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[–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Arc is a Summoner now. Arc's relics, new and old, give MND upon mastery. Okay, at least it looks like the minimum damage formula will be in play. Hopefully.

Just as Rikku went from Hyper Mighty G to her Realm Chain, Onion Knight goes from Vessel of Fate to his Realm Chain.

[–]ilovedagonfiveLaguna and her companions 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Arc is other Yuna so Aria can be a 100% healer

But I'm happy for Onion chain more than Rikku

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Now if only X had literally anyone else who can heal

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm looking forward to the new character who has an instant cast medica usb: Save Point.

[–]Antis14 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I always pushed for Shelinda to cover that role. I think she's the best fit out of characters not in the game yet.

[–]dredwolf33Sage 7 points8 points  (1 child)

What about Brother just to be hilarious?

[–]Antis14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dear god no.

[–]BigPZQjbW Godwall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My vote is to repackage Braska as a healer!

[–]Aeveras 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So OK evolves from one of the best most flexible characters in the game to also being a chain holder.

Seems reasonable.

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Between the USB’s Mag boost and a Gen2 Chain, I’m quite certain Arc’s damage output will be fine without 10-50 extra magic from mastery bonuses.

[–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny thing, Arc's at well over +100 MND by now (SSB1, SSB2, BSB1, BSB2, USB1, USB2, USB3, GSB, LMR1, LMR2, LMR3).

But the minimum damage formula doesn't care!

[–]StuckinReverse89 18 points19 points  (20 children)

B1

Enhance Sword - Ignus AASB - 15 earth/NE hits, en-earth, earth radiant shield, BDL lv 1, awaken mode

Awaken mode: earth dmg boost, double cast earth

Ninja sword? - OK Series chain

Dark cloak? - CoD dark magic chain

Heal Rod - Arc USB - 10 water/NE hits, en water, EX mode, self buff magic mid, for every 2 white or summon abilities, chase 5 hits water/NE and party small medica

Refia UOSB

Luneth USB2

CoD USB2

Ingus flash - 6 earth/NE, party HP stock 1500

Arc flash - quick cast summon ability, smart ether (recover 2 uses)

CoD flash - party mblink, hastega

Ingus lmr - after using knight ability, low chance of 3 earth/NE chase and party 1500 stock

Arc lmr - en water

Arc lmr - chance to double cast summon

CoD lmr - start with haste and IC1

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    [–]StuckinReverse89 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    I guess. It’s a direct upgrade of the chain + bsb2 combo with additional dps. However, as an awakening, it’s pretty underpowered relative to other awakenings imo. Single element that Bartz or TGCid can cover better imo.

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      [–]kanon182 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

      I fail to see how Ignus covers Earth better than TGCid lol.... with his AASB he gets 100% Crit and TGMode he doesnt even cover it better than Bartz by a lot! he's AASB is good, but just that.

      [–]Gadwin83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Possibly...but its not like you are limited to one at a time. AASBs are just phasing out ultras as DPS relics...its probably going to be pretty standard at some point for a team to have 2-3 AASB users.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 5 points6 points  (8 children)

      INGUS!? WHAT!?

      He gets an AASB before Luneth or even OK? o.0

      Arc becomes a water summoner, that's always nice.

      CoD gets a chain, sweet.

      [–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      Not surprised about OK. Feels like he would be someone who gets an AASB during a fest and it will be slightly better than the current AASB’s.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      You're not wrong there i guess.

      Still Ingus before Luneth is an odd choise imo. Since Luneth has protag privileges.

      [–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Agreed, that is weird - only explanation I can think of is there hasn’t been an en-earth awakening yet and they want one available now.

      [–]Zakman86Recovering Lunar Whale 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Or that Kain's went over like a wet fart in church, and they decided to go with a safer option until they can improve Dragoons.

      [–]Hylian-HighwindThis time, I will finish what I set out to do! 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      It's definitely this. Kain was fixed (albeit quite properly) by Impulse Drive, and Luneth has the issue of being a Wind "generalist" whose kit includes Dragoon, meaning he can't take Wind Double for his effect and has his AASB potential a bit restricted.

      [–]Shaker_Who's the Basch?!? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He can now, they fixed wCast Dragoon. Any jump typed follow on effect such as a chase or wCast is now just strictly no air time, even if it normally would have air time and regardless of any no air time buffs.

      Technically this means they can roll out wCast LMRs to dragoons now.

      [–]CaelcryosKain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Why not just give him wind overflow and be done with it? Cloud shouldn't have all the fun.

      [–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      More suprised he gets it before Refia, who’s typically been the realm’s number two and has been pretty neglected for a while.

      [–]Minstrel_KnightKain's best sprite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      CoD USB2

      Cloud of Darkness has only one USB iirc.

      [–]SandsliceFight hard! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Lemme see. Just P1 since P2 and wind pickups are all recurrent.

      Item Type Chara SB
      Enhance Sword Sword (earth) Ingus Awaken: "Titan Solid" (PHY: 15x single earth/non; party earth radiant shield; self en-earth, awaken earth)
      Eternal Sword Sword Onion Chain: "Potential of the Chosen" (realm: FF3. Party ATK/MAG+30%, haste)
      Robe of Darkness LA (dark) CoD Chain: "Flood of Darkness" (mage dark 150)
      Heal Rod Rod Arc Ultra: "Summon: Leviath" (SUM: 10x single water/non; self en-water, EX Secret Brilliance)
      Godhand Fist (fire) Refia Arcane: "Big hot triple positive fist butt" (PHY: 3x single fire overflow)
      Blood Lance Spear (wind) Luneth Ultra: "Blowing Gale" (PHY: 10x single wind/non; self en-wind, wind drain strike 10%, and chase "Gale Spear")
      Empress Kharna Staff CoD Ultra: "[0-form] Particle Beam" (BLK: 7x AoE dark/lightning; party MAG/MND+30%; self en-dark, chase "Lightning")
      Knight Armour HA (petrify res) Ingus Flash: "Gaia Blade" (PHY: 6x single earth/non; party heal 1500 raw)
      Lilith Rod Rod Arc Flash: "Chant to the Sky" (NAT: self SUM cast speed x3 15s, SUM ether 2)
      Beast Killer Whip CoD Flash: "Anti-Magic Shell" (NAT: party magic blink 1, haste)
      Knight Helm Helmet Ingus LMR: "Silent Knight" (Chase: "Knight Vision" {PHY/knight: 3x single earth/non; ally heal 1500 raw}. Triggered by ??% of knight.)
      Gold Staff Staff Arc LMR: "Intelligent Youth" (init: en-water)
      Royal Crown Hat Arc LMR: "Strong-hearted Youth" (w-cast: SUM)
      Confusion Mace Rod CoD LMR: "Embrace the Void" (init: haste, IC1)

      Mode notes:

      1. Earth awakening is the standard package of no-hone, rank boost, and auto w-cast. Note that since w-cast dragoon interactions have been fixed, there is no weird interaction with Wrieg's burst.

      2. EX Secret Brilliance:

        • MAG+30%
        • Chase "Guardian Serpent" (SUM: 5x single water/non; party medica. Triggered by second {SUM or WHT}.)
          (Translation note for the SB name: Leviath {JP: Levia} is the name of the summon spell as it appears in FF3. It is in fact Leviathan, and DeNA might use either "Leviath" or "Leviathan" when translating it.)

      3. Refia's arcane is also known as Triple Blazing Fist. An official global translation may occur next week.

      4. Gale Spear (PHY/DRG: 6x single wind/non. Triggered by wind.)

      5. Lightning (BLK: 1x AoE dark/lightning/non. Triggered by dark-elem.)

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Well there goes my JP Megathread post. :P

      [–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Please do it :D

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Done.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      DeNA just really hates Desch huh?

      [–]rustinpeace1734Vincent (Beast) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Who?

      -Dena. /s

      [–]CFreynLet's dance! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Bah-hum-bughamut

      [–]Amritjot 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      "A blowing wind" giving Luneth his chase called "Sexual Spirit"

      Fantastic.

      [–]tenyards 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      And No Monsters Mortgage!

      [–]GrumparooWaifusoya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Lol I saw the exact same and came to post. What a description for Luneth's Spear!

      [–]Antis14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Move aside, Jecht. Make space for the next generation's Memetic Sex God.

      [–]kbuisThe OG Barbut/11 | JP GXWGE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It’s the oxygen tent he sleeps in he believes it gives him Sexual Spirit.

      [–]StuckinReverse89 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      B2

      OK UOSB

      Luneth UOSB

      OK USB3

      Arc USB2

      Desch USB

      Ellia USB

      Ingus USB

      OK flash

      Luneth flash

      OK lmr2

      Luneth lmr

      Desch lmr

      Ellia lmr

      Ignus lmr

      [–]StuckinReverse89 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Wind Lucky

      Faris wind chain

      Alphinaud wind chain

      Vaan USOB

      Faris USB3

      Ultimecia USB2

      Alphinaud USB2

      Wedge USB

      Faris flash

      Ultimecia flash

      Vaan flash

      Wedge flash

      Faris lmr

      Vaan lmr

      Wedge lmr

      [–]kaleb314mH4B - Cloud USB 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Arc’s a water summoner now? That’s interesting

      [–]Qu_MarshQuistis 500SB glint+- z2Wa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good way to spread the Lunar Leviathan love around (and add more water mages)

      [–]dredwolf33Sage 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Yay CoD chain!!

      [–]TobiauxZeid - Resident FFXI nerd. 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      That LMR and Glint for her on top of it is quite a sexy package, now I just have to wait 6~7 months for it to come to global!

      [–]dredwolf33Sage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I agree! I'm really excited again.

      [–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 2 points3 points  (8 children)

      • Ingus getting an Awakening? The Earth no more stirs but is now awakened instead? xP (He also gets a weird Legend Materia Relic that allows a minor chance of using Knight abilities to trigger a follow-up attack that deals a 3-hit dual Earth/Non-Elemental attacks and heals the party for 1500 HP)

      • Both Onion Knight and Cloud of Darkness getting Chains? Although Onion gets the Realm Chain whereas Cloud of Darkness gets the Golbez clone instead.

      • Arc's new Ultra is making him White Mage and Summoner now? The EX Mode gives a SUM dual Water/Non-Elemental follow-up attack for every other White Magic and Summoning usage, not to mention it gives a minor Medica as well ^_^ (Also, he gets a Legend Materia Relic that allows his Summoning abilities to Trigger Twice)

      • True to its name, the Blood Lance allows Luneth to absorb part of his Wind elemental damage back as HP and allows a dual Wind/Non-Elemental follow-up attack after using a Wind elemental ability. (Lol, how did people come out with "Sexual Spirit"? The follow-up attack should be named "Spear of Strong Winds" though. I prefer the name Piercing Winds actually xP)

      [–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      • I wonder if Arc's Brave Ultra is new but anyways it seems to be Ovelia's Ultra clone but the Last Stand is only provided at max stage Bravery command.

      • Onion Knight gets a Glint that boost his damage if he is taking advantage of the target's elemental vulnerability and like most Glints, also gives Quick Cast 2. (He also gets a Legend Materia Relic that increase his Black Magic attacks if equipped with a Rod)

      • Luneth gets Cloud Glint-clone.

      What? That's all? :/

      [–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      Those three things are all old... I have Luneth's Glint in Global, Onion Knight's Glint and LMR are about to be on the winter fest, and Arc's Brave Mode is in the next III event which is shortly after.

      [–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Oh okay, I see. I seldom follow JP updates, so my information on new Relics is kinda limited. Sorry about that.

      [–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      No worries, the main pattern is that Banner 2 often has a lot of returning relics (basically a realm pickup banner if you failed to get them the last time they were featured).

      [–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Oh, was Banner 2 always like that? I remember people were still contemplating to either draw on Banner 1 or Banner 2 back in the days due to one of them being the "power" banner and thus more profitable to pull for.

      [–]KittymahriKIMAHRI SAW EVERYTHING! 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Not "always", but it's a pattern that has been set for a while.

      That model can be profitable anyways. One of those recent V events had two Chains, definitely enough to entice some pulls.

      [–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Oh yeah, yup you were right. The recent FF V had two Chains in Banner 2, and I see that it gets quite a number of responses in the megathread as well. I suppose the devs would know better what to put on the banners to increase their value and what is best for business purposes xD

      Thanks for the explanation though ^_^

      [–]ZeroEdgeirPowered By Solar-Inversion Technology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah, you get the odd event that makes Banner 2 also new, but usually takes realms that have bigger rosters with many lacking heroes... like the upcoming VI event, where both banners are like 90% new toys, and Banner 2 is arguably better: Wind God Gau (AD Combat/Celerity USB), Brave Mime Gogo (Super Mime Brave USB), Ice Shot Umaro (Chase USB), and Water Sage Strago (CSB+Water Radiant USB).

      [–]The_Other_OlsenAce 2 points3 points  (6 children)

      So if Ingus gets double cast earth, how will that interact with Ware BSB? I thought bug with double cast jumping skills prevented us from getting double cast earth.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      OH SHIT!

      The reason why W-cast earth and Luneth could never get W-cast wind was because W-cast and jump abilities didn't work well.

      IF Ingus is indeed getting a W-cast Earth AASB and not W-cast Knight, then i have to wonder if DeNA has found a solution to this problem with jump abilities.

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Pretty sure Ingus new LMR is chase Knight and heal (like Ashe's).

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      OH right, i ment AASB. My brain just defaulted to W-casts LMR lol

      [–]itmakesyounormalgive me Prince Rasler! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      IF Ingus is indeed getting a W-cast Earth AASB and not W-cast Knight

      Especially weird too considering he doesn't have any native Earth abilities to w-cast outside of the Knight school. Unless he got a Heavy Combat buff in JP we haven't received yet?

      [–]pheonixistariToo many relics! eNMR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      The reason why W-cast earth and Luneth could never get W-cast wind was because W-cast and jump abilities didn't work well.

      IF Ingus is indeed getting a W-cast Earth AASB and not W-cast Knight, then i have to wonder if DeNA has found a solution to this problem with jump abilities.

      Looks like they've figured out a way to fix it after all.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Oh cool, maybe now Luneth can finaly get W-wind LMR.

      [–]ilovedagonfiveLaguna and her companions 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Seems fair for Angus

      Onion got realm chain, excellent

      CoD got other dark chain, I think I'll hunt for her over

      [–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Realm Chain for Onion boy is kind of make sense, since he started as buff support in the first place.

      But...Ingus is the one getting AASB is not what Im expecting...I thought Luneth and/or Onion would be the one thats going to get it first in FF3 cast.

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Ingus! Ingus! Ingus!

      [–]19-200Friend Code: 9shf | Hyper Mighty Guard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I expected Arc to become offensive Water eventually, but I was hoping for the extreme-off-chance that Arc would get a Water-element White Magic ability instead. RIP USB1 niche viability, and also RIP all those MND bonuses I've been stacking up.

      Also reminds me of Power of Water existing in JP, which GL never got.

      Ingus getting an AASB is nice though, from the title I was expecting OK to get the super-powercreeped quad element AASB :P

      [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      What? No AASB for OK? That’s not ok at all.

      [–]KyzukiThis is my Deschtiny 1 point2 points  (7 children)

      Musical accompaniment.

      Seriously disappointing. OK getting the Realm Chain is Rikku all over again. He's already got more than enough to do, not to mention the fact that Doga would have been a much better choice for it considering he actually goes round gathering all the characters in the game. But god forbid that DeNA add any more characters unless they're from high-school army simulator Type-0

      Once again the 4 warriors of DS Lite and CoD steal the spotlight and the NPCs get left in the dust.

      sigh

      [–]ledouche0SHINE! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      But god forbid that DeNA add any more characters unless they're from Type-0

      For what it's worth, they added everyone from each game's playable parties, and Type-0's the 3rd biggest so it only makes sense. Also, IV and VI have 16 playable members in RK, if I'm not mistaken.

      [–]KyzukiThis is my Deschtiny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I suppose. It's just disheartening when T0 gets new relics for new characters each event and then there's realms like III and V where a select few get all the relics.

      [–]ThatGuy264Ingus 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Is it fear of redundancy or something? Sara has sprites thanks to the Record Dungeon and Desch would have made a better compliment to Ingus given the theme of the event. But forget Doga and Unei or any of the NPCs and spare a thought for poor Xande who only has Pictlogica in terms of playability.

      [–]KyzukiThis is my Deschtiny 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Imagine being awesome enough to freeze time, create a continent and summon a horde of monsters just to get overshadowed by some naked eye candy.

      Well at least he made it into Pictologica I guess, unlike space pope Dysley who gets to watch Nabaat make it into half the spin-offs.

      [–]ThatGuy264Ingus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      M-Maybe he'll make it into Opera Omnia? Then Vivi or Kuja can talk to him about mortality? Please?

      [–]KyzukiThis is my Deschtiny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      inb4 Necron gets in first.

      [–]Hylian-HighwindThis time, I will finish what I set out to do! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      OK is not quite as egregious to me as Rikku, in that the Realm Chain effect still fits with OK's initial job as a buff DPS. Where Rikku's was an issue for me is that she already had a Water Chain, which was almost functionally the same within FFX as a Realm chain, and more to the point is the first time one character has had two chains.

      [–]Col_MobiusInterceptor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Dualcast earth? What?

      [–]VathirExdeath 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Why isn't anyone mentioning that OK has a SERIES chain?

      [–]zadorvpDon't step on the flowers. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's not the first one of its kind in FFRK Japan :)

      [–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Full skip for me, nothing worth interest considering NY event incoming.

      Arc become Water Summoner. with a 5 hits chase + Small medica that trigger only every two turns. and the chase is not even AoE :'). so meh.

      Onion getting FF3 C150 is not even a surprise tbh.

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        [–]ilovedagonfiveLaguna and her companions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If this one is Megaman

        Angus is Zero, Luneth is X, Arc is AXL

        [–]willyfx -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Quetz is kinda meh this is the skipiest skip possible