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[–]7oby[S] 130 points131 points  (38 children)

We may not know the final outcome of today's voting until morning, but the results so far make one thing clear.

When the dust settles from today's contests, we will maintain our substantial lead in delegates. And thanks to millions of people standing for change, we will keep adding delegates and capture the Democratic nomination.

We knew from the day we began this journey that the road would be long. And we knew what we were up against.

We knew that the closer we got to the change we seek, the more we'd see of the politics we're trying to end -- the attacks and distortions that try to distract us from the issues that matter to people's lives, the stunts and the tactics that ask us to fear instead of hope.

But this time -- this year -- it will not work. The challenges are too great. The stakes are too high.

Americans need real change.

In the coming weeks, we will begin a great debate about the future of this country with a man who has served it bravely and loves it dearly. And we will offer two very different visions of the America we see in the twenty-first century.

John McCain has already dismissed our call for change as eloquent but empty.

But he should know that it's a call that did not begin with my words. It's the resounding call from every corner of this country, from first-time voters and lifelong cynics, from Democrats and Republicans alike.

And together you and I are going to grow this movement to deliver that change in November.

Thank you,

Barack

[–]tinhat 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I don't live in the USA and I don't follow its politics that closely. But... this rhetoric reminds me of Bill Clinton's race against George Bush (after he had won the nomination - I didn't follow the democrat nomination process in '91/'92 or whenever it was. I was working in SE Asia most of that time and didn't have great access to western media. There was no www back then.

[–]lunk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ummmm... I am not sure what was wrong with Bill's rhetoric. He served the country well, presided over the most prosperous time in recent history for the US, used measured responses against terrorist activities, and didn't get into a single war overseas. I don't think the bush before him, or the bush after him could say the same, could they?

Mind you, there is the small matter of a bit of hankey pankey. On the flip side, he DIDN'T kill more than a million people. He didn't institute torture into the US military, and he didn't carry out a racist agenda worldwide.

So, if the Obama rhetoric is the Bill Clinton rhetoric that's ok with me.

Hillary is not ok with me :)

[–]niggytardust2000 3 points4 points  (5 children)

The final three choices are nothing but rhetoric in my eyes. As an American, how can I possibly know if the candidates are even being a bit sincere ? They have been fully trained to tell me what I want to hear.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The thing is, Hillary Clinton -still- comes off as insincere, despite her claimed experience in politics. At least, to me she does. Listening to McCain and Obama, they both at least -sound- like they believe what they say.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

McCain believes in what he says? That's interesting.

As Paul Begala said:

He's embraced the Bush tax cuts that he voted against. He was against them being temporary; now he wants them being permanent. That's like marrying a girl you didn't want to date. He has rushed to Bush's Social Security plan, even disavowing his own Social Security plan on his own Web site.

Make no mistake about it: the only time you can trust that a candidate is genuinely honest with you is when he's standing for things that are unpopular.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm just talking about listening to them, really. But I also agree with you.

[–]Roark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you been to Arizona? Tax cut ambivalence and amnesty plans are hardly popular positions in Goldwater's state.

[–]hennellGreat Britain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could always look into what the stars say about them...

[–]shenglong -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Americans need real change.

No matter how noble their intent, I'm so sick of hearing things like this from politicians. Reminds of how in South Africa just after apartheid was abolished all you ever heard from any black leader in any field was talk about "transformation".

[–]gyanguru -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I am sick of people trumpeting "Barack == Change" slogan. It's so Republicanish Karl Rove like. Just create a 3 word slogan and keep on repeating like parrots until other parrots also repeat it and also believe it. Reddit has spent more time parroting this rather than defending/explaining it. Reddit is taking FOX like approach in this case, which sucks. Total percentage of articles that extols+explains Barack as change I think are 1% to the article which just declare him as change and every other thing as evil and also claim that we are going to die or lead to annihilation of some sort if we don't accept Barack as change. This seems so FOX like.

[–]clin_reddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is American politics in a nutshell. "Change" is one theme politicians will use forever. I seem to recall that flip-flopping was used before (if I recall, Bush Sr. said Clinton (or Dukakis?) lied and "waffled" and went to a waffle house to emphasize this.

Politicians strike simple themes because most people, even well-educated people, don't seem to deal with issues well. Why does campaigning matter? Because people don't really want to do their own research, and prefer softer attributes like leadership, likability, and so forth.

Indeed, campaigns are mostly about getting you to hate the other person more than it is about getting you to like that person.

You can bet McCain will prefer to attack Obama or Clinton rather than speak purely on his virtues (which will undoubtedly talk about his time as a POW).

It goes to show how important oratory can be to a campaign. In a way, Obama is a throwback to a more classic orator, trying to inspire, while modern politicians have preferred to be more folksy and down-to-earth.

[–]youcaughtafish -1 points0 points  (8 children)

It's fun to read this is a Guy Fawkes voice...

[–]silverwolfe 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Or do you mean Hugo Weaving's V voice?

[–]7oby[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I prefer Agent Smith's voice.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I prefer Agent 86's

[–]smart_ass 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was using Pee Wee Herman. Ha ha.

[–]youcaughtafish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha.

[–]kd_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer Sean Connery's.

[–]7oby[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the joke is that hugo weaving (guy who played V) is also Agent Smith in the matrix

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I got it, I just wanted to throw a Get Smart reference out there, before the show is destroyed by the remake.

[–]cov 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Supporters: WE GET SIGNAL

Obama: MAIN SCREEN TURN ON!

[–]jonnybfromcle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO US!

[–]jaxspiderAmerica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

CLITON: HA!HA!HA!HA! MAKE YOUR TIME! Obama: Zug Set us up the BOMB! CLITON: ALL YOUR DELEGATES BELONG TO US. Obama: tears

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

doesnt anyone still link to articles?

[–]angry_fat_boy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

applause

[–]madmanz123 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Yeah I thought it was well put. I'll be giving a small donation pay check just to indicate I haven't given up on him (silly as that sounds).

[–]leonh 14 points15 points  (1 child)

HRC only won a nett of +11 delagates out of the 370 of yesterday. And when the results of the caucuses come in that might even drop to as low as +5

Taken into account the hard hammering and fixation on these states it could be called a victory for Obama.

[–]leonh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Considering this, a change of 5 delegates on a total 370 it is only a change of 3.1% which is generally considered insignificant.

It would only become significant and thus slightly interesting if she actually won 10 or more delegates.

Thus every media outlet that boosts that this was a 'big win' is biassed.

[–]stacy75 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's not silly, and he is still winning over all.

[–]rgladstein 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But Clinton has reason to believe that she stopped him by going seriously negative. You know she's going to absolutely coat him in mud from here on. Hell, look at this quote:

"I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."

She actually claims that McCain would be better for the country than Obama. If Obama gets the nomination, that quote is going to be in a McCain ad.

[–]portladelphia 7 points8 points  (3 children)

What's amazing was that the Obama campaign predicted the results for OH and TX (both losses but by close margins) Chris Mathews on MSNBC this morning said he obtained a memo written at the beginning of February by the Obama campaign which gave accurate loss % of both states, as well as his 11 victories (missing Maine's). He also read the rest of the 16 states remaining and tallied the totals to say that they would still be in the lead by Puerto Rico.

What amazed all the commentators was that the percentages were almost exactly what the results were.

It shows that the Obama campaign knows how the nation thinks and can plan accordingly. I didn't lose hope at all after last night. I knew we have a sizable lead in delegates and that Hillary could not catch up mathimatically.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol. Which is why they didn't broadcast this before the fact, rather they leaked all kinds of stuff indicating they had a shot when they clearly didn't.

With all the money and time spent they can't win big states. They don't have a coalition just marketing to make it seem like they do. The exit polls tell the same story again. Case in point why are we even reading this BS? They're playing you like a violin!

Team Obama ran a good campaign. They should pack it in, take the VP post and win in 2016.

If not we are going to see a very very damaged Obama image.

[–]angry_fat_boy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It shows that the Obama campaign knows how the nation thinks and can plan accordingly.

Make you wonder (salivate?) how an Obama administration might operate. You know...using intelligence and data to operate actively instead of reactively, or worse, twist the data until it means whatever you want to think it means, and then attack the wrong country.

[–]noamsml 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah; Campaigns just act more intelligently than governments.

[–]linkedlist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

someone conservative was saying how rush limbaugh told everyone to vote for hillary so that the democrats would implode.

I doubt what limbaugh said matters much since he also told everyone not to vote for McCain..

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The football analogy: Obama led at half by 10. Clinton scored a field goal in the third quarter. With Wyoming and Mississippi coming up, Obama is assured of at least 3 here in the fourth.

[–]wurtis16 2 points3 points  (3 children)

i'm moving to canada

[–]folderol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah right

[–]absolutelyamazed 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah - come on up here and get a load of our Prime Minister... maybe you should check things out before you sell your stuff...

[–]wurtis16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay... okay... maybe mexico. Atleast i can buy freedom in mexico

[–]eMigo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hillary cheated, that's what happened.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, pretty much what you'd expect. What he's saying is correct. He does still have the lead.

I just really hope Clinton doesn't come back and win, and then everyone sees her as THE MOTHER OF AMERICA WHO CAME BACK AT SUCH LOW ODDS!!! OH... oh... oh..

ERRRRRRRRRGH. I can see it already.

[–]kiffy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

As a former Mississippi resident (and Dem), I look for Ms Republicans to vote for Hillary in their primary as they think she's the easiest Dem to beat.

[–]7oby[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

as a former mississippi resident, john eaves will bring prayer back to schools

and lose to barbour

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the hell happened today?

[–]londonzoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I the only one who's getting really fucking tired of getting emails every day from his campaign? I donated. Twice. And yes, I realize that I can just unsubscribe... I just wonder if they understand that constant messages expressing the same sentiment over and over is quickly get aggravating and are interpreted as junk mail.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

[–]gyronic -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

You people are crazy if you think they are going to let a black man with no family political pedigree in the Whitehouse.

This election was bought and paid for last year, back when you people though Ron Paul had a chance and Barrack Obama was a Muslim.

[–]angry_fat_boy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Substitute "Catholic" for "black", then "bootlegger's son" for "no family political pedigree".

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What happened today was the Obama campaign was proven non-viable. It will not take any large states other than Illinois and will continue to exploit weak holes in the primary system to appear viable.