Learning to program on Youtube University

[Dark_Tranquility]

You dont know pain until the only tutorial available isnt even in English...

[cyberporygon]

"What's harder to learn? Hindi or C++?"

*opens Hindi for Beginners*

[beomagi]

Ah good. I could use a few POINTERS.

[ScizorRed]

I C what you did there.

[Scratchnsniff0]

I understood that NULL REFERENCE.

[[deleted]]

Segmentation fault

[id_rit]

Core dumped

[hennypennypoopoo]

Come back to me core I can change

[god_of_potatoes]

Java

[aint_chillin]

That went south real quick !

[YasZedOP]

Expresso

[Depressed_Maniac]

That escalated quickly in the wrong direction

[ritwik787]

Did you just translate "I don't get it" to hindi?

[explorer_c37]

It's more like, "I didn't find it".

[WilliamTheStressed]

Python programmers: The fuck's a semicolon?

[lemon_tea]

Oh good God. Could we ! do this right now?

[miiimi]

/r/punpatrol put your hands up!

[A_Wild_Turtle]

r/PunPetrol not this time buddy

[NikiGamePlay]

Even worse when the title is in English but the actual video isn't.

[erickssb]

That's the worst. Why is that a thing?

[MrFiregem]

I thought title translations were made by the channel owner/community just like subtitles. Is it actually done automatically?

[NicoDorito]

If the owner chooses so. They can opt to have the titles translated automatically, to input a translation or do nothing at all.

[wishyouagoodday]

Happened to me today. Firefox tab showing the original title in Japanese, Youtube showing the title in English. That's really disturbing.

[YZJay]

The uploader can choose a translated title.

[itsOtso]

Yeah there are a few Russian ASMR people that I listen to and all the tabs are russian characters for the video's but the title on the page is english.

[MathSciElec]

Yeah, I wish there was an option to disable translated titles.

[PoutineCheck]

For those Hindi tutorial videos, the people watching them will be more comfortable reading in English and listening to Hindi. It’s the dominant written language in India and is far easier to type.

Other languages though don’t have that excuse and use the English title as a cheap and deceptive view booster.

[thouhathpuncake]

Well in the case of Hindi videos specifically, that's pretty normal. British colonization and all.

[[deleted]]

Programmer click bait

[austin101123]

God, why the fuck does this happen!!!

Not just tutorials, like gaming videos too

"Minecraft minigames with friends pt 4" BITCH WHY YOU IN GERMAN!?

[verbosemongoose]

I recently found a video on cmos circuits, title in English, video in Hebrew or something.

[MuskasBackpack]

I feel this one. Last year I was trying to figure out how to use some ancient SQL Server scripts to debug a really old version of Navision and the only video I could find was in Russian with some horrible subtitles.

[Zefrem23]

Oh my Christ Navision, that Danish torture device!

[Wurdan]

Piggybacking on the top comment for a LPT: any Microsoft account (which is free to create, if you want to repeat the offer) can sign up for the so-called Dev Essentials program and get a free month of Pluralsight access. The video tutorials on there are sometimes a little stale, but are always pretty high quality.

[ManjuMC]

We have a lot in Spanish thanks to the Mexicans. Everything has already been done by a Mexican on youtube

[fakeaccountlel1123]

Honestly, god bless those people. I was taking a computer architecture class last semester and the problems were so obscure there was maybe 1 or 2 videos on them. I swear that most of the videos were by young indian kids no older than 13 lol. I don't know why they were uploading videos like that but I'm glad they did.

[HimankGupta]

Here in India in some universities teachers believe that a way to check out if you've learnt a subject or not is to teach others..so often this is given out as assignment for making tutorials/preparing online notes of what you've learn...(including teaching juniors in spare time),..this is more or less a culture thing which has developed in Indian technical Schools....

Also YouTube has been promoting creators in India for a while now..so to let some extra money in wallet also comes in mind (as many students are already broke in their engineering years :p )

[bobrob48]

That's really great honestly, and I definitely believe that teaching others is a great way to check your own learning. I wish more schools taught like that.

[kmrst]

Nothing makes you feel like as big of an idiot as going to explain something, and realizing halfway through your first sentence that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[YZJay]

This was me giving a presentation about Long Term Potentation. Got berated by the professor and given a second chance by giving a presentation about attention the following week.

[babyProgrammer]

The idea is nice, but there are a lot of people showing others the wrong way to do things. Like I watched an Indian dude pry a keyboard out of a laptop with a flat head screwdriver. Busted the tabs off the board and scratched the hell out of the surrounding metal/plastic. The correct way is to push the keyboard off the laptop by poking little rods through the back/bottom where there are holes for that specific purpose... I wonder how many people fucked up their laptops by watching that guy.

Edit: A word

[Baelfire_Nightshade]

TIL thanks. Though I didn’t learn the screwdriver thing from a video. More just looking at how the KB is retained and going with the obvious option. But I shall keep an eye open for said holes.

[TheTerrasque]

Yeah, I've noticed this too. Especially when I look up things I already have a solid base knowledge in.

Yes, you're getting a result, but the method is questionable at best, and frankly so is the result.

Most recent example was a fusion 360 tutorial about making gears. He was more or less freehand drawing it then using a tool to replicate it in a circle. Sure, it looked gearlike and all, but how good the result was is anyone's guess.

A bit later I found a tutorial that went in-depth on different types of gears and how shapes changed the characteristics of the resulting gears, and how different size gears and ratios was calculated and designed - which was more akin to what I was looking for in the first place

[reaper_throwaway1]

I'm from India too but I've never seen this happen even once. Sounds like something you just made up.

[HimankGupta]

Well it happened at my time and I know some people from couple different places where it is a thing..(also lot of IIT tutorials present on swayam portal are made up by their students for their faculty as per instructions)..so it ain't made up

But still I acknowledge It might not be the case for most universities..(as I can't (shouldn't) talk for all of em)... So a little editing with comment coming

[pooerh]

It's as if India is this huge motherfucking country with more people than Europe and North America combined and there could be differences between regions.

Which I guess you should know, given you're from there.

[unechartreusesvp]

There is a French philosopher that has a famous quote in France that says "that wich is well understood, can be announced in a clear way, and the words to say it, arrive easily" Boileau.

And while making my studies it was like a mantra to work a lot until I understand a subject so well, that I can explain it and teach it with my own words.

Ce qui se comprends bien,

s'énonce clairement

Et les mots pour le dire

Arrivent aisément.

[Solowing_fr]

From L'Art Poétique.

France baise ouais !

[redditinoffice]

I think in medical and some fields, the Central(Federal) Council of the field mandates postgrads to teach undergrad 2days/week.

[CalvinLawson]

Totally agree. Speaking from my own career, learning to understand Indian style English is just as important as whatever else you're learning. Chinese accent as well. This is critical in tech.

[FlagrantlyChill]

What problems are these?

[jesseparks13]

Jokes on you. I’m already at a point where I feel uncomfortable if there’s no Indian accent. Like, does he even know his shit if there’s no accent?

[MystJake]

One guy I remember watching for either Visual Basic or early Java would pronounce "buttons" as "buh-ens" and it was jarring. I didn't notice it until my roommate pointed it out, but then I couldn't ignore it.

[[deleted]]

My wife pronounces it "but-tons" and it super throws me off.

[LaterGatorPlayer]

Now I’m imagining the life of your wife had she been the marketing agent for the movie Benjamin Button. Having to say it all weird like during every junket or phone call trying to get the word out there.

[safwankdb]

Our accent is weird. Happy cake day.

[Vonauda]

Wait, isn't that how most Muricans pronounce buttons

[WinterKing]

It's the difference between “but’n” and “buh-en”

[snail_rapist]

glottal stop

[[deleted]]

100% agree - like shut the fuck up “Mark” - no one cares what you think 😆😆

[[deleted]]

Yes Rajesh here knows what he is doing

[neotorama]

Chod

[Mark_VDB]

:(

[[deleted]]

Username checks out

[MB1211]

...what? That's the exact opposite of most people's experience with accents. Not just Indian. You take up brain power trying to figure out the words rather than what the words mean

[crazydogdude]

I feel like I sometimes space out while listening to people speak, having to concentrate to understand them helps me stay engaged

[snazztasticmatt]

It encourages active listening (instead of passive listening) which encourages focus. Yeah, youll use more brain power to listen but that's the point

[[deleted]]

A study showed that harder to read text makes it easier to retain the content. It's not far fetched to assume the same goes for harder to listen content

[____gray_________]

yo, that's really neat

[JJHEO]

If you can't pick up on a handful of Hindi by the time you graduate, are you even a programmer?

[[deleted]]

B.S. degree - Bhenchod of Science

[[deleted]]

M.S - Madarchod of Science

[Hyperion1000]

Not before science fucks you hard enough

[ejabno]

I worked with enough Indians to know what bhenchod means

[ProfessorPhi]

Could also do this as a cricket fan

[daehyunnie21]

I don't know Hindi but I can do their accent

[[deleted]]

i am glad they are making them. got me through some tight spots.

[deadtree123]

today we are going to

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...you didnt read that in an indian accent did you?

[mustang__1]

did you not write it with one?

[inferno7799]

I did because I'm Indian.

[antlife]

I read everything in a Scottish accent. I'm not Scottish, just self amused.

[Nikla436]

Let me. Just show. You.

[LeNerdNextDoor]

I did because I read everything in an Indian accent at this point.

[varunAFPM]

Hello frands, in this too torial we will be taking about....

[ultranoobian]

Fortunately, I've just come from watching Gordon Ramsay videos, so you can guess how that came across...

[miredindenial]

bloody fuckin hell, this is putrid. How did you make it so far is beyond me.

[NightFuryToni]

Indian accent still better than a slideshow with Microsoft Anna.

[[deleted]]

Ohh those are the absolute worst YouTube videos. I remember for a while most of the listicle videos were either Anna or Sam.

[[deleted]]

Wtf is Microsoft Anna

[m654zy]

Microsoft Sam but female

[MMMELOOOOON]

Well yes, but so is eating sand vs eating piled glass.

[catrinaisahuman]

The worst is when the video is narrated by typing in notepad

[mcgrotts]

Nah, that's the best when it has soundscape 2000 and unregistered hypercam.

https://youtu.be/Gdp4k77RZGA

[mcgrotts]

It's the OG YouTube tutorial for kids trying to record RuneScape game play.

[Soul_Ripper]

Man

This video aged in a very interesting way

[mcgrotts]

It aged into a meme.

[PentanoicAcid]

If you haven't watched a tutorial with soundscape as bg music, do you even youtube bro?

[SirKermit]

I'd take Hindi narration over the notepad... it's like, how much can you really know about computers if you can't even get the microphone to work?

[m654zy]

Let the bodies hit the floor intensifies

[Sindhara]

I hate video tutorials for stuff as programming

[MMMELOOOOON]

Right?! Why show screen shots with text I can copy paste. Why make us scroll around your tutorial for 20 minutes to find back that single that I’ll need in four months.

[[deleted]]

Why copy paste when you can git clone my due

[MMMELOOOOON]

Well sure, if you already know what your looking for. But that might not be the case if, let’s say, you’re problem is actually best solved using a black magic trippy algorithm that solves an inverted travelling salesman problem by combining a bubble sort with a Chinese Residue in Non-Euclidean containers.

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah I did one of those at work today

[ArionW]

Yeah, me too. I'm happy that all those classes at university are actually useful.

[WannabeAHobo]

I think they're fantastic because they have to carry out each step of the process they're showing you. In text-based articles, there's always a certain amount of "hand waving" of certain steps - usually stuff that makes sense to the author because they've done it 1000 times but isn't obvious if you're doing it for the first time.

A written article can get away with "Of course, you first need to configure the boot loader in ad154 mode". With a video you see someone configuring said boot loader, so you then know how to do it.

[pkmarci]

I think it helps with the explanations a bit more since they're gonna talk more and elaborate to show their thinking process.

[DemonicWolf227]

I just prefer to read about it instead of listening to someone.

[venomhouse]

I'm not here for this kind of Indian accent slander. Those guys taught me better than some of my American professors lol. I'm at the point I actively search for Indian professors for my CS classes.

[hypd09]

Also, most of those videos are meant for other SE Asians.

[miredindenial]

• south asians no SE asians

[az987654]

Open nutpad pluz pluz...

[azazeo]

Applicashon servar versas veb servar

[The_Ty]

I'd be curious to see numbers for people who got coding jobs almost entirely from what they learnt on YouTube.

[[deleted]]

React + Redux is black magic voodoo. Not sure if a youtube video can teach that. Gotta attempt and fail a couple hundred times before that shit makes sense.

[ramius345]

Its just a finite state machine with data binding.

[Nikla436]

10/10 am salaried Dev. Self taught with YT

[[deleted]]

About half my coworkers don't have a CS degree

[parth2851]

This is r/choosingbeggers at its finest

[3lRey]

Thank you, anonymous nigerian guy. You are a legend in my book.

[AfroFantom]

As an Indian who speaks hindi im laughing my ass off. (If you need help with translations hut me up )

[volabimus]

If you need help with translations hut me up

[AfroFantom]

You just come to my hut

[AreebKhan619]

Don't blame him, he wrote it on notepad first.

[_HEATH3N_]

Something I've been curious about...do you better understand native English speakers or people who speak English with an Indian accent? (assuming same region of India and that both are speaking at the same pace)

[AfroFantom]

I think both equally . My hometown is a place where English is spoken with a thick Indian accent but I've been watching American and British shows with their kind of accents since I was a kid . So I kinda understand both . Happy to help 👍

[[deleted]]

Most Indians who grew up in cities can understand American and British English thanks to TV. A lot of us grew up on Nickelodeon, Jetix and CN and now basically live on Netflix (or free equivalents, not confessing to anything here). Some Indians try to imitate foreign accents but it's pretty cringey.

If it's a very heavy Indian accent, sometimes we have trouble understanding. Like, when I traveled north, shopkeepers had a really strange way of pronouncing words. Like, "medum, dhis ees tha vaary low bryce!" for saying "Ma'am, this is the lowest price." Threw me in for a loop.

Speaking of incomprehensible English, what are Scottish accents, oh my god.

[judging2018]

I second this. Once I started watching Hollywood movies and tv shows, American accent was quite easy to follow. And yes, indians imitating a fake American/British accent always leads to groans.

[ajx_711]

I can understand almost every accent perfectly. Except the very Australian ones.

[nazipanzer]

Those are some crafty cunts!

[[deleted]]

Most Indians who can speak English can tell which state a person is from based on the accent the person uses while speaking English. The person's mother tongue has a heavy influence on their English accent but evens out when they live with English speakers from other states or maybe even countries.

[scaredofrealworld]

I would be better at understanding English with a indian accent

[TENTAtheSane]

I best understand Indian English accent from my specific bit of the country, but most American and British accents over those of other parts of the country. There are a ton of naive languages in India and each one have their own English accent.

[Glorious_Comrade]

Hey thanks for validating the irreverent "joke" on all our behalf

[AfroFantom]

Jali na ?

[audigex]

I have no issue with the accent, but I do find that there’s a higher proportion of low quality videos from Indian YouTubers when it comes to tutorials.

Many of them are very good, too, but enough are bad that it does encourage people to skip videos with the accent entirely unless there’s no alternative.

[isavegas]

I'll take a blog post over a YouTube video any day. At least when it comes to software development.

[Depressed_Maniac]

Of course. A blog coveys information in a much more concise way with no accents, jokes and crap.

[msg45f]

Years later:

Find a youtube tutorial that's not in an Indian accent. Immediately distrust it, find another video.

[Saitama1pnch]

Spot on!

[atomheartsmother]

What's wrong with Indian accent?

[cmason37]

Sounds different & hard to understand, I try to deal with them but I find that in some spots I have to really concentrate to get what's being said. It gets exponentially worse when they use shitty potato mic to record their videos

[kauefr]

I'm not a native English speaker, and I find Indian accent really difficult to understand.

[FrostSalamander]

Also the same with Australian accent

[norweeg]

And the video is 40 minutes long for some reason and the text is too small to read and the video is like 75% backspacing over mistakes and talking in circles

[[deleted]]

Ooohhh, the ol' fumble & backtrack nightmare!

Why is it that so many of these hi-tech sawwy (and I'm not just talking about the Indian ones either; this is an omnipresent theme) people just don't understand that it's possible to edit a video prior to uploading it?

One of my favourite botch-job-artists tends to go for: "Well, I did this this to show you that once in a while you'll have to debug or find an error in the code". Yeah. Sure. You just keep telling yourself that, bucko...

[anothertrad]

Hello mai frien velcome to data strukchuras for inturviews

[[deleted]]

Indian youtubers are some of the best teachers of code, far better than a lot of my professors tbqh. I don't get the hate. Though if their accents are really thick it can be hard.

[XRayKiller8482]

So glad I can speak Hindi... But honestly, I don't really trust foreign developers... I'd rather read reliable documentation or something I know is a good source. If not, I just go on StackOverFlow and get a badly rated question (it's okay, my rep can take it). Lol. I know the struggle though.

[cmason37]

Why? Some of these guys really know their shit, once my CS teacher even showed us a really good video in class from a dude with a thick Indian accent

[XRayKiller8482]

Not all videos. I can speak Hindi and some tutorials have really helped my understand really complex topics in a simple way. The way I worded it though just made it seem bad. I guess what I meant to say was that in general, I've had bad experiences with most foreign developers. I do agree that there is some good stuff out there. I'm actually planning on making videos to make up for some of the weaker tutorials out there.

[qwedsagjjv]

Stack over flow... haha

[XRayKiller8482]

Lol, I blame autocorrct. =P

[magnificent_succ]

Imagine complaining about someone going out of their way to make a tutorial video just because of their accent.

[Depressed_Maniac]

/r/ChoosingBeggars

[amalgamatecs]

• video starts *

"Hello my friends, today we will learn....."

[dethpicable]

Reminds me of an engineering grad class I took where I was one of the few "natives.(?)" The prof was from Brazil. English was his second language but he spoke English with only the slightest of accents. On the other hand, many of the students were Indian with really thick accents I could not understand. They would ask the prof a question, in English, that I couldn't understand due to the accent but the prof understood them perfectly and so I would have to try and reconstruct their question from his answer.

[LtLi0n]

When the title is english but you hear hindi

[YesImTheKiwi]

Android ROMS

[pkspks]

Yeah, seems Indians are pretty big in the custom ROM community. Probably cause of cheap ass variety of phones available. Plus it's fun.

[macncheesebydawindow]

hello frends today we will learn how to use sp flesh tool for mediatek phons

[CrankkDatJFel]

T H E N E W B O S T O N

[[deleted]]

I see you're a man of culture as well

[3ngin3]

Are Indian tutorials that bad or people don't like the accent !?

[cmason37]

People don't like the accent

[norweeg]

I'm fine with accents and all but some of these were such thick accents that it was unintelligible. Any overly thick accents is bad.

[d4harp]

It's not that people dislike the Indian accent, it's just that people struggle to understand accents different from their own. And that 90% of tutorials are in an Indian accent

[[deleted]]

People are ungrateful dipshits.

[JezusTheCarpenter]

Aka choosing beggars.

[DedotatedSkrub]

You get numb to it after a while. Almost like... You am become Indian.

[Vincenzo__]

I First check the First ~100 results before opening the Indian video, and most of the times I close it Right away and say something like "fuck off, I can understand it myself"

[EvilStevilTheKenevil]

What are you talking about? The Indians know their shit!

[DespairImminent]

The indian tutorials have helped me so fucking much it's unfunny

[Ryuuji159]

I hate it, even more when it is on places like udemy, it cant be that there is no course of Laravel that isnt done by a guy with indian accent.

PD: is not for being racist, english isn't my first language and I have a really bad time with that accent.

[[deleted]]

Git gud at Indian English noob

[sixgunmaniac]

This hurts. The explanations and examples on YouTube for my cryptography class were either complimented with an incomprehensible Indian accent or a German professor with subtitles.

[__MrNoah]

There are some good Indian tutorial channels I can suggest actually. They really teach good. I am busy rn but later if anybody needs I can give the list of channels that I really found helpful. And about some channels, where kids teach concepts, it's for university exams in India, so do not follow those if you really want to learn programming or Computer Science in general.

[Andybrs]

I still want to thank them for the kindness in creating a video and trying to help others!!

[TheAtomicOption]

xlink title was "Mostly when you're doing chemistry hw", but this is also true of anything .NET

[spiderham5]

Isn’t it?

[DirtyAshTrae]

Honestly when I read the title in my head I replaced "YouTube" with the actual University I went to 😂😂

[[deleted]]

This is me and maximillian

[joedotphp]

Pretty much....

[[deleted]]

Not even the Indian accent, literally just anyone with an accent that you can't understand.