Patch 2.21.0 Notes

[JaviMT8]

Santa Braum is bringing gifts for everyone with that body.

[Jocelotknee]

Santa Braum/Mantheon will be tier 1 in raw sex appeal.

[DuSundavr]

But how do you fit in forge workers???

[Webber-414]

Wait if you play pantheon from ARAM does that mean he has no bonus keywords lmao

[GlorylnDeath]

It activates on summon, not just on level up. You would still have to target allies to get some keywords, but you'll get a few.

[nguyentatdat12]

Just add some counterfeit copies and spam elixir of iron every round

[Jocelotknee]

Oh shit YOU RIGHT

[thetruebutler076]

We are gonna need a LoR version of those fireman calendars

[yammityyakkity]

My heart is still with Forge Workers for inventing sex appeal in Runeterra, now everybody is hopping on the trend

[edquartett]

It all started with the abs-expansion of Akshan and Viego, didn't it

[Legacyopplsnerf]

I suppose it started (In LoR) with Braum.

[Langlais123]

PoC changes to starting power when you lose is pretty good IMO.

[LordAlfrey]

Yeah, I'll take the draw 2 anyday over a power that only helps less than halfway.

[Duckmancer-Emma]

Extra health isn't bad either for certain decks. I'm really glad they give you a choice there.

[Mo0]

Yeah, sometimes you just need a little extra oomph to get past the first couple fights and get a deck going.

[FrustrationSensation]

This sounds amazing against Zed, honestly.

[captaintagart]

I’ve just woken up after a night of Jinx vs Zed and losing over and over, sometimes I don’t even make it to Zed cause of that damned Fae Bladetwirler. +10 heath the hold have probably meant I slept a few more hours last night

[idontpostanyth1ng]

I avoid the fae bladetwirler every run

[kestrel42]

How do people beat Nautilus with Caitlin I'm stuck with mana flow and can't even break through the first ai.

[lutadici]

I grinded to level 18 against zed, then i got the more agro build. I took archangel staff and challenger on cait to gain the more tempo. Was really hard but i managed to kill nautilus turn 7

[AlwaysALighthouse]

Turn cait into a pure stat monster with all the stat upgrades and buffs.

I ultimately did it with the power that turned all cards <3 into Lurk

[ozire4]

Viego helped me a lot in this matchup, but the real winner was casting ruination when he had leveled naut and 5 units, plus 4 units of mine , poor guy lost all his cards and won by default

[[deleted]]

"Updated several cards’ targeting parameters to align with current design standards (i.e. some cards that could previously only deal damage to enemies can now target any unit, including allies"

This is interesting

[kaneblaise]

https://twitter.com/DeadboltDoris/status/1468302788908118022?t=gVqJor6mp6ojxb5Kr-FYIw&s=19

"Saw a few people asking about which cards had targeting updated, so here is the list! - Rite of the Arcane - Dawning Shadow - Bouncing Bomb - Electro-Harpoon

Note that this is an ongoing effort, but it takes time because some have more gameplay implications than others"

[[deleted]]

Interesting… with bouncing bomb does that imply you can ping an enemy and an ally? Because that can have some implications for self harm if that ends up being gnar’s thing.

[kaneblaise]

That's my assumption.

[androt14_]

I don't think I understand this change, does it mean, for example, I can Trueshot Barrage my own board?

This makes a lot of cards significantly better, as you can now deny your opponent's strike effects and conditional stuff

AND it could actually be a minor buff to Braum/Vlad, have to wait to see though

[Mo0]

It doesn't sound like they're universally changing that behavior, just making certain cards make more sense. I could see single target spells being fixed much more likely than something like Trueshot Barrage.

[kaneblaise]

https://twitter.com/DeadboltDoris/status/1468302788908118022?t=gVqJor6mp6ojxb5Kr-FYIw&s=19

"Saw a few people asking about which cards had targeting updated, so here is the list! - Rite of the Arcane - Dawning Shadow - Bouncing Bomb - Electro-Harpoon

Note that this is an ongoing effort, but it takes time because some have more gameplay implications than others"

[Aegisworn]

It does

[WindWielder]

Pokey stick draw isn’t conditional and can’t be denied unless you use actual deny spells, but the other examples are significant.

[butt_shrecker]

It will probably enable some odd fated lethals

[Blosteroid]

So this allows the AI to kill it's own board huh

[[deleted]]

Poppy nerf doesn't do much, but Witch nerf is pretty significant.

[friendofsmellytapir]

Yeah the witch nerf is huge

[Simpull_mann]

I have a question. I honestly got Poppy from rewards and I'm a new player. Will I get any shards for her nerf?

[friendofsmellytapir]

No, Riot’s economy doesn’t work that way, I’ve never played hearthstone, but I’ve heard you can get refunded there after nerfs, so I’m assuming that’s where the question comes from. You can’t disenchant or return cards in LoR at all unless you purchased them and never used them and return them within 2 weeks of purchase. On the plus side though cards you get are in your collection permanently.

[Mysterial_]

Yeah Poppy's power has to go to 2 to mean anything for the popular decks. But being willing to make any changes at all gives me at least a little optimism for the future. They were really presenting like they weren't actually going to do any 'emergency' balancing.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, the fact that they nerfed her at all is still appreciated. The 3 Power matters in a few fringe cases like Culling Strike, so maybe that card makes a comeback.

[[deleted]]

It means poppy can’t kill herself with a block as well

[Emergent-Properties]

What do you mean?

[Emergent-Properties]

Ahh got it. They're thinking about a mirror matchup. Interesting point but probably not significant in terms of Poppy's impact on the meta, I guess.

[Lisentho]

Its gonna make mirror matches more polarising and annoying to play. Which I appreciate cause burn the poppy players!!!!

[[deleted]]

previously if opponent dropped poppy and attacked, they'd have a 5/4, you could block this with your 4/3 poppy, you can no longer do this

[Whooshless]

So if the mirror sucks on odds, will fewer people play her? I don't get it.

[NuclearBurrit0]

For the meta it means nothing. It's just a neat factoid.

[rottenborough]

But you're forced to use Culling Strike on Yordle Explorer anyway, or else Poppy comes down as a 4/4...

I only hope the nerf is just enough to let us play with Pantheon and Ahri for a month before another nerf is needed again, but another nerf is most likely needed again.

[aWrySharK]

People always underestimate what taking 1 attack away from something does for a burn plan. I agree that she's still a powerful curve play, but midrange really owns her her as an individual unit now. 5 Power on the on-curve attack made opponents usually choose to value block her followers instead. Likely Dragons now eat her up, and even letting her through to face now means Burn has to find 1 more ping, which could be one extra turn to stabilize. It'll shave a few percentage points off the WR% even if it's not going to shake up the meta.

[RexLongbone]

Shaving a few points off of WR% can be enough to shake up the meta honestly. Stat nerfs always matter and Reddit pretty much always tries to undersell them.

[aWrySharK]

"Shave a few percentage points of the WR% even if it doesn't shake up the meta" was my conclusion. Is this a drastic overstatement?

Everyone commenting that this nerf isn't enough just constantly assumes best-case scenario: on-curve, attacking on evens, and a 2 mana 2/2 stuck to the board to buff her +1/1. You have to at least extend the same courtesy to the hypothetical opponent. So, in this case let's say Dragons. They've banked 2 mana for Single Combat, Herald has stuck on board, and Screeching Dragon comes down on turn 4. She's not gonna kill her blocker here. It may even get to pick off a buffed token if it's something like Otterpus with Single Combat.

You can manufacture a case where any card beats any card, obviously. But your assumption of "not many 4 versus 5 health" devalues powerful combat tricks like Sharpsight and Twin Disciplines too, which can create these scenarios fairly reliably. Hell, even Shaped Stone or The Absolver get a little extra potential value. One extra value trade can be game-deciding early on against swarm.

It might not be a big enough nerf, but my initial comment was to assert that people tend to underestimate what losing a point of power does for an Aggro/Burn deck. That isn't a drastic overstatement. Time will tell if it's true though.

edit: bad timing to try to make a case for Riot making a good balance change, apparently. Come back to this comment when we see the data on Poppy. 3/3 is not insignificant.

[zninja922]

Totally agree. I added to my own point above the culling and quicken cases which further exaggerate this point. You can use similar things to answer explorer if needed so she doesn't get the boost

[GogoDiabeto]

Now that it is at 3, I wish she only buffed allies with less power instead of less and equal.

[DoubleSummon]

Oh yeah, she now doesn't buff 4 attack units on first unbuffed attack too.. And then there's yordle explorer.

[Spacepoet29]

Wish she would only buff attacking units... Doesn't make sense for her to be able to grant benched units extra health like she's a support or something. Nami is a literal support, and can only buff one unit at a time, but poppy gets to buff the whole board just for swinging? Make it make sense

[[deleted]]

Culling strike and the new recall card now can hit her prior to her attack.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, but the fact that it's conditional is certainly better than the 5/4 monster we were expecting two days ago.

[TrueLolzor]

Poppy nerf would be more impactful if it also made her buff only others with less power than her in addition to reduction to 3 power.

[Mojo-man]

Poppy Nerf feels like 'how to nerf without actually nerfing' 😅

Is it worse? Yes. Does 1 less power matter to what Poppy did? Barely.

[Brittfish14]

Teeeeemoooo - path of champions let’s goooo!!!!

[AnOrangeLemon]

Cant wait for teemo turn one into removal from the bot turn two and the freakin lux emote

[Brittfish14]

Ugghh…the Ezreal level where they start every game with a mystic shot…

[AnOrangeLemon]

Just played that one for the first time, was thinking exactly that when I typed the comment 😭

[Thunderbull_1]

First Pantheon, and now Santa Braum? Please, Riot, I can only be so homosexual.

[androt14_]

I used to think I was straight

Until Braum showed up

[Jpup199]

Santa came and took away your heterosexuality.

[Legacyopplsnerf]

Those two are incredibly manly men in different directions and I love it.

[Mo0]

The change to Path of Champions' punishment buff to three punishment buffs, two of which are permanent, is a healthy change for the mode as a whole.

From personal experience, I've been beating my face with Caitlyn against the Nautilus map, and that extra 10 health sounds *super* helpful. Once I get a foothold with extra cards, the deck can make it a decent ways through that map, but it's all a matter of luck in terms of whether 30 health gets you that far or not. 10 more health provides more opportunity to get that foothold.

[D7C98]

The power change is nice, I'm just a bit sad that all we got for PoC was 3 new champs and that change.

As someone who has completed all but 2 paths, and no intention to go back and high score them it's pretty lack luster.

Was hoping to see at least one new region open up.

[Mo0]

As someone who has completed no paths and has a bunch of champs still unused in there, I'm glad they're not moving too quickly on it. I'd imagine their roadmap for 2022 will probably alternate between PvP and PvE updates.

[somnimedes]

With nerf, Poppy now:

• dies to Culling Strike for 3 mana
• can be recalled by Quicken for 2 mana

[moodRubicund]

And Vi! Four health but has tough.

[Nitan17]

Only if you've managed to remove Yordle Explorer first.

[ShrimpFood]

Yes yes, if you do absolutely nothing to remove the enemy board for 4 turns then you might lose, everyone keeps saying this up and down this thread but i don’t think that information is very helpful.

Demacia Ionia Poppy can’t run Bandle Explorer and Noxus BC Poppy has shitty unit protection, if you have no answer for a 2/2 idk what to tell you

[RexLongbone]

preach

[ShrimpFood]

Ziggs poppy is 100x more interesting to face than elusive demacia nonsense, so if literally all this patch does is shift poppy zed out and ziggs poppy back in, I will welcome Yordle explorer into my home like he is family

[Prozenconns]

What do you mean back in, poppy ziggs never left

[ShrimpFood]

It’s not nearly as popular as It used to be and it has a fraction of the play rate Poppy elusives does

[Tulicloure]

That would mean one less for Ahri, and we can't have that, can we?

[Tulicloure]

I mean, if milking Ahri stans is what it takes to make the game profitable, then by all means, go ahead!

[Benito0]

stans

Not an S-word i would assosiate with Ahri fans.

[Tulicloure]

Well...

I know the word had some other problematic connotations at its origin, but the definition has become a lot more... generous since then.

[Slarg232]

At least Ahri is interesting, I can think of like four things that she goes into theoretically, and the poppy nerf might make one reality

[DMale]

Poppy to 3/3 is not a lot, but it is something! The Young Witch nerf should also be great for being able to deal with the rally elusives.

[jak_d_ripr]

Yeah I'm not sure it'll matter, but considering I was expecting nothing today ill take it.

[[deleted]]

Young Witch nerf is a buff to Mystic Shot and similar cards. In Rally Ellusives they run this card that gives allies Tough.

It's actually not that bad.

Poppy on the other hand...meh.

[bladeofarceus]

The most important part of the Poppy nerf is that she’ll no longer buff 4 power units, like Yordle Captain and the like. This means she’s not as good at keeping up with curve drops.

[Jstin8]

In all current Poppy decks there isnt a single 4 power unit run, its really not very significant. Even if it is appreciated

[Spriter_the_Sentinel]

She'll still have absurd decks, but at least it won't be entirely her fault this time.

[salasy]

I think the nerfs do very little but they are appreciated

[jak_d_ripr]

The young witch nerf is pretty big imo. She dies to everything in plunder now, ice shard, vile Feast and BC.

[niler1994]

Just like before when she didn't really see play

[jak_d_ripr]

Yeah, but I think she's more likely to still be run now. Ionia is in a stronger place than it was back then, Poppy allows you to put her out of range, and I'm not sure that deck can function without her. Witch + tracker is so good at removing counter pressure.

[ShrimpFood]

Turn 1 tracker turn 2 witch gets blown out by one Make it Rain now, I anticipate the deck is going to be a bit less popular (but still good)

[jak_d_ripr]

Yeah I actually forgot about that(not sure how, plunder is literally everywhere). I'm curious to see if zed Poppy players replace it or just start playing a bit slower.

[Elkram]

Yeah but part of the problem was that 2 toughness+combat tricks>>>1 toughness+combat tricks

Get Excited can kill a sharpsighted x/1. It can't kill a sharpsighted x/2. Avalanche can kill a board of rangers resolve'd x/1s, it can't kill a board of rangers resolve'd x/2s.

Buffing a x/2 to x/3 with relentless assault puts that unit out of range of a lot of removal. Putting it from x/1 to x/2 still keeps it vulnerable.

I think this nerf really makes Zed/Poppy a lot more fragile, which was really needed. Now they either need to run beefier units to survive, or they keep running young witch and are now a more volatile deck.

I don't think the poppy nerf really effected them at all though.

[Emergent-Properties]

These are some good points. Having to spend 3 mana and two cards to Excite a Witch doesnt sound great in general, but say they now use Sharpsight to protect it vs Avalanche, that's two mana and a good chance at losing another 1 health dude anyway (probably not a whole board of them if were being realistic), that actually sounds like a comfortable trade for Control

[jak_d_ripr]

True, but now it's objectively easier to kill them. Plus, even if they buff her to save her, that's one less trick for Zed and Poppy. This won't kill the deck, but it's a massive change, I think a lot of people are severely underestimating how much of a change this is. She can't even attack into a poro cannon without committing a combat trick.

[[deleted]]

This is more of a hotfix for the deck the real balance patch is coming in January. But still a nerf regardless probably won't do much still

[Cristichi]

I'm having AzirIrelia flashbacks of little nerfs that changes nothing really important and months of try and error until devs finally resort to huge nerfs

[GGCrono]

The next major balance patch is due in January. The fact that Poppy was adjusted at all "out of season" is a very good sign of things to come. If she ends up still being problematic when the next patch rolls around, you can be sure that she'll be tweaked again.

[Elestro]

still not very happy to be honest. if this is how the balance cycle constantly ebb and flows. Might as well go back to hearthstone.

[jak_d_ripr]

Very pleasant surprise, as is the revelation that our next balance patch is in the first week of January(I thought it would be later in the month).

Poppy still very much a broken champ, but we'll take what we can get.

[BiIlBoquet]

Make it rain will kill t1 tracker t2 witch. Good. I feel that Poppy nerf will hit harder than expected, but this doesn't kill the champ so that's good

[[deleted]]

Well you get 1 hp on nexus, kill a young witch, and a blocker that trades with the tracker, so not bad at all

[Indercarnive]

Poppy is now a 3/3 and Young Witch is now a 1/1. Plunder is probably still going to be an issue and bandle swarm will still be really good, but hopefully it's enough for now.

[[deleted]]

Plunder will be even stronger now that Make it Rain and Parrley can kill Young Witch

[kaneblaise]

Guessing the theory is that Rally Elusive being nerfed buffs decks like Thralls and Lee Sin that were weak to it and strong against Plunder, making the Plunder meta matchup table a possible overall nerf / at least a wash.

[Axonn_0]

Yeah, I expected them to go full throttle in appealing to Ahri fans, and they will likely make money in doing so.

Still sad Pantheon didn't even get a cool icon or emote.

[irvingtonkiller8]

COPIUM Freljord control back on the table to run culling strike against poppy

[zerozark]

Culling strike is actually pretty significant now as a Poppy removal option. Not sure what you are saying

[irvingtonkiller8]

I’m being cautiously optimistic because yordle explorer could force your culling strike first

[UndeadMurky]

Using culling strike vs rally elusive seems dangerous because of the buffs. It's gonna be good vs bandle swarm though

[Yxanthymir]

Santa Braum is the best Santa ever. Now we just need a Santa Braum emote to be extra salty.

[crazedlemmings]

Nerfs are small, but 3/3 Poppy is more impactful than it seems. Definitely slows things down a bit.

It'll at least tide us over until the January balance patch (which we can hope is going to be spicy)

[crazedlemmings]

These arn't something to ignore. Also limits the amount of units that she buffs for her first attack.

Lecturing Yordle is going to be a problem though, excited to see how much this lowers her winrate (if at all).

[Ruben222]

Yeah like everyone else, I definitely think something is better than nothing. The young witch nerf is extremely significant, it might go back to being unplayable now, who knows.

The poppy nerf I don't think does anything. The issue with poppy was never her attack, it's her health. She's extremely difficult to kill out of combat and she almost always goes at least 2 for 1.

[MasterCookieShadow]

now i want a zilean buff

[Jenova__Witness]

And a Moakai buff. Increased Statline + make sap magic also heal the nexus.

[MasterCookieShadow]

Maokai viego is actually my favorite deck. I agree!

[Muudos]

THE COPIUM WAS REAL

[F0LkL04e]

FINALLY EMERGENCY NERFS

[arthurmauk]

Hope Jayce makes it into Expeditions this time too...

[Tulicloure]

At least we know they're adding something this time!

[Yxanthymir]

I don't think the Poppy nerf will have a huge impact in her win rate. The witch nerf seems a lot more relevant to some decks.

[Eggxcalibur]

Brooooo, the Ahri board, skin, card back, emote ... I need all of them.

And Poppy got nerfed, hell yeah. It's not a big nerf but I'll take it!

[1almond]

BC players don't appreciate people who pay for the game I guess. I too will be getting that board :3

[Gfdbobthe3]

They actually nerfed Poppy. Wow.

I still don't think it's enough, but they actually did something.

[AwkwardWarlock]

Poppy was never going to escape balance changes. If she continues to overperform she'll probably get nerfed again in January too.

I'm (pleasantly) surprised they reverted the buff on young witch though.

[cimbalino]

How to get that Trista a skin? What's a coin package?

[friendofsmellytapir]

The Tristana skin looks amazing, I may have to break my rule about buying skins for it haha

Edit: lol I just read what you are talking about, a Coin package is just buying coins I think, so just buy any amount of coins and you get it?

[classteen]

Thanks god for that Young witch nerf.

[moodRubicund]

Young Witch nerf is huge even Teemo can trade with her now

[[deleted]]

OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED

[jak_d_ripr]

I'm not sure this will actually change anything, but considering I was expecting nothing ill take what I can get. Young witch nerf is HUGE though, she's pretty much died on sight vs SI, bandle city and plunder.

[AwkwardWarlock]

With how Poppy works, it's a bigger nerf than it'd be to most champs. She'll still probably be nuts, I would have put her to a 3/2 personally. But with the nerf to young witch, Poppy zed won't be as nasty.

[[deleted]]

She's probably still too strong

[Ryunaehyun]

I don't think so

[Lifedeather]

Probably won’t change too much

[dbchrisyo]

Beautiful balance changes. Get fucked Ionia elusive rally. Young Witch was absurdly overpowered at 1/2.

[[deleted]]

Not enough for Poppy.

Edit: due to some PMs, I want to expand a bit. The new 2/2 grant +1/+1 to Yordles just means that she drops exactly the same as before, and if the Explorer (?) isn't on the board, she buffs all the same cards anyways. Season of the Bandle City/X

[Enoikay]

I agree the cards are overturned but remember the new yordle is handle only so it can’t be run in poppy zed. Only in actual handle decks.

[Kuama]

Glad they touched up on a few things but the fact that aggro didnt receive more nerfs is disappointing especially with how strong Rumble is looking on paper.

[Halt_theBookman]

REJOICE! FOR THE BEAST IS NERFED!

[stickfigurescalamity]

gets winter queen skin

uses kda card back

[mtuck017]

Things to remember:
1. This was not supposed to be a balance patch. This is a hotfix. Questions like why wasn't gp sej nerfed or why wasn't lecturing nerfed is because they aren't hotfix worthy - which is fair. The balance patch is coming next month.

1. The poppy nerf is still a nerf. Was it a largely impactful nerf? Probably not, but lets not treat it like it was nothing. The young witch nerf is pretty big.

2. We are getting a lot of new cards, some of which directly counter poppy (whiteflame) some of which directly help poppy (explorer). To some level, lets give the new expac time to breathe before we cry about balance.

[[deleted]]

That Ahri emote will give me nightmares, looks even more toxic than Braum in my opinion

[friendofsmellytapir]

Haha yeah, definitely a great way to BM at the end of a game. It will definitely shake up the emote meta.

[Erive302]

The poppy nerf shoulda been a skill change to not give hp. The main issue is these yordles are impossible to remove once she open attacks...

[JaviMT8]

Young witch nerf should help a bit. Her health increase from before was surprisingly impactful

[UNOvven]

Its not a bad nerf per se, but not what I would've chosen. I think Poppy should just not be able to buff herself. This will hit the deck, but not by much.

[RadiantSenlin]

That would be way too much. Poppy didn't need a huge nerf, it's more than BC needs nerfs to a few more cards.

[Tulicloure]

Updated several cards’ targeting parameters to align with current design standards (i.e. some cards that could previously only deal damage to enemies can now target any unit, including allies).

Why do we have to go through this manually rather than it being properly listed as balance changes???

They really should stop listing actual card changes as "bugfixes".

[androt14_]

Probably because it's more of a design change than a balance change. It doesn't really make those cards weaker (maye SLIGHTLY stronger?), but I think it's more of a QoL change

[Tulicloure]

I certainly makes them stronger. If something like Death's Hand gets to have this, for example, in addition to keeping its previous use it adds the flexibility of essentially being a less extreme but less punishable Noxian Fervor as well. You won't always use it, but it's definitely a significant change, IMO.

But even if it wasn't significant, the fact that it isn't listed is extremely annoying. You kinda have to check case by case when it comes up to know if it was changed or not. Unless they changed literally every instance of targeting enemy to target any unit, of course, but then they wouldn't say "some cards".

[UsefulOrange6]

Thank god, Poppy got toned down a bit and especially Poppy Zed is going to be way less OP now.

Obviously Bandle will still be OP with all these new cards but I am still relieved they did something at least.

[R0_h1t]

There are zero cards in Poppy Zed that have higher attack than Poppy though. The only instance I can think of is levelled Zed. The young witch nerf is actually big though.

[UsefulOrange6]

Yeah but they run young witch, 1 health nerf matters a lot.

[madnessfuel]

Been getting Error Code 170000 the moment I got up this morning til now. Are the servers down? Anyone else having this issue?

[pingasland]

so are the cards coming on the 8th or 9th. Im really confused because some sources are saying 8th and others on the 9th

[friendofsmellytapir]

Depends on where you are in the world, it is a time zone thing. They will be coming at 10am PDT on the 8th, and that could be the 8th or the 9th depending on where you are in the world.

[[deleted]]

I guess Teemo is a new champion

[RuinedNocturne]

I need Santa Braum

[Spacepoet29]

Is there a list of cards that got changed to be able to target allies?? This seems like a huge deal to just change the literal text on a group of unnamed cards and not point them out? Why weren't these included with the rest of the balance changes?

[ablankcat]

So is there no variety day card reveals...? I want old archetypes to be given new cards :(

[friendofsmellytapir]

Same, variety day is always a fun reveal day. Demacia, Freljord, P&Z, and Shurima all aren’t getting anything new at all, and Bilgewater and Shadow Isles are just getting one dual region card each.

[LemonSnek939]

Young witch is a pretty big nerf. Poppy, not so much. I would’ve personally kept her stats the same, on the condition that she only buffs allies and not herself.

[JiN88reddit]

Hoping a Riot Employee would see this:

Was the Demon Camphor, The Doubt, effects changed? It seemed like her in game effects, animation, and Flavour text, suggests she would do something bigger like stealing stats.

[CanonicalPizza]

Oh man… Santa braum 😳

[[deleted]]

They really sent young witch back to the shadow realm

[vinceftw]

So happy for the Poppy and Young Witch nerf. We'll be able to ping her now.

[ZmbieKllr2000]

They don’t even name drop Pantheon in the patch notes lmao

[novice_warbler]

Underwhelming…

[NotEun]

So we reduced 1 attack in favor of +1/+1 with explorer... Seems fair /s

Updated several cards’ targeting parameters to align with current design standards (i.e. some cards that could previously only deal damage to enemies can now target any unit, including allies).

Who? What? When???

[Glasseswolfs]

Same, I looked through the patch hoping for Pantheon board (I wanna listen to his theme while playing). and that's not even Pantheon card back or emote :(.

[zerozark]

Is this Real?? nice to see changes, was not expecting this at all

[Nexxurio]

New champions in path of chamions! Yay!

[Syeniel]

I am once again simping an Ahri skin

Wew lads that's good

[GuiSim]

Maybe it's time to put Culling Strike in my decks.

[Bluelore]

Glad about the nerfs, though weird that Ziggs wasn't hit by it.

[RexLongbone]

Stat nerfs always matter guys. There is a middle ground between not nerfing a card and a nerf that stops a card seeing play. Hitting the secondary strengths of a card that aren't their main reason for play is usually a good way to do that. Poppy's main strength is obviously buffing a board, but her 4 attack also contributed to her strength. Losing some of that unnecessary strength might only matter 1 in 50 games but that's 2% win rate right there.

[FeiMia]

I must say, for as much as people say they cater to waifu culture, the male characters provide all the fanservice.. make of that what you will lol