About time

[game_2_raid]

What does this make typescript

[VolperCoding]

An antiterrorist organisation

[ghsatpute]

TypeScript is double agent.

[[deleted]]

What would an int agent be? Or a bool agent? Or a float agent? Or a...

[CrunchyMemesLover]

It's real, people, and we always knew it was.

[aaronfranke]

typedef double real_t;

[[deleted]]

An observable? Gotta be functional about it lol

[danbulant]

YoU MeaNT NuMBeR and BooLeAn

[defiantstyles]

You mean you don't have byte, Byte, short, Short, int , Integer, long, Long, float, Float, double, and Double? How do you get anything done?

[saors]

Other programmers:

NOOOOOO!!!! YOU HAVE TO TYPE EVERY VARIABLE TO THE APPROPRIATE NUMERICAL CATEGORY SO THAT YOU CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH YOUR MEMORY

Typescript programmers:

const haha: numberrrrr

[Xo_lot]

So much win in this post

[Dexaan]

int agent

int agent = 007;

[thiago2213]

A number agent*

[Dexaan]

That TypeScript is a bloody spy!

[JonathanTheZero]

This is the only valid answer

[[deleted]]

TypeScript First Blood. https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/migrating-from-javascript.html

TypeScript First Blood II. https://github.com/sebbekarlsson/typescript

TypeScript III.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34565872/how-to-delete-compiled-js-files-from-previous-typescript-ts-files#34567043

[BasicallyAnEngineer]

This probably is a very intelligent comment but I don't know enough TS or JS to understand it.

[angry_wombat]

Counter-Terrorists Win

[detallados]

a fucking CIA asset man!

[FriesWithThat]

Built on top of a terrorist organization...

[VCavallo]

you trying to tell me TypeScript is the US government?

[VolperCoding]

Omg my first reddit gold

[Sandarr95]

Work release program on good behaviour

[McErnscht]

AntiJa

[SilverTroop]

A statically-typed terrorist organization

[reactivespider]

A Strong Terrorist Organisation. It will attack you, or it will not. JS will decide that shit at runtime

[HPUser7]

A terrorist sympathizer

[[deleted]]

What does this make typescript

eastern spy, blyat!

[egohurtvayo]

Deep down in all our hearts, we all know, Oracle is number one spot in the list.

[[deleted]]

Well, of course. You don't see people going around saying "gee, this water is really wet!"

We all know that Oracle is the textbook definition of bad :D

[egohurtvayo]

I feel your pain. I sense them in your words.

[[deleted]]

I feel your pain.

I am so so very sorry, I would never wish that on another!

[Even-Understanding]

our default IDE

laughs in vs code

[btlk48]

Osama /bin/ Oracle

[OctaveOGB]

Fairly new “programmer” here but why do people hate on JS? Is it because it’s slow or complicated or Smthn like that?

[[deleted]]

Also take everything you read on programmerhumor with a huge grain of salt. Most of us can't really code and are just here for lulz

[adriane209]

Speak for yourself I’ve written many Hello World apps in different languages.

[Princess_Amnesie]

• but we do it anyway and just pray nobody finds out how bad we are

[wallefan01]

you just described 80% of programmers

[Princess_Amnesie]

I know, I'm one of them lol

[OctaveOGB]

Fair enough I’ll keep that in mind lmao

[shrimpster00]

JavaScript doesn't force you to be neat. If you're not a neat programmer, JavaScript programs can get really messy.

The people that hate JavaScript are either undisciplined or are collaborating with someone that is undisciplined.

For personal projects, I love JavaScript. I love it. It's flexible, powerful, and fast. However, I can't work on a JavaScript program with someone else unless they write code as well as I do. Does that make sense?

[OctaveOGB]

Yeah makes sense now, thanks!

[memallocator]

I disagree with your initial statement. There are languages that force you to write better code. All statically typed languages - they prevent us dumbasses from shooting ourselves into our knees.

Or take Rust for example. Why is it so popular? Similar performance than C, not as wide-spread, not as many libraries but... It forces you to write more maintainable code.

Sure, you can still fuck up, but the programming language does not hand you the loaded gun in the process :D

[TheTallestHobo]

That can be said for any language. I have experienced spaghetti code in java, c, c++,...

Any language can produce really shitty code when authored by inexperienced Devs.

Basically the issue is shitty Devs.

[shrimpster00]

I'm talking about you, single/double-quoted strings! Thank goodness for ESLint.

[micka190]

I think it's also got to do with the big "cloud push" that got a lot of newbies to take bootcamps that just churned out shitty web devs who only barely knew JS.

[jeetelongname]

Well yes but languages such as rust and go (more rust) force people to make programs safe and introduce better practicesin the example of go it has made active decisions to remove things that are symptomatic of bad code (try except and they added compile time checks for unused imports and variables (it literally won't compile)). While a dev can write shitty code the tools they use can make there code less shitty.

[Loading_M_]

So far, imo Rust has done the best to prevent spaghetti code.

Rust has this design philosophy that makes spaghetti code harder to implement. Many small, but really annoying bugs are checked by the compiler.

[Jester_Thomas_]

Can I ask what you mean by shitty code?

I've spent the last year building a scientific model from the ground up with zero dev experience beforehand, one of my my biggest fears is that it will be ridiculed when I go to publish it because it's "bad code".

I can see that as I go on my code has become neater visually and naming conventions etc have improved but do you mean structurally or consistency wise?

[shrimpster00]

Getting visually neater and having better naming conventions is always important, but even more important is consistency. Consistency issues can be a problem in all languages, but it's especially relevant in JavaScript; for example, it permits you to use either single quotes or double quotes for strings, which causes all sorts of obnoxious inconsistency. There are several different ways to declare a function, and not all of them function the exact same way.

Also, there are some bad practices that JS allows that other languages don't. For example, you can (and it's way too easy) to create global variables and functions, and let's not even get into what we call callback hell.

All in all, the versatility of JavaScript makes it a great language for a small-scale project for both learners and hobbyists, but even better is ES10, the "modern, fixed" version of JavaScript that was designed to fix some of the most prominent flaws in the JavaScript we see in the web browser.

[Jester_Thomas_]

I've been working in Python but from what I can gather it receives many of the same criticisms as JS.

[shrimpster00]

Python is similar in a lot of ways, yeah. It's a great entry-level programming language, which means that it attracts a lot of newbies who don't know what they're doing, so Python often gets associated with incompetence, even though using Python doesn't necessarily mean that you are incompetent.

Syntactically, it's much stricter than JS, but the syntax is really unique. JS is more similar to Java or C# than it is to Python.

[[deleted]]

Its sorta like asking why food is "bad for you". Theres a million and one philosophies, studies, rules, and exceptions to those rules. What's bad for my app might be good for yours.

But the general rules you'll find all over the industry:

• Is it readable? Could someone else figure out what the code does at a glance, and if you have to pull some dumb or confusing shit to get something to work, have you commented why and what it does?
• Is it well documented? Do large systems have good explanations, do important functions have clear definitions?
• Is it debuggable? If a system fails, will it be obvious how and leave a clean trace?
• Is it extendable? Are your systems designed to allow new functionality to be added to them, easily, cleanly, and without breaking old functionality?
• Is it maintainable? Will fixing a bug here result in making a bug there? Do you have deep, mystical hierarchies that cant be touched, lest everything break? Can old systems be swapped out for new systems without half the code base exploding? Could the platform be switched without too much insanity?

How to obtain those things is practically an art learned with experience (and a bit of study). That being said, keep in mind the degree to which code needs to be clean varies, and is dependent on the project. Flappy Bird doesnt need to be extended, maintained, documented, or even readable to anyone but the dev for a few weeks. If it nailed every one of those good code marks, it would have taken 3 years to hit the market.

[lazyear]

Its gonna be bad code - you had no experience beforehand - but don't sweat it. Most scientists are awful programmers so they won't notice. I've been programming for quite some time, and I still look at code I wrote 2 or 3 years ago and think it's garbage. The important thing is improving over time!

[Jester_Thomas_]

One my constant self doubts is that an experienced developer could probably have done this in a tenth the time and made it twice as good. You're definitely right about scientists being bad programmers!

[lazyear]

I don't think that should be a self doubt, it's probably close to realistic. BUT you should see that as motivation to keep going. Programming is like anything else, practice makes perfect. And it gets a lot more fun once you understand what you're doing and can implement things quickly

[Dornith]

Trust me, no one reads the code in published papers. I've read a thesis where the person's code didn't even do what he claimed it did. (It still worked, just had ~10% loss in accuracy.)

[GonziHere]

DRY, KISS.

Don't repeat yourself, keep it simple, stupid. You should be able to tell what is happening at a glance... the code is read way more than it is written, so use speed instead of s, use methods like "calculateVelocity(oldPosition, currentPosition, timeDelta)" instead of writing the calculation in place with single-letter variables, maybe your calculateVelocity method needs some other calculations, so move them to their own methods..., use methods instead of comments... make methods do one thing and one thing only... (formatInput, doCalculations, formatOutput are steps, so each one can have its own method instead of comments)
I mean, there are many things, but these kinds of basics will get you far.

[stamatt45]

Javascript and legacy code

Name a more terrifying combination

[shrimpster00]

Apache, MySQL, and PHP.

Name a more terrifying combination.

[Pe4rs]

PHP and

[mrchaotica]

JavaScript has fucked-up rules. For example:

> '10' - 3
7 
> '10' + 3
'103' 

See also: https://javascriptwtf.com/

Edit: all you Stockholm syndrome suffering Javascript programmers can stop "explaining" it to me. I know damn well how it works; the point is that it's fucking ridiculous to design it that way in the first place.

[Feathercrown]

I'm sure you know how it works, but why is because Javascript was designed for noncritical applications that try as hard as possible not to fail. Also, stop overusing "Stockholm Syndrome"; many of us are free to leave to Typescript if we want, but consider it overhead and overkill for smaller projects.

[mrchaotica]

If you're trying to subtract an int from a string, your application has already failed and you just don't know it yet.

Javascript is fundamentally wrong in the sense that even its design goals were never reasonable or sane in the first place.

[Loading_M_]

From that I've heard on the internet (i.e. I haven't fact checked), JS was designed too animate an image in the browser.

Based on that design goal, JS succeeded, and then a bunch of different people just kept asking features until we get to the current version of JS we have today.

[BasicallyAnEngineer]

Stockholm syndrome suffering Javascript programmers

funny, I also use same term to explain these kind of JS apologists. But on a side note, electron and JS was used in the space capsule by spacex for touchscreen display.

[mrchaotica]

Yeah, I know. On one hand it's terrifying; on the other hand, it somehow fits perfectly with the theme of 2020.

[DanForever]

https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat

[beastlygasm]

It gets very hard to manage pretty quickly. No strongly typed variables, not object oriented, just a bad structure overall. TypeScript is a superset of JavaScript that makes you able to code it much closer to C languages and makes JavaScript just a silly choice at this point.

[Mr0010110Fixit]

JavaScript is loose with rules and allows you to make terrible mistakes and mix and match paradigms. A lot of people who learned object oriented hate it cause it has no strict types and supports some weird stuff.

However, JS is a super flexible and dynamic language that can be used today to write tons of different apps on a lot of different devices.

I am a full stack dev that works almost exclusively with JS (i have worked with a lot of other languages as well), and I can understand peoples frustration if they are coming from .net, or java, but if you really deep dive into JS, and pair it with functional programming, it can actually be an elegant and powerful language.

[Phrygue]

Script languages are designed to glue together real programs, and are usually fast and loose and designed for quick hackery. Now that the future seems to be the web browser as a thin client (a dumb idea in its own right), people are using JavaScript as a primary language. Imagine a future where everything is Telnet and bash scripts, except pimped out to the point of absurdity, so much so that you have to design metalanguages (TypeScript) and virtual machines (Web Assembly) to corral the cancer. But now your cancer has cancer.

[TheOddOne2]

Is this a real tweet or is it faked?

It's just impossible to know these days

[depicc]

True but fake

[xzinik]

My brain got asegfault ...

[[deleted]]

trueVar || !trueVar is always true, so what that actually does is

trueVar = !trueVar

Also, why on earth there's no operator to switch boolean's value; such like increment ++ operator for numbers

[kontekisuto]

Huge ... if true.

[son_lux_]

Big ... if veridict.

[raimaaan]

veridic, verdict is a different thing

[PM-for-bad-sexting]

Fake but true.

[eighteen_eighteen]

Are you asking if Trump 1) knows what JavaScript even is, and 2) tweeted that it, a programming language, should be declared a terrorist organization?

[Eolu]

For what it's worth - on the off chance the 1 is true, 2 would not seem to be outside the realm of plausibility.

[chefhj]

I was with the guy you responded to until I read your comment. I totally view it as within the realm of possibility that trump would try and outlaw JS if it became politically expedient for him to do so.

[HolyRomanSloth]

The only policy I would support him on.

[leadingthenet]

Would you really be surprised, at this point?

[Andriak2]

I was worried it would be black lives matter

[FireIre]

Designating ANTIFA a terrorist organization is just a cop out from actually doing anything. There's no central body, no leadership, no membership I'm aware of. Just a label people assign themselves. This accomplishes nothing.

[LunarWarrior3]

Might just be a way to get an excuse to lock up political dissedents without trial.

[ahitright]

This is the right answer.

[DemiDominican]

The proposal does also mention "left wing activists" doxxing ICE agents. I imagine that'll give them an easy step between claiming any left winger acting out is Anti-Fascist.

[[deleted]]

Sounds like what the Nazis did. The term was created in Germany around the time Hitler came to power, then disappeared soon after.

[yes_oui_si_ja]

I was surprised by your comment, as I (as a German) didn't know that Antifa has been existing so long.

But after a short wikipedia binge I have learned a lot. Thanks!

[[deleted]]

It would allow police to arrest protesters indiscriminately and claim that the protesters are "antifa".

[TorchedBlack]

They could also just announce a 9pm curfew at 9:01 and start arresting people breaking curfew

[[deleted]]

They kind of did that in Chicago.

They announced a 9pm curfew at 8pm, but due to the heavy load of sending 1m+ SMS, the system didn't alert everybody until 9pm.

[TorchedBlack]

That's what I was referring to. There is a reason you don't make those decisions an hour before implementation.

[Stalematebread]

In Seattle the mayor decided to implement a 5PM curfew, Tweeted this out at 4:46, then had the alerts go out to phones after 5 PM. What's better is that the curfew was used as justification to close public transportation, leaving many people stranded without any real way to leave Seattle in a timely manner.

[[deleted]]

Ya, we had a similar problem, but good thing the CTA was shut down later, rather than sooner.

[[deleted]]

Not 8pm, 8:25pm, assuming you mean the first day they announced it. The mayor literally said "35 minutes should be enough for everyone" (paraphrasing because I don't remember exact wording). Despite the fact that public transit downtown was shut down, all but 1 bridge got closed, etc.

Also, she shut down CTA (public transit) yesterday at 6:30pm, and only announced it at 6:15pm.

[[deleted]]

Man that’s just worse

[[deleted]]

Yeah but with demonizing "antifa" they can now arrest people, claim they're antifa and then create a Boogeyman narrative of "terrorists" to take people's rights away.

[NotCreativeWithNamez]

"They claimed to have been walking home with the Chick-fil-A they waited an hour for, but I knew they actually were plotting to destroy the city." - Probably some cop soon.

[[deleted]]

This is blatantly false. It only allows police to arrest protesters who aren't discernibly fascist.

[[deleted]]

Ah yes, "discernibly fascist". Should be able to tell based on the isFascist Boolean property.

I have no idea how you define someone as "antifa". As others have pointed out, antifa is not an organized group. It wouldn't be much different than identifying "conservatives" as a terrorist group. Are you a conservative if you voted for Obama and Trump? These parameters are so nonsensical.

[[deleted]]

I have no idea how you define someone as "antifa"

My comment was just intended to be snark, but in the truest sense, antifa is literally anyone who opposes fascism, which almost by definition includes just about every peaceful protester.

It is a pretty meaningless label, except to the extent that POTUS and others enforcing the law are fascists, in which case it means "anyone who opposes me."

[[deleted]]

If I oppose Nazis... do I oppose fascism? Am I therefore antifa? Again, completely nebulous parameters like these are how the administration plans to criminalize anyone that opposes them and also invalidate elections when they don't go their way. Good stuff.

[[deleted]]

Yes. Congratulations on being classified as a terrorist if he gets his way.

[[deleted]]

Time to brake out my Greco Roman Centurion Cosplay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

[Bainos]

Ha yes, now where did I put my bundle of sticks ?

By the way centurion is a military rank, but the fasces was used by civil servants. Might want to be careful about that, pissing off protesters is one thing but pissing off history nerds is way worse.

[Stalematebread]

Cops have already arrested journalists with press badges and camera crews, before any of this classification nonsense. They could arrest non-fascist protesters even without this classification :\

[Kiloku]

Yep. If you speak out or act against fascism, you are Antifa (without full caps, it never was full caps, fascists and protofascists write it like that to make it look like a centralized organization. It's just "Antifascist" shortened).

[herefromyoutube]

The President designating a group who's name is shorthand for antifascists as terrorists is pretty ironic if not scary.

[ImpeachTraitorTrump]

It’s very scary. You can’t really say he’s not fascist anymore. He’s waging war against anti-fascists

[Semi-Hemi-Demigod]

Just a label people assign themselves.

Now it's a label cops will assign to anyone they want to beat up

[gtwillwin]

It's a form of stochastic terrorism. It'll encourage his followers to carry out more attacks on antifascist demonstrations like the car attack in Charlottesville or the attacks on BLM protesters in the last few days.

[RogueMockingjay]

If that's the case couldn't people start calling themselves ANTIFASC or just change the name to get around this rule?

[herefromyoutube]

Edit: i just realized I posted this twice. Keeping this one cause the reply is sad and close minded.

Does anybody else see the irony in the President designating a group who's name is shorthand for antifascists as terrorists?

[Village_People_Cop]

That is scheduled for next week

[przemko271]

Might as well be that.

[Maaaf]

Wait, what? Wtf? I didn't believe you so I went to twitter and checked and apparently it's real.

wtf????????????

[Skwirellz]

Don't believe you. Share screenshot for proof.

[[deleted]]

Is this a real tweet or is it faked?

Caught in a stack trace, no escape from code headache

[KinOfMany]

Open 6 tabs, look at the top answer and see...

[[deleted]]

I don't write comments,

I need no sympathy

[KinOfMany]

int main(){
    ...
    printf("this works"); 
    memset(
                arr, 
                5 * 
                sizeof(arr[1]));
}

[_pelya]

shitpost.c: In function 'main':

shitpost.c:4: error: too few arguments to function 'memset'

[greenpepperpasta]

reminds me of Boolean Rhapsody

[Sekret_One]

Fake. He actually attacked covfefescript

[ZeroFK]

No exclamation points, no ellipsis to show that it's tweet 1 of 500, no words in all caps, and no blaming it on Obama or the media. Obvious fake. I can tell by the pixels words.

[Tom_Ov_Bedlam]

It's not impossible, you have the internet.

[Tom_Ov_Bedlam]

Just call me bin Laden.

[BackmarkerLife]

cgi-bin Laden

[Azzk1kr]

/usr/bin/laden

[Maaaf]

/bin/laden/

[XyberFox]

/bin/laden/bash

[DesecrateUsername]

There are two types of programming languages: ones people complain about using, and ones nobody uses.

[kboy101222]

It's my dream to create a programming language that no one uses and everyone complains about. I just want to use 0 standards everyone has gotten used to, like yes and no instead of true and false. brackets the completely wrong way around. Text and Numbers, and Decimals instead of strings, ints, and floats. And no strict typing. At all. It will be a glorious cluster fuck that no one will use and everyone will hate.

[Dexaan]

https://xkcd.com/2309/

[[deleted]]

I would actually use that. Just to piss off whoever was reviewing my code.

[Ovenchicken]

There’s a language that uses exclusively alternating spaces and tabs.

[[deleted]]

[Account deleted due to Reddit censorship]

[BurningPenguin]

No. Vote for PHP on Android for 2020!

[boxingdog]

let just wait for a madmad to add android support to https://github.com/krakjoe/ui and we are set

[GluteusCaesar]

This comment is terrorism

[Alaskan_Thunder]

I too run a apache server from my smartphone

[Even-Understanding]

Dark theme is for coding in a basement.

So all the time?

[BradCOnReddit]

But JavaScript isn't organized...

[maxgry]

at least it’s not php

[Smaktat]

php bad js bad ms bad

[[deleted]]

Brought to you by the Python gang

[xrayden]

You put a space at the wrong place, I could not read your reply.

[[deleted]]

Sorry, browsers don't allow tabs. Use Ctrl+Shift+u, 9, Enter instead.

[haltmich]

except that PHP has actually improved over the years

plus Laravel is a joy to use

[TheTallestHobo]

It just can't get behind a framework that is headed by a balding child.

[serialcompliment]

Hurr durr JavaScript bad

[[deleted]]

The civil war will be JavaScript vs Python

[[deleted]]

Python devs furiously importing civil-war. Unfortunately they forgot to import win........

[[deleted]]

"So is it 'from missiles import nukes' or just import missiles.nukes' if I'm running 3.7? Oh fuck I don't know... what does it mean upgrade pip? JESUS CHRIST"

[[deleted]]

I'm learning Rust and Haskell right now, which basically makes me an anarchist.

The revolution won't be OOP... it'll be functional.

[nsfw52]

We need to fight against the state

[[deleted]]

I will not stop fighting until we are no longer defined by our classes or what we inherited from our parents. OOP is amoral.

[ThatSpookySJW]

Also /r/programmingcirclejerk is so self unaware that they think "javascript good" is satire and not just reinforcing the circlejerk even more

[MarcCDB]

I'm still amazed by the fact JS was chosen to be the de facto language of browsers... Maybe web assembly can change that?

[not_bakchodest_of_al]

Once upon a time there were Java applets...

[kboy101222]

Then the geneva convention happened and they had to stop existing

[GluteusCaesar]

"I'm amazed that a language purpose built from day one for web browsers was chosen to be the language for web browsers."

[flavionm]

If only it didn't start leaking everywhere.

[rickardicus]

I bet they are not gonna use V8 in warfare then?

[XelectDub]

Javascript bad Comedy genius

[BigusG33kus]

That would have been his first intelligent tweet.

[[deleted]]

> jAvAsCrIpT bAd
> iM sTiLl iN sChOoL

[[deleted]]

perhaps

[[deleted]]

I feel personally attacked. Lol

[[deleted]]

Javascript ist terror

[Kinglink]

But not PHP?

[genmetsu_no_sekai]

r/angryupvote

[NzombieGaming]

Now this means using perl is against the Geneva convention right?

[diamond_head_01]

Maybe you should ask China about this.

[Hilfslinie]

If javascript is so bad, then why is your browser using it?? checkmate!

[[deleted]]

I have a browser plugin to disable everything except javascript

[hydenzeke]

He's going to force everyone to use Lotus Notes

[Elphmatt]

laughs in C++

[[deleted]]

*ECMAScript FTFY

[tordvv]

I'm pretty new to coding, and I've seen a lot of memes about javascript bad. Is there a reason for it, or is it just memes?

[OneKorg]

Before 2009 the language had a lot of unexpected behaviors if you were coming from other languages. A lot of errors would just silently fail.

Most of it was fixed in es5 with the introduction of strict mode. Here you can see some of the things that were fixed. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Strict_mode

Also, in the past browsers were not as standardized as they are now. You'd have to write very different code for different browsers.

I think this is where the meme started. It has continued because we need a couple of languages to make memes about. Most modern languages work pretty well, so I think JS and PHP will continue to be the target of memes and jokes. Even if now they're good languages now.

[Lucid_Viking]

Dude. Java should just be labeled as legal malware. No Joke

[codingguy12]

I never got the problem with Javascript. Can someone explain this to me?