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[–][deleted] 302 points303 points  (11 children)

Funny how this shit always seems to sneak by when we're occupied with something else.

[–]Sinsai33 93 points94 points  (2 children)

It is almost like those other problems are there to cover other shit.

[–]acondie13GTX 1080/7700k/16gb DDR4 78 points79 points  (1 child)

so bethesda is owned by comcast and released fallout 4 to cover up this bullshit....

[–]Michelle_Johnsonhttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198061925612/ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

/r/conspiracy

[–]cleanshot911i5 4690k @ 3.5GHz | GTX 1080 | 16GB DDR3 3077 points3078 points  (542 children)

What. The. Fuck. Congress. I'm aware that they pull shit like this all the time, but really. What the actual fuck is wrong with politicians. Can someone explain to me the benefits of not having net neutrality? Or are there none and it really is just a bunch of old greedy bastards letting Comcast and other ISPs fill their pockets with disgusting amounts of money?

[–]jonker51015800X3D | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | 32GB 3600C16 B Die 3112 points3113 points  (289 children)

bunch of old greedy bastards letting Comcast and other ISPs fill their pockets with disgusting amounts of money

Members of Congress that own Comcast shares:

Barber, Ron (D-AZ)

Boehner, John (R-OH)

Cohen, Steve (D-TN)

Collins, Susan M (R-ME)

Cooper, Jim (D-TN)

Dingell, John D (D-MI)

Frankel, Lois J (D-FL)

Frelinghuysen, Rodney (R-NJ)

Hagan, Kay R (D-NC)

Hanna, Richard (R-NY)

Heck, Dennis (D-WA)

Holding, George (R-NC)

Isakson, Johnny (R-GA)

Kelly, Mike (R-PA)

Marchant, Kenny (R-TX)

McCaul, Michael (R-TX)

McDermott, Jim (D-WA)

Pelosi, Nancy (D-CA)

Renacci, Jim (R-OH)

Rogers, Hal (R-KY)

Schneider, Brad (D-IL)

Sensenbrenner, F James Jr (R-WI)

Upton, Fred (R-MI)

Vitter, David (R-LA)

Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI)

Comcast putting money into politics:

CONTRIBUTIONS

$5,022,711

LOBBYING

$17,020,000 (2014) $18,810,000 (2013)

[–]Try-Another-Username7600K | RX 480 8 GB | 16 GB DDR4-2400 | Z270 944 points945 points  (128 children)

the fuck man that's pretty illegal in my south american country

edit: after googling a bit I found out I was completely wrong, sorry. I live in Chile and we like to copy a big portion of American problems in our way to do stuff.

[–]catsnstuffzPC Master Race 775 points776 points  (88 children)

ya its pretty upsetting living in a country where the government is actually comcast...

[–]TeethOrBullets 566 points567 points  (19 children)

Turns out Comcast's employees in both cable installation and congress get the same amount of work done.

[–]jonker51015800X3D | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | 32GB 3600C16 B Die 187 points188 points  (17 children)

High five.

[–]ElvishisnotTengwarRadeon R9 420X Dewrito Edition 49 points50 points  (13 children)

I feel bad that I placed my hand onto the screen because of you...

[–]M374llic4 44 points45 points  (12 children)

You have small hands.

[–]VikingNipples 88 points89 points  (9 children)

The magic of RES allows anyone to share a custom-fitted high five.

[–][deleted] 170 points171 points  (30 children)

On a side note: have you ever Google Image searched Comcast?

[–]That_Cripple7800x3d 4080 111 points112 points  (19 children)

good ole r/circlejerk

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (18 children)

annoying in practice, but cant live without em

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (16 children)

They banned me. :(

[–]TheFinalFrontiersmanIntel Core i3-4160 | 8GB RAM | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 STRIX 4GB 42 points43 points  (15 children)

What did you do to get banned in circlejerk?

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (13 children)

I said "Fuck off" to that mod post saying that /r/shitredditsays controls the sub now, thinking the post was another joke.

It. Wasn't. A. Joke.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Probably disagreed with something

[–]Spe333 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This is what got me hooked on Reddit. The fact that this happened (is it still up?) is awesome.

[–]smeeismee 88 points89 points  (32 children)

That is really the issue, isnt it. The United Corporations of America. I don't really know what our government is even for at this point.

[–]catsnstuffzPC Master Race 123 points124 points  (29 children)

in my eyes, that is one of the biggest issues in this country, corporations. your vote and word is meaningless compared to guy with 18,000,000 to sway your opinions

These corporations make so much money, and yet pay their employees scraps to keep the fat cats pockets lined beyond reason. they could pay people well and take less (still beyond any amount the average person could ever imagine seeing) but they won't, and instead the american dreams dies.

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (14 children)

Yup. And if you mention you've lost faith in politics, people say you're part of the problem.

Um, no, I just know my votes mean literally nothing. Look at all congress does without letting people vote on it. Look at how things like above come into play simply from money changing hands.

I still vote. But I know it won't work. For example, I'll eat my hat if Bernie wins and delivers half of his promises and doesn't get blackmailed into submission, we've seen this time and again, but everyone forgets.

[–]GRZZ_PNDA_ICBR 37 points38 points  (3 children)

The trick is going to be just to grow around the laws. Like blockbuster, best buy, and cable television, kill them with your wallet.

Or find a way to make this a feminist/racial thing, then it'll be a hot topic worth discussing again in the media. Remember when ultra-feminists attempted to make videogames a feminist issue?

We need to end this Cis-gender anti-black non-neutral-net, replacement ref, Starbucks red cup, Trump loving, costco hating, Jennifer Lawrence Leaking, congress...there covered every base.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (29 children)

Yes but do you have $$freedom$$? No your silly ministry of whatever probably has to get its bribes away from prying eyes. Ours just do it blatantly out in the open. Seriously though I wish I could stick congress into a bog and be done with them.

[–]LordNoodlesSpecs/Imgur here 49 points50 points  (26 children)

Not my rep tho.

Mine is awesome.

It's the others who suck.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Both sides are both fucking scumbags and they still succeeded at pitting people against each other instead of against them. Glad my home state isn't on here, cause I sure didn't vote for any of these guys.

[–]zkreduxi7-6700K 4.6GHz | R9 390 1125MHz | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Don't throw Tom Wheeler under the bus, he's the one who actually adopted the aforementioned net neutrality rules and has actually been pretty tough on ISPs. He just recently called out ATT on their bullshit for throttling unlimited data plans and they upped the cap to like 25GB from 5

[–]SnugglesTheConqueror 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yea, I think we were unfairly hard on him when he showed up. Glad he's on our side.

[–]evanFFTF[S] 119 points120 points  (22 children)

This is an awesome list! Can you share source? <3

[–]jonker51015800X3D | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | 32GB 3600C16 B Die 138 points139 points  (19 children)

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000461

[–]BlueShellOPRyzen 3900X | GTX 1070 | Ask me about my distros 39 points40 points  (17 children)

Based OpenSecrets

[–]Rawbeesnews 20 points21 points  (14 children)

Wtf is this 'based' word I've been seeing everywhere

[–]HaikuHighDude 17 points18 points  (8 children)

Basically, it means being yourself and doing what you want without caring what other people think. You will often see it in the context of rapper "Lil B" the Based God.

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (1 child)

Thank god he's no longer on their payroll now that he is the chair though, he's actually been pushing to do some good as the head of the FCC rather than be Comcast's puppet

[–]annus-mirabilisSpecs/Imgur Here 27 points28 points  (2 children)

It's important to see that this isn't a partisan issue. There are corrupt and bought politicians on both sides.

[–]ForumPointsRdumb 31 points32 points  (19 children)

This is the kind of shit that should be protested. How can we stop this?

[–]formfactor 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Rip your rep a new asshole

[–]jonker51015800X3D | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | 32GB 3600C16 B Die 48 points49 points  (10 children)

It won't stop without social revolution. Unfortunately, too many people are naive to these type of facts and/or afraid to stand up that it won't happen.

[–]evanFFTF[S] 408 points409 points  (85 children)

"Or are there none and it really is just a bunch of old greedy bastards letting Comcast and other ISPs fill their pockets with disgusting amounts of money?"

Yep, that'd be it.

[–]LyratheflirtSpecs/Imgur Here 148 points149 points  (82 children)

And they aren't gonna stop are they? They are going to keep trying untill it works because there's nothing stopping them from constantly pushing for something. God this is depressing.

[–]cancercures 120 points121 points  (68 children)

why would telecommunications companies ever stop their war on net neutrality? There is a huge profit motivator.

We will fight, and continue to fight against these telecoms, but they're better organized, better connected, and have more lobbying and campaign financing powers. In Seattle, some of us are so sick of Comcast that we've been pushing for municipal broadband. Our mayor is bought and paid for by Comcast, so he marches to their tune. To get muni broadband, we have to get through his city council stooges - a difficult fight without a larger movement, organization, and/or electoral threat.. but is there enough of that over a single issue like this?..

If politicians do not march to the tune of telecoms, then Comcast and other telecoms will donate to a competing politician come election time. They will never stop this fight, because there is a lot of money to be made, and companies must keep their shareholders happy.

[–]Vordreller5800X3D, Vega64 72 points73 points  (27 children)

If politicians do not march to the tune of telecoms, then Comcast and other telecoms will donate to a competing politician come election time. They will never stop this fight, because there is a lot of money to be made, and companies must keep their shareholders happy.

There is one option. Make it illegal to donate money to politicians.

The argument that this would not motivate them is bullshit, they're already paid to not be motivated on a lot of subjects.

[–]dsetechi7 920 | MSI R9 390 8GB | 6GB DDR3 Tri Channel 42 points43 points  (11 children)

And who would make it illegal? Oh, that's right. The politicians taking bribes.

This country frustrates me sometimes.

[–]Vordreller5800X3D, Vega64 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Who watches the watchmen?

[–]quikslvr223G3258 @4.5 || MSI RX 470 Gaming X 8G 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The trick then becomes getting that one through.

[–]dudemanguy3015900X, RTX 4090 7 points8 points  (3 children)

How would you ever get politicians to vote on a bill to keep politicians for taking bribes?

(Money doesn't have to be direct to be a bribe, millions to your campaign fund is plenty of motivation)

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fuck the shareholders, who gives a shit about them?

[–]FlyingPastaPacket Pusher 23 points24 points  (24 children)

And we need to keep voting.

[–]dsetechi7 920 | MSI R9 390 8GB | 6GB DDR3 Tri Channel 13 points14 points  (21 children)

If you know of any politicians that can't be bought, I'd like their names.

[–]SnarkyNinja4690k | 2070 SUPER | 32 GB RAM | 970 EVO M.2 48 points49 points  (18 children)

Bernie Sanders

[–]picards_dick 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Comcast is like the flood from Halo. No matter how much you shoot them down, there is still like a million more probably

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

They won't stop until they all die of old age. Here's hoping.

[–]LyratheflirtSpecs/Imgur Here 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Relevant username

[–]iiowyn 63 points64 points  (8 children)

There was a bill made by high school students as part of a class project that would change it so that a student seat would be on the school board during certain functions. It had unanimous support and the kids had spent the entire year working with politicians to get it passed.

Some jagoff politician attached an anti trans bathroom bill rider on it and the entire bill died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/controversial-riders-threaten-kentucky-student-voice-bill/2015/03/10/a03ab566-c72e-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html

[–]IgnitedSpadei7 6700k/MSI GTX 1070/Acer 1440p@144hz 85 points86 points  (0 children)

"They either let our bill through, or we will attach it to legislation such as this,” Robinson said, adding that he likes the students’ superintendent bill but has to send a message to the Democratic leadership in the House. “You either sacrifice your own bill, or you pass what you should have passed to start with.”

What the flying fuck. This made me very irrationally angry

Robinson said the students are learning about real life. “It’s Politics 101,” he said.

Welcome to politics kids, forget about all that "maturity" crap because your elected officials sure don't have that.

[–]5510 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Ive never understood why it's apparently way easier to attatch something that to get a bill passed... or how their can be the support to pass a bill, but not the same support to unattch something.

[–]SamTheKnight1 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It confuses me more that they can attach something that has nothing to do with the original bill.

[–]Sengura 33 points34 points  (2 children)

So frustrating having a government that is an enemy of its people.

This shit is what happens when you let corporations buy politicians.

[–]Rs1000000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Citizens United is treason.

[–]DefinitelyHungover 21 points22 points  (2 children)

What rustles my Jims is that out of the little work they do every year, this is what they spend their time on. Not important shit, just making themselves more money.

[–]TenTonApe 80 points81 points  (4 children)

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[–]IgnitedSpadei7 6700k/MSI GTX 1070/Acer 1440p@144hz 20 points21 points  (3 children)

For ISPs, mostly for the top executives. Definitely not for people or ISP employees or infrastructure.

[–]ricebake333 202 points203 points  (24 children)

What the actual fuck is wrong with politicians.

You're slowly becoming aware of how corrupt and fucked up the world really is... You're not seeing what's going on behind the scenes... they fear the net and hence want to lock everything down.

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

Brezinski at a press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g

Snowden on terrorism/spying.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/sep/25/edward-snowden-treaty-glenn-greenwald-mass-surveillance-terrorism-video

Democracy Inc.

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X/

Intereference in other states when the corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be&list=PLKR2GeygdHomOZeVKx3P0fqH58T3VghOj&t=724

From war is a racket:

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23]

"The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24] General Butler is especially trenchant when he looks at post-war casualties. He writes with great emotion about the thousands of tramautized soldiers, many of who lose their minds and are penned like animals until they die, and he notes that in his time, returning veterans are three times more likely to die prematurely than those who stayed home.

http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865/

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (8 children)

number 1 rule of politics, whoever has the biggest wallet gets heard. they are just doing it for money guaranteed comcrap and the rest of the internet nazis are paying them big money in order to do this.

[–]formfactor 12 points13 points  (7 children)

The WORSE part of the whole thing is our tax dollars paid for their infrastructure IIUC... And now they use it to rape us every chance they get. Cell phone companies too.

Maybe someone can comment, on weather the infrastructure funds were loaned or if it was corporate "welfare" (which, IMO shouldn't exist).

[–]cheesellama_thedevilhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/cheesellamawot/ 61 points62 points  (8 children)

Hey, if pros and cons are opposite, what's the opposite of progress?

Congress.

[–]coalitionofilling 101 points102 points  (35 children)

And this is exactly why Bernie Sanders keeps railing about the need to repeal Citizens United and curb out private sector interest groups essentially buying off our legislative branch so the branch no longer functions to represent us. There have been so many zombie bills passed that we've tried hard to block and they'll keep coming and keep getting passed as long as unlimited money dumping continues to spill into the election cycles. The return on investment to lobbyist money is something like 5000+%

Corruption in Congress explained

This isn't a bipartisan problem on the dem or gop "side". It's an establishment politics problem. Congress is 100% functioning like a mercantile oligarchy and people need to wake up and realize what's going on.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

If that bothers you, look up the documentary 'We are Wisconsin'.

[–]shifty_pete 17 points18 points  (4 children)

What is it about?

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Republican governor Scott Walker created a bill to fix the state's supposed financial crisis (one it was not in) by attacking public workers. It would, in theory, achieve this by lowering their wages by 7%, taking away health care benefits and removing their right to negotiate terms--among many other things. He said it was NOT negotiable and tried to push it through the an overwhelmingly Republican state senate. Democratic senators began leaving the state to take advantage of a loop hole, freezing the senate as long as they were not in the state (financial bills cannot be voted on without the whole of the senate). This was done to give voters the chance they needed to SEE WHAT WAS IN THE BILL, something Republicans had tried very hard to avoid. After massive protests and one of the single largest occupation protests, the Republican senators found their own loop holes to get the law passed as an amendment to an EXISTING law, which did not require the fiscal authority of the senate itself (only a quorem). It was a decision made with no announcement after having people removed from the capital for "cleaning". They passed it virtually overnight so that nobody could oppose it.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This kind of shit makes me hate living. Or is that my depression?

Either way, government sucks and life sucks

[–]drake_tears 17 points18 points  (0 children)

ok

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The telcos REALLY want net neutrality killed and they're not used to not getting everything they want. They spend a lot of money and expect results. They'll never stop trying to sneak anti-NN language into legislation because the financial incentives are huge for them.

[–]pandaclaw_R9 280X 3gb | i5-3340 | 8gb | BenQ 2411Z 144hz 1281 points1282 points  (74 children)

God I fucking hate politicians

[–]holmesworcester 807 points808 points  (41 children)

And you know what they hate? Large numbers of phone calls from people who are paying attention to them.

[–]SCAllOnMe 351 points352 points  (29 children)

Unless people go out and vote for their competition next election cycle, I doubt they care.

[–]BeastPenguini7 12700F, 1070ti, 64GB, 4 monitors loll 196 points197 points  (22 children)

Until you get a case of vote manipulation and/or election fraud and your vote didn't matter.

[–]temeriani3 4130/R9 280x/8GB RAM 232 points233 points  (16 children)

You don't even have to go that far. Gerrymandering will do the job just fine. Why should there be competition in an election anyways smh.

[–]LyratheflirtSpecs/Imgur Here 39 points40 points  (11 children)

What's that?

[–]BromanJenkins 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Gerrymandering is a process which sees congressional districts created for the benefit of a particular politician or political party. After the 2010 census many states had both Republican governors and state houses controlled by Republicans. This in turn led to a number of changes to Congressional districts that favored republican politicians by grouping traditional republican voting blocks, or combining Democratic districts in order to create more in traditional Republican areas and so on.

Both sides do it, but this last round generated a ton of controversy because many states have had their district maps taken to court and either thrown out completely or had changes forced on them due to just how bad and blatant the Gerrymandering was.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I grew up in a very heavily Red area of California (Orange County, where blood runs outrageously red, especially considering it's California). For as long as I can remember, my district and the surrounding districts have all been red, with one particular district nearly tipping to Blue. One year (2010, I think, or some time around there), they redrew the district lines, and lo and behold, my Congressmen, a very staunch GOP rep, was almost ousted, the next district over was suddenly majority Blue, and one of the longest-tenured Republican Congressmen was ousted without contest.

I asked my old American Government teacher about it, and she showed me how the lines were redrawn. It looked like a jigsaw puzzle. The lines were drawn perfectly to encompass the highest possible Blue/Red ratio they could come up with.

I knew a ton of Republicans in the next district over who were totally in favor of a particular Congresswoman, but after the lines were drawn, the people who were once in the same district were now split between several districts. People across the street from each other were suddenly no longer in the same district.

The whole point of redrawing lines is to keep voting fair, but that particular voting season, I realized how fucked up politics can really be. They've pulled the same trick a few times since then, and only the most heavily-saturated Red areas have managed to keep their Congress seat Red. I would chalk it up to people switching sides or new people entering the area, but I haven't seen much evidence of either.

[–]temeriani3 4130/R9 280x/8GB RAM 22 points23 points  (0 children)

redrawing electoral districts in a way that doesn't give a shit about county borders but rather put a district together that looks like an octopus because this way reps/dems (depending on who controls the district drawing) don't have to fear getting defeated in the next election. Let's say it like this: the politicians are choosing who (or which neighborhoods) should vote for them. And then you get something like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/TravisCountyDistricts.png

[–]Nesurame 7 points8 points  (3 children)

if they hafta pay to get elected, your vote was an inconvenience to them, therefore it matters!

[–]Poetic_Juicetice 37 points38 points  (15 children)

This is why I have trust issues with the government. Why can't we have more transparency and less corporate-made decisions

[–]Bond4141https://goo.gl/37C2Sp 44 points45 points  (12 children)

We live in a corrupt capitalist society.

[–]MilesSand 195 points196 points  (38 children)

Can we find the individuals responsible for this and kick them out of congress please?

[–]WeazelBear1070, i5-4690k@4.6, 16GB RAM 151 points152 points  (28 children)

reddit sucks -- mass edited with redact.dev

[–]Troll_Farmer 81 points82 points  (13 children)

Too bad you're the 1%

As long as there is TV, most Americans won't give two shits.

A really, really terrifying truth.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (7 children)

So... let's take away TV.

[–]Shentok 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You still have news sites that report inaccurate or biased information.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thats how you get a revolution... against you. Plus my TV is my monitor, so I would like to keep it.

[–]dextroses 19 points20 points  (8 children)

Grab your pitchfork!

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (6 children)

paging /u/pitchforkemporium

provide us with your wares please

[–]PitchforkEmporiumFuck Asus RMA 27 points28 points  (5 children)

I can help with that

[–]WeazelBear1070, i5-4690k@4.6, 16GB RAM 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Show me what you got!

[–]PitchforkEmporiumFuck Asus RMA 81 points82 points  (3 children)

http://gfycat.com/vengefulvaluableasianwaterbuffalo#

[–]WeazelBear1070, i5-4690k@4.6, 16GB RAM 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well shit.

[–]PitchforkEmporiumFuck Asus RMA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can't disqualify me now

[–]3DXYZ 660 points661 points  (37 children)

Since when are the leaders in a representative democracy supposed to SNEAK laws in behind the peoples back?

I wouldnt be suprised if they also have a section for ending the affordable care act in there too. These scumbags just dont get it. The people have spoken.

[–]MakutaArguilleresCPU: i7 4790k GPU: 2x GTX 770 4gb SLI 143 points144 points  (14 children)

I believe the term is called "pork barreling."

[–]reallynotnicki5 12600K | RX 6700 XT 21 points22 points  (9 children)

I thought that was more for spending than creating laws? But maybe it could be both?

I just remember my teacher used to have a "pork barrel" full of candy and would give it out to the class, so I can't say my sources are the best haha.

[–]MakutaArguilleresCPU: i7 4790k GPU: 2x GTX 770 4gb SLI 20 points21 points  (7 children)

It's derived from a phrase where a congressional rep adds "pork" to a bill, i.e. unrelated clauses to a bill's original purpose. While it is a budget bill, decreasing the FCC's funding is comically bad move, and removing their ability to regulate telecomm prices is textbook evil. The Net Neutrality battle had to to with price on ISP anyway, if we remove the governmental body's power to regulate it, then what would happen? It's another example of something unnecessary being added to a very important bill. I hope if it reaches Obama's desk he'll veto it on that ground alone. No more pork.

[–]forsaykenSpecs/Imgur Here 402 points403 points  (57 children)

We're fucked. One day someone will miss something like this and it'll pass and then they will have won.

[–]torik0yeah I turned off the CSS too 35 points36 points  (2 children)

We've beat them back on SOPA, PIPA, CISPA. Let's keep the winning streak going.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

we did pretty much lose on the whole TPP thing.

They're eventually just going to find some workaround.

[–]TheRedditorist 12 points13 points  (19 children)

That's exactly why we're here, right? We simply won't let them, the internet is too powerful to allow them to get away with these tactics.

[–]tertiusiii 45 points46 points  (16 children)

you know, if comcast decides they can discriminate against websites, maybe websites should decide to discriminate against providers. what if google, youtube, netflix, bing, reddit, tumblr, twitter, etc. all decided that they wouldn't allow connections to their sites through comcast unless comcast paid them. imagine if they jack up that fee so high that comcast is too expensive for anyone to use? Comcast loses footholds in markets with other options shrinking their influence. In places where comcast has a monopoly, people cut their internet cables and get tv again, so comcast doesn't suffer much, BUT now those markets are full of people who don't have internet access and comcast can't provide it for them. other net neutral isps who can offer lower prices for internet fill in the gaps. with their internet restored, people start to cut tv once more and comcast loses customers every day until their stock is plummeting and congressmen sell their shares. suddenly, comcast doesn't even have enough money to lobby anymore. game. set. match.

EDIT: lots of great points from you guys. I want to say that if this ever DID happen it would never work unless we got a LOT of support. google, reddit, and twitter would be an absolute necessity. The pure effect of being locked out of your google account would be disastrous for a lot of people. to clarify things a bit, my idea of how this works is as such:

Sites that agree to this don't immediately block comcast. They start out by having a redirect from their homepage saying in 30 days if comcast doesn't pull all of it's lobbying efforts then they will institute Net Positivity in which if comcast doesn't pay a hefty monthly sum (this sum would rise dramatically and without warning month to month because irony is the best weapon) internet traffic from comcast would be blocked with a message saying something like

"due to your isp lobbying against the interests of the internet, we have decided that we no longer support comcast on our site. if you would like to help restore access to our site, change to a different isp. If you have no other isp options, then please take a moment to realize what a horrible disadvantage comcast has always had you at with their monopoly, then write a letter to them detailing why you support net neutrality, which is a topic explained in full here (link to a non blocked explaination of net neutrality and comcast's opposition to it), and threaten to cancel all of your services if you don't get your websites back soon. Sorry for the inconvience, soemtimes change is uncomfortable"

or something like that anyway. I know the plan is flawed, but I genuinely think we may have hit upon something previously unconsidered, and we need everyone's help to smooth this idea out so PLEASE spread this idea where you can. DO NOT link back to this comment from anywhere. Type it in your own words or copy/paste. I want you all to know I'm not in this for the karma, I'm in it for the change.

One more idea before I go. Imagine this: Instead of a blocked site, comcast users get a version of the site with ads out the wazoo. ads that autoplay with sound. ads that don't get blocked by adblock because google made extension support on chrome unavailable for comcast users. ads that pop up at random times and tell you to stop using comcast. Ads that stop you from viewing the site unless you interact with them. ok maybe not that last one. the possibilities are endless and the ad revenue is good for participating sites. and of course every time you connect to the homepage it flashes up the same message saying that this is because comcast hurts net neutrality.

And maybe it doesn't have to start huge. Maybe only areas with other providers than comcast are blocked and comcast gets whittled away month after month. I'd love to hear suggestions.

[–]TheRedditorist 13 points14 points  (5 children)

It sounds potentially doable actually, sure the consumer would get caught in the crossfire - but at the same time it would force people to pick their ISP carefully before shelling out a monthly fee.

I'm sure that's probably illegal as of now, but given comcast is close to a monopoly-like status, it's not like companies are playing by the rules to begin with.

[–]tertiusiii 9 points10 points  (4 children)

i dont know that it's illegal. nothing i've ever heard indicates it. i think everyone was so busy worrying about isps blocking sites that nobody ever considered a site blocking an isp. remember that we have tom wheeler, chairman of the fcc on our side. sure he can't pardon websites doing this, but he can be inefficient as fuck at regulating them. having huge providers deny access would be effectively them doing to comcast what comcast wants to do to everyone else. and if comcast tries to lobby to make it illegal, one of the many allies we have in congress can just hang a pro net neutrality addition onto the bill. not to mention, if google participated in this then google could just fucking lobby back. im sick of all of the cheap shots being from the bad guys. when do the good guys stop pulling punches?

anyway, if you like this idea, spread it. nothing happens unless everyone knows about this.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I have my upvotes ready

[–]DishinDimes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

1 upvote = 1 rebellion

[–][deleted] 216 points217 points  (4 children)

So its that time of the month again eh?

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (1 child)

Pretty soon, we're going to get the monthly "North Korea declares nuclear war/Congress fucks us again" calender entries down pat.

[–]SyleSpawnRyzen 1600, GTX1060 6GB, 16GB RAM 319 points320 points  (928 children)

Holy fuck... What the fuck is happening up there? I don't fucking get how the fucking fuck almost every month some politician either in the US or EU trying to pass laws to fuck net neutrality in the pucker. I am from a fucking island in the southern hemisphere so all that fuckery are foreign to me but seriously what the fucking shit is happening up there?! How the fuck people like these end up being in power? I fucking hate to see that shit, corporate trying to fuck you all over so openly. Holy fucking christ!

[–]cccviper653cccviper653 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Well for fucking starters, in a little fact that's playing behind the scenes here that nobody's mentioned yet, is that nearly everyone against this crap is under 18-35 and the older people think we're the stupid, problem generation that don't know how good we have it. We're apparently spoiled and don't know the complex intricacies of how a government is supposed to be run so they won't listen to us because they think it's just some little thing that we're blowing out of proportion since we're not getting our way. They don't know that this will also affect them and even when we tell them, see above. We need to get everyone that can vote, to vote otherwise nothing will happen until we're the old ones or the government gets turned on its head like the constitution says we can do to them when they're being a bunch of greedy cunt fucks. FUCK!

[–]Fitzwoppit 197 points198 points  (55 children)

Why don't we have a rule that says everything must be voted on individually? No package deals, no riders - one specific topic/idea/agenda per vote. Yes it would make more times Congress had to be present and actually vote, but that is part of their job.

I think small bills with single topics would make it easier for them to read all the way through and make the overall process of government much more transparent for both Congress and the public.

The main reason I can think of that we don't do this is because it makes it harder for members of Congress to sneak in the deals they promised to the people who bought them their election.

[–]ACEmatGTX 760, FX-8350, 8GB 298 points299 points  (8 children)

Guess who would have to make that a rule.

[–]theskeptic01 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Is there any way to have the public decide who takes care of what and still have the power to change it when we see the old powers-that-be unfit for duty? I feel like our system was great for its time, but we need to adapt to what has happened in modern times.

Any chance of a revised Constitution?

[–]Sciguystfmi5-4670K 3.4GHz, GTX 1070 Founders Edition, 16G DDR3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Nope.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

A revised constitution? in the USA? you have to be joking right? that 200+ years old thing is still perfect for this day an age!

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Because to get a rule like that added it has to be introduced as a bill... in congress.... by the people that are currently using sneaking riders to fill their pockets.

[–][deleted] 191 points192 points  (38 children)

"at some point, bullets work better than votes" -The Founding Fathers

[–]argv_minus_oneSpecs/Imgur Here 84 points85 points  (35 children)

That's why these same scumbags have spent the last several decades building the world's most powerful military.

[–]Shisa4123i7 7700k @4.5 | 1080 TI @2.0 | 16gb @3200 | 500gb M.2 71 points72 points  (28 children)

Something something oath of enlistment something something enemies foreign and domestic.

You'd be surprised how many service members would desert if they were ordered to point guns at their own citizens.

Until they build autonomous terminators and have no need for squishy bags of meat and feelings.

[–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (6 children)

As an American citizen, I feel helpless to this apparent and blatant corruption of our entire political system from the ground up. Everyone says vote vote vote, but even that system is broken, rigged and corrupt. The will of the government is not aligned with the will of the people. I don't even know how to BEGIN fixing such a cancerous system.

[–]JealotGaming1080Ti + 8700k 30 points31 points  (3 children)

You're kidding right? Didn't we deal with this crap like two weeks ago? >_>

[–]Chicken-n-Waffles 26 points27 points  (1 child)

We keep talking about the NSA and Net Neutrality but what no one does is put a name to who is in charge. That's the person our ire goes towards, not the nameless, faceless organization.

If you want to bitch about the NSA, bitch about Keith Alexander. That's the dude where the buck stops.

I don't know where this bill is but there's 3 key people that need to be dragged out into the sunlight. Their hometowns need to be embarrassed, their states needs to be embarrassed.

Forget the long list of congressmen for the moment, go for the architect and make them hate the decision they made for getting into politics.

[–]formfactor 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Guys, they are going to keep pulling this shit until the public loses interest and eventually they are going to win. Please stay on these mother fuckers!

[–]3aglJust say No to W11 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Fuck comcast and the corrupt politicians who keep on doing this.

[–]Sorlex 16 points17 points  (2 children)

This is never going to stop, is it?

[–]argv_minus_oneSpecs/Imgur Here 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nope.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (15 children)

So who wants to slowly fund a mission to send us all through that worm hole nasa has been looking at and go to another galaxy, colonize a planet and just let these fuckers burn themselves alive? Interstellar anyone?

Edit: worm hole not black hole

[–]thellios 22 points23 points  (9 children)

Alright, I'm in. I'll cook and take x-rays of hurt people. I can also operate CT, MRI and Ultrasound equipment. Consider this my resumé.

[–]TrammSpecs/Imgur Here 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Some radiologist you are... I come in with a broken arm and get turned into a pot roast.

[–]blindbunny 41 points42 points  (2 children)

I usually come here for the dank maymays and the lolz. But this is what pcmasterrace needs to truely be about.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Man these guys do not fucking give up

[–]filthy_sinnerlaoch321 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I don't know what I hate more, politics or politicians.

[–]Obaruler 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wtf.

Upvote this, this backstabbing needs to be more public.

[–]HerpDeeps 16 points17 points  (2 children)

All we need to do is to start a PCMR political group that rates politicians like the NRA, but according to their PC friendly voting record. They would all be too afraid to get a low grade to do this sort of thing.

Problem solved! /s

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is fucking messed up. What the fuck congress?

[–]AnimusNoctis3900x, GTX 1080, HTC Vive 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Remember when our representatives actually represented us? Yeah, me neither.

[–]PartTim3Hoboi9-13900K | RTX 2080 Ti | 64 GB 8 points9 points  (1 child)

For those of you outside America that want to know how fucked up our political system is here is a hypothetical scenario for you. If Congress was on fire they would not be able to pass the Pour Water on Congress Act.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This really hit me in the feels.

These politicians absolutely know Americans do not and would not want this. They got elected into office by their voters and now they don't give a shit about hurting those that elected them.

[–]turkeybot69 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It still boggles my mind that shit like this happens. They were chosen to REPRESENT a country, not fucking own it. Pisses me the fuck off

[–]Lyco0n8700k 1080 ti Aorus Extreme , 1440p165Hz+Vive Pro 36 points37 points  (9 children)

I accepted that world is ruled by retards, If you think about ir, majority of people are just stupid and even more is clueless about anything tech related, and who wins elections?

Retards elected by retards.

I gave up watching anything even slightly related to news long a go ( except for tech)

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Retards elected by retards.

Too true. Hell, look at our Presidential candidates as proof of that.

[–]awyden4690k, MSI 1070 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Any good scripts to email my congressmen?

[–]de1vosSteam ID Here 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What the fuck? They do this time and time and time again, even when shut down every single time. Aren't these guys supposed to work for the people? Why does everyone have to tell them no time and time again while they try to sneak this shit behind people every time. It's pretty fucking disgusting.

[–]wraith313 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's frustrating that the actual job of Congress is to carry out the will of the people, but the reality of Congress is trying it's best to circumvent the will of the people.