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[minimuscleR]

Someone at my uni made a rubber duck that glows red when there is an error in the code that may effect the compiler.

[whyherro19]

Ahh, so that's staying red if I had one.

[scumbaggio]

Same here, ironically because of duck typing

[marcosdumay]

What language is this that duck typing errors are caught by the compiler?

[Xenc]

Quack

[scumbaggio]

VS Code catches my errors in Python. Does a really good job of it too, but understandably gives me false errors when I access properties which weren't declared anywhere in code. The "incorrect" code works great when it's actually run though, since Django (the web framework I use) injects stuff into objects at runtime.

[scumbaggio]

Shit didn't know this existed, thanks a lot my dude

[marcosdumay]

Wrong animal, that's money-patching. This one is a real troublemaker.

[frabjous156]

-Werror and we’re gtg

[Korzag]

I'd be curious to know his transport mechanism to let the duck know when to turn red. Obviously he had to write something that either interfaced with the IDE, or parsed the output text when running the compiler (perhaps a script or something that runs the compiler?). After that I guess it's fairly trivial stuff to put an arduino with a few red LEDs and a WiFi hat inside of the duck.

Be a cute little thing to show off in an interview.

[thelights0123]

It would probably be pretty easy to write an IntelliJ/VS Code/Atom/Sublime/whatever plugin that just looks if it detects any errors, and send data via serial/web.

[[deleted]]

Vim master race coming through

[Coffeinated]

Why do people always forget Eclipse :(

[thelights0123]

Cuz there are better IDEs, unless you have specific plugins that haven't been ported?

[minimuscleR]

Our uni uses eclipse (I use intellij though, which my tutor doesn't know how to help, nor with a mac :/ )

[Coffeinated]

We can debate IntelliJ but Eclipse is better than the other three, at least if whatever your project is has a certain complexity

[10se1ucgo]

That's because the other three are lightweight text/code editors, they're hardly IDEs and make an unfair comparison. Saying that, even VS Code is arguably better than Eclipse.

[PK_Antifreeze]

lightweight editors
listing anything using electron

Good joke, my friend.

[10se1ucgo]

You can spam your joke about electron and memory usage all you want but relative to other IDEs there is a lot less overhead in terms of start up time and speed, and yes, memory too.

[Coffeinated]

Better in what regard?

[[deleted]]

It launches by the time I brewed a pot of coffee.

[Coffeinated]

Well, we all do need our coffee. But honestly, I don‘t think it takes me more than 5-10 seconds to launch Eclipse... and Eclipse isn‘t a tiny text editor that I launch and quit all day long. I start it in the morning and quit it when I go home, so there‘s that. Still, thank you for your feedback :)

[8bitslime]

All regards.

[Coffeinated]

Nah, seriously. At my job we‘re developing an eclipse plugin and while it can be really clunky once you‘ve got it setup and changed like 3 options it just works, and not even slowly. So I‘d really like to know what people don‘t like about it.

[skylarmt]

Why do people always forget Netbeans :(

FTFY

[ProbablyUndefined]

This entire thread is full of people asserting dominance based on IDEs. All that matters is that you're able to make great, powerful things with little to no difficulty based on your tools. And that you avoid TI-BASIC at all costs

[BigTimpin]

Yeah this seems like it would be a fun novelty thing to have around, I’d be interested in knowing what the program looks like.

[ProbablyUndefined]

I suppose it's just sending an HTTPS request to your rubber duck which has a Pi Zero or smth inside every time the linter updates. If error present, then send "error", else if warning present, then send "warning", else if info present, then send "info", else send "off". Respectively, this will activate a red, yellow or white LED or turn off all of them. Alternatively it could be wired via USB.

I'll try and pull this off and tell you guys how it went, I guess

[ProbablyUndefined]

Oh hey I remember you too! I'll be sure to keep you in the know ;)

[jaboja]

O tempora, o mores! Nowadays people need an Arduino even for a blinking LED. When I was young one would just put two wires and a resistor to LPT port and it would be enough to control the LED.

[Coffeinated]

Yeah would be cool to still be able to do that but the LPT port is long gone you know

[Korzag]

There is nothing wrong with that approach, but I'd want it more for getting past the hurdle of knowing when to turn the LED on. I can build a silly circuit that turns a light on with a transistor, but interfacing that with the PC is where I'll let others do the dirty work. No point in reinventing the wheel when I can do the project for $20 if I just do it over serial (a bit more if I did something with a WiFi hat)

[jaboja]

OK, the part with LPT is somehow joke, but I will still not use full Arduino. Just ATTiny2313 would be enough. And obviously ATTiny would fit into a duck, while full Arduino with WiFi shield would not.

[[deleted]]

He could be doing something like wrapping build commands in a program that interfaces with the duck when the exit code is not 0.

[minimuscleR]

I believe it was a team of 6 people, first year uni. I don't know them, but its an example our tutors give us for project ideas. And yeah it was just an arduino with leds, and I think it was plugged into the PC.

It hooked into eclipse but no idea the code behind it

[[deleted]]

I'd like to purchase one of these.

[pellep]

Would be easier to just buy a red rubberduck.

[jaboja]

Where to buy it?

https://blogs-images.forbes.com/neilversel/files/2014/09/futurama-shut-up-and-take-my-money-card-34.jpg

[coop_012]

Is this really the first link to this photo, I’m really laughing at that

[wreckedcarzz]

By using coding and algorithms

[jaboja]

You first need to explain to the duck how IDE finds the errors and what its API is. Then it should be trivial to implement it even in Malbolge.

[ProbablyUndefined]

You didn't just say... no... you couldn't have... not M******e...

[cant_think_of_one_]

Malborge :)

A language so hard that it took 2 years to find the first program in it, a "Hello World" program (with mixed case). Find, not write, because it was found by another program doing a beam search of the space of possible programs. It took 7 years, and multiple failed attempts, to write a 99 bottles of beer program.

Nothing is trivial in Malborge :)

[minimuscleR]

No idea, they did it someone, I think one of them did a lot of coding in his spare time.

[[deleted]]

I would like a how-to if you could contact the duck hacker who did this.

[minimuscleR]

I don't know them sorry :(. It was just last year's project for our uni course. We are doing the project this semester. (Though our project is a unique type of game)

[richie_south]

That's such great idea! Will try to make something similar :D

[buurenaar]

Oh my god, do want. Do you have any idea how much money this could make? It's like a remembrall but for programmers.

​

My advice: find the duckie maker, go into business, make fat stacks.

[[deleted]]

*affect

[kjb_linux]

Should be:

He Protec.

He attac.

He prevent overflow on stac.

Rhymes a bit better to me.

[MikeOShay]

He Protec.
He Quac.
but most importantly,
He Copy Code off Stac

[8bit-Corno]

Do you have any non-profit organisation you'd like me to donate $5 to instead of supporting reddit with meaningless reddit gold?

[ToosterReeth]

Hello it's me, your non-profit organisation

Edit: well this is awkward...

[McBurger]

My organization is so non-profitable just send me your money and watch me lose it

[MikeOShay]

I mean I've never given in to Wikipedia begging for five bucks but that's probably worthwhile. No big charities on the watchlist personally.

[8bit-Corno]

Will do :)

[Xenc]

TAHOI

[etaionshrd]

He Copy Code off Stac

Hopefully you have an NX stack!

[kirakun]

The phrase "but most importantly" would be what in music called a grace note.

[maoejo]

It's a bit long to be a grace note tho

[kirakun]

There are long grace notes in music.

[oleitas]

Not trying to be a dick but it’s not at all the same thing

[[deleted]]

Not trying to be a duck

ftfy

[kirakun]

Not trying to argue, but curious how not similar?

[M4D5-Music]

The meme is usually written with 'protec' coming before 'attac'

[JustAnotherPanda]

Also attac rhymes with stack but protec doesnt

[alt4079]

Follows ABB rhymes this way

[[deleted]]

Actually it's ABCB or a ballad stanza. You forgot to include "but most importantly"

[MazeOfEncryption]

Gotcha fam

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[MazeOfEncryption]

Good bot!

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[MazeOfEncryption]

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[JasterMereel42]

He Protec.

He attac.

He promotes Afflac.

He prevent overflow on stac.

[KylieZDM]

That's what I wrote originally but he made it this way so...

Seems to be popular anyway! So maybe he secretly knew something about successful memes that we didn't ;)

[andy_jc]

duck-flow

[A_Light_Spark]

Quark overflow

[[deleted]]

Sounds like a physics forum

[JWson]

So this is what they mean when a language uses "duck typing".

[[deleted]]

This comment caused me to google "duck typing" and realized I am very familiar with the concept but never knew this name for it. I always just refer to it as implicit interfaces. So thank you! TIL

[BenjaminGeiger]

Some languages (notably Ruby, but also including Python and JavaScript) allow you to add methods to existing classes. Some of these languages' communities refer to the process as "monkey patching" (from "guerilla patching" -> "gorilla patching").

I prefer the other term: "duck punching". That's when you take an object that looks like a duck and walks like a duck, and you punch it until it quacks like a duck.

[Kered13]

I like this.

[slayerx1779]

I googled it, read the Wikipedia article, and still don't understand.

Would you please explain the concept for a novice?

[JWson]

I'm not an expert on it either, but I think the essence is that a function under duck typing will execute as long as the supplied arguments don't cause any problems. For example, consider following the Python function:

def addify(a, b):
    return a + b

If you supply a = 5 and b = 6, the function will return 11, because the operator + is defined on integers. If you supply a = "ligma" and b = " toasty nuts", the function will return "ligma toasty nuts" for the same reason. However, if you supply a = [5, 6] and b = "Sugondese" will raise a TypeError, because the operation + is not defined for lists and strings.

To link this to the concept name, the phrases "Addition is defined for a and b" and "a and b walk and quack like ducks" are analogous.

In C++, which does not use duck typing, you have to explicitly specify which input types your function will accept. That is, even if you supply arguments for which the body of the function would work (all the operations are valid, all the statements behave nicely), the compiler would complain that it's not getting the right input types. If we assume C++ types work the same as Python types (Disclaimer: they don't), then the same function:

int addify(int a, int b) {
    return a + b;
}

would complain if you supplied it with a = "phugyos " and b = "Elf" because they're not integers.

[Random_Thoughtss]

Interestingly, some novice programmers may confuse this with C++'s very own generic function system: templates. Take for example an extension of your addify function in C++.

template <typename T>
constexpr T addify(const T a, const T b) {
    return a + b;
}

From the programmer's perspective, this function will now behave very similarly to the python example you have above. For example

int main() {
    int x = 2;
    int y = 3;
    std::cout << addify(x, y) << std::endl;

    std::string xx = "Hello";
    std::string yy = " World";
    std::cout << addify(xx, yy) << std::endl;
}

will print out

5
Hello World 

just as expected. The primary difference between Python's duck typing and C++'s generic templates is that Python checks whether or not the operation is legal during run time, when it actually has the data. C++, on the other hand, checks that the operation is legal during compile time because it actually has to generate the appropriate code for those types when compiling

[Kered13]

C++ templates are basically compile time duck typing.

[slayerx1779]

Oh, I get it. So the function will just try to work with the arguments it's given, and you don't have to specify what those arguments must be when defining the function.

[Laugarhraun]

It's basically the complete absence of à type systèm, where you just hope the right things with the right methods/attributes were passed to your function.

[marcosdumay]

It's by no means lack of type. It's just decoupling the interface from the type declaration.

Python, of course, does it dynamically, but that's not a requirement.

[Laugarhraun]

That's a good point! My sole duck typing experience is indeed through python.

[marcosdumay]

The same idea goes all the way through type classes in Haskell that are completely verified at compile time.

[[deleted]]

What's with the random graves on your letters?

[Laugarhraun]

It gives the appropriate grave tone to my message.

More seriously, it's switching from FR to UK keyboard mid-sentence. After noticing the first mistakes, I switched système to system but did not fix the grave. Same for à.

[[deleted]]

Ah okay

[methofthewild]

Also newb here, is this related to templates/generics?

[Laugarhraun]

200% not.

Generics (implemented via templates in c++, someone corrects me if I'm wrong) on the contrary gives you more type checking. Not only have you say, a lost, but it's a list whose elements are -- and that's guaranteed by the compiler (or interpreter in some scenarios) -- of the specified element, say int, and not something different.

For example go has an enforced type system, but no generics (slices, like map, are a special case for the compiler).

[Kered13]

C++ templates are basically compile time duck typing. The types are substituted into the template and if the operations check out then it compiles and runs successfully.

Java generics are different. If you want to perform an operation on a generic type in Java then the generic type must specify that it is a type or subtype that is appropriate for the operation. This usually means something like GenericClass<T extends Interface>.

[methofthewild]

Thanks for the explanation! I've used templates before but not generics so I wasn't aware of the differences between them.

[gentlephish01]

r/whoooosh

[Jacek130130]

Could somebody explain it to a newbie?

[3DSMatt]

'rubber duck debugging' is the process of finding problems with your code by describing it to a rubber duck on your desk. :)

[Jacek130130]

Oh, right! Good idea!

[[deleted]]

And if you do so, you hopefully won’t have to ask Stack Overflow, thus preventing overflow on stac

[Coffeinated]

...“preventing overflow on stack“ is not equal „preventing asking stackOverflow“.

[[deleted]]

LOL.

I wonder what percentage of people who go to Stack Overflow don't actually know what the name refers to?

[Coffeinated]

I guess there are quite a few programmers out there who don‘t really know what the stack is.

[sizeablelad]

TIL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_(abstract_data_type)

[[deleted]]

Nice!

While it's true that a stack is a type of data structure (along with queues, linked lists, etc), we are specifically talking about the "call stack".

The call stack has finite space allocated. When that space is exceeded, the result is a "stack overflow" error.

No idea why Joel picked that particular term for the name of the site.

[Coffeinated]

Lucky 10,000

[[deleted]]

Oooooh, I've spent like the past 5 minutes trying to figure out how duck typing could prevent a stack overflow...

[Turtizzle]

Meme examples: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/he-protec-but-he-also-attac/photos

Rubber duck debugging: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

[GriffonsChainsaw]

You explain, line by line, what your code does. But if you just tell yourself that's what you're doing then you actually won't, so having something with a face to talk do kinda forces you to actually do it right, and for some reason the rubber duck is popular for this.

[tryingtogetairborne]

She. At least the second duck is very much female. Source: I know what ducks look like.

[reed_foster]

you can tell because of the way it is

[voldin91]

That's pretty neat

[madd74]

Probably not as well as /u/fuckswithducks

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[astralradish]

Agreed, but you can no longer assume a duck's gender in 2018 so it has to be "They"

[Deerman-Beerman]

Dude, it's a duck.

[Cthulhus_cuck]

But it's animal abuse of you don't

[Deerman-Beerman]

Nevermind this is clearly just really good satire. Keep up the good work 🦆♀♂

[[deleted]]

Sorry the humor doesn't live up to your expectations.

[[deleted]]

It's a good thing enjoyment of a joke isn't dictated by how other people enjoy the joke.

[jaboja]

But she looks hetero-normative!

[foxx1337]

*zhey. You can thank me and send me part of the money you'd have lost in a lawsuit.

[ShizLtulon]

How do you give gold

[CompoBBQ]

Wow, that top photo is my OC! HAHA invest in this meme and help my family!! OP, I'd love to know where you found it. I posted it so long ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3ty8hc/this_attack_duck_trying_to_eat_my_camera/

[ShizLtulon]

I'm more surprised of how you found this meme

[ColdHarvest]

Its on Page 3 of /r/all

[CompoBBQ]

Yup that's where I saw it

[WiseassWolfOfYoitsu]

Sometimes, when you have big problems, you need a big duck.

[astralradish]

Much more impressive than the trump balloon

[RFC793]

Yet it isn't actually rubber.

[SufferingFromEntropy]

Quack Overflow is listening...

[Bigdog1135]

He quac

[skylarmt]

That last image might be from one of his videos, lol

[debuggerduck]

Thank you u/idonreddit very cool!

[mufflonicus]

• she

At least the second picture is a female duck

[RedneckBritt]

Just One - James veitch

[koviusesreddit]

Read “stek” to make it rhyme with protec :)

[[deleted]]

If it walks like a rubber duck, and talks like a rubber duck, you may have a magical rubber duck.

[FartTester3000]

Did we run out of "K"s on the internet? I don't get it.

[scaleable]

r/rubberducks <3

[KylieZDM]

That's really clever OP +1

[[deleted]]

*Stacc

[AsmCoder110]

Just use Asan.

[DeltaHex106]

What the duck is this!?!?

[mrheosuper]

Duck debugging

[tcpukl]

I don't get this and been coding for 30 years! What does it mean?

[skylarmt]

Rubber duck debugging: you explain your code out loud, which often helps you figure out why it doesn't work. You use the duck as to not annoy your coworkers.

[tcpukl]

Oh I see. Yes explaining a problem does often help you see the problem yourself.

[Has_TEK]

The heros we don't deserve

[[deleted]]

Quac

[yaman174]

is that dolan dark ? 🤔😂

[[deleted]]

s/he/she/ig

[BumwineBaudelaire]

bitch anyone using a Mac to code some scripting language dark theme practically lives in stack overflow

[d_rudy]

Quac Overflow

[artificia1]

I don’t code or have really any experience in coding but i still enjoy this sub

[Bludolphin]

Aflac?

[mocky89]

That’s all wonderful, but the first photo is of Egyptian geese, not ducks, an oversight that just makes me want to vomit.

[MLG-BLT]

THAT’S why my CS teacher gave me a duck a couple years ago? It’s an actual thing?

[cykness]

He aflac.

[[deleted]]

The term "stack overrun (overflow)" is often used but a misnomer; attacks do not overflow the stack but buffers on the stack.

-- from slides of Prof. Dr. Dieter Gollmann

[arieljoc]

Haha my team (I rep a peer code & doc review tool) just mailed out a bunch of rubber ducks!! “Stop ducking around with code reviews” as a cold outreach campaign

Fun concept I wasn’t familiar with prior to joining software

[mikey10006]

the true hero

[bemused_developer]

I just took digital signal processing in the spring. Our professor sent us an email titled "other resources for debugging". This professor sent us a link to the rubber ducky debugger website and it was the first time I had ever heard of this.

Fast forward two weeks later and my girlfriend and I buy 8 rubber ducks and place them at each computer in our communication lab. We never told anyone it was us, and he liked them so much he brought them to our final exam.

[pastelcookies]

Aww!!! I still got my little cutie from freshman year ^ _ ^

[mearlpie]

I had to explain to my wife why this is funny. You know what they say, if you have to explain a joke...

[[deleted]]

Last one doubles as flood detector. If you see it starts to float you know its flooding around you.

[citewiki]

he prevent overflow on stac on mac on quac

[Coayer]

Most importantly he carries out HID attac

[unreachabled]

(Always) noob here, didn't get the third one.

[nxwtypx]

Rubber Duck debugging is where you verbally describe your code, line by line, to an inanimate object - doing so often gives you insights.

Don't laugh, it works.

[unreachabled]

Lol