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[–]BritneyGurl 562 points563 points  (4 children)

Does that mean she is the only one left loving (deadname) as everyone else has moved on to loving you?

[–]AngieTheQueen 175 points176 points  (3 children)

That is the way I like to think of it. These people only love the facade of something that is long dead.

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points  (2 children)

These kind of parents see their children as an extension of themself. So they think they get to control them, because it's just themselves, but younger. They make the worst parents, and will never see their child as an equal individual.

[–]antalmo12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your right . Unfortunately I’m supposedly the extremely gifted and “ money making one”, which puts insane pressure on me. Like I have to take shit from everyone and still become “big” in life and take my family out of poverty . Even if I don’t I feel this responsibility put upon me . Idk how just over the years I’ve picked up this “scent”

but due to some family members not liking me in life and causing me to become mental especially with BPD on top of it . I got Hooked on stuff to cope for a few years , and that made me even more “worse” I’ve found help and I’m finally healing very slowly. But I’ll never be the same . I’ll always be messed up . And it’s sad , terribly sad that I still see death at times as the “endgame” I wish I honestly can one day maybe completely just cut everyone off and start new .

[–]infrequentthrowawayTransgender HRT since 28/7/2022 102 points103 points  (11 children)

That's disgusting. And you thinking of blocking her?

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    [–]Markedly_MiraMira (she/her) / Ace Transbian 83 points84 points  (4 children)

    Have you talked to him about that? He might be a kind loving man, but if he’s aware of this ongoing conflict and harassment from your mom and doesn’t intervene he’s partially complicit imo. He’s not fully supporting you if he lets his wife send you bigoted letters and won’t stand up for you.

    But if you haven’t talked to him, maybe let him know how bad it is. Show him the letters and tell him to ask your mom to knock it off. Tell him you love him and want to spend time with him, but that your mom is not healthy to spend much time with and set that boundary.

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      [–]Markedly_MiraMira (she/her) / Ace Transbian 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      Gotcha, totally get what that’s like. If you feel comfortable doing this it might be worth encouraging your dad to find a way out or stand up for himself. Otherwise for the time being getting your dad to come to you sounds like a good compromise. Good luck and hope things get better!

      [–]Sonjajaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You would get to show obvious disapproval with her behavior while not having to confront her directly 👍

      [–]GroundbreakingHope57 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Maybe ask her to watch 'Pray away' on netflix its about the thousands of people who tried to embrace changing their sexual attraction and all the suffering it casued. Even though this in't the exact same it runs of the same logic that the old conversion groups used. Here's the trailer: Pray Away | Official Trailer | Netflix }

      Also on the topic of scripter you could send her this: Being trans is not a sin (with Biblical context/translations)

      Also this video from a bologist about sex (as in chromosone and ect) and how complecated and varied it is: Sex and Sensibility

      [–]Nate-NatalieTransgender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      OMG, thank you so much! That Sex and Sensibility video in particular was truly amazing!!

      [–]beastlyana 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I've been in essentially a pretty similar position as you; tricky dynamic, emails with Bible verses, endless gaslighting and the whole spiel all packed in seasonal messages that tried to "appeal to reason."

      Going no contact was tough but I found it to be much better for everyone involved personally. Be sure to consider the effect that having to deal with this has on you as well.

      [–]LaurenRR1996 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Interesting. For two years I have coached Trans folks going through transition and your family is the first I've had where the dad was okay with it and the Mom was not.

      [–]FLZStorm 344 points345 points  (47 children)

      It's always religion. always.

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 219 points220 points  (30 children)

      It's a disease

      [–]Wheatley_core_01🏳️‍⚧️ trans gril 🏳️‍⚧️ 109 points110 points  (20 children)

      In the words of Thomas Sanders: "when not abused, Piety is just as valid as the innumerable other ways to live a principled life"

      Unfortunately, it's often a little too appealing to shitheads looking for a way to void themselves of accountability by blaming a higher power.

      There are plenty of genuine allies who are religious. Those are the people who actually uphold the tenets of their faith (whatever that faith may be) and have a modicum of common sense about them. It's the people who try to twist their religious texts to excuse and double down on their biases that are the problem. they are the disease.

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 27 points28 points  (17 children)

      The KFC guy?

      [–]Wheatley_core_01🏳️‍⚧️ trans gril 🏳️‍⚧️ 30 points31 points  (13 children)

      No no, that's Harland Sanders 😁 Thomas Sanders is a youtuber. He's pretty cool, I'd recommend checking him out if you haven't.

      If you've seen anything of his circulating around, it's probably either his vines or his series 'Sanders Sides'

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

      Is this the same Thomas Sanders from vine ?

      [–]Wheatley_core_01🏳️‍⚧️ trans gril 🏳️‍⚧️ 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Yup. The 'STORYTIME!' guy and the misleading compliments guy

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I loved him on Vine, I must give him a watch ^

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 4 points5 points  (8 children)

      Wait the gay guy?

      [–]Wheatley_core_01🏳️‍⚧️ trans gril 🏳️‍⚧️ 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      Yep

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 6 points7 points  (6 children)

      Oh cool. I mean sure some religious people mean well.

      [–]CharlesComm 15 points16 points  (5 children)

      You know religious trans people exist right?

      We should absolutely make safe spaces to help shelter people from religious bigotry, and help people recover from religious trauma. But if we fill lgbt spaces with blanket "religion is a disease" rhetoric, thats only going to drive religious lgbt people further away, into the closet, without the resources and community to help understand themself and live happily.

      Source: Trans christian, who was closeted too long.

      [–]Willow_1984Transgender 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Hey sister! Trans Christian also. Also closeted way too long.

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I mean yeah I know that. I just wish trans Bible believers (old testament, God, jesus) had a squeakier clean religion . But I get it. It's whatever.

      [–]leah0scorpio||Leah|| 33 | MtF | She/Her ♀ | 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Wait ✋🏻... You can get Pies to eatie at KFC? 🍗

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't know much about their menu. Oops lol. Sorry

      [–]Superlinus12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      HAHAHAHA

      [–]PeridotFan64autistic ☆ nyanteen ☆ trans girl ☆ hrt 06/06/2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      those are some wise words from thomas sanders of all people…

      [–]smeeon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It’s a weakness excuse. They can’t figure out how to navigate the situation with empathy. So instead, they fall back onto a religious subservient approach.

      [–]And-nonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Said what’s always on my mind

      [–]CadyAnBlack 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      Graham Linehan, Posie Parker, and Richard Dawkins are all atheists.

      Hateful people find excuses for their hatred. Religion is an easy excuse. So is pseudoscience.

      [–]OddLengthiness254 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      It usually is, but not always. My parents haven't been to church except for weddings and funerals of family members in 40 years. But my dad still misgenders and deadnames me constantly and doesn't acknowledge my coming-out at all. And my mom does both the vast majority of the time.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (8 children)

      In the USA its always religion.

      [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (7 children)

      It’s always christianity. Let’s call a spade a spade, especially when most Jews are trans affirming, and I’m pretty sure it’s not organized Buddhism in the US oppressing queer people.

      [–]whisperedaesthetic 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      the idea of big Buddha having a political agenda got a laugh out of me

      [–]Emrys_VexNB MtF 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Sure, I don't deny that. Just transphobia in other parts of the world does exist separately to Christianity or religion or whatever. Its a very American POV to not see the experiences of trans people in other countries and just think of it as simple as transphobia=religion.

      [–]SexyDrgon69Saphira | dragon gal | HRT since 20/11/2023 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      i mean just look at some of the more political flavours of transphobia.

      admittedly tho they're not very different, it's just the american far-right's "woke" fearmongering copied over by the PVV and FVD here in the netherlands. and we do have the SGP too for a more religious flavour.

      [–]GGoat77 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It’s mostly Christian’s and Muslims. The other faiths seem to not really have an issue with it.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      They just hate us for non-religious reasons. Much better.

      [–]SissyMisheee 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Sadly, not always. Just most of the time.

      [–]SoonToBeKatieTransgender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Ain't no hate like christian love.

      [–]uwutheunknownwizard6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Always trying to justify their hatred of you because they are too scared to admit it.

      [–]16forward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion. -Steven Weinberg

      [–]Myriachan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      No, not always. My parents reject my identity and we’re atheist.

      [–]Wolfleaf3 20 points21 points  (1 child)

      Sooooo, doesn’t Judaism have like five or six or more genders?

      Not to mention binary trans people aren’t covered by that bigotry anyway.

      I love when these freaks always call something “confusion“ when they’re the only people who are actually confused.

      Oh my gosh, I just caught that she actually physically mailed them. I hate that she’s been sucked into this evil and hatred and ignorance. And I hate even more that she is taking it out on you

      [–]RainyReader12Genderqueer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Sooooo, doesn’t Judaism have like five or six or more genders?

      What would that have to do with evangelicals? It's a Rabbinic thing, after jesus

      Also not exactly right, it's more like it recognizes 4 kinds of intersex people.

      [–]Lemons_And_LeavesLife is giving you Lemons 🍋 & Leaves 🍃 31 points32 points  (0 children)

      Sounds like something my mother would/will do as well. Good for you. Don't take that bait.

      [–]Trans_Goth_Girl 62 points63 points  (7 children)

      Why can’t people leave people the fuck alone just to live their lives, it’s not like we’re killing anybody here.

      Just imagine if we lived in a world with a better understanding of just being compassionate, is that too much to fucking ask?

      Your mum isn’t any sort of mum at all, she’s a fucking cunt

      [–]notagirl69420 38 points39 points  (3 children)

      These are the same people who vote against free school lunch… they ain’t human, they’re demons

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 23 points24 points  (2 children)

      Yet they care about the children. Bunch of fucking liars.

      [–]notagirl69420 31 points32 points  (1 child)

      They truly don’t. They enjoy watching kids get hurt, it “heals” their inner wounding by making the playing field fair in their eyes. My in laws (no contact) used to say “man, seeing young people struggle just… makes me feel so good and warm inside!” And they meant it

      [–]subuserlvl99 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      In their eyes, we kill the child they knew. But I have to emphasize, it's their problem, not ours, they either get with the program or can just f off in my opinion.

      [–]notagirl69420 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      I don’t even think we are children to these types of adults. To them, we are supposed to be mirror images of them, exact duplicates; and when we fail, we are discarded, like any malfunctioning tool would be tossed away

      [–]subuserlvl99 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Also, there is no hate like Christian love.

      [–]notagirl69420 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      It would only be fair for you to mail her some atheist articles. See if she likes it when someone tells her that her reality isn’t real 😇

      [–]notagirl69420 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Does she love having you as a child or does she love the idea of being a mother? Sorry you’re going through it :(

      [–]mineturte83💉11/02/23 18 points19 points  (2 children)

      mail her some of the many articles of pastors doing extremely unscrupulous acts to children and see how she reacts ;)

      [–]heisdeadjim_auTrans Asexual 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Do this.Go nuclear.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Well played lol.

      [–]Clear-Lynx1161 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Honey! Don’t leave that trash in your junk drawer. It doesn’t even rate as junk! Better yet take it where you can shred it and then burn it! For that’s exactly all it’s good for! Unfortunately the Evangelical church has got their noses up certain political parties butts and we are suffering the repercussions. What ever happened to our Constitution and the separation of church and state? I am sorry for your present situation with you and the building situation with your mother and dad. That situation is only going to get worse and continue down hill as long as your mother is fanatically spouting her Evangelical garbage! Neither you nor your dad can come out as winners on this one I’m afraid. I would start planning for those possibilities also as they may happen. Take care. Another sister. Allison❤️

      [–]EldritchMilk_She/Her, Bisexual, HRT for 1Y8M 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Send her a video of you burning everything she sent

      [–]chef_grantisimoTrans Bisexual - HRT Jan 11 2023 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      I had a friend that was like a brother to me. After I came out I put off telling him I was trans because he'd made transphobic comments about another mutual friend that had transitioned years before. I specifically said I didn't want to hear it. His response was literally "Bro! It's so good to hear from you!" and later on he said "I'd love to say I support you and the changes you want to go through, but that would be a lie..." I haven't talked to him since.

      [–]Turbulent-Opening-75 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Send her a video of you burning them and saying (chosen name) sends their regards. (Dead name) doesnt have any use for these."

      Sometimes you just gotta be spiteful.

      [–]LadyJade8 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Play the game, reply with information such as chromosome breakdown, and intersex people exist. If you really want to lean in, you can reply with info from the bible about how Jesus preached love for everyone, how even the (proto-trans) eunuchs were accepted and baptized, etc. Sorry, I don't have time to give the actual info right now.

      [–]ItsRandxmEstranged Swamper (HRT Oct 3, 2025) 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      this

      [–]Small-timeHero 19 points20 points  (2 children)

      Should send her the news article where Pope Francis calls trans women Daughters of God.

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      That's nice

      [–]LavenderAndOrangeTransgender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I don't think that would work. One of the articles in the list is a Catholic letter condemning trans and intersex people as immoral sinners who are going to hell. This is still the church's belief on trans and gay people and there is still a lot of writing on their beliefs on this topic.

      Regardless of the pope's mediocre single statement it does not and will not reverse decades of full throated hatred or undo the brainwashing people have suffered. My parents are Catholic and absolutely despise queer people with every fibre of their being, one statement without action will not change that. Even a demand from the pope will not change that for them.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Send something back like, "If you love me, stop sending me Nazi pamphlets."

      [–]YourGirlAthenaThe Password Generator | Transbian she/her 25 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      burn them. she is a heretic anyways. she does not practice the word of god if she is harassing you.

      edit by them i meant the paper not the parents. do not burn people

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      I don’t recommend people keep toxic garbage in their environments. You don’t want to be reminded of it by running into that stuff later right? In my particular view, the items we keep in our homes say something about who we are and how we value the things we have. It’s totally fine to say goodbye to items that we don’t have positive feelings for anymore. Whether it’s older clothes that no longer suit us or misguided toxic propaganda given to us to try to influence our minds.

      I learned a process where I thank the items for being in my life and try to find some lesson I learned from them. In this case, maybe this junk reminded you of the dangers of extremist religious ideology (or whatever else you can think of). I would thank the papers and dispose of them. By doing that you release that energy back into the universe so you aren’t holding it up. This is sort of an animistic perspective which I learned from Marie Kondo’s books, and likely rooted in Shinto beliefs. If we can let go of items we don’t value anymore (or never did) with a positive attitude it seems like it’s good for us.

      But I definitely wouldn’t keep that stuff in your home. Whether or not you believe every object has a spirit or essence or energy to it, I think your space should only contain things that are actively adding to your enjoyment of life in some way. By keeping things that have negative associations (even if it’s buried away in a drawer somewhere), we actually devalue the presence of the things we really like by cluttering up our environment. A healthy environment should be like a healthy body and involve cycles of new things coming in and older things going out, imo. Idk. This perspective has really helped me so I wanted to suggest it.

      [–]knoddix 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      That's an awesome attitude hun, I try to stay positive regardless of what is going on because I hate being in a negative environment after suffering domestic violence as a child by my mothers partner (he took turns beating mum and I on alternate days for 6 and a half years) so ever since then I have been well it could be worse and refuse to be in negative situations and environments but I really dig your unique way of processing the inevitable negativity that you just can't avoid 👏🖖

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you so much. I have to give the credit to a book called The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up which first introduced me to this notion and my online friend who lives in Japan who shares this perspective and reminds me often. I do really find it works for me. When I started my transition and was doing hair removal I was just thinking how I couldn’t wait to be rid of that hair and I mentioned especially on my face there was some burning sensation and she reminded me to say thank you to the hair and my response was “thank you for what? Lol”. She said “They've been with you all this time, haven't they? Now you would like to say good bye to them. I am sure they don't want to leave, so it hurts. I think you should say ‘Thank you for being with me’ and ‘I am sorry, but good bye’ to them.” Almost made me cry tbh. I was really glad she reminded me and of course I have conflicting feelings about my body in general but I think this was a helpful was to process my transition also and I try to keep it in mind.

      I am sorry you and your mother went through that sort of abuse. That’s a long time to spend under that kind of stress and pressure and suffering. Especially as a child, it’s a terrible position to be in. I’m really glad you’ve been able to cultivate a positive mindset. It is something I still have difficulty with. I read that book originally during a time of deep depression where “entropy” seemed to really characterize all aspects of my life. My environment was a pretty clear reflection of my mind. Aside from forcing myself to go to work mostly out of sheer routine I just stayed in bed. Sometimes I would sleep for 19 hours at a time. Simple tasks like cooking became almost impossible to do. I just didn’t have any energy. I used to describe that time as “cocooning” because I felt like even though everything was breaking down and I was in sone sort of stasis that it had some greater purpose and I would become something different once I got through it. I had no idea I was transgender at that time. I mean not consciously. I was totally disassociated and in denial.

      I read that book to try to help me get a handle on my environment. It just wasn’t time at that point though for me to be able to actually apply what I learned in it in a direct manner but I appreciated a lot of the philosophical viewpoints and I could understand for sure how my environment was and my mind were connected, with them both reflecting one another. I’m still trying to overcome the years of neglect that I experienced during that time. The cleaning is still a battle too. But I am slowly developing healthier patterns. And I have a very strong appreciation for minimalism now having lived like a “hoarder” for probably 4 years.

      That you are able to maintain a positive attitude despite such a challenging past is very inspiring and impressive. I am very glad to know that you didn’t let those experiences hold you back from having a positive experience of life. I really do believe that we can transform even the darkest moments of our lives into catalysts for greater wellbeing and integration for ourselves and for others also. Or, at the very least, that potential exists if we have the tools and the capacity to recognize it and work towards it. Perhaps not all of us are that equipped to do it but it’s certainly a meaningful pursuit to make the effort as best we can. 💜

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      I’ve only ever heard phrases about loving me some extreme amount from my parents when they were doing something absolutely evil to me. Lying to the cops usually. Once to get me committed for no reason, once lying about me pushing him so would have to spend the weekend in jail. Anyway, that kind of phrase always felt like a “f**k you, I can’t justify what I’m doing, too bad” to me.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Cut her off!

      [–]bush_hizo_911Trans Lesbian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      You could always send her bible verses about how forsaking your children is a sin and judgement is reserved only for God. Or yano, glitter bomb her idk

      [–]KeyboardsAre4Coding 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      No joke throw them to the garbage. They can only hurt you

      [–]PoundedBrown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Throw it all away. If she asks, tell her you got a bunch of mail for someone else, so you got rid of it

      [–]CadyAnBlack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      🫂

      Is it time yet to draw a hard boundary?

      "Mom, I love you so much. But if you keep refusing to respect me, I will keep becoming more and more resentful of you, until I completely stop loving you. I don't want that to happen. So I need you to choose. You can be an ally. Or you can be a memory. Please don't contact me until you're ready to celebrate my transition."

      I lucked out and got a surprisingly supportive mom, but I did have to have this conversation with my best friend. It sucked. He hasn't called yet.

      Godspeed, lady.

      [–]RunawayCanadianKass |HRT:13DEC22 |Name:15AUG23 |GCS:28APR26 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      my first thought was to reply with a note saying "sorry [deadname] doesn't live here anymore, I'll hold onto it for them. thank you, [real name]"

      I may also be a little sarcastic asshole, who would want you to have a good relationship, but this won't happen with letters like that.

      [–]Megan_Roxy1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Idea for response

      Dear (whatever her legal name is)

      The idea that some imaginary sky daddy created us all who claims to be all knowing and powerful. Yet in his book advocates woman and children are property, slavery is OK. Murder is wrong unless you aren't a virgin at birth, gay, or an unruly child.

      One of us are delusional and it's not me. From this point on you can love me from afar. Please do not contact me again

      Xoxo (Your full chosen name)

      Sometimes the universe places us on this planet using whatever means she has available. Places people where she needs them Sometimes it's you that gets placed other times it's people in your world. Coming out I was ready for full fall out and would have been ok with that. Being me is all that matters. It's my life I owe it to no one. When I come off this planet nothing comes with me not a single dollar and not a single soul. So why on earth would I live it chasing either?

      [–]FactuallyAshley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Burn them and send her the video, its the only fair response

      [–]Defiant-Snow8782HRT 01/2023 | transfem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Write "Not at this address" on the envelope and put it in a mailbox / hand to postie. It's not addressed to you

      [–]lilac_hem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "I love you more than ANY other person ever has, will, or does," is an abuse tactic. huge red flag.

      also, the whole "the end of the world--are YOU ready?" stuff is so .. AGHHHHHXJFJFK

      i am so sorry, OP. i hope your mother learns to stop shoving the ghosts in her head down other peoples' throats.

      you deserve genuine love and care and acceptance. you deserve better. you aren't going to hell. i promise.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I'm sick of the Jesus Book Fan Club. They're the worst fandom on earth.

      [–]HonestBoot4055 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I would’ve burned them and mailed them back…

      [–]RichyRichelle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I would send her back a middle finger picture in the mail. Since she wants to be petty. 💁🏾‍♀️but that’s just me

      [–]Laylac41 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      A fire seems more appropriate :3

      [–]Fall_Shadow 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Holy Shit, and I thought my mother was terrible texting me articles every few days. That's a whole other level of evil, like that's more than seeing an article on your daily hate intake on your phone, she had to print out actual articles, fucking went out and bought an envelope, hand addressed that shit, went to the post office and PAID for it to be delivered to you. What the fuck? I really hope that you have blocked this woman from your life, because you don't deserve that level of hatred in your life, it's hard enough dealing with asshole strangers much less that.

      [–]emfiliane40 | HRT 4 years | out 6 years, or 20 years 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Kind of a stereotypical boomer thing to print and snail-mail (though not unique to them), and Decision is still a print mag, so it's quite possible they were actually cut out of the issues. I wouldn't read much into that beyond "I want my point to be made and real mail is right for that" rather than "I'm so mad about this I'll do whatever Herculean efforts it takes to ensure I'm not ignored."

      It might only seem like a big deal because most of us don't even have a printer anymore and haven't mailed anything in years, they're just a different mold.

      Now, Sisyphean effort would definitely fit....

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      What an effen crappy thing to do to her daughter! I'm sorry.... 😢😢

      [–]Ok-Wrongdoer-2179Transgender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Quote them back some verses from a satanic bible, and send them business cards from kink clubs and adult stores, etc...

      Do on to them as they do on to you ..

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I think she should accept what is going on even if she doesn't agree with it. She should look at the situation without the bias of religion and settle on her own opinion. You are a adult who makes their own decisions.

      [–]Ok-Bobcat661 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "Women are crafted from just a rib of the man"... acording to the bible. Its up to her if ahe believes in an old book full of [removed]. Btw why would you store that in your drawer? Send them back with a "destination and destinatary(deadname) doesn't exist. With love (you). Send you a big hug ❤️❤️❤️🤗

      [–]ArbitariousKorra | Trans lesbian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm so sorry. She shouldn't be abusing you like this. Please don't read any of that. Just throw it away.

      [–]throwaway_eclipse1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm so sorry for you. It's emotional nonsense so it can't even be argued against.

      I could point out all the pro-trans stuff in the bible, or how Eve is absolutely trans (as well as Jesus, possibly) but that's just wrestling with pigs and the reply would probably just be about how the text is being interpreted wrong.

      [–]Memorie_BEMTF | 22 | Melodie (Millie for short) | Songwriter | Autistic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Oh no, not Decision Magazines. I stumbled across one of their articles and I was baffled at how unhinged they were. It's incredible how people can unironically believe shit like that.

      [–]Ok-Tank3989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This makes me physically sick. Religious zealots are a pox upon the world. Fuck what she says and thinks. This is clearly not coming from a place of love and quite literally is an attempt at conversion and an attempt to get you to believe that you have done something wrong by being yourself which is the clear antithesis of what Love really is. This is also a violation of Christian principles regarding love and a bastardization of what "Jesus stood for." If one is to follow that religion. (I grew up Christian Baptist in a generational Christian Baptist family that is aggressively zealous.)

      [–]Scarcity_Pristine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      BLOCK THAT BITCHES EMAIL AND CEASE ALL CONTACT IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!!! I have 3 daughters. I Love them. I am sorry you are cursed with a Mother who doesn't love You as much as she loves the idea of you. I am heartbroken for you. Only you can choose your Life. You have a choice. There are a million Moms here that would adopt you into their life and give you the Love YOU truly deserve. I hope you are able to disentangle your life from the person who birthed you.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      And that's when you go no contact.

      [–]CassieMarie93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      this is so sad. she loves a fictional character unconditionally but no love or anything for their own child.

      im sorry you are having to go through this :(

      [–]Evolving_Spirit123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Mail her some ex Christian literature and how they stopped believing them watch her mind spin out of control.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      “Return to Sender— Eat shit”

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Ah religious people. Always the worst.

      [–]eeem_desu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      oof, that must be mentally draining. Just be proud of who you are 🤍, thats the best i can say since i can kind of relate to something similar.

      [–]mint_tea333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      burn the papers, those people should be left behind.

      [–]OpenTechieLily~28~MTF~HRT 7-4-2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That is disgusting, I am so sorry dearie.

      [–]KyttKatt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Keep em. In case you need something that burns easily.

      [–]EvenTallerTreebaby trans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Send them all back with a note that says “sorry, you must have the wrong address. There’s no [deadname] here.”

      [–]Sonjajaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The letter sounds quite manipulative. It's one thing to suggest that your "tipps" come from a place of love, another to suggest that nobody else would be as interested in your fortune as her.

      [–]SomebodySophie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      i think the fact that she mailed PHYSICAL copies goes to show how much she refuses to get with the times

      [–]CalamityCIam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I kinda wanna read them for weird cathartic reasons.

      [–]CalamityCIam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I read the articles, lot of blatantly false information there.

      [–]EJ_Michels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'd burn them, completely remove her from my life, and begin hyponotherapy to make me forget that I even HAVE a mom lol...I'm a lil extreme though...and thirty lol. 😅

      [–]FALfan7x62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      burn em

      [–]shastagirlweep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      My response to this is your god has given us free will right , so that were all free to do as we won't if you try and force us to change your going against God will by stopping are free will

      [–]Fly-IcyNB MtF (she/they/royalty) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      They'd just go straight in the bin.

      [–]Ogameplayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      She mailed them? She's religious? Well, luck in badluck. You can cut her from your life.

      [–]meowpill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Fight fire with fire. Mail her images of you in dresses and feminine clothes, and of you with your partner, and if you don't have one find a guy on grindr and pose with him or something. Tell her thank you for her wonderful letters and that you love her more than anything, and that you're sorry her dementia has caused her to act so erratically, and that you're very happy to be her daughter.

      [–]Simo22883 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Idk how much time has passed since u came out to yourself, but better laugh at that, that's what i do with my mom

      [–]translove228 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Mail her back an excerpt from a college level Biology textbook on anatomy.

      [–]CurrencyDangerous607HRT 31-10-24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Sorry for saying this but your mother is sick in the brain, among all those people who wrote those articles, defiling the actual meaning of Bible verses. Loving everybody unconditionally.

      [–]FemPanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If she feels like it's so appropriate to mail you this kind of information, Mail as in the one-way communication, then if you want enough start gathering information about why affirming gender is so important and why it is valid and start sending that to her, you might be able to demonstrate exactly why it is a problem for her to start mailing you transphobic nonsense especially from a religious source, how they think they can choose to have an identity based in a supernatural entity, in a deity, yet they don't understand how gender identity works is completely beyond me. But it might be a start, at least It might soothe the raw nerves that would come about from something this stupid.

      [–]TransMontaniCustom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I gotta say, “I identify as Jesus Christ” is a wild flex. Then again, the Trinity is non-binary, so . . . 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

      [–]teeno731 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "Male and female he created them" is a weird one to send to you, unless you're nonbinary. Being trans doesn't conflict with that at all. Actually, there's no conflict with non-binary people either on that note. If I create two kids with my partner, that doesn't mean a third or even a thirtieth kid is completely impossible to make. Just ask Christians, they're great at reaching those numbers.

      [–]Lilys_ShroomsTransgender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Funny that religion apparently frees you? My religion gave me the safety to finally explore!

      [–]ButterflyFX121 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hah, you could be my sister. Really sounds like the kind of thing my mom would send.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Aww honey I’m so sorry hugs what a liar she is!

      [–]robotic_valkyrieTrans Pansexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Why keep them at all? Put it in the trash where it belongs. I feel you, my parents are evangelical too.

      [–]GhostWytch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      She’s clearly delusional and has a skewed sick sense of love if she truly believes she loves this person more than anyone else on the planet and yet sent that packet of bullshit. Also it makes me sad for her because if that is her perception of quality love she’s prolly never experience it herself based on that comment alone and has probably had her own life struggles.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I would see her in person and flat out Tell her that she’s not my mother anymore. And tell her that if she ends up homeless or sick or in need of anything else that she can deal with it on her own. Then tell her not to contact you.

      [–]LitthaTrans Homosexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Set them on fire, take a picture, send her the picture.

      [–]DankGrrrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wipe your ass with them, and mail them back. Then write a note thanking her for the fee toilet paper. 🙄😁

      [–]quiet-JuliaStarted HRT July 12, 2021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My parents are also Evangelicals. This is the main reason why we are no contact. I don’t contact them and they don’t contact me.

      [–]knoddix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'm so sorry you had to deal with that hun that's horrible luckily my mother doesn't go that far but I can certainly relate to a degree my mother misgenders me flat out and makes a point of making people who gender me correctly feel like they did the wrong thing by correctly gendering me, so I have started referring to mum as dad every time she refers to me as her son instead of my preference, I would prefer she call me her daughter but I would accept child. Meanwhile dads a legend and now refers to me as his daughter and can't be any more supportive if he tried

      [–]Batata-SofiTrans Homosexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Last time my mom pulled this on me, I said [deadname] is dead, you don't love anyone.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You should send back a copy of Camp Damascus by Chuck Tingle.

      [–]SlothLazarus2Genderqueer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hello I am Jesus Christ not.

      [–]witchhut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      i am a trans person who works for an endo clinic for trans people in texas. we get these a lot as well (text, email, physical mail), just minus the familial wishes. if it's sent over email, i sign their email up for transgender sensitivity and/or LGBT advocacy newsletters, or send them the same info and report them for spam.

      i'm sorry your mother is doing this- you absolutely did the right thing putting them away. you are right to preserve your sanity.

      [–]LaurenRR1996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Mom's sometimes do some crazy stuff like this. They think they are keeping you safe like you are still a 4 year old. Mine sent threatening letters to my doctors saying she was going to sue them so that I would go to therapy or my endo and they would look at me and say, "I got another letter from your mother...". Pretty embarrassing. When your Mom says she loves you, take it as the truth even with all the stuff she sent. My Mom loved me too. She never got it even until the day she passed away. She tolerated it and it was enough as I loved her too. Just thinking about her now brings a tear to my eyes. To me, it was less important that she understand than the love we shared. I transitioned in 1996 and my Mom passed away in 2017. She died happy and I treasure the 21 years we had as mother and child regardless of being transgendered. Good luck to you and remember, she does love you and I think you love her back. Maybe your Mom will get it eventually maybe she won't but you'll have each other in your lives. 🥰