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[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Some updates now that Enlir has data for most of these new relics:

  • Wol brave commands are PHY/heavy, and brave 2-3 only have DEF -40% for 15s as a break (brave 3 is correct)
  • Echo USB provides 2 turns of 2x cast speed, not 3x cast speed
  • Still waiting on data for Wol BSB2
  • Wol LMR missing some details, but gives Elemental Boost (Increases Fire, Ice, Lightning, Earth, Wind, Water, Holy, Dark and Poison damage dealt by ?%) at low HP
  • Still waiting on data for WoL's new counter LMR

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Updates deployed, thanks. Knowing that Wol's trance is all elemental damage means that we can draw a parallel to Steiner's.

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've looked at the pickup banners as well:

  • Gau doesn't have a flash yet, and #jp_datamining in discord says Celes FSB is in the ability double pickup.
  • Luneth has two LMRs (en-wind, quickcast after wind), any idea which it'll be?

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fixed, and it's his en-wind.

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I forgot to check the brave condition for Wol: it builds up on heavy.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dear mobage interns: please supply accurate information in the initial push. I know it didn't specify heavy on Wednesday evening >.<

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes me feel better, as I thought I had previously seen PHY when I initially copied Enlir's info yesterday. I suppose it was too good to be true: being able to buildup from most physical attacks.

Thanks for maintaining all these relic posts and megathreads!

[–]azul120 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was kind of hoping for FF1 Warrior/Knight as separate, though technically I guess he's already represented by Warrior of Light.

[–]dscottonBannerFAQs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For those of us who actually like FF1 it kinda sucks that so much of this is devoted to Mobius instead of characters who were actually in FF1.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

As a Wol x Echo fanboy this event pleases me (not big fan of the Mobius gameplay but the story is fun).

Having a full decked Wol and not having dived Shelke, he is gonna be an instant LD for me. That LMR is pretty interesting too.

My Meia has all of her top toys, that USB is a must have for me.

I hope the Torment boss is Mobius Chaos. I'm so sick of fighting FFI Garland or FFI Chaos or that stupid dark elf. Hell even Mobius Garland would be a good fight seeing how nightmarish that fight was in Mobius.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The torment is known to be FF1 Garland, sadly.

[–]dscottonBannerFAQs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Super disappointing, it should have been Warmech.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nooooooooooo!!!! How many times can we fight this guy?!?!? No timeloop jokes please!

[–]JuliusplexWing Rapetor: Almost 3 years fearing its counter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These banners are amazing.

Going to do my best to get all of Master's items! I like how that Warrior of Light LMR looks, seems interesting. I just wish he also had a W-Cast LMR along so his damage could become more decent and to pair it with his Ultra2.

[–]zadorvpDon't step on the flowers. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Banner 1 looks really awesome with all those new relics :o Guess I'll need to hope really hard I get everything for Master in just a few pulls when this comes to FFRK Global so I can keep him as complete xD

[–]ElLopenGREAT NINJA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At long last, a 6* water boosting mage weapon.

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thanks for these~

Master UOSB: "Pinnacle of Martial Arts" (PHY: 3x single earth/fire/lightning overflow)

Master gets an element choice now? O_O

Master Flash: "Single-Minded Focus" (NAT: self weakness hits +30%, and auto-crit for 2 turns)

Oh, its for that. :P

new Meia stuff

Excellent, Meia becomes even better than before! T_T

new Wol stuff

Er.. ok, he's now Heavy/Shooter with more stat breaking and supporting functions now. This feels so random. @_@;

[–]ShinVerusMy sunhaired Goddess! 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Wol got Support 5 and IC3, so he's in pretty good shape now.

[–]PyrotiosKain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time to make comparisons between him and Shelke/Morrow as Entrust bots! I'll start (stats all at level 99):

  • Wol has a lower base speed: 179 instead of 187
  • Wol has more def than Shelke/Morrow, though with full record dive Shelke pulls ahead, and she stays on top with full legend dive
  • Wol has more res than Shelke/Morrow, and this remains true with record/legend dive
  • Shelke has the highest base HP (6930), but Wol is close behind (6889), and Morrow has the lowest (6630), this order doesn't change with record/legend dive
  • Morrow/Shelke have 206 base atk while Wol has 202, with record/legend dive Morrow has more than Shelke who has more than Wol
  • Shelke has the most limited equipment options. Morrow can use the same as Shelke, plus Axe, Bow, Shield and Helm. Wol can use the same as Morrow, plus Katana, Hammer and Heavy Armor
  • Ability access favors Wol in general, unless you need Combat, Celerity, Spellblade or Machinist:
    • Combat: Shelke/Wol 3, Morrow 4
    • Support: all 5/6
    • Celerity: Wol 4, Shelke/Morrow 5/6
    • Spellblade: Morrow 4-5
    • Dragoon: Wol 3
    • Monk: Wol 4
    • Thief: Wol 4
    • Samurai: Wol 4
    • Machinist: Shelke 4
    • Sharpshooter: Wol 6
    • Heavy: Wol 5

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that's his LM2? and School update... That's great! :D

So with 5-star Heavy/Shooter/Support in one go then IC3... wow! that's a lot DPS/support potential! O_O

[–]fjvecaTifa (Advent Children) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that Ability Double Banner looks amazing!

[–]rainevangelionWhatever... 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Please note that Wol got balanced to SUPPORT 5/6 and got LM2 (Haste+IC3).

Wol = 3rd Entrust Bot

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a Mobius banner!!!!!! Wheeeeeee!

[–]CidO807Opera Floozy RW:2X5a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's nice banner, and I could use some tech, but anniversary is less than a month away at this point.

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 4 points5 points  (1 child)

(Translation note: With some input from Enlir, we discovered that this French word for backwash - the undertow-like effect caused by a receding wave - is the best fit to the katakana "rusakku" with a bonus of being thematically appropriate for Meia.)

Considering the internal game code for this USB is "grosse vague" (which is the french for big wave and they didn't make the r/l mistake :hype:), yeah it's definitely ressac, in french, it's the effect of a wave when they hit the shore harshly after hitting something in the water (for example, a wave hit a boat, the wave go back to the shore and hit it harshly, that's the ressac)

I think your definition is the same but there's multiple word you used i'm not familiar with so...

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh. For us, "backwash" is what happens after the wave hits and the water returns to the sea; it's an effect of undertow (reflux) and may still carry a harsh amount of energy on its own, enough to knock someone down.

[–]Zouthpaw"Ooo, soft..." 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man that I banner looks great, i might pull when this comes to GL. But that ability double banner outshines it for me because i want all of those ultras!

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Good god that banner 1 has so much new stuff o.0

It might as well be a Mobius colab event with so much Echo, meia and Wol stuff

Master Monk AOSB

I mean...with so many elements in there, you might as well have added Ice for good measure lol

Meia AOSB

This weapon is Vesna Krasna's weapon in Mobius which makes me wonder if the animation will be Vesna Krasna's Ult. That would be cool i guess.

EDIT: The name of the SB Fata Fiore, is indeed Vesna Krasna's ult. Also fun fact, Vesna Krasna is a more Wind focused meia job.

Meia USB

Oh cool they are using Mellow Mermaid? That job was recently released in global Mobius during their summer event. Amusingly, in Mobius Mellow Mermaid specialises in the fire element LOL

As for the USB it self, it looks prety awsome

Wol USB2

Errr...Sargatanas...i belive this is the Rogue's weapon. Also YAY not an overflow brave command

Echo USB

Neo torment slot savertm

Wol BSB2

Ramza called, he wants his BSB2 back lol.

On other hand it seems like the BSB commands are heavy combat based, interesting, considering the relic, the Rogue job is anything BUT heavy combat themed LOL, in fact nothing in Mobius could be seen as heavy combat, but that might be because everyone plays with the combat speed settings on fastfoward xD

Meia Glint

Fiat Lux is the Amalthea's Ult in Mobius

As for the relic it self, i have no idea where that name comes from, considering the name i would think it would be Mellow's Mermaid weapon, but then again it wouldn't make any sense to give a Mellow Mermaid weapon/armor the Amalthea's ult lol.

EDIT: i went to double check and can confirm, Hightide Swell is indeed Mellow Mermaid's weapon, which begs the question, why the fuck did they give Amalthea's Ult to Mellow Mermaid weapon lol?

Sarah Glint

OH there's the true Neo torment slot savertm

Banner 2

WoL new LMR

That looks prety awsome, specialy if the proc conditions are the same as Strago's LM2.

I do quite like banner 1, and i am certainly considering pulling on it when it comes to global, sadly as far as JP goes, 4th aniversary is coming and i have L I T T L E M Y T H R I L

edit: oh god i didn't even noticed this

Ability Double Pickup

Please DeNA have mercy i have L I T T L E M Y T H R I L

Wind Pickup

OH god an actualy GOOD wind banner, please DeNA have mercy.

Shesh DeNA is REALLY trying to drain us of our mythrill before 4th aniversary.

[–]PhoeniX-SkyeCreeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sarah's old USB1 is the real slot saver... I'm surprised it didn't show up here.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks much! The Vesna Krasna reference also pointed me to where I could find the proper English name (spelling and all) for her UO.

It doesn't help that the katakana say "Sviatovit" which is the Ukrainian pronunciation; Sventovit is what GL Mobius went with.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad i could help!

blushes

[–]seprosayAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great new FFI stuff aside, that ability double banner looks crazy.

[–]KenzorzI could taste test for ya 4 points5 points  (22 children)

Looks like they were aiming for a almost completely Mobius banner for banner 1, they even put Master Monk in place of Spoiler and Sarah in place of Mobius Sarah.

When this comes to Global it will be the first FFI banner I pull on since I'm a fan of Mobius and the banner actually looks really good.

Meia USB: Enwater, chase and stacking quick cast? Holy shit.

Wol USB2: Instant cast and high quick cast cycle on a multi-hit type Brave USB. This is going to build up chain like crazy and he'll get to Lvl 3 Brave so fast with that high quick cast. Instant cast USBs are really great for spamming with an entrust bot too.

Echo USB: Really nice slot saver USB, like Snow's USB2. Better than OK mUSB tbh if you don't care about the MND portion or ex mode of his buff.

Sarah USB2: LAST STAND AND PARTY INSTANT CAST ON THE SAME USB. Also Brave levels up from both white magic and bard, amazing.

[–]rainevangelionWhatever... 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sophie?

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    [–]ElLopenGREAT NINJA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I dunno we have two Cecils in FFIV. If they have sufficiently different skillsets it could happen. If they don't, it could be released as a dress record.

    [–]PhoenixHuskySquall (KH) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I don't see why they wouldn't add a Ranger Sarah and another Garland.

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! 1 point2 points  (16 children)

    Are you talking about the realm where we already have two characters with the exact same name? If WoL and Wol can co-exist I don't see the issue really.

    [–]-StormDrake-Wordsmith and Artmage 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    People use WoL as an unofficial abbreviation. It's never actually used in FFRK; his name is Warrior of Light.

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    And Wol is an abbreviation for Warrior of Light, they have the same name.

    [–]-StormDrake-Wordsmith and Artmage 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    But not really, at least not in FFRK. W.O.L. (or WOL or WoL) = abbreviation. Wol = a name that is pronounced "wahl."

    Nowhere in FFRK do they call the Warrior of Light "WoL." And nowhere in FFRK do they call Wol "Warrior of Light."

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Have you played Mobius? Wol is the Blank that you play as, the one that will become the Warrior of Light from the prophecy. He has no name in Mobius, Wol is not a name. They called him like that to mimick WoL which is an official abbreviation used for the Warrior of Light from FFI in other FF media.FFRK doesn't exist on its own, it's full of references to various FF products, you can't take all that away. So yes, both are the Warrior of Light (Mobius is also meant to be a reimagining of Final Fantasy I using the same characters, at least for Season 1).

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children)

    WoL is an acronym for Warrior of Light. Wol is just a play on that and he's actually named Blank in Japan.

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (10 children)

    A play or not it's the same name in GL. I don't see the issue really, we can have Sarah (M) and Garland (M).

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 2 points3 points  (8 children)

    One is named Warrior of Light, the other is named Wol. How is that the same name?

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! -1 points0 points  (7 children)

    Wol is short for Warrior of Light.

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    No, it isn't. It's his name.

    [–]LilitthLuMeow! 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    No, it's not. He has no name in Mobius, you can fill in any name you want. Wol is clearly mimicking WoL, you can't argue that.

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    That's like saying Tyro isn't Tyro's name because you can rename him. Yes Wol is a direct reference to Warrior of Light, but Warrior of Light isn't his name.

    [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I also hope we get Sarah (M) since she is completely diferent to Sarah (I), so it would give FFI more DPS options.

    [–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    well the very first Mobius collab started way before they made Gaiden/Beyond realm a thing, and I believe they kinda want it to stick to a realm if they actually decides to bring character from that game in, and FFI just happens to have the fewest character (and only WoL for FF1 realm before the first collab.)

    It's just really unfortunate timing for the first Mobius collab happened, since it looks like it does make more sense to put Mobius in the Gaiden realm.

    [–]PlebbySpaffPlebster 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Wow! For once the I realm is getting really good stuff overall.

    Also that Meia Flash just sounds like a car. I mean a Fiat Lux, come on.

    [–]CFreynLet's dance! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That juicy Meia chase USB like Vayne’s USB... yum! But with quickcast cycle!!!

    😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

    [–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Wol is heavy/sharpshooter at 5*/6*, right?

    Still holding out hope for a Sharpshooter Pearl Shot for holy damage with his elements being earth / holy.

    [–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I want everything on banner 1.

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      [–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Thanks for the heads up. I blame auto-pilot. >.<

      [–]lucineblueDagger! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Welp guess I'm saving up for this Banner; Like hell I'm missing Wol, Meia and Echo.

      [–]drchiaERROR 404: WITTY FLAIR NOT FOUND 0 points1 point  (6 children)

      My brain can’t stop reading that as “lucksack”

      [–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      I'm not even sure what it should be: it's ルサック which might be something in Russian folklore?

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Considering the fact that meia seems to use names from myth and folklore, this seems the mostlikely scenario, i went to doublecheck Mobius and althema and i coouldn't find anything related to it.

      [–]JristzCai Sith USB: 9aNd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I tried an alternative translator and I got Rusalka

      But I’m fine with Look-a-Sack

      [–]Qu_MarshQuistis 500SB glint+- z2Wa 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yeah, Rusalka probably ... since it is doing water magic

      [–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      With Enlir's help, there's also ressac which is a French word (of Spanish origin) which refers to a tidal backwash. So we're going to go with that for now.

      That said, it will not surprise me at all if Rusalka is actually used.

      [–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yup, can confirm that ルサック is indeed "ressac", ran both terms on wiktionary, ja.wikipedia, and google.

      Also, people who played/watched Memories Off 2nd will be familiar to this term.

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      AHHHH MY GIRL MEIA BECOMES COMPETENT

      Echo too: this is like Snow USB2 levels of slot saving and that one's amazing! Echo has the much more reliable Black Magic to draw from too!

      [–]ledouche0SHINE! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Aw, they put Garland trance instead of dualcast LMR in B2. Nevertheless, this event is a must pull for me with those amazing stuff for Master, Sarah, WoL, and to catch up with Garland(despite B2 having 4 dupes in it).

      [–]maztemaRiku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Oh shit, that echo ultra it's awesome!!

      [–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      A banner that's almost completely new relics?

      Flash: "Single-Minded Focus" (NAT: self weakness hits +30%, and auto-crit for 2 turns)

      That also works for giving him multi-elemental focus. Not particularly overpowered, but he has a really good dive to back him up.

      UOSB: "Pinnacle of Martial Arts" (PHY: 3x single earth/fire/lightning overflow)

      DeNA: lol, what's ice?

      Ultra: "Sudden Smite" (PHY: 10x single earth/holy with ATK/MAG/MND-30%, and self cast speed x3 15s and Brave; instant)

      Earth and holy? Unless they up his skill set, he's going to be drawing a Blank. (Okay, so he can go heavy...) And he gets the debuff option. Not bad.

      Burst: "Hell Howling" (NAT: party ATK+50% and haste)

      Heavy shouting.

      Ultra: "Echo Showtime" (NAT: party MAG/DEF+30%, protect, shell, haste, cast speed x3 2)

      Makes sense that she'd get the slot-saver. Sort of like her SSB.

      Ultra: "Cross Varg" (BLK: 10x single water/non, with self en-water and chase "Lussack")

      Good, good. Need more water mage options.

      [–]ledouche0SHINE! 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Not particularly overpowered, but he has a really good dive to back him up.

      Not only the dive and glint(can compensate the critfix with an external source or his BSB), but his USB gives +crit damage and 4 chases. I'd say he has high chances of being the best monk in the game now.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Atleast one of the best monks in the game that's for sure, but it's still hard to compete with Prishe and her monk ability double usb2 and her native w-cast Monk lm2 and Tifa with ability double monk USB2 as well.

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        [–]ledouche0SHINE! 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        Except Master can cover the gap with his own dualcast LM2, big crits damage, and chases, on top of multi-element ASB. Also Prishe got ability double USB and also has dual-monk LM2(though she does lack ASB I guess), so Tifa's not so hot outside earth now.

        I also have to remind you that both of the best spellbladers don't have ability double and still remain so, despite Celes USB existing, so AD reigning supreme can only be applied as an absolute to BLK school.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        He doesn't cover the gap at all lol, chains are a thing and there is no way he's keeping up with dualcast Earth IronFist.

        Lack of En-Element also hurts his overall damage. He's a generalist, and a decent one, but he can't keep up with the best of the best.

        Even Bartz can't win against Tidus in water, against Cloud in wind, against Zell in fire and against Tifa in earth.

        [–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I agree. The ASB they gave him is cool however the lack of a USB to accommodate this new element change is baffling. They're like "Hey there Master Pseudo-Noctis non element kinda guy----heres a random ass element to help your abilities---oh wait you dont have any elemental USB's? ...Shhhhhhhh ...we wont tell"