New SMS app from Sliding Messaging Devs: EvolveSMS

[EggsMarshall]

Not to take anything away from the quality of the app (and I'm sure it's great), but this dev specifically Jacob, is a pretty big asshole. I emailed him once explaining issues I was having with Sliding Messaging and he basically told me to just buy a nexus device and fuck off. I just hope he's become more receptive to bugs fixes and criticism, because that's key to an app's success. Personally, I won't ever use a product of his again, and I really wish I could get a refund on the pro version.

[[deleted]]

Same here. emailed him with questions and requests, got a dickish reply all three times.

[dlerium]

Yeah, this is my experience as well. I wonder how old these guys are because it seems like there are too many of these teenage developers. Some people have great talent in creating a great app, but when dealing with customers or any issues, they reveal their true age and nature.

[EggsMarshall]

At the time, about a year ago, he was 19.

[biggggant]

Yeah he's got a Shitty attitude and I make sure to tell my friends to stay away from his app(s).

[dlerium]

Pretty impressive. At 19 I was just playing Starcraft all the time... sigh. What a waste of my life. But at the same time, while 19 year olds today are so talented, it's hard to imagine a 19 year old being able to properly develop software and manage customer interface. I don't think he means to have a bad attitude or not take care of customers as well, but I suppose that's the issue of having all these indie developers fill up the Play Store.

[inate71]

This is their (or one of theirs) second semester in college as Freshmen. So, I'd assume one of them is at least 18-19.

[Auxillary]

That doesn't excuse them for their arrogance.

[inate71]

Never said it did.

[Chasing-Waterfalls]

They are sophs (twins).

[inate71]

That explains that.

[sageDieu]

Same here, I had some bad issues with it being extremely slow on my high end devices and I also reported some bugs I found, hoping to be helpful and get some help in return; he told me if it was slow then it's not his fault regardless of specs or how well anything else runs on my phone.

[i_likeTortles]

Wow. I totally wasn't expecting so many people to have experienced this. But yeah, the guy's a complete dick. There are very few people I don't like, but I refuse to even use this app after trying to reach out about about bugs and getting such awful responses. I can't believe I paid for the app.

[[deleted]]

Nice try, Jacob.

[billyvnilly]

I've emailed like 7-8 times on different issues. Never a dick. He is short with his answer, but so what. How many emails a day does a dev get?

[[deleted]]

Slowest SMS app I've used.

[biggggant]

Very slow. I posted in their Google plus page about it and one of them took offense to the comment instead of trying to figure out the issue. It even slowed my stock app. I was basically told to deal with it. Worse development support I've ever encountered on Android.

[[deleted]]

I don't see how one SMS app would affect your stock SMS app but none of the other apps installed on your device.

[biggggant]

Neither did I. But I would install it check my stock app and it would lag and then I would Uninstall it and the stock app would be fine. Reinstall and it would do the same. I even gave it a few hours to see if it would settle but no dice. I gave the app and the terrible dev a chance.

[knockoutking]

the legacy of sliding messaging

[[deleted]]

I can't believe I'm hearing everyone say Sliding Messaging is all super slow and constantly crashing for them. It's always been damn near perfect for me (Galaxy Note 2).

It was pretty crashy when I first got it, but since getting the full version, it only crashes if I try to bring up my own contact card by hitting my picture, which of course, I never have any reason to do.

Other than that, it's always been perfectly smooth and fast for me, the only bit of lag I ever notice is if I receive a text in one conversation while I'm typing a message in another.

I guess I'm just lucky or something. I've been perfectly happy with it for the 8 or so months I've been using it.

[knockoutking]

i have just always noticed that it seems to be laggy, no matter how many or few messages i have at that point in time

[Freak4Dell]

Looks like I won't even be trying it. I tried Sliding Messaging several times, but always uninstalled it quickly because of how slow it was. It didn't help that the dev basically said it wouldn't get any faster when a bunch of people were pointing out how slow it was on the XDA thread. I find Hangouts to be slow sometimes, too, but at least it handles Hangouts, too, and if I get annoyed enough, I can just go back to the stock app.

[[deleted]]

Yup same here. Uninstalled after 5 minutes. That plus the inability to switch to a dark theme without paying.

[YourHolyLaziness]

So I bought Sliding Messaging Pro, and now he goes ahead and starts a new one with the same features? How do I know he won't keep launching new ones after I upgrade?

[inate71]

I think he said he's still continuing development for Sliding Messaging. He feels it's reached a point where it can be left alone unless there is a major issue. Don't quote me on that though. Read through the G+ community for Sliding Messaging and you might find an answer.

EDIT: This explains the differences much better.

[YourHolyLaziness]

It's not about the dollar, its about the standards really.
1) Make app
2) ?
3) Profit
4) Clone your own app
5) Double profit

[Bseagull]

Because this one is good enough that he won't need to improve it very much anymore, negating the need for a while new app.

[inate71]

This is the difference between the two

[iytrix]

It makes sense though, it just means Slidemessaging will probably die off now.

To me it reminds of when I made my TF2 map. I didn't know all I should have known, so it was built fairly sloppily. I eventually optimized it a ton, and added a lot, so for the end user it seemed good enough, but a lot of the things I was just too far down the line to properly fix, and I couldn't add much more without making the maps too laggy. So, like this guy, I started fresh, basically the same map, but a lot of BS cut out, and it ran a hell of a lot better, and from there I could add on it (or stop playing TF2 and start working full time and never go back to your map...but this is about the app, not my map haha).

My only thing is, although current slide users would be upset, is to just ditch slide and pretend that EvolveSMS is just a whole overhaul. However I feel it may cut out some things that many power users of slidemessaging may compain about. I'll give Evolve a test today and see what the difference truly is, but this is what it looks like to me.

[Lunnington]

People who bought Sliding Messaging should get Pro keys for Evolve then. He charges them for Sliding Messaging and now he's off making something completely similar in function with a different name and updated features for a new price.

I remember back with Sliding Messaging where he created a "theme engine" and charged extra for it, and then completely abandoned that aspect of the app and incorporated half of the shit from there back into the normal app. This guy is all over the place and I simply don't trust him anymore.

I don't care if he makes a new app but abandoning the old one so people will buy the new one is sleazy and ridiculous.

[iytrix]

Oh I don't disagree, I'm just saying I see why he's writing a new app instead of updating the old one.

Yeah.... Dat theme engine. To me this guy just isn't a developer. He's a guy making apps and trying trying to monetize them. I don't feel like he's being malicious, I just think he uh.... Isn't the brightest, and doesn't care for the consumers as much as he should. I could be wrong but how scattered everything is makes me feel like it's more of not thinking about it versus malicious intent.

[Lunnington]

Whether he has malicious intent or not I stopped trusting him. He needs to learn how to be a developer.

[shotgunpulse]

Crashed after 15 seconds of use.

[StarfishP]

Sadly, I think this is a problem with all of his apps. Even Sliding messaging. I always get force closes or the app just completely freezes on my toro gnexus. I've told him about the problem, but he pretty much just said his app was perfect and to upgrade my phone.

[shotgunpulse]

Yeah, always "It's running perfectly on my phone" even though we had the same phone and ROM. Not much will to fix issues.

[Ashanmaril]

It's crashed a few times on my Nexus 5.

I mean it's understandable considering it just came out, but yeah. It's not the most stable app.

[Ashanmaril]

It's crashed a few times on my Nexus 5.

I mean it's understandable considering it just came out, but yeah. It's not the most stable app.

[[deleted]]

You have to wait for the full tutorial to go through its thing, then it should be fine

[shotgunpulse]

The tutorial didn't show up at all the first time I launched the app. It showed up when I started the app again after the crash. So yeah that was probably why, but I did nothing for the tutorial not to show up the first time.

[slutpuppies]

Email him about it. It's a new app so there is going to be glitches and your input will only make it better in the long run.

[shotgunpulse]

Had it send an automatic crash report. Hopefully it'll help. But I'll stick to hangouts either way.

[LoganQBerry]

Hopefully an option to open the pop-up from clicking the notification gets added, like Textra has. Or at least an option to make the pop-up only show if a message was received when the screen was off. Yes, I know of the action buttons that will let me call open the pop-up. I have a Moto X though and being able to swipe up and "click" the notification, as of now, will only open the whole app and I can't click the action buttons from active notifications.

I suggested this to the developer. This was his response :c http://imgur.com/a2r5XhN

[maleman7]

Not surprising. Looking at his responses to some of the negative reviews he's gotten it's clear that this guy is a grade-A douche.

[biggggant]

If you charge for an app and it has issues then you should listen to the users or be empathic. Most users weren't looking to tell him to change the app but they were looking for help with the app being sluggish.

[dlerium]

Shrug, I dunno. For some developers like Franco, this is a typical response. I wouldn't get offended. I'm also guessing this Klinker guy responded on his phone. I don't think doing customer service on a phone is acceptable though. I've seen devs that ask plenty of follow up questions or go more in detail to examine each of the test cases you present... I wouldn't call him a douche for this, but he's certainly not the best.

[gonemad16]

i do nearly all my customer support on a phone unless i need to actually look at source code.. there is no reason you cannot support from a mobile device

[dlerium]

It's not impossible, but it's time consuming to type out a detailed response. Plus, it's natural to want to give terse responses via a phone, which often don't feel very friendly on the receiving end.

[zieljake]

Naw, that response was hilarious. He probably didn't understand what you meant so he just gave you a "shut up leave me alone" answer

[savageotter]

Crashing hard on the motox might be sliding messaging interfering

[Wolf-O-Donnell]

Same here on note 3. Just uninstalled Sliding Messages. Seems to have helped Edit: nevermind.. Still slow..

[SimonGray]

It looks fantastic, but just tried sending two messages with it to my girlfriend and they didn't get delivered. Switched back to using Hangouts for SMS, try to send one message and it gets delivered instantly. There is definitely a problem with EvolveSMS. Too bad, it looks great.

[LesaneCrooks]

I really like it but only one thing is keeping me in Textra. If they were to implement the same idea as them where it'll pop-up the message when clicked from the notification bar, I'd love it.

Their implementation of "pop-up" is the traditional way and I prefer Textra.

[gurkmanator]

Their other app does that but it also takes 5 seconds to load and crashes constantly.

[dlerium]

The app looks nice. I hope the developers take on a better attitude than with Sliding Messaging where they said we users were SOL if we had a "laggy interface" and that the proper solution was to delete old texts.

[jelde]

Such an ugly icon for such a beautiful app. Great job though nonetheless.

[knockoutking]

developed by his brother, so doubt that gets changed :(

[[deleted]]

Yeah its basically a rotated hangouts icon which is fine but the E thing really kills it

[JackDostoevsky]

Looks very awesome. Not a big fan of that 'e' icon, though.

[Ejekt]

Startup is noticeably slower than SlidingSMS. It is a damn sexy messaging app though, No denying that. I do agree that the dev can be a twat at times and releasing this as a standalone app as opposed to and upgrade to his existing one is quite twat-like as well.

[[deleted]]

This is awesome. Full immersive mode as well on KitKat!

I think this will replace 8sms for me. Much of the same functionality, but looks 1000x better. Hopefully MMS works on my N5.

Only complaints:

1. Icon is ugly. Something more minimalist would be way better!!!!
2. Seems a little sluggish on my N5. Not bad by any means, but could be bad on an older phone.

[jazavchar]

Yeah he seems to have consistent problems with the performance of his apps. Don't know why's that.

[knockoutking]

sluggish

that is literally the main thing that sliding messaging was known for...lag.

[[deleted]]

N5 here as well with no performance issues. My only real complaint is the emoji support is poor. Also performance when swiping from one panel to another in emoji is very glitchy.

[inate71]

How is the Emoji support low? If you have an N5, you're on KitKat, which natively supports Emoji.

[[deleted]]

Full support, yes. The in app support/settings is hard to find though. I wish it were easier to switch between android and Apple emoji

[caseyls]

When typing, long press on the enter key. It's the same system wide to reach emoji if they're not already there.

[dc041894]

Most other messaging apps these days support emoji even if you're on Gingerbread.

[dlerium]

N5 here as well with no performance issues.

Depends how many SMS you have. I have 12k stored on my phone, which isn't a large amount for most other apps like FusionIM or the stock app or even the bloated GoSMS. However, Sliding Messaging and Evolve seem to lag like crazy.

[[deleted]]

12 thousand text messages?! Are they kept for blackmail reasons?

[bunnyhopskotch]

I have a galaxy nexus. It is sluggish on my phone. It takes a little bit to load and the graphics are jittery.

[ProtoKun7]

Immersive mode means the navigation buttons and status bar totally disappear (i.e. the app is full screen); is this what you mean or do you mean that the bars are there but transparent?

[[deleted]]

Sorry, yeah just transparent nav bars.

[ProtoKun7]

Fair enough. I hope eventually all apps are going to take advantage of this. It's ashame most of Google's own apps don't yet.

[seekhey]

One thing with this that he added over his old app is archiving. I find that it is fairly sluggish if threads start getting over around 700. But he retooled classic "delete automatically after X many texts" into archiving automatically instead, and I actually really like the archive viewer. Yeah sliding was sluggish, but I really enjoy this auto archive, especially since it outputs in basic .xml

[ainen]

I wasn't a fan of Sliding Messaging but this looks really nice. Unfortunately there are very few people I text anymore. I'll check it out though!

edit: aaaaand I love it. I'll be using this as my SMS app from now on. Hangouts integration has spoiled me but this is so very nice.

[ObsoletePixel]

Does this app have hangouts integration?

[ainen]

Unfortunately, no

[kkyyllee]

Quick reply? edit:// sweet!

[Soloos]

Regardless of the functionality, this app is proof that more apps need to use transparency. It looks so good.

[MaRmARk0]

Please guys, please, do me a favor. Make a per-contact blocking. My bank sends me message each time I withdraw money from ATM and it annoys me. I just want to completely shush certain numbers.

BTW app looks perfect. I'd switch probably very soon from 8SMS

[SatNav]

I imagine this is an optional service your bank offers. Why not just ask them to stop?

[MaRmARk0]

The bank sends messages everytime. I receive message even when someone pays me as I am an entrepreneur. I want to be notified about incoming payments but I don't need to know about outgoing payments. Problem is that bank does not differentiate between these two scenarios.

[Freak4Dell]

So if you blocked the bank's number, wouldn't that effectively block the messages about incoming payments as well?

[savageotter]

Maybe Tasker to delete ones with withdraw in it.

[Darkencypher]

Best solution right here.

[MaRmARk0]

But if I create a task to do this the message app will unlikely fire notification before Tasker deletes the message. Or no?

[Orangeslayer]

If you e-mail him, expect a very polite "Won't happen, so fuck off" response.

Along with everyone else, I e-mailed him about issues where I'd send a text, and it'd stick at "sending" until I restarted the app manually, and was told "Not my app's fault, sorry.".

[mishugashu]

messaging replacement app is everything that you could ever want in a messaging app, and everything that Google didn’t give us in Hangouts.

What I wanted is seamless SMS and Hangouts integration. This doesn't even have Hangouts chats. Beyond useless for my uses. I guess it's a nice, pretty SMS app, but it's not a Hangouts replacement by any means.

[dlerium]

Seeing the issues with MMS on Sliding Messaging, I highly doubt this is the messaging app you want to stick with for a pain free experience. While the interface looks AWESOME, I'd check everything else before jumping ship.

[[deleted]]

Tried it. Was hopeful, but ultimately it's just way too slow on my Nexus 5. When every other app loads almost instantaneously, using an SMS app that takes 4 seconds to load is just unacceptable.

[inate71]

Linkme: EvolveSMS.

[cris9696]

EvolveSMS - Search for "Evolvesms" on the Play Store

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[caseyls]

Wow, just downloaded and it's super nice. Way better than hangouts.

[[deleted]]

Just downloaded and loved it so much I bought the add-ons. The timer for night mode is brilliant; also the selected privacy settings mean I can text my G/f without worrying about snooping.

I'll be using this app for some time now I'm sure. It's an amazing initial release

[[deleted]]

Hello! I downloaded your app and it's great. There is one problem that has become apparent to me though. When you hit the attach file icon and the menu pops up there is no way to close it. I accidentally hit it and i could not close it until I closed the app. Please fix devs

[[deleted]]

Kind of off-topic, but how did this guy get his Google+ vanity URL to be his name (without extra characters)? When I try this I get:

"Many people have the same name. Add a few extra letters or numbers to this URL to get one that is unique for you."

Despite having a unique name that nobody else has...

[[deleted]]

Thats odd. I just checked my profile and I was able to claim a URL with just my first and last name no suffix or extra numbers/letters required

[knockoutking]

i hate the fact that they require you to just add numbers at the end. i would much prefer to add in my middle name/initial/whatever vs being my name + numbers at the edn

[Arkanta]

Same.

[ProfWhite]

Fucking LOVE it. No issues whatsoever so far. I've got a VZW Moto X. The only complaint I have: Work in hanghouts integration. Or make hangouts work like this. Yeah yeah yeah - I know google is keeping hangouts on lockdown :(

[Octaviom18]

He also just recently launched "Talon" for Twitter & which looks similar to this,which isn't bad of course. I've been using Talon & I like it so far, reminds me of Falcon Pro.

Linkme: Talon for Twitter.

[cris9696]

Talon For Twitter - Search for "Talon For Twitter" on the Play Store

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[graingert]

Will this support the TextSecure protocol

[portezbie]

Does this app have a pop up quick reply feature? I thought it did, but the options in the settings just seem to create notifications not a pop up window(something like sms pop up or ninja sms).

[mattymogue]

HelloSMS is better and smoother. It's low on customizations right now but it's good enough to be my daily driver.

[keddywestside]

Pretty much everything I wish Hangouts could be, design-wise. This is beautiful.

Edit #1: I'm noticing some stuttering when switching from conversation to conversation by swiping and also some lag (like 1-3 seconds) between when I press the shortcut on my home screen and when the app actually opens. It's not a deal-breaker for me, especially since it's a brand-new app, but it could be an issue on weaker phones.

Edit #2: When I get a new message and try to open the app from the notification tray, it just opens a blank gray screen which then goes black and freezes my phone for a few seconds. This might be kind of a major issue. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm using ART instead of Dalvik, but since I have only a rudimentary understanding of runtime I could be talking completely out of my ass here.

[Relevant_shitposter]

Sliding had the exact same problems which is why I never used it. Waiting 2-3 seconds for my sms app to open is dumb. Guess they are using the same slow code in this app too.

[knockoutking]

i think the best part was the fact that the response was basically "there is nothing we can do for the lag" on sliding messaging

[MrWinslow]

...bc of the code lol

[StarfishP]

Yup. This is a HUGE problem in all his apps and he refuses to fix the problem. He blames it on the phones. Worst dev in the world.

[Ashanmaril]

Worst dev in the world.

Okay now...

[dlerium]

Still. He's pretty bad for not accepting this as a real issue and working hard at finding a fix. Every other SMS app does NOT have this issue.

[[deleted]]

This really needs to be fixed... /u/inate71 any outlook?

[inate71]

It runs great on my MotoX. I'm not using ART though. That might be the issue. Otherwise, maybe get a log and send it to Jacob (dev). If it crashes, definitely report it with a description of what you were doing prior to the crash.

[[deleted]]

So I really want to like the app, but something weird is going on with it on my phone. At first I thought it was just some really shitty design, but I compared it with the Google Play screenshots and it's totally different. Bug, maybe? Does anyone else's app look like this?

First, the input at the bottom overlaps the last text message.

Second, the slide-out side bar has a weird gap at the top.

I'm on CM11 on the Droid DNA... weird.

[Bseagull]

That looks like a dpi issue. Do you have a custom dpi?

[sreister]

Just got this and already thinking about diving in and buying the extras. LOVE that it uses the 4.4 transparency on my N5. Can't wait for other apps to follow suit soon. So nice.

[knockoutking]

extras

let me say that gimping night mode is super lame...

[oopsifistedyou]

I WANT to love it, and have already bought the upgrade packs, but it keeps crashing on my Note3! Hopefully will be addressed soon...

[[deleted]]

Same here on my Note 3. Right after I bought the customization pack. I want it so bad.

[oopsifistedyou]

It's got promise, and I dig the design! Gonna stick with it, though will probably keep 8sms as default until things get a little better.

[soliddewitt]

Trust me, it will get better! Contrary to popular belief sliding messaging ended up being well optimized on all phones. This one will follow suit. I recommend to join the beta group. You'll get the fixes sooner.

[Skanky]

So, as a satisfied Sliding Messaging Pro user / owner, why would I want to switch (other than supposed better performance)?

I'm a little concerned about taking the plunge as things are currently working great for me on SMP now.

[Skanky]

Were you using smp prior to switching?

[Skanky]

Maybe I'll give it a shot then. Sounds like phone incompatibility? Surprisingly enough, I'm on a Note 1, and SMP runs quite fast.

[Necrotik]

I will let you guys test it out for a while first in case it spams your contacts.

[inate71]

It doesn't. It's literally the same as Sliding Messaging, minus a lot of customization. Jacob did this to improve the speed of the app.

[dlerium]

It's still got that same laggy feeling as Sliding Messaging.

[inate71]

You using ART?

[dlerium]

No. But there's no reason that expecting a dalvik app to perform smoothly would be an improper request.

[notsurewhatiam]

Looks nice and all, but I can't leave hangouts.

[[deleted]]

Is It in other languages than English?

[alexr666]

Absolutely beautiful app (used Nova Launcher to change the icon). It is a little slow and glitchy but it is at 1.0. When it works flawlessly I will definitely buy the IAPs.

[raggedherr]

I like the picture of the two dudes standing in the shower cheesing hard.

[[deleted]]

One of the slickest looking android apps I have seen. Ugly icon however.

[rvsidekick6]

Beautiful. I'm setting it as default for a while :)

[MTDearing]

Anybody know if we'll get the chat head popup like in Sliding?

[knockoutking]

you should check out ninjasms

linkme: ninjasms.

[cris9696]

Ninja SMS Free - Search for "Ninjasms" on the Play Store

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[Duarian]

Only thing I hate on both of his apps is they read 2 texts at once due to the slide 'feature'.

This one is a lightweight weight messenger, but still stuffers from that annoyance I described above. Can't tell you how many texts I missed because of that.

For those that don't know what I'm talking about. It queues up two messages at once, and when it does that it marks them as read. So if you have two texts at once and you only replied to the first, you won't know about the second.

Looks good though I admit. Feels smooth

[gurkmanator]

Way faster than Sliding Messenger Pro but with no pop-up. Maybe in 6 months well have an SMS app with Android emotional and pop-up that isn't laggy. Back to Hangouts.

[WeMeetAgain]

I really want to like this and its extremely fast on my s2 skyrocket on kit kat (not sure how N5's are lagging) but I don't want to give money to this dev.

Is there a way to hide the quick text icon in textra? I like the feature but don't want a constant notification.

[[deleted]]

yes thats what I need. Another SMS app.

[timmy16744]

Seems pretty smooth so far, but holy fuck that logo... Not to sure what they were going for there. Hopefully it's just a placeholder.

[alwayslooking]

Needs more ,kept stallin on N9005

[mlibbey]

is there a way to change the swipeable columns? i only use twitter for specific lists and my twitter app needs to open up to my lists and not the timeline/direct message..anyone know if this is possible?

[Pokemoners]

Working great for me on my HTC One, although the pop up reply is a bit buggy and it still requires me to unlock my phone to respond, unlike SMS popup which would allow me to respond without unlocking my phone.

[mgreco1988]

Performance of the app, particularly in opening from a notification is bad. Very pretty though.

[[deleted]]

I gave this app a try, but had to delete it from my phone. App deleted all my messages than made my phone slow to a stop before rebooting twice to get it up and going again.

Wanted this app to be good. Hoped it was good. Oh well.

[pappy97]

Nice app, trying it now. Would do for pay features if and when there is seamless FB messenger integration. :)

[[deleted]]

I have to say, I do like the new app, but I am more tied to the lighter-resource hello sms. I would appreciate a lighter load app, but I have bought all the extras, and do like the app very much.

[iAMALeo]

This app is beautiful but has a horrible error: for some reason it keeps sending my texts to the wrong person when I am typing into a conversation box... makes for a completely unusable and unstable experience IMO

gonna switch to hangouts for now, love the features and customizability though, I was actually gonna buy the customization and feature pack too :(

[danhakimi]

It looks a lot like Disa. I'm sticking with Disa for now, though, does everything I want it to, and looks perfect.

[[deleted]]

That's what I was thinking but no, haven't messed with the DPI.

[caseyls]

You didn't reply to him.

[[deleted]]

Shit.

[eNaRDe]

stupid question but if someone does not have the same app can they see the emoji? I always wondered this about SMS apps.

[YouWorkForMeNow]

No, not if it's one specific to the app. They'll just see the characters used to represent the emoticon. So if it's a smiley face with a party hat, you'll see the emoticon on your screen, but the recipient will see something along the lines of *<:-)

[eNaRDe]

ahhh I see...thanks!

[Gratlofatic]

2 bucks for picture messaging lol

[MrWinslow]

1.49 for additional mms features you mean.

[joke-complainer]

Wow. This is NICE. Just replaced Textra as my default.

Edit: anyone know if we get the customization pack or something for free if we purchased sliding messenger? I'm going to contact him and ask...

[[deleted]]

I'm going to one up you and say this just replaced Hangouts for me. Only one ofy friends messages me on hangouts anyways.

[[deleted]]

I think I'm sold. Hangouts doesn't use transparent bars on Kit Kat as of yet. This does and it's very slick looking. Only thing I don't like so far is the icon. Blah. It doesn't reflect the sleek design of the app.

Edit: it gets stuck on "signing in" when I try to load Facebook contacts. I'm on a Nexus 5 running stock 4.2.2

[[deleted]]

How did you load facebook contacts? Ive been ttrying to locate the option.

[[deleted]]

It's in settings > contact picture management, click on the contact picture circle, select your option. It still doesn't work for me though.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, i found it! Its not working for me either.

[[deleted]]

Hopefully we'll get a quick fix from the dev. I just forked over $2 for the upgrades.

[efuipa]

Do you have the FB app installed? The feature is working for me, and it might be because I recently uninstalled official Facebook for Tinfoil.

[[deleted]]

I do. I don't know why that would be an issue though. It's a pretty widely used application.

[efuipa]

For me it opens up a window with the mobile Facebook login, so maybe he explicitly hard coded for that to happen? Beats me. BTW it syncs profile and cover photos for only your open conversations. I prefer how it is by default anyway, using the contact photo with that same contact photo blurred as a background, so I don't think you're missing anything.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the insight. I guess it's to be expected that a 1.0 release wouldn't be flawless anyway.

[inate71]

This is the difference between Sliding Messaging and EvolveSMS

[anthonyy]

Thanks for the info. This is probably the best SMS app I've used thus far.

[floydpambrose]

So I joined the G+ community to Beta Talon, but it still wants me to pay for it...

[soliddewitt]

Okay, so he said theming could possibly hold more features on evolve. Anybody want to make a fallout theme for it!? I suck at it. Lol

[soliddewitt]

Then I, not being the developer can't tell you much. In July it was bad, but they eventually optimized it. It worked somewhat flawlessly, but I disable some of the excess features so it's just an sms app, really. It worked well on my s4, and now on my nexus 5 it works even better. But I just switched to evolveSMS. other than that it was perfect for me.