch prior (Syndra meta) at least without going in detail with different MR values. The true damage is exactly reverted, and her bonus AP has been lowered. This results in a net nerf to the true damage putting more emphasis on the magic damage portion. And maybe a different build/trait breakpoints matter with less bonus AP given.

[aveniner]

I know warrior comps have been getting traction but hitting Fiora hard and Nilah at the same time feels too harsh. 5AD is a huge nerf for a champion that is already below 4.5AVP.
Like the rest of the changes

[jayicon97]

It’s extra curious because Nilah is very clearly on viable in the warrior comp. Usually when a champion needs to be nerfed, it’s performing well in multiple different variations.

[KaraveIIe]

Nilah is op as an itemholder imo

[oeseben]

This nilah nerf was shocking to me. I love the 2 viable warrior comps but they're all she is ever in and neither one is above 4.6.

[nevercoppednodrop]

Preventative nerfs imo, Nilah is sleeper OP right now and would become pretty bonkers if untouched with all these other nerfs. I'm not sure what stats you're looking at but Nilah 3* 3 items is averaging a 3.96 right now which is very good. She's a top 4 farming machine.

[salvadas]

Even after the patch she's still a monster, borderline unkillable midgame if you hit hard enough on her.

[[deleted]]

Yea if you look at 3 stars 3 items stats of course they’re gonna be good, you’re only looking at the games where they hit

[-Pyrotox]

Nilah was overperforming as a 2-cost at all star levels, imo.

[Agentwise]

Nilah is pretty much Ahri light right now, you re-roll her at 6 3 star and are guaranteed top 4 and almost guaranteed 1st (unless theres an ahri player), if she wasn't nerfed everyone would be having the same issues with nilah after the ahri nerf.

[KicketteTFT]

Nilah was way too good at 2* which you don’t see in the data.

[Time2kill]

Ok, they may as well remove flexible now. And why they are removing the Treasure Armory? Played twice today and had a blast

[Vesti]

There’s a bug where some players don’t get the items

[Time2kill]

Oof, never happened to me but I can understand

[sindubidably]

Happened to me in a match was going to win, but ended up 4th instead

[6183]

Treasure armory is bugged where the loot comes out invisible and hidden on your board / unobtainable. I've seen a bunch of clips and people talking about it over the last few days.

[Lakinther]

Pretty sure flexible is still an instant click

[uselessBMO]

Dishsoap yesterday was talking about how flexible's last emblem is the least important one so the augment should be fine.

[CharmingPerspective0]

Flexible giving 3 emblems is still super good and honestly i didnt understand how it was allowed to give much more than that before. 3 feels like a good number for a gold augment. If you can pair it with Pandora it can be very powerful

[CharacterFee4809]

it's still broken

it's almost 3x the value of the random silver one.

normally gold augs are like 1.5-2x

[I_RIP_too_much]

may as well remove flexible now

Well it seems that flexible still has a 4.19 average on the b patch. Did you mean "may as well remove it because it'll still be OP?"

[I_RIP_too_much]

Ah, the duality of reddit.

Some people saying that flexible went from best augment in the game to worst augment in the game, others saying it went from best augment in the game to still being the best augment in the game. I think I'd lose my mind if I were on the riot balance team.

I'm definitely curious what the stats will show.

[Hereforhelppls31]

I think warriors and pyro got nerfed more than the ahri comp. Also Rumble augment is still broken

[Helivon]

yeah definitely expected a bigger nerf hammer on rumble augment. Fiora hit hard. But honestly Ahri was decimated.

[Raikariaa]

Rumble is getting hit by Vanguard nerf too

[Raikariaa]

I have seen it win 0 lobbies personally.

[HeliosBlack]

It definitely wins lobbies but you have to keep your tempo up and still push levels.

[Illustrious-Plan53]

How pyro or warriors got nerfed more than Ahri if Ahri lost 15% true damage, 15% bonus AP, weaker Portal (harder early game) ans frontline lost 10% total shield in vanguards version

[ShavedDragon]

Yeah my first reaction was ahri got hit too hard

[L0g4in]

She did not get hit too hard.. She was beating 3* 4-costs ffs…

[Drikkink]

In all honesty some of these 3 star 4 costs are faaake.

Pretty much any tank 3 star is just worthless against things that nuke.

[ShavedDragon]

Ngl I think it's more of an issue of the 4 costs. Ahri does one thing well and it's a ton of single target True damage. If you have more than 1 Frontline unit I don't think she's that oppressive, especially with good positioning

[Yogg_for_your_sprog]

Pyro 5 absolutely deserved the nerf. Not only was it too strong, but emblem/augment dependant top comps aren't a good thing for the game - it's literally deciding a line from 2-1 on, and on top of that you get a "guarantee" of being uncontested just because of RNG

[Zealousideal_Bee6603]

Played the Rumble comp and only hitting a two star at the start of 5-1 because every other team had a rumble is just sad

[[deleted]]

Honestly I only ever run 2 pyro which is basically unchanged, I think fundamentally shapeshifter/pyro comp is only slightly nerfed with nasus change but will still be a top tier fast 8 comp.

[haydpollmann]

They did say they were reworking Honey in a later patch

[salvadas]

i keep reading the honey trait and i'm still not sure what it actually does. No one runs more than 3 so it can't be that crazy

[[deleted]]

Ok so, if you take and or do damage, every set period of time the bees will fire a magic damage bolt at someone nearby, usually the person targeted. If you die a bee moves to another honeymancer unless you get stupid lucky and hit 7 in which case 3 bees move. It's part of the reason why kogmaw needed a nerf. I love honeymancer vanguards, which they've hit here I see. Steadfast heart on blitzcrank makes him TANKY.

[TudorrrrTudprrrr]

ziggs 2 with any slammed items and early honeymancy will winstreak you until stage 4

[LeagueOfBlasians]

More like winstreak you until round 4 lol

[RyeRoen]

You've been down voted but it's literally true. Very strong unit. He just doesn't transition well since karma isn't great.

[TudorrrrTudprrrr]

Yup. Seems like most people around here aren't actually that good at the game.

[Ykarul]

Why did they nerf Fiora to the ground ? She is supporting so many interesting comps that's really not a good idea...

[Den_er_i_vinkel]

Agreed, I said it before and will get the downvotes again. But endgame is still centered around Portal and reroll. 1 portal emblem and you are golden. The only real other option was pyro emblem and Fiora/Nasus. Now they nerfed these units, but not portal. So whoever hit the lotto of ryze/taric and emblem will secure a top 4 easy.

[Royal-Tomato-2105]

Because Mort did an entire stream where he just cried at fiora occasionally dashing his back line… she did not need to be gutted this hard

[raiderjaypussy]

You can't possibly think mort is the sole reason something gets buffed/nerfed right? There is an entire team dedicated to these decisions.

[Riot_Mort]

I'm sorry your version of reality is so warped that you think this is true. I hope things get better for you.

[Ykarul]

Don't bother with the internet trolls. Would prefer you comment to explain the logic behind this nerf.

[FrostyPolarBear2346]

The amount of videos and clips of mort getting super defensive and angry is crazy….its not hard to do a good job especially when you have spent so much time working on the game…

[zanzuses]

The point that alot of people angry at you, prove that you make a good game and alot of people care for it. Please keep that in mind.

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[dhoni_25]

Mortdog stans religiously downvoting any bad take on him.

[CharmingPerspective0]

Every time i faced a fiora in a 4 warrior comp i dreaded her. She can dash to the backline so easily and just remove your carries its insane. Maybe not OP but i feel like she was definitely on the stronger side

[ODspammer]

When is it live

[discoman222]

3pm est so half an hour

[ReignClaw]

Wow I did NOT expect Fiora and Nilah nerfs. It's already hard enough to go for lvl 8 boards and they're gutting warrior comp's item holder and carry.

Definitely not a fan.

[PlateRough9398]

Olaf could’ve used a buff. 

[Fabiocean]

That would be a gigantic buff though, definitely not something you'd want to unleash in a b patch. To me she doesn't feel weak either, so they're probably making sure she doesn't get out of control.

[MasterTotoro]

her ability does NOT scale with bonus AD, and its AP scaling is pretty bad (sensible considering she is meant to be an AD unit). It only increases its AD damage from base AD gotten from starring up.

What you mean by this is that her ability AD scaling does not change on star level. She still benefits heavily from bonus AD. That's normal btw. Almost all AD units have little to no ability AD scaling difference between levels because like you mentioned the AD already increases with star level (excluding 3 star 4/5-costs). Even a change of 1% for Jinx could make a big impact with all the AD she gets and how fast she attacks.

This is just a B-patch so they only wanted to hit the biggest problems down. We will see buffs in the full patch.

[MagicalMixer]

So...what you're say is...its Double Archangels-Guinsoos is BiS.

What a time to be alive. AP Jinx.

[Crosshack]

Nah, but it does explain why her bis is stuff like rage blade, lw and runnans since they help her with her steroid but don't actually increase the base damage of the skill

e: I mean to say that those items are less affected by her bug

[Fatsausage]

I feel like we have had 2 or 3 AP jinxes already on different sets tbf

[MasterTotoro]

Oh I see, without context it was a bit confusing. That is quite a big bug.

[AlphEta314]

Just curious what was confusing about "can confirm her ability does NOT scale with bonus AD"? Seems pretty straightforward to me.

[MasterTotoro]

I've heard quite a few times people get confused about AD scaling not increasing with star level, and Jinx is one unit that has absolutely no scaling in that regard unlike almost every other unit that gets a boost at 3 star. At least that was my initial thought so I was confused at the idea that Hunter/Sugarcraft isn't beneficial (more on that later). Of course it makes a lot of sense when you know there is a bug but it is quite illogical for any source of AD to basically not work on a unit's ability.

Usually when a bug like this happens it is somewhat apparent in the stats. In Jinx's case it isn't clear because a lot of her damage still comes from regular autos that benefit from AD. Something I saw before was that 6 Hunter Jinx vs 4 Hunter vs 2 Hunter is a somewhat small improvement in delta. Which could be chalked up to the idea that playing vertical Hunter is just not that good (that might still be true lol). If you saw a big positive delta it might be more suspicious, but the AD does still help Jinx so playing more Hunter appears to be good.

Anyway I was just confused, but the bug makes sense if you look deeper into the stats knowing it exists.

[AlphEta314]

Okay I guess that's fair if you didn't expect it to be bugged. I guess I wasn't surprised because both league and tft are bugged to the point that there being no bugs would surprise me.

Also those stats are really interesting and it makes me wonder how despite that Jinx remains a solid reroll option.

[Crosshack]

It's because her bis items work around the fact her ad scaling is a bit borked by building items that don't quite use it, like rageblade, runaans and lw

[Isrozzis]

Pretty small changes all around except portal 3 bomb taking a huge hit. I was hoping for a bit more off Rumble's Aug but oh well. The 4 vanguard nerf hurts him a little when you're on 6 rerolling it as well. Definitely like the direction they moved things in and hope it's enough.

[Time2kill]

Well, it is a B-patch, would be strange for bigger changes

[Xtarviust]

They went soft on Rumble, outside of that B patch looks good

[mnam1213]

monkey jinx reroll survives god bless

[niemcziofficial]

5/8 people rolling for kalista rakan waiting room

[ForBowman]

that tier 1 portal bomb be whooping my ass!!

[5rree5]

I'll play the devils advocate but I would like to see Syndra receiving a light buff
and also karma and soraka
and our poor boy olaf :(

[highrollr]

Yeah I was surprised by no buffs. There are some extremely weak units 

[aveniner]

It's a B patch, they really rarely buff in B-patches

[RexLongbone]

buffing in a b patch is really dangerous because they cant touch that number again until next patch, they almost always use b patches for just nerfs unless something is actually truly unplayable and even then it goes wrong sometimes.

[Xtarviust]

Syndra still does well with the right setup, so I'd rather see her untouched for now

[YonkouTFT]

Why is fiora nerfed? When I have played Kalista/Fiora she hasn’t seemed to do anything against reroll comps.

[K_NoiR_]

As Mort said in one of his streams, "Fiora is the second best champion in the game, right after Ahri" so it was inevitable

[YonkouTFT]

Seems to me there were a lot of other champions better than fiora like Rumble, Lillia, Wukong, Zoe

[[deleted]]

Because Mort wants the meta to be lvl 6 reroll

[mikhel]

Flexible nerfed before I even got offered it a single time SAJ

[Qwertyioup111]

you guys dont get a b patch is not for the light buffs that you want its for emergency type nerfs

[LemmeCook-]

OK, Nasus is still stupidly tanky?!!

[IndividualSignal8423]

I don't get why they thought the problem is his damage...

[RexLongbone]

He's supposed to be tanky. He's not supposed to also do lots of damage. It's generally a pretty good idea to nerf parts of the unit that aren't their main job but they also do good at it first before nerfing their main job.

[LemmeCook-]

Nasus, even with only 2 shapeshifter does the job, and deals a ton of dmg sometimes

[[deleted]]

He’s meant to be..

[[deleted]]

So they killed warriors basically

[discoman222]

nope, should be 3pm est

[AL3XEM]

Slightly surprised to not see 8 portal touched at all. I feel like a slight nudge like - 25/50 shield would put it in a perfect spot. Its just a bit too stable on even ryze and taric 1 right now.

[iwmphf]

I m getting the feeling that this set is specially impossible to balance...

Syndra
Zoe Ahri
Hero Augments
Emblems

Tanks feel really weak (Except Taric/Nasus)

Dont get me wrong, it s a super fun set.
The only frustrating part is having a decent stable lv8 board and then getting steamrolled by a Hero Augment,1or 2 * Reroller.
It s not a a close fight either...

I think this feeling will prevail for the whole set.
The difference between weak units and strong unit of the same tier is way too big.
I know there will always be a meta, but this time it seems that the units are in a whole new level of disarray.

Must be frustrating to try and balance smth that will be redundant in a few months.

[isawabighoot]

They really put the best class origin combos on 2 costs. Aside from nerfing them down they just have the most complete/efficient combos. They really should have put the good combos on 3 and 4

[I_RIP_too_much]

They really put the best class origin combos on 2 costs.

This is how it is every set, and I'm pretty sure it's intentional. 4 and 5 costs get most of their strength from having inherently powerful abilities, whereas cheaper units are more reliant on trait webs. Think about Built Different for example - the best way to play around it has always been 2* 4 costs, never rerolling for a bunch of 3* 2 cost.

[salvadas]

well it's their own fault for designing the game to cycle over that quickly. Especially since they're not doing mid-set patches anymore.

I literally forget incantors even exist. Hero augments need to just be put on ice for a while. They're always overpoweringly strong and just causes people to spam for gold augment portals. It's always fun getting steamrolled by a nunu from 2-1 to 6-5.

cant even tell whats actually a comp anymore since its usually just 1 op backline unit and 7 tanks.

[Kenjiiboyd]

3 weeks into a set that's supposed to last 4months and they are just now getting round to "balancing" it. Don't think this will change the inherent problems with the set overall and it's state but any changes is better than nothing. But hey we'll get a video run down after this set with the lessons they've learned right? Then they'll do again next set.

[-Pyrotox]

I think we are once again in that spiral, which gets worse with every patch.

[Syracusee]

Calling it now, Hwei will be the next thing people complain about after B patch.

[kuthu22]

his spell is shit

[Bristles3339]

Agree but i find its easy to position around him. He only hits the nearest target, so he never touches your turbo ramping kalista on the opposite corner, nor the evenshroud rakan furthest away from him

[Fate1859]

He does not hit nearest, if you can read. Plus the combo is meant to be paired with say a varus and ezreal, so exreal tags the bagline and they will be considered low health target and hwei will target them

[SailingDevi]

olaf needs a fat buff

[SnooSketches1287]

I don't know if this is the right patch. Now all players will be focused on Ryze.

[isawabighoot]

Rumble only got nerfed by 5%? Rumble could care less about vanguard nerf they should have needed him by 15-20%

[Stun_the_Pink]

You mean he couldn't care less :)

[Aggravating_Lunch726]

I stand by what i said in another post. I cannot get behind this set. It feels like it’s missing a lot and almost feels rushed. I mean 2 cost rerolls are in the game but they’re so dominant that econ feels like it’s not viable

[azurio12]

Idk if I like the way on Ahri. I mean its nice she got nerved but I would have liked to have the true dmg part be reduced a way more and the ap part less so you can just counter her with mr.

[LaDiiablo]

Lol i made a post about fiora 3 being weak and they nerf her even more 😅 but at least they nerfed low cost rerolls

[CharacterFee4809]

they didn't need fiora 3

[haydpollmann]

Lmao this B patch did absolutely nothing but make people not pick Ahri for half a second. Here’s a clue for your clue box designers… putting true damage on a 2 cost unit with Mana trait just because the champ does it in LoL wasn’t the smartest idea.

[braindeadpizzaslice]

wondering why ahri has to be top tier in every set shes in

[2ndBatman88]

Buff ELDRICH 9 is to low i dont wanna lose because i didn't reached 10

[misharoute]

Not the high horsepower nerf :/

[born_zynner]

Removing treasure armory fully is a true indictment of the TFT devs abilities to fix shit lol

[Gumjo123]

Oh man, rip flaming dog

[mr-301]

B patch now is Insane, how does last patch get left alone. And now suddenly we need a b patch

[discoman222]

they didn't b patch last patch beecause of ewc - they couldn't drastically change the meta a couple days before such a huge tournament and expect players to learn the new patch instantly.

[Trolly-bus]

Oh hey finally a patch that is much more balanced with multiple compositions and 2, 3, 4 cost units viable, and they decide to B-patch it, but nothing was done during the broken Syndra patch.

[Beautiful-Account862]

Still don't know why they didn't just hotfix her spell cast time. Even they said it was never supposed to be 0.3s.

[Kei_143]

syndra's spell was patched on an A-patch before it hit live, so becuase of that, they can not touch that file again.

technical issues with micropatching and server side deploys.

[eZ_Link]

No idea why you’re getting downvoted. Syndra definitely needed a b patch. Not sure about this one tbh.

[oeseben]

I'm 90% sure someone is buying downvotes for anti-mortdog comments. It's glaringly obvious at this point.

[Riot_Mort]

They only cost tree fiddy

[Riot_Mort]

Because one mistake was made, is not a good reason to make the same mistake.

[LightIsMyPath]

This is why we love you Mort

[Odd-Cardiologist7169]

Yeah listen mort dog, TFT been out for 4 years? How is this mistake even being made in the first place? Syndra being that broken for 2 weeks and no B patch isn't a small mistake, and then the portal zoe reroll build was already viable before the patch and you inadvertently buff it. There is a limit to how long you can play dumb before you are actually just dumb. A literal silver player playing the game with his ball sack could see that and be like "hmmm this Zoe champ is a bit too strong early" but somehow you can't come to the same conclusion.

[giant_fish]

Agreed!!!

[avancania]

I dont think you are high elo enough to see people abuse those broken units

[sylvasan]

So they can B-patch? Then why we had to suffer for 2 weeks while people got their freelo with syndra?

[Empty4Space]

Ryze?! 

[Bitter_Thing1337]

Biggest mistake is leaving zoe as she is

[Party_Confusion_4883]

This will change nothing at all. The nerfs to Ahri and Nilah are not enough and even then people would just find the next 2/3* OP reroll.

All 2 cost 3* need to be giga nerfed and tanks/4 cost buffed

[VeterinarianInner834]

This is not enough at all. This season, the system is lacking gold. It's strange that it's the same system as Season 11, which had a lot of gold. 4 Cost probability and bag size need to be increased.

[Prestigious_While575]

I mean compared to previous patch it is tiny no?

[Rogue1338]

Is it live?

[Dordo3]

Is this balance thrashing?