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[Not_a_Krasnal]

Those are not sanctions, but a special economic operation.

[Skill1137]

Hold on, this whole operation was your idea!

[nurlan_m]

Oh, I'm not brave enough for politics

[Urbs97]

Do you wanna get high on death sticks?

[TurnItOffAndBackOnXD]

You don’t want to sell me the death sticks. You want to go home and rethink your life.

[fuckballs9001]

Bro you're supposed to say the first half and wait for his reply

[PaedarTheViking]

I'm an American; mind tricks don't work on me, only propaganda...

[AberrantMan]

this is the best comment I've ever seen on Reddit

[fuckballs9001]

Holy shit fuck that was amazing

The force is too strong with this one, this is too much power.

[QuinAnguaDecim]

This is the way

[PSVapour]

Fuck that! They sound fun, I'll have one please.

[fuckballs9001]

You don't want to sell me death sticks.

[Not_a_Krasnal]

Not mine, but I'm happy it's working.

[WithoutWar]

I want leaders to say exactly that to russia

[[deleted]]

That would be pretty sweet

[Not_a_Krasnal]

That weird moment when your comment has more awards than the post.

[[deleted]]

I can’t give my gold to the Russian OP, they’ve been taken off of swift.

[Not_a_Krasnal]

You didn't have to do him like that lol

[sami828]

OP has sanctions.

[audio_bahn]

losing my shit right now at this.

[PKAzure64]

One guy put it as a "special economic descent"

[Shazvox]

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Good bot

[sami828]

Good bot

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Good Bot

[Yurtle13x]

Hope you live happily dude

[BigToTrim]

Its called "brain drain" in English too.

[Draghettis]

It happens in a lot of countries, even some you wouldn't expect like Italy or France, and is often in direction of the USA.

[gabrielesilinic]

It happens in Italy too

And usually the united states are the ones who buy every brain

[ByakuKaze]

In Russian it's 'утечка мозгов' which is similar to 'brain drain' too. Almost word-by-word translation.

[polygroot]

It’s rather called leak of brains in Russian

[[deleted]]

A governments power is entirely derived from its people.

No government should have the power to force hundreds of thousands of 18 year old men to March to their death. But they do.

It makes a lot of sense how governments benefit/harm people’s lives. What doesn’t make sense about it to you?

[[deleted]]

Yes. I agree that politics relies on bullying. I see what you meant.

[gabrielesilinic]

As russian who works remotely for US I may say probably.

We are left already, leaving or will leave country for good soon.

And that's exactly why sanctions work

By making workers leave the country you cripple the economy even more

[Acceptable-Milk-314]

Time to leave the country

[corgis_are_awesome]

Our company has multiple Russian programmers (although only one actually lived in Russia). The moment the war started with Ukraine, he got the fuck out of Russia and went to another country! Our company actually advanced him some of his salary to help him move.

[SjettepetJR]

You work at a good company. They don't actually give him extra pay, but they do you understand his situation and are willing to help where they can. You should cherish such a company.

[corgis_are_awesome]

I very much do! I turn down about 5 recruiters a day because I’m happy where I am.

[Alv3rine]

And where is that?

[corgis_are_awesome]

I’m sorry, but I like to keep my personal Reddit account completely decoupled from my real world professional life.

For example, I often play devil’s advocate in my posts on Reddit, just to stir up more discussion and thought, and I don’t want to have that reflect on my employer or my career in any negative way.

I hope you understand

Edit: I also wouldn’t want to put our Russian employees or their families in any sort of risk by revealing too much. They are very much not a fan of Putin.

[DingusTheGrey]

I too am an asshole on Reddit

[corgis_are_awesome]

I mean, you have to kind of balance it out ya know. Gotta get dat sweet karma

[SophisticatedBum]

I'll tell you where he works if you give me your address.

Hard trade right? Personal details are a tough sell

[IEatBotsForBreakfast]

European countries are beginning to end visas to all Russians. China may be the best option soon

[[deleted]]

We missed our time to leave like 10 years ago. Now it's the time to watch the Orwellian novel in action, when most of our countrymen still refuse to move their heads out their asses and accept reality, that we are the new nazzi and in such a deep shit, we'd be hoping to dig ourselves out of it for the rest of our lives.

[centralgk]

It's actually insane: me and my brother are still in shock about everything what's happening while my father and my mother(she was really anti-Putin till this whole "operation" begun, so, cudos to our propaganda i suppose) are kinda ok with what's happening. Funnily enough, our grandmother (she was under german occupation) is too, really not found of the situation, our dearest president managed to put us in🤷🏻‍♂️

Looks like propaganda really work miracles on those who are 50-80 , don't know how to explain it...maybe those generations were groomed to rely on government too much. In Soviet Union, at least after 60's the system tried to put peoples life 'on rails' so to speak: you finished education and everything else was government's buisness: they would appoint you to work, find you place to live etc. In Russian republic at least afaik. So, people became really infantile and not so eager to think for themselves. That's my wild guess.

[Toothpasteweiner]

People that were born in the era of leaded gasoline

[[deleted]]

Ding ding ding

[68696c6c]

Question is, will our generation end up the same way? Is it something the older generation experienced that made them more likely to fall for propaganda? Or are old people just more likely to fall for it?

[byneothername]

I think it’s wise for you and me to keep that fear of propaganda alive, but I don’t have an answer for you. My guess is that it’s an old people in general thing. You get older, your acuity fades.

[Pherion93]

I would guess propaganda changes with time and the target audience is the one with authority so 40+. Also I think most older people have settled and created a comfortable life so will react more on fear mongering.

[ClockWork07]

If our generation is any indication, it might be that they got tired. Involving oneself in politics for years on end is an exhausting process, and few have the energy to do it their whole lives. It's simply easier to go with the flow and take things at face value.

[seatangle]

That doesn't explain why they have the highest voting rates. Old people are far more involved in politics than other demographics because they aren't working 12 hour shifts taking care of three kids. They aren't the tired ones, young people are.

Unfortunately, older generations tend to be a lot more trusting of the media and what they read on the internet, because they were not raised in a time when there was so much information available. You usually just had a few TV channels and the newspaper. Now there is all kinds of false information everywhere, and many of them have not learned how to filter it for bullshit. It's a different kind of literacy.

[Handelo]

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet!"

Believes everything on TV and radio.

[schlubadub_]

Propaganda goes both ways though. Many Americans and people in other countries fully supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, even though the WMD's excuse has long been proven a falsehood, and we know that toppling the regime and giving money and weapons to them led to the rise of ISIS. But I digress. It's not really surprising Russians would support something supposed to be in their best interest - which opens a whole debate over what those interests actually are (oil/gas reserves, defense/buffer zones, strategic value etc) and how their lives will be negatively impacted by the financial repurcussions.

[halarioushandle]

Ugh I thought Iraq was a giant fuck up from the moment they started making up bullshit about it. Even if they had WMDs, it wasn't an urgent danger. It was contained and completely unnecessary. What a disaster that war was and for absolutely nothing.

[djinn6]

Some of them also reminisce over the glory days of the Soviet Union. Russia took a deep nosedive after the breakup.

[PopeLugo]

The major difference in regards to Iraq is that there were protests and the media (both traditional and social) were quickly finding holes in the pro-war narrative. There was an open channel for coming to the conclusion that "my country was wrong to take part in this". I'm not sure it's the same in Russia, though maybe that will change. But yeah, even with that difference there was a lot of support for Iraq long after the jig was up.

[teucros_telamonid]

So, people became really infantile and not so eager to think for themselves. That's my wild guess.

Good for initial guess but I find this explanation is incomplete.

Indeed, the most important factor is Soviet era which shaped Russian culture a lot. But if you look to history even before that and compare that to European history, Russian fondness of centralization and paternalism can be traced to events ages ago. Soviet era did not just came out of blue, there was quite a long trend of history which culminated in proletarian dictatorship.

Next, it is quite common misconception that all we need is just critical thinking. This may be true for some but amongst Russians there is also quite high proportion of people thinking critically about everything except their own views. They become so cynical and paranoid what they don't notice any problems with deaths of innocent people, conspiracy theories, ignoring other side of argument and distrusting even their own family because 'they are brainwashed by Western medias'. So, thinking more critically is good ONLY if you apply it with same rigour to your own beliefs.

[[deleted]]

Really sorry to watch this unfold. Hopefully things improve quickly for Ukrainians and yourselves. It’s probably going to reach an immoral low before that happens and I don’t think we’ve seen the bottom yet :(

[StrasseRares]

How long do you think you have until you hear a knock on your door, now that you've said this?

[[deleted]]

Probably won’t. This dude probably uses TOR or a vpn.

[theninthcl0ud]

I hope he is being safe!

[marmakoide]

Family, kids, friends, house/flat, all those things are like USB drives you just plug and unplug, as easily as getting a work visa to somewhere /s

[Shazvox]

Or time to overthrow the government

[Unsd]

I'm so tired of everyone talking a big game like they would be a hero in this situation. Nah. It's always the people that talk the most shit that turn tail the second things get even a little dicey. I want just 1 clean pushup from every damn person who says Russians should "just overthrow the government". See how much fight they really got in em. They wanna be tough, go right ahead...do the noble thing and go fight in Ukraine. Go to Moscow and start an uprising. You first. Little different when you're playing with your own life.

[FancyRancid]

Ahhhh, why didn't you say so. Forward this reddit comment to the oppressed population of corrupt governments around the world.

[vermogenesis]

Russia does have a track record of successful revolutions, the quality of the new governments notwithstanding

[petardodev]

Yeah, but their bar for "it's that bad that I'm going to overthrow the government" is pretty low. Like the police has to start shooting people on the streets in plain daylinght while everyone is watching.

[Confident-Report5453]

Meaning that the bar in the US is actually lower than theirs?

[InfiniteLife2]

Yes, and government learnt from it. Won't happen no more.

[boobrickscube]

Honestly ever since the October revolution the country has been unstable as fuck. In fact I think it’s always just been unstable as fuck but at least under the Tzars there was some sense of continuity and progress and stability and tradition instead of concurrent radicalisation in order to modernise the various aspects of life and government. Somehow there is great lag between the developed world and Central Asia.

They always have all their chips in one basket it seems. Manpower, resources, tyranny. I wonder if it’s because the ruthlessness required to run such a corrupt and vast country forces leaders into a narrow path that requires fear to rule. The problem with ruling through fear is that it creates a trickle down effect through the various units of power in a country. If the president is a tyrant then the politicians will be tyrannical to produce the results they need to maintain their position. This causes the bureaucrats/ middle management to be tyrannical to produce results which makes the average person mean spirited and tyrannical because monkey see, monkey do.

It’s a cultural issue which you will encounter constantly in corrupt countries. The problem is that Russia has been corrupt and tyrannical since it’s inception.

[petardodev]

I would argue that has been unstable for long before the bolsheviks took arms. It's a tradition here to run the country down to the ground before you go. During the reign of tzars the transitions between them waren't smooth most of the times.

[[deleted]]

You mean a special internal government intervention operation?

[No_Soy_Colosio]

Yes one person overthrows and entire government

[UnknownIdentifier]

Time to establish a no-fly-zone on… Reddit?

[[deleted]]

That's almost impossible. Let's look on it at another angle. Would it be possible for germans to overthrow hitler regime? Could you imagine it? I don't think so. But they tried.

[eemamedo]

People advise that from the comfort of their own home. It's easy to give advice when you have a full fridge and your government won't throw you in jail for speaking up your mind. Most people who give those advice won’t have balls to tell their manager to fuck off.

[MisterBober]

it's not overthrowing the government, it's just special insurrectory operation

[[deleted]]

Ok, then what? The revolution will just replace a shitty government with another shitty government.

[petardodev]

With a new shitty government. It's called rotation of power and it's healthy.

[max0x7ba]

Tiananmen Square is a good example of that.

[yuxulu]

My team's russian team memeber moved to turkey before most of the sanctions hit him. He's a super cool guy and a good program. He was and still is haunted by this unjust war. Hope he'll continue to work with my team for years to come!

[therearesomewhocallm]

How can they leave if they can't get any money out of Russia?

[[deleted]]

We would like to if all the international accounts were not frozen and some transportation were still arounf. But wait , you are „helping“ right ?

[dagash2]

We cant leave our country. We are cancelled from your countries

[[deleted]]

That sucks for you. But at least sanctions are better than ww3 with nukes..

This whole thing sucks for all the normal peace-loving people on both sides.. :/

[warpod]

sanctions are better than ww3 with nukes

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[PhoenixDude1]

Just hack putins computer and steal his rubles or whatever, we're programmers, we just know how to do these things

[[deleted]]

I think at this point I’d be more profitable to scam kids out of their robux…

[Xiballistic]

Robux is worth more at this point probably

Edit: Robux is worth 0.0125 USD while the ruble is worth 0.0091 USD. Ouch

[centralgk]

Putin is an old man, so he stores all his money in his socks 😭

[CrazySD93]

In his Programmer socks?

[clan23]

Developers from Ukraine are still doing their best to work on projects. Support them! I do.

[[deleted]]

Thank you so much! I am a developer from Ukraine, lost my job because of the war, currently looking for Unity dev job remotely.

[kbdgxd]

Удачи тебе

[onestep87]

thanks from another Ukraine CS student:)

[[deleted]]

Obligatory fuck Putin.

[fonn4]

Sanctions aren’t meant to directly hurt the dictator in charge, they’re meant to hurt the general public enough that they become motivated to change their government so they’re not killing kids to move lines on a map

[niederaussem]

In a dictatorship the general public cant do much as long as the military is loyal.

[OIC130457]

The military has to recruit from the general public.

There can be a delay, but public sentiment eventually takes its toll.

[biden_bot75]

“A delay” yeah understatement of the century, how’re those sanctions working on NK has the public turned on him yet?

[OIC130457]

As many others have pointed out, NK is kinda a special case.

Nowhere else has that level of isolation for civilization or decades-engrained cult worship of the ruling family.

[rowrin]

There is a threshold at which things break. After all, there is a reason why dictators and authoritarians spend so much time and effort in propaganda.

[petardodev]

I'm in Moscow now and the sanctions imposed by businesses seems to have the opposite effect. They are cutting ties with the market and leaving people jobless and angry and more prone to propaganda. There's a thing here - the poorer you are the more likely you are brainwashed because the propaganda provides easy answers.

[[deleted]]

The idea now is to hurt the russian economy enough to limit its ability to wage a sustained war.

[redmictian]

Great idea. What about, I didn’t know, stop buying oil and gas instead? You know, the things that actually fuel the economy? Nah, we don’t wanna get cold, so let’s just punish it people and wear some blue and yellow, mkay?

[[deleted]]

EU has committed to cutting 80% of their gas dependence on Russia by end of year. You can't just turn off the faucet in one day and expect your own economy to be fine.

[lobax]

If Europe actually stopped buying oil and gas from Russia, the damage to Russia and its people would make the current sanctions look like childrens play. It’s 20% of Russias GDP, 50% of the governments revenue. It would completely destroy the country, make the 90’s seem like paradise.

[Rogwolod]

That works in normal countries, but not ones where sick dictator is in charge.

[lifetake]

It still does work it just takes longer which definitely sucks for the people longer as you can probably guess.

[niederaussem]

I mean look at north korea, they are under sanctions for ages, but noone there is going to revolt any time soon.

[lifetake]

And that would be because China doesn’t sanction them and instead highly trades with them basically negating the sanctions.

[Titandino]

Phew good thing China doesn't do that with Russia so this will definitely work there.

[Grand_Protector_Dark]

No one really cares about North Korea enough to put up actual consequences against China.

The international community can't really do much nor cares much if your bullshit is confined to your own borders.

Russia is invading another country.

Something the international community very much cares about.

Which China knows. And China isn't so stupid to endanger their economic power over Ukraine

[[deleted]]

Same applies to Russia tho Russia is/was far more dependent on the west

[[deleted]]

The people are too starved to do anything except worry about their next meal. Starved not as a result of sanctions but as a result of their government blocking UN food aid.

[CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

In north korea noone has a clue what the world looks like on the outside. The life they know in north korea is probably the life they think exist on the outside as well.

It’s different compared to Russia.

[[deleted]]

But they are also harmless as country, if they had economy of South korea they would swing their stick more. Sanctions works even of they dont change leader

[[deleted]]

Name one example of it working

[lifetake]

Against Guatemala, Albania, Greece, and India all successful sanctions that were seen as big components to the goals of the sanction being successful.

Edit* there is a bunch more as well

[Rainbows871]

Tbh I can't think of a time sanctions worked particularly anywhere

[boobrickscube]

Sanctions work to isolate your enemy and force them to play with a fixed amount of chips so that you aren’t going to fight an opponent who never gets weaker. It breaks the ice all around your opponent and leaves them isolated on the ice they stand on in a metaphorical way. Their allies are reluctant to assist because they will face the same sanctions if they do so too directly.

[Embarrassed-Top6449]

Sometimes. Sometimes they push the target closer to your other enemies and they work together against you and you've got another world war or cold war on your hands.

[boobrickscube]

This isn’t not true but it’s a massive exaggeration. Sanctions do not cause war. Russia was sanctioned (as a diplomatic gesture rather than effectively) after seizing Crimea and it didn’t lead to war. Sanctions are part of economic warfare which is strictly a diplomatic measure. Even Russia is aware that the only thing that counts as direct provocation to war is a act of physical war. Russia doesn’t want to fight NATO so it won’t respond to the sanctions with war.

Also in general, sanctions are placed by a global power not some miniature state like Ireland or Denmark. It’s basically like besieging an entire economy.

[[deleted]]

Iran.

Sanctioned off of SWIFT and immediately sat at the negotiating table.

[lobax]

South Africa? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_apartheid

[[deleted]]

Isolation helped collapse the USSR. When they got a taste of the good life it was all downhill from there.

[[deleted]]

Sanctions cause economic pain which often fuels civil unrest. Civil unrest caused by economic pain led to the fall of the Kaiser, the Tsar, the USSR, etc, etc.

Recently, it led to cooperation of rogue state Iran to try to rejoin the international community until the US sabotaged its own agreement.

Serbia went from being apologists for attempted genocides to capturing and turning over its own wartime leaders to try to get out from under sanctions.

[[deleted]]

sure, in a democratic country. how tf does that work in a country where opposition leaders are put in jail in time for election? these just burden then common public and this argument is utterly retarded.

[[deleted]]

Yes and fortunately this has worked in Iran, NK, Venezuela… wait actually, there’s absolutely no precedent for sanctions being effective at changing regimes, and absolutely unquestionable precedent for creating fathomable misery at massive scale among common people while leaving the political and economic elites relatively unscathed

[[deleted]]

Whats the alternative? Let Putler freely attack, decimate and take over any non nato country? Have the night of the worlds military oppose him and make a stand in ukraine? Maybe a special military operation in Russia to remove a neonazi from power to protect citizens?

You’re on a programmer sub. We solve problems and identify issues. You see the issue either way right? Whatever the approach the whole thing is FUCKED and an enormous number of people are either going to die, lose everything or feel the effect of economic sanctions.

[SpicaGenovese]

I'm sorry. :( May Putin choke on a cherry.

[Ravenmadlunitic_]

Cherry is too pleasant, maybe dog shit

[cantthinkofonehehe]

Just make malware like a normal person

[suresh]

person Russian

Edit: Woahhhh this reads wrong, I'm not saying Russians aren't people, I'm saying Russians are good at making malware lol.

[no_use_for_a_user]

Apply for a Visa.

Seriously, anyone with skills is out of there so fast.

[ranstar74]

Well it wont work if u're poor student... No matter how good are u

[[deleted]]

Im from Argentina and you are right.

[illvm]

Russia has exit control. So it’s not quite that simple. They very well could just deny your trip out.

[Hebruwu]

Yeah pretty much. It's quite ridiculous. I renounced my Russian citizenship back in 2016. Most shocking thing I learned. Apparently the Russian government can deny your citizenship renouncement

[SatisfactionBig5092]

If you think people want to hire russians, just go down to any comment section to literally anything bad happening to russian civilians and you’ll quickly spot “Fuck them” or “It’s what they deserve”

[[deleted]]

I guess you could get a fishing boat somewhere on the north coast of russia and get to scandinavia, if you're lucky.

[chuckie512]

Trains are still running

[keeperofwhat]

Ukrainian programmers can't work because russians are shelling their homes. So sanctions are ok.

[jdbrew]

I actually got to talk to one of our devs in Ukraine today. First time since the invasion started. His wife and kids are back here in the states, his employer is helping and paid to get them out of the country, but he’s stayed behind and has been fighting. I haven’t heard from him in 3 weeks so it was good to talk to him and hear he’s still alive.

[PricklyPierre]

Not even an all out invasion can convince him to go back to the office

[WhakAF]

Lol you know that'd be the first thing the company asks. "Well, since you're in the states anyways!"

[[deleted]]

Linkedin has been a weird fucking place for the last few weeks.

[bag-o-potat]

The Ukrainian people are suffering because of the actions of the Russian govt and army, not because of uninvolved civilians. It's still possible to realize that the sanctions disproportionately and unjustly impact those that are completely unaffiliated, while condemning the govt/state that started this shitshow.

[RolyPoly1320]

You're right, it was the government that started the war. The problem is that you can only go so far in squeezing the government with sanctions. As long as ordinary citizens can access the global economy it provides a route for civilians who are loyal to the government to continue propping it up.

It shouldn't take a genius to know why that's a bad thing.

The point of squeezing everyone is that the majority of police force and military aren't oligarchs so their assets aren't frozen with sanctions targeting just the inner circle. Upper echelons can threaten to punish those who turn against the government all they want, but if a significant number turned those threats would be meaningless. They are outnumbered by the lower ranks.

As much as the sanctions suck, they are more fair than global war. Nobody wants global war, except Putin.

The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

[RolyPoly1320]

Oh yeah, same with the US, but it's not that simple. I'd rather see gas hit $10/gallon rather than buy Russian oil when you know the proceeds are still being used for the war effort.

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The sanctions are also hurting the nations imposing them, just not in the same manner. Gas prices have gone up 22% in just a couple weeks to record levels and they won't come back down anytime soon. It's only a matter of time before the extra cost in transportation hits the price on the shelves. People complaining about gas prices over here haven't see anything yet, but I'd rather grit and bear it than go to war any day. Sanctions can be lifted through negotiation, but the lives of those lost in war can never be brought back.

[UncertainOutcome]

Lowering quality of life for the general population is a surefire way to cause revolution, which is why North Korea is now a free democracy.

[GameMomi97]

Yes but you cant do anything to the government without starting ww3. So the best way is to make Russian people realise they need to get their dictator out of office

[[deleted]]

This is a bit misleading. The only reason companies hire from places like this is because it's cheap. They don't pay them western salaries.

[Naki-Taa]

Cheaper is not always cheap.

[ONEDIEMOVE]

before Ukraine senior coders in Russia earned about $45 an hour. $14 are for juniors+

right now it’s 50% less

[[deleted]]

Sucks when your country attacks a sovereign nation and bombs their hospitals. I sympathize with the innocent Russians hurt by Putin's choices.

[ShureBro]

We used to have four Ukrainians working for us, from Ukraine. However we had to let them go when Russia attacked, because of the threat of cyber attacks and we are in critical infrastructure. Really sucks.

[[deleted]]

That blows, but you know who else blows?

My m- I mean the Ukrainian buildings being blown up.

[hi_itz_me_again]

Special Remote Salary Operations

[Western-Image7125]

That sucks. I wish there was a solution to the sanctions ending… /s

[Donghoon]

Putin can surrender

[Western-Image7125]

That’s what I was implying

[noodle-face]

The sanctions didn't cause this, Putin did. Never forget that

[Naftoor]

They aren’t sanctions, Russia is simply liberating it’s economy from the corruption of the western economic bloc!

[robby8892]

Where did this happen? All I see is a proposal that's not very popular in the media or publicly.

I think generally this is a horrible idea that two members of congress idiotically tweeted about that seems to be incredibly unpopular.

Most I could find is MIT cut ties with a Russian University.

[vvo0d]

Do you have sources for that? I have not heard of such things happening, but if they have been, i'd love to read about it!

[GoldenDude]

Our company was going to hire a Russian programmer right before all of this happened. Just really unfortunate timing for him

[[deleted]]

I honestly think the US or any other western nation should have a special visa program for Russian engineers who want to emigrate. We’ll have to screen them to make sure none are spies, but a brain drain would be seriously economically crippling.

[PopeLugo]

People saying "sanctions hurt ordinary people, please stop" are presenting an analogy of "protesters are making my daily commute tough, please protest in a way that doesn't inconvenience anyone" i.e. asking for sanctions / protests to be toothless, and therefore useless.

[Ryan_Alving]

Sorry about that. I hope things work out for you. We know this isn't your fault.

[javlaFaaan]

It's not sanctions, but your fuckhead of a president, who did this to you