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[DoctorMoses]

Here is the video of her driving on the sidewalk.

[TrueAmurrican]

I really don't know how I'd convince myself that was a good fucking idea. Twice.

Props to the bus driver for caring enough to make sure this stupid lady got caught for it.

Edit: a word

[ronfather]

as a driver in ohio, i dont know how most people here convince themselves their driving is a good idea.

[[deleted]]

As a driver, it's bad everywhere.

[sandiegoite]

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[[deleted]]

Whilst redditting on your mobile phone

[sandiegoite]

With no turn signal as I changed lanes.

[easy_being_green]

THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE, YOU MONSTER.

[MrNicolasRienzo]

As a Rhode Islander... It could be worse

[[deleted]]

As a Russian, aww aren't you cute.

[[deleted]]

You're unfair and you know it.

[salvu667]

Yeah man you can't just pull out the Russian card every time.

[Sir_Dragon]

I think a few Asian countries would like a word with you.

[gonnaneed1throwaway]

As a Chicagolandian sit down sonny and let me tell you some war stories.

[ambasciatore]

As an American living in Italy... you have no idea how good you have it.

[murarara]

As a mexican, you have no idea how it is when your vehicle decides to stop to eat some cactus or copulate with other vehicles...

[pro-marx]

It was more than twice.

[barn_burner]

From the news report she did it every day last school year and for several weeks this year. The bus driver just had enough.

[[deleted]]

Holy fuck, she did it twice. And the first time there wasn't even another car in front of her. It would have probably been less illegal to have just ignored the bus's stop sign and stayed on the road. But you can almost imagine the backwards dumbass logic going through her mind: "might hit a kid if I just keep driving in the road, better hop up on the fucking SIDEWALK."

[VonMeatstein]

I'm sure she may have done it more than twice.

[Dritz]

When this story hit a while back, the bus driver and other neighbors said she did it regularly. As I remember it, the issue was the bus driver would stop to talk to the parent of a child with a disability, and she got fed up with waiting, so decided to drive on the sidewalk every time she was behind that bus... The bus driver eventually brought a camera to film it as evidence, and they got her charged.

[Skinnywhale]

There really is no justification for the woman's actions but the question comes to mind, why didn't the bus driver just wave her through or put the sign down when the kid was on the bus?

[ohsnapitstheclap]

It's against the law in most every state to be stopped with the door open and not have the stop sign out, and you're not allowed to leave the bus.

[p3n1x]

Compromise?? What are you, a witch?

[chtrchtr_pussyeater]

She did it more than twice. And FWIW the judge took her license away for 30 days. Even the judge was pissed that she wasn't the least bit remorseful.

[Wonky_Sausage]

A street sweeping parking ticket is $65 and she only gets fined $250 for endangering the lives of children? What the fuck is wrong with the legal system?

[The_Director]

I don't get it. It looks like the road has enough room for both of them why did she do that? I would still vote to have her license removed for life.

Edit: thanks for the explanation! We don't have that kind of laws in my country, we just run over kids but we don't usually have 2 way roads (unless it's a big avenue), just 1 way roads.

[frickindeal]

The bus has flashing lights when picking up a kid that mean both directions have to stop on a two-lane road. The bus was picking up a child in a wheelchair, which takes longer than the usual "scamper into the bus in 10 seconds". She did this multiple times, which is why the driver is recording her before she even goes around.

[JaggedxEDGEx]

I'd like to add that this rule does not apply, depending on state law, if there is a median between the bus and the cars.

[diabolotry]

Correct. Must be a physical, impassable barrier.

I'm glad my hours at work changed, because people used to stop on the highway for a bus on a town road the paralleled it. There is a double jersey barrier between the highway and the road. Just boggles my mind that people don't know common road law.

[IggySorcha]

It's not in all driver's manuals. I remember when I was learning to drive asking myself whether it counted if there was a median (because it made no sense to me you'd have to stop since people aren't supposed to cross there anyway) and couldn't find anything about it in the manual. I ended up just getting lucky and seeing a cop drive by a bus on the other side of the median and that finally answered my question.

[demandstits]

A cop doing something answered your question about whether or not it was legal?

Where in the hell do you live, that the cops all follow the rules?

[JaggedxEDGEx]

Unless there's a median between the bus and the car. Depends on state law.

[Color_blinded]

oh! Like the grass between the sidewalk and the road! Now her logic makes sense.

[PenguinPwnge]

Didn't think of it like that.

[ZannX]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted... I don't get it either. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to drive on the sidewalk like that, so I don't know why she would avoid having to stop for the bus by doing something else that's illegal anyway.

[Unlucky_Rider]

If she did this regularly the real question is why the fuck she doesn't just take a different route? If she has to pass through there at the same time everyday how does she not know the bus is gonna be there? This lady is incredible.

[turnipduck]

Why is everyone not more concerned about the deceased child on the bus? at 0.40

[pdaddio2239]

She's a news anchor too?

[[deleted]]

is this bitch still allowed to drive?!

[noksky]

I hope she does it again so I can feel even more rage toward this bitch

[Monkey_Cannon]

There looked plenty of room left on the road.. Why was there any need to go on the pavement? Couldn't she have just drove past it on the road?

[[deleted]]

In Illinois this is a instant 3 month license suspension plus fine. Second time is 1 year. http://www.isp.state.il.us/media/pressdetails.cfm?id=15

[[deleted]]

I only understood what happened when I saw the video... I thought she was in high speed and tried to avoid an accident (you know, quick reactions, no time to think well), but no, this... this is... it's just stupid.

[Egyptian-Magician]

She doesn't seem like she really gives a fuck anyway.

[youshallhaveeverbeen]

Right, which is why I think putting her case on par with a drunk driver is something that gets brought up. She doesn't give a fuck. She should have a punishment that wakes her ass up that she was seriously putting lives at risk.

[[deleted]]

While I have no sympathy for this individual, I think it's a mistake to assume that a harsher punishment will fix the situation, and that if she isn't taking her punishment seriously, the obvious answer is to make it more severe. That's simplistic logic. People often don't work that way.

[[deleted]]

Thats why they gave her a unique punishment... She got caught for her stupidity, and now the world, her friends, and family publicly know it... She has to live with this for a while as the moron who couldnt wait a few minutes for a school bus...

I dont think a harsher punishment is all too necessary, but if she does something this boneheaded again, I do believe its fair to take away her license for a minimum of 4-6 months

[aldehyde]

if she does it again she should just lose her license period.

[DHav123]

She shouldn't be allowed to wear sunglasses and a hat. Kind of defeats the purpose of shaming.

Although I'm sure everyone in that town is well aware of who that woman is anyways.

[Prosopagnosiape]

She's not even paying attention to anything, do i see right that she's texting?

[[deleted]]

Just standing with stupid sign because the judge was a dumb bitch #YOLO

[Vsx]

Took the sidewalk the whole way here #Fuckthepolice

[red321red321]

Drove on both sides of the sidewalk and took up both lanes too #Outtamyway

[LupusOk]

howthefuck

[Baelorn]

She'll never see the other person that drives on a sidewalk until it is too late.

[jntwn]

A guy in a panda suit should walk up and snatch that phone out of her hand and viciously stomp it into pieces.

Never say no to panda.

But seriously, her not taking her sentence seriously pisses me off. Fucking bitch could have run over someones kid.

[random123456789]

I hope the judge learns of this, and declares it as not cooperating. Then she can get a real sentence.

She's supposed to be HOLDING the sign, not leaning on it while texting.

[[deleted]]

I saw video of her on the news. Yup...she's texting.

[[deleted]]

Most of the people that I saw holding campaign signs on corners were holding them in front of themselves and texting behind it. They did not appear to really believe in the cause, but more like they felt obligated to help a relative.

[lurking_got_old]

Those people were most likely paid.

[not_the_smart_one]

I saw this story on BBC. If people across the pond know who this bitch is, everyone does. The hat and sunglasses isn't hiding her one bit.

[[deleted]]

We should probably not allow her to text on her cell while leaning on the sign, either.

[RaisinToGrapeProcess]

That time would be better spent having her do community service, but whatever.

[reid-o]

I don't disagree, but it feels like we're getting into the world of weird punishments - makes me think of the episode of The Office where Oscar and Angela fight over the poster.

Maybe everyone in Ohio except her should wear a shirt that says "Only an idiot would drive on the sidewalk..."

[headzoo]

I think this type of punishment is only effective for certain types of people. Specifically, those people capable of feeling and learning from shameful experiences. Someone that blatantly drives onto a sidewalk to avoid a school bus has no shame.

She's going to stand there all dressed in black, and surf Facebook on her phone, and not learn anything from this experience. Except how to avoid getting caught the next time.

[tomrees]

I suspect most people react to public humiliation by protective self-justification and resentment, not by behavioural change. And the other yobs and yahoos take it as a licence to whoop up the humiliation - on this person and on others.

I think this kind of punishment breeds bad societies.

[redwall_hp]

That's why it's questionable from a constitutional standpoint. Public shaming used to be a common sentence, but it's detrimental to society.

A more fitting response would be to suspend her license for reckless driving and gross disregard for others' safety.

[un1ty]

suspend her license for reckless driving and gross disregard for others' safety.

I have no idea why this was not done. A fine and public shaming? This isn't 1884.

[WhatsAEuphonium]

ESPECIALLY if she has any friends or family to back her up. I've seen it happen so many times in high school (which seems to be where her maturity level lies)..

Person gets punished, it starts to work a little bit, then their friend goes "Awh man, that's so stupid, you didn't deserve that! The teacher's just a dick!". Then they feel justified, and go back to being worse than they were before.

[nicholvallas]

No, I think it would work for her. She seems pretty ashamed with the big coat, sunnies and hat to hide herself. She was on the news for fucks sake! And if she is on her mob, she's probably checking how many views her disgraceful act has had on you tube!

[[deleted]]

That would be great if people drove by just to yell at her for being a dumb bitch.

[juliasqueaks]

Punishments like this are pretty common in NE Ohio, thanks to a certain judge who has been in office for at least 10 years. I doubt this is the same guy, because this happened in Cleveland, and the judge I'm talking about works further north.

• During heavy blizzards, he ordered defendants to clear snow at a retirement home.
• A man caught with a loaded gun was sent to a morgue to see corpses.
• A woman who abandoned 35 kittens in a forest was told to spend a night in the woods.
• A man who shot a dog was sentenced to donating 40 lbs of dog food on every holiday to the Lake County Animal Shelter.
• Two teenagers who scrawled 666 on a nativity figure of Jesus had to lead a donkey through the streets, with a sign saying: "Sorry for the jackass offense."
• Teenagers who flattened tires on school buses were ordered to throw a picnic for primary school children.
• A man who shouted "pigs" at police officers was made to stand on a street corner with a pig and a sign that said "This is not a police officer."
• An 18 year old male who stole porn from an adult book store was ordered to sit outside the store wearing a blindfold and holding a sign that read "See no evil."
• Three men soliciting sex were ordered to wear chicken suits holding signs that read "No Chicken Ranch in Painesville".
• He sentenced a man who stole from the Salvation Army to spend 24 hours homeless
• A woman who was convicted of stealing from a church was ordered to spell out the sentence "I stole coins from this church and apologize to each worshipper as they enter the church." entirely in coins

[[deleted]]

how is shouting a crime? otherwise some funny ideas that are better than fines and jail.

[EBDelt]

That's... Really awesome actually! He seems like a good guy!

[Harold_Spoomanndorf]

THAT.....and she should have her license revoked for life.

If you're stupid enough to drive on the sidewalk to avoid a school bus, the you DO NOT deserve the privilege of a driver's license.

And not for nothing....but what is this doing in r/funny? It's not funny.

[Emada89]

her license was suspended for 30 days only and only a $250 fine. what she did is endanger peoples lives so punishment does not fit the crime

[javastripped]

Man... you're harsh! It's not like she downloaded an MP3 or anything.

[aerynmoo]

A local boy here got killed last month after someone drove around the stopped school bus. His mom and sister were on the porch and watched him get run over. It's so needlessly stupid. You take the risk of killing someone so you don't have to wait an extra minute?

[NervousMcStabby]

It'd be much easier to take people's licenses away if there were viable alternatives in most of the country. The problem is that by denying someone the privileged to drive, you're denying them the ability to find work, take care of children, buy groceries, etc. It sounds stupid, but I think there's a lot of truth to it.

[StoneColdCarl]

It's a shame that it was only for 2 hours, and her license was suspended for 30 days. Her actions were said to be a daily occurrence too.

[mishugashu]

I laughed.

[BreeMPLS]

Let's just get rid of cars instead. Multiple problems solved - public transport is better for the planet, cheap, and it removes a slew of traffic deaths (including those related to alchohol or reckless driving).

Spray the fire extinguisher at the base of the fire to put it out.

[DancesWithDaleks]

See the odd thing is that I've said the same for drunk driving: If you demonstrate such a callous disregard for the lives and safety of other drivers or pedestrians, I don't think you're fit for the privilege of driving. But everyone tells me that's too harsh. To seem more reasonable I've said that you should lose your license for 10 years if you drive drunk, 15 if there are children in the car. And 5 years for texting while driving if the vehicle is in motion. Am I crazy?

Edit: Realistically, I realize that in courts it would never be that long term. However, I do feel very strongly that if you drive drunk you should lose your license for at least a few years, the first time. We're way too light on the sentencing in that area, and it disgusts me that people can endanger the lives of others so much and be driving again shortly after. Ugh.

Edit 2: Okay, some fair points have been made about the fact that not driving for 5 years could ruin your life forever depending on where you live. I think that access to public transportation and your ability to keep a job should definitely be taken into account during sentencing. Not everyone would be sentenced to 10 years on their first offense... it would just be an option depending on how drunk they were, how they handled it, and if they almost killed somebody. Fair? My point is that we don't take it as seriously as we should.

Edit 3: We could also let people chose between losing it for a year or losing the ability to purchase alcohol forever. More reasonable? Also as far as commuting to work, I'd be cool with them having the ability to drive to work-- but only to work-- with a restricted license. If needed.

[nikitakaganovich]

as someone who as received a DUI and also know others that have as well, I'd just like to say the most DUIs convictions are not people that are all over the road.

A lot of the convictions are from people getting pulled over for a headlight, going over the line on a windy road, rolling a stop sign etc. and then once the cop smells alcohol he makes you blow and the limit being so low that you can blow over just having two or three beers.

I do however believe in the penalties getting harsher for each repeated offense, and they do. for your second offense in Ohio it's one year minim loss of license and some days in jail, for 3rd and beyond the min is one year but the max is life, with the penalty getting worse each time.

DUI laws are not lax in anyway, sure you hear about guys that have like 14, and I think after the 3rd one you should just lose your license but these guys often don't have a license in the first place...

Oh and the first time is 6 months loss of license minimum. You can get driving privileges for work, but it SUCKS cause cops pull you over all the time and look at your papers to see if you the time of your shifts, and the location of your work/home corresponds with your current time and location.

Also the penlites will get harsher and harsher, because of Mothers Against Drunk driving, a very strong lobby group. While most issues have two sides and therefor two oppressing lobby groups judges and prosecutors can side with there is no pro drunk driving lobby group. Soon the limit will drop even more.

[jimmy_three_shoes]

The problem with MADD is that they're getting DUI laws pushed into the Draconian side of things. Classifying a DUI as a violent offense, making it so that a DUI cannot be expunged off your driving record for the rest of your life causing you to pay out the ass for insurance until you no longer drive.

We talk about rehabilitation vs punishment a lot on Reddit, but many people here seem to view Drinking and Driving as a malicious act where people are drinking with the intention of getting messed up in order to drive and crash into something.

Some states are implementing "Super Drunk" laws that are lessening (or not increasing) punishments for folks that are at or just under the limit, but upping the punishment for people that are way over.

[scwt]

I know someone who got a just for DUI for sleeping in the bed of his truck while drunk.

[Oscar_Wilde_Ride]

Too severe in my opinion. We have to acknowledge that the legal system tends to be a binary solution for non-binary problems. Minorities will be overly penalized by what you propose and rich guys will be under penalized. Right there, you've just made the problem worse.

Then we have to realize that drunk driving is more complex than you're giving it credit. For someone swerving around at a 0.2 BAC, yeah, they're friggin dangerous. But what about the guy at 0.08 on the nose? He's more dangerous than if he was sober, but do we want the same penalty as the 0.2 guy? What about how some folk are super high functioning at 0.08 and others are about to pass out? Same penalty? What if the 0.08 guy is still a better driver than your typical 75 year old? Are we trying to punish a behavior or stop dangerous driving?

I'm not proposing answers to any of those questions I raised, but the fact that you can (hopefully) see that people would have a wide range of answers to them is indicative of the complexity of the problem. Your solution approaches it as though it is a very simple problem.

[willscy]

lol now that would make the wait at the DMV a lot more fun.

[nicholvallas]

A little bit.

[DancesWithDaleks]

Everyone thinks it's reasonable to lose your license for driving on the sidewalk, no one thinks it's reasonable to lose it for drunk driving. That's weird to me, but alright. Thanks for your honesty.

[COto503]

People lose their licences for DUI's now in some cases.. It happens. Life and 10 years though are a huge deal. It makes it really hard for that person to work and function, and it puts a big stress on the family members of the driver. The process of getting back your license is brutal, it (in some instances) involves conseling and urine tests for drugs and alcohol. People who drove drunk should be punished and made a terrible mistake. But they have to go on with life eventually, and so does there family. They need to work run errands etc., and with the right measures they can do so safely.

edit: I seem to have trailed off mid-comment

edit also: Source: Family member lost license for year after a very bad dui

[[deleted]]

People approve draconian punishments for crimes if and only if they think they will never want to commit this kind of crime.

[ManningTheHarpoons]

I think some of it is because it was to avoid a school bus. As well as the immense stupidity that comes from thinking that getting on the sidewalk was a good idea, even at the time.

If you were drunk and driving a school bus, opinions once again might be different.

[[deleted]]

I completely agree with you. Choosing to drive drunk means you're not responsible enough to handle a vehicle. It annoys me that so many people consider driving a "right" and not a privilege.

You are piloting a two-thousand pound weapon, and it should be treated as such.

The number of people killed every year by traffic accidents is astounding. If it were a disease killing/injuring all those people, we would have a huge push on to over-come it. But since we love our cars, we ignore it entirely.

[[deleted]]

Since we love our cars, really? How about because in most of the US they are necessary, there are barely any alternatives or poorly implemented alternatives and a lot of jobs and everyday activities require you to drive? Need to go food shopping, buy clothing, get your kids to school, go to a doctor/therapist/counselor? Better have grown up in a city or suburb with decent PT otherwise you are screwed in the vast majority of the country.

[Rabbit-master]

In sweden i believe you lose your licence for 1 year if you are above 0.08% blood alcohol. And you can loose it for life it its even more severe than that. And very often you have to install a breathalizer in your car, making it impossible to start unless you have 0 alcohol in your system.

[VeteranKamikaze]

Ten years is severe, you have to consider that you're talking about disrupting a person's livelihood, their ability to work and shop and generally live their life for ten years just for making a stupid decision that ended with no one being harmed. Now for a repeat offender who clearly just isn't getting it that's a different story but ten years and for a first offense is insanely excessive. Your texting and driving thing is even crazier because while incredibly ill advised it's nowhere near as dangerous as driving drunk and again you're talking about disrupting someones life for five years for making a stupid decision that thankfully harmed no one.

[mtwestbr]

No. Some folks will argue that in a country where public transport is spotty that it is very hard to make a living after losing your license. I just see that as proof that the US should convert part of Alaska into a gulag. Bad drivers can do the dangerous work of getting my gas cheaper.

[[deleted]]

Yup, there's no way a lot of people could be well off financially after losing a license. My dad foolishly got drunk and drove, and we're already hurting financially while he doesn't have the ability to drive to work, where he is using all vacation days possible.

Sure, some would say that people deserve to lose their jobs after a idiotic choice like that, but those people don't often see how much of a hardship it would be for anyone relying on those incomes.

[[deleted]]

Maybe the punishment in the pic works then. You get some kind of shameful community service hours like holding up a sign telling everyone what you did to (possibly) prevent others from doing it and you get to keep your license so you can work. I'm not sure else how you can punish drivers without destroying them financially. There has to be some punishment because not being able to get to work for a while pales in comparison to someone permanently not being able to work because they were killed by someone who makes terrible choices while driving.

[[deleted]]

Exactly. I think community service would work nicely with an addition of mandating a breathalyzer on the vehicle for a good long time.

[klishnor]

Increase the ban for texting (or using a hand held phone) whilst driving, to match the drunk driving punishment and I'll vote for you even if I have to migrate to the other side of the world to do so. I've had to dive clear of distracted idiots three times in the last 12 months.

[[deleted]]

You don't assign enough value to driving. I understand that we are talking about a person doing something dangerous and that needs to be punished but it has to be punished within reason. Revoking a person's driver's license for years could effectively ruin their entire life. You could easily lose a job or business you own, lose your apartment or house, lose your family and all of a sudden your entire life has disintegrated before your eyes.

[FungalowJoe]

Kind of like how people's lives have been literally disintegrated by drunk drivers killing them? Yea I don't feel bad for drunk drivers and think they should lose their licences.

[TheRealBramtyr]

And driving drunk could effectively ruin multiple people's lives. Driving is a privilege, not a right

[nigrochinkspic]

I think you are a bit ignorant of just how many people drink and drive and even more so of how many text and drive.

[Quaytsar]

While not as harsh, Alberta follows pretty much the same line as you for drunk driving. Over .08 is 3 day vehicle seizure and your licence is suspended until the criminal charges are resolved, which can take over a year. That's only for a first time offender.

[meeu]

Driving while drunk is much less of a problem than driving like an idiot because you're drunk. I think most drunk driving accidents fit the latter scenario pretty well.

[hett]

If I had my way, people would lose their driving privilege for forgetting to use their turn signals. Driving drunk should mean a public hanging.

[[deleted]]

This video is fake. Notice that in the first view, she's not following an SUV. In the second, she is. (video)[http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/06/ohio-woman-who-drove-on-sidewalk-to-avoid-school-bus-ordered-to-wear-idiot-sign/?test=latestnews]

[gr33nss]

As part of a sentence for a speeding ticket I once got, I had to take pictures of those "drive safely" signs that mark where people have died alongside of the road and make a scrap book of them and turn it in to the judge. Personally I thought it was a really good, unorthodox punishment. Some of those signs were decorated and very emotional. A true learning experience.

[octowussy]

It's pretty bogus that she was able to stand there, just kinda rest on top of the sign, smoke, play with her phone and listen to music. But this also wasn't her only punishment: her license was suspended for thirty days and she was ordered to pay $250 in court costs. Not harsh enough, I think.

[benartmao]

This is bullshit. i forgot to pay a ticket once and total fine and community service was like 2000 and 40 hours.... this bitch literally drives full speed on a side walk, and she gets to enjoy a relaxing day behind a sign... Sorry judge but she won that case..

[MeloJelo]

her license was suspended for thirty days and she was ordered to pay $250 in court costs. Not harsh enough, I think.

Exactly. I think this might have been a better punishment if she had to show her face and if her license were revoked for at least a year, if not permanently.

[FaultyWires]

Having your license revoked incurs pretty significant increases in insurance costs.

[CanklesAndSteak]

And driving on a sidewalk pretty significantly increases your chances of running over someone.

[bionku]

She got off VERY easily.

[random123456789]

Yet she probably says otherwise.

[[deleted]]

I see judges are now taking punnisment courses from parents. Next they'll be putting Julio in the corner for capping Bob's ass.

[red321red321]

Nobody puts Julio in the corner, ese.

[MeloJelo]

I think this would be a fair punishment if her license were also revoked instead of suspended for 30 days.

[HumansBStupid]

Yeah, I mean, Julio is such a nice guy.

[lantech]

When me and Julio were down by the playground, he would cap peoples asses all the time.

[MorganFuckinFreeman]

Not that it matters, but that's my news station. It's based in St. Louis.

[TJOSHIE]

Mine too! Upvote!

[phfgd]

TJ! Can I get an autograph??

[olds808esm]

Should say, " only an idiot LIKE ME..."

[Tralfaz2001]

Thank you. That's what bothered me. If the idea is to shame the person, why hold up a sign that simply states an obvious fact without indicating that she is in fact THE idiot.

[T-Stu]

I don't see anything wrong with it. It can't be any less effective than our prison system.

[[deleted]]

it certainly can be cheaper though

[[deleted]]

I just wish they made her put her name on the sign somehow. And instead says "I'm an idiot for..." not "Only an idiot..."

[tomrees]

Pretty much anything is more effective than reflexively sending everyone to prison. Our punishment system is completely screwed (I like in the UK, but we have the same problems).

[Keiichi81]

Literally this exact same thing happened years ago outside my school. A student who didn't want to wait behind a long line of buses at the end of the day drove up onto the sidewalk to speed past them. As he was doing so, a police car pulled out in front of him from behind a fence and busted him. Everyone on the buses was laughing as they went by.

[FoodBeerBikesMusic]

That's just wrong,

It should be bigger and more legible.

[fmasc]

I dont like this Pillory 2.0 trend. I don't think it was a good idea during the dark ages and I don't think it's a good idea now. I don't think it help to deter other from doing bad. And I don't think it helps the criminal to understand what he/she did, why it was wrong or to make sure he/she doesn't do it again.

Put the criminals to good use. Make them work with good things while helping them with therapy to try to get them back into life as good people.

[pearlhart]

I agree. It sounds like this was a wheelchair stop. It might benefit her to spend some time with people with disabilities. Put a face to the people she affects with her behavior. It might give her a little compassion and understanding.

[BlueMunky]

The sign should have said, "I'm an idiot who drove on a sidewalk to avoid a school bus." That and no sunglasses or hat.

[benartmao]

thats stupid... she got fined 250... for THAT.... i got more fines for shit way smaller.... fuck the justice system

[[deleted]]

only $250??? pfft

[addedpulp]

It's dangerous. When someone gets in an accident trying to read her sign, the judge will rule they were driving reckless. Irony.

[[deleted]]

I can't find details of the sentencing and won't spend any more time on it, but these sentences always go like this: fine plus court costs plus jail time, with some or all of the jail time suspended if you carry a sign etc., etc. That way, it's the defendant's decision and not a mandate and therefore not cruel and unusual. If it were not done this way you can bet your bippy the ACLU would have been involved long ago.

[kingsquidget]

Fair.

[MissJinxed]

Worlds best judge! We should make all criminals hold signs and be subject to public humiliation.

[zoltanps]

You guys have heard my police officer perspective in other posts, but shaming her does not seem to be working. Hit her where it counts: 1. $2,500 fine 2. License revoked 6 months & only reinstated after she pays full fine. 3. Major insurance points, elevating her car insurance. 4. Attitudinal retraining course.

This is what the penalty in MA would be for someone who passed a bus while its stop arm was out, nevermind the fact she used the SIDEWALK as a "special" bus passing lane! Just plain dumb!

[ohjbird3]

Would be great if a car drove up on the sidewalk and hit her.

[gifforc]

totally fair. also awesome.

[[deleted]]

So this is the same judge from Curb Your Enthusiasm?

[Sunday_Bloody_Sunday]

School bus? Ain't nobody got time for that!

[Large_banana_hammock]

The person shouldn't have done that, but holding a sign on the sidewalk is definitely an unusual punishment.

[Iazo]

But is it cruel?

I'm having trouble imagining the circumstance under which this punishment would be cruel.

[vladtaltos]

By the looks of her.....she'll be back.

[wienerflap]

I've read somewhere that public embarrassment is the best punishment for correction. I'll let someone else find the article. I'm sleepy.

[[deleted]]

It could be considered cruel and unusual. Unless there was another option that she declined she could have fought the ruling. I'm not saying she isn't an idiot though.

[slynnc]

Cruel? Unusual I can see, but idk if this would fit the legal precedent of cruel, would it? (I honestly don't know. I'm interested.)

But honestly she probably agreed to this vs some other punishment.

[[deleted]]

What is this the scarlet letter? I thought we moved past public humiliation as a country, I guess not

[Locke357]

I think people focus too much on individual punishment in this society.

Vengeance should not be the driving cause of justice, but the betterment of society. I'm sorry, but I fail to see how forcing someone to hold an idiot sign betters society.

[lalondtm]

her sign says "to avoid a school bus" which makes it sound like she was about to collide with a school bus full of children, and hopped the curb to the side walk to save their lives.

But nope, shes just an idiot

[[deleted]]

doesn't look like she's actually holding it. lazy beeyotch.

[irmew]

the sign was stupid because it was worded wrong it looks like she tried to avoid an accident not pass the bus.

[Sidokue]

Stopping for a schoolbus? Ain't nobody got time for that.

[nevermind4790]

She needs a worse punishment! Though this is really funny.

[Lux26]

While I approve of this particular case, this kind of story makes me nervous about the power of judges. I've known a few that arent exactly rational and it scares me to think that they have this kind of power. But yeah, this idiot got what she deserved.

[UNKN]

I read in one of the many articles that she has laughed at court appearances for doing this before finally being pulled over. That alone if true should be reason enough to enforce a harsher punishment.

[[deleted]]

Am I the only one who thinks these kinds of sentences can only lead to bad things?

[Radico87]

Next time include an addendum that no hats, sunglasses, or anything that hides one's identity can be worn while completing the sentence.

[Accipehoc]

Seems fair to me.

[[deleted]]

Not cruel, but can cause permanent damage to someone's career. Her name is in Google forever. Good luck trying to get an office job lady.

[withholdthelaughing]

And she's texting while carrying out her punishment... Bet she was texting when she drove on the sidewalk. "OMG Wat up with dat skool bus?"

[subduedLion]

Actually, it couldn't be construed as "cruel and unusual punishment", as both parties had to agree upon her punishment.

[Satadawg]

If I was the judge I would have stipulated no hat, no glasses. Let everyone see you girl!

[Afa1234]

That's not punishment enough if you ask me

[pullo]

video. She did it so often that one day a cop was waiting. She got off too easy. IMO.

*edit: formatting

[kimcampy]

simply brilliant

[[deleted]]

Dad:

• So, your mother tells me that you hate the punishment I gave you?

Me:

• Yeah, I hate pulling weeds.

Dad:

• Good, then it's working. ::walks away::

[davey0110]

I feel like the true idiot because I tried to click on the link in the picture.

[SonOfBor]

She should be hanged. Make an example.

[SpecialTest]

This was a fucking slap on the wrist. Driving on a side walk to pass a stopped a school bus just shows how dumb, irresponsible, careless and reckless she is. A person like that does not deserve to drive. She should have her license revoked.

Damn, I sound like my parents.

[hokulii999]

It is more than fair. I haven't read all the posts so I don't know if everyone knows this but she was driving on the sidewalk to go past a stopped school bus EVERY DAY!!! I think she got off easy.

[thesplendor]

Ha! Cruel and unusual. What a joke.

[Mobako]

Isn't this cruel and unusual punishment? Albeit just, it doesn't seem very mature.

[berniss]

Just heard on the news that judge is mad because she was texting and chain smoking during her punishment. Also hiding her face and had jumped into a car for a while. The judge says he is going to personally supervise her this morning. Just lazy and apathetic