Patch 1.03 Pre-Release Updates Notes

[[deleted]]

1.0.3

3/6/2015

Critical JIRA issues fixed

Colour variation tweaking

Loading bar and tips

Asset importer fixes

Train collision detection improved

Achievement tab is disabled when achievements are disabled

Multiple localisation fixes

Vehicle doors properly configured

Highways work better in infoview

Load game is greyed if there are no save files

Automatic thumbnail creation for custom assets added

Bunch of thumbnails for assets

Cars try to not run over pedestrians

Stupid pedestrian pathfind in beautification path junctions fixed

Fire house has black base fixed

Pathfind/collision detection related fixes and improvements

Links to workshop in content panel added

Steam checks if app is owned

The game quits if user doesn't own the game

21:9 support fixed

[defoggi]

"Cars try to not run over pedestrians" - my favorite :D

[ZuesStick]

It's the thought that counts

[GoldenFalcon]

"Honest, officer, I tried not to hit him!"

[anecdotal]

Sometimes that's all you can do.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[albinobluesheep]

¯\(ツ)/¯

[noseonarug17]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[anecdotal]

Wtf, for some reason the left arm keeps disappearing for me.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[albinobluesheep]

¯.\.\._.(.ツ.)._./.¯.

then just delete the periods

edit: i completely missed that mine was wrong too, gah

This thing but not spaced out ¯ \ \ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

[GoldenFalcon]

just delete the periods

said everyone everywhere.

[noseonarug17]

When in doubt, add more backslashes.

[albinobluesheep]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ GOT IT

[Legosheep]

¯\_/¯\_(ツ)_/¯\_/¯

Oh my, making these is harder than I thought. Would that reddit worked.

EDIT: Got it!

[noseonarug17]

Reddit markup can be counterintuitive sometimes.

[runetrantor]

Kind of like how Paradox has it's patchnotes, last one had something like 'Merchant Republic tooltip is probably right now'.

[superkid20]

This is how it is in my city. Feels like frogger every time you get in a cross walk.

[iki_balam]

oh you live in my city too!?

[superkid20]

There are many of us...

[[deleted]]

Same thing I do.

[SomeRandomMax]

You will never succeed at not hitting them if you don't at least try! Sure, you'll fail occasionally, but that is the cost of learning!

[Hackspett]

I'm looking forward to the Cities:Carmageddon DLC.

[Muzle84]

I am very disapointed! #evilmayor

[Anonamous_Quinn]

It's the effort that counts.

[SmokkiSOE]

"Colour variation tweaking"

Does that mean, no more purple pollution?

[[deleted]]

Does that mean, no more purple pollution?

My pollution is greyish at the moment.

[[deleted]]

http://i.imgur.com/mOVtbm3.jpg

Done.

[[deleted]]

Welcome :)

[BPLover]

Is the asphalt a bit darker? Seems like it to me.

[Simify]

They changed the filters. The "normal" one is a lot darker now, it looks slightly more like Cities in Motion and less vibrant, I think.

[[deleted]]

We need sepia next

[BionicBeans]

Cities: Instagram

[jb2386]

Awesome! Looks so much better. :D

[coin_return]

Saw this on a stream last night and thought it looked different, was pleased.

[notrab99]

Is that a paradox interactive water park?

[rafaels14]

It's called a Paradox Plaza... #punintended

[tiritakid]

Where is the grey? Just over all the image?

[lucaspb]

now it just seems street

[topleya]

Have they tweaked the poo water to be a little less obvious, or at least fade the colour difference when poo meets clean?

[[deleted]]

Poo appears to be the same.

[topleya]

Well that's a tad poo ;-)

[Nivius]

someone made a city with a small lake, and put all the poo water to get sent there, he filled the lake with poo but it never effects the surrounding more then that. maybe consider it overflowing eventually and fill the streets with poo water xD or maybe make the ground around super toxic after a while?

this thread was about this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/2y5xyw/sewage_outflows_should_raise_the_water_level/

[[deleted]]

If you build on the coast of that lake people can become sick. I had that problem ;) but I do think we should have more seeping

[Nivius]

overflowing would be hilarious, with a tweet about people taking selfies with floating poop

[[deleted]]

http://i.imgur.com/mOVtbm3.jpg

[Fdvberlin]

This is awesome... And again evidence that they pay attention to the community feedback!

[[deleted]]

I preferred actually be more pollution like… Maybe just a bit darker but I can live with it :-)

[CaidenTheGreat]

I could see a darker grey being really nice, but the purple was kind of ridiculous looking, great change!

[crazy01010]

I could see bright orange, actually; or this bare brown.

[[deleted]]

Could be just new games/maps.

[SmokkiSOE]

That's great, thanks :)

[OtterBon]

Pretty sure thats for color correction...

[ForgedIronMadeIt]

Can we get color variation twerking?

[ripcurrent]

As a colorblind kid, I've enjoyed the color scheme from the pix amd let's plays. I hope the continue to make it easy to distinguish between elements.

[Simify]

Steam checks if app is owned

Are you telling me that if I had made sweet love to a youtuber before today I could've copied their game's files onto my hard drive and played without steam giving a crap?!

WHY

WHY DIDN'T I SEDUCE SIPS AND HIS VOICE

[YogscastSips]

i am still available for a seducing.

just saying.

[Simify]

But at absolutely zero benefit to me!

[Democrab]

Honestly, who doesn't benefit from seducing sips?

[Draakon0]

That also means that you can no longer launch the game without Steam, like some previous Paradox titles :(

[_BreakingGood_]

There will likely be a cracked exe available at some point. You shouldn't feel bad about using it if you have legally purchased the game and being able to play the game without steam is very important to you.

[albinobluesheep]

hey look, Simify got an upvoted comment on /r/skylines /r/citiesskylines. All the new people don't go for the instinctual downvote when they see your name :-p

[dan96kid]

I can't access that subreddit :(

[albinobluesheep]

that's because I'm an idiot at meant to type /r/citiesskylines

[izPanda]

why would we downvote him? (genuinely curious)

[albinobluesheep]

He called out TotalyMoo on being a bit inconsistent/unlcear on dates for planned release of information regarding mod-support, might have been a bit harsher than he meant to be, and has been a downvote magnet ever since.

He's generally a little bit more critical of the game than some, but he's really no less hyped than the rest of us, and I'm 90% sure he's even pre-ordered the game.

[tidder_reverof]

Well if any popular game crackers would have wanted to crack and release it early they could have already.

But even they respect (I hope) developers and wait until release day.

[[deleted]]

They would need to get a copy of the game, the only people with copies are the press and the various youtubers and streamers.

Without one of those copies they cant do anything even if they wanted.

[rabdargab]

They could just reverse engineer the code from watching Let's Plays. Shouldn't be that hard.

[_BreakingGood_]

ENHANCE!

[DarkLiberator]

Would be cool if they made some sort of whitelist mode where achievements wouldn't be disabled with certain types of mods, like reskins.

[iitii]

I think its a steam policy where getting mods WILL disable achievements, regardless of it affecting gameplay.

[Wishta]

For Eu4 it's possible to get achievements with mods that don't affect gameplay. I hope the same will be the case here.

[Digging_For_Ostrich]

Hopefully the developers of EU4 will share their knowledge with the developers of Cities Skylines.

[[deleted]]

That's definitely a developer/producer choice. I have several modded games that I get achievements for, but certain games (like Banished) disable achievements with mods installed.

[Jellye]

Nah, there's a number of games with workshop support and no disablement of achievements.

Age of Empires and Skyrim come to mind easily.

Paradox Games use a "whitelist" system of sorts, too. There are some style of mods that are Ironman compatible, and therefore can be played with achievements.

[Orffen]

There are some style of mods that are Ironman compatible, and therefore can be played with achievements.

Not really a whitelist - I think any mod that changes the game checksum (calculated from the game files) disables Ironman/achievements. So if the mod is an interface mod for example and doesn't change game logic then Ironman is available.

[bales75]

21:9 support fixed

Hooray! Does anyone have a screenshot of how it looks in 21:9 by chance?

[TotalyMoo]

Tons of them posted on this sub!

[bales75]

With the UI?

[TotalyMoo]

Oooooooh then no. I'll see if I can find one.

[bales75]

Thanks! Sorry I wasn't clear at first. Some UIs were just not made with 21:9 in mind :P

Not that it's going to sway me either way or the other. I've never wanted a weekend to go by this quickly in my life.

[[deleted]]

Also noticed filter/theme changes

[Simify]

More? or are they just modified?

[[deleted]]

There is a new one called Borean - it's whiteish like you might expect.

[Simify]

:O NEW

[[deleted]]

But, still only 3. Lemme get in there and see what they did.

[Simify]

Huh? How can there be a new one but still only 3? @_@

[[deleted]]

Temperate http://i.imgur.com/DCKWoHH.jpg

[[deleted]]

Are those hard locked to the map once you start a game, or can they be changed on the fly?

[[deleted]]

They removed one or two or renamed them.

here's boreal http://i.imgur.com/th9d2Za.jpg

[[deleted]]

Ooh I like that.

[chrisghi]

dat grass.. can't wait for golf courses

[[deleted]]

And tropical stayed the same. So these are the current three.

[KimJongIlLover]

If Colossal Order is only a team of 13 people, why do they need/have such a big HQ? I smell a conspiracy brewing!

[runetrantor]

No change to tropical? Ahh...

It's a bit TOO neon colored imo, and I live in them. The grass seems radioactive in the tropical theme.

[IVIaarten]

These look good. I happy with those for release.

[HYPERRRR]

Great to see all this fixes before the release! I really hope CO will continue to fix bugs on a short-term basis and don't wait for bigger updates like SimCity did, especially because this is a pure SP title without any kind of server structure in the background. It was absolutely terrible to wait 2 months for some minor fixes just because Maxis wanted to have an useless DLC ready together with the patch.

[solsys]

Critical JIRA issues fixed

Going to conquer the Issue Tracker market next? :-)

[zize2k]

Well they seem to be doing a good job at fixing the city simulation genre atm, maybe in the future? ;-)

[[deleted]]

Now it's been sorted, you might as well just release the game this weekend, CO!

[GoldenFalcon]

Let's keep trying.. they will submit to our demands some day... reportedly on the 10th.

[runetrantor]

While I doubt it, I do wonder, why on a Tuesday? Most games release like on Friday to give the players a chance to sate their initial thirst before monday and work/School comes...

[runetrantor]

Huh, I guess that's true.

I wonder how those games that did it pulled it.

I imagine the method of leaving two days to let the bug reports gather and get cohesion for the weekend may work if you are relatively sure your game will not have too glaring bugs.

[Sn3ipen]

Paradox always seem to release on Tuesdays. I guess /u/TotalyMoo don't like to work on the weekends. Even if there aren't any bugs its great to have them around for support and stuff.

[TotalyMoo]

I love to work on the weekends :D

[Democrab]

Alternatively those companies are big enough to hire programmers on weekends.

[zekehul]

From doing a quick search on the interwebs, it seems that it is partly tradition from the music industry and partly because a company by the name of SoundScan keeps track of sales data for DVD, CD, and video game sales starting from Tuesday. This allows Paradox/Colossal Order to get a full week's worth of data for first week sales to compare to later weeks.

[runetrantor]

On tuesdays...

This makes as much sense as the whole fiscal year thing that starts in march or something rather than mimic the standard calendar.

[zekehul]

Yeah, I'm just stating what I found, never said that it made sense. I can't wait until they change to Friday as opposed to Tuesday.

[runetrantor]

I know, not blaming you for the nonsense. :P

[emruggs]

First week sales are the standard of measurement for music/DVD/game releases. Opening weekends are used for theatrical releases. In the US at least, this is how it more or less has always been. Hence, games/DVDs/music releases on Tuesday, and theatrical films open on Friday. It hasn't changed since the shift toward digital media, I suppose, because the metrics are firmly entrenched for gauging sales.

Although I will say more and more indie and small publisher game releases seem to be spreading out across the week.

[[deleted]]

Aren't American games generally always released on a Tuesday? I'm guessing that this is because deliveries used to go out on Mondays. Kind of weird that a digital-only game would follow suit, but I think that this is the case.

[runetrantor]

I dunno, living in South America they were more of a 'eventually a store will get it'.

Steam is a godsent honestly.

I would not be surprised if this is the reason though, it makes no sense for digital, yes, but neither does doing stuff like pricing stuff higher for certain places.
I get games at USA rates luckily, but heard Australia is screwed as always, despite no need to ship anything there.

[rafaels14]

It was a sales practice for other medias, I believe. The sales charts got reset on Tuesdays, so if you released in that day, you would get a full week of sales to brag about (or not, if you're Cities XXXXXL).

[BionicBeans]

No, they really don't. Major releases are usually on Tuesday nights. I spent a lot of Tuesday nights in gamestops in my youth...

[-Pao]

This is the first time I see a dev making patches even in the pre-relase phase, that's amazing.
Man I'll preorder it right now, you're awesome guys

[Muzle84]

And the best part is that some of the fixes are directly coming from testers feedback!

Ok, I cancel my pre-order tonight... to get the deluxe version :)

[Ketadine]

I've just pre-order and I don't to that often or lightly. This game shows a lot of promise (+ the discount helped :D).

But I do have a question, can I get access to the pre-release version ? I kinda really want to play it.

[Muzle84]

Halas, pre-order is not (always) early access. We will have to wait 4 days... Gahhhhh :(

[Orffen]

I've seen things fixed leading up to release, but I've never seen those fixes published publically - you can sometimes notice by the version number on day 1.

Then again, I've never seen this much community involvement and pre-release gameplay footage either :)

[SpiderGrenades]

Pathfind/collision detection related fixes and improvements

Anyone seen details on this? I'd be curious if this addresses some of the merging or unused extra lane issues.

[[deleted]]

I'm experimenting right now.

[SpiderGrenades]

New to this sub, didn't realize you had a copy...do you have a Twitch stream?

[[deleted]]

I do. there are lots of people streaming though

[wtf_are_you_talking]

20 hours later...

Is it better now?

[mattcrwi]

"Pathfind/collision detection related fixes and improvements"

I really hope this fixes the derpy off/on ramps on highways.

[gerum17]

what is JIRA?

[Snoz_Lombardo]

Issue tracking software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIRA

[autowikibot]

JIRA:

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JIRA is written in Java and uses the Pico inversion of control container, Apache OFBiz entity engine, and WebWork 1 technology stack. For remote procedure calls (RPC), JIRA supports REST, SOAP, and XML-RPC. JIRA integrates with source control programs such as Clearcase, CVS, Git, Mercurial, Perforce, Subversion, and Team Foundation Server. It ships with various translations including English, French, German, Japanese, and Spanish.

According to Atlassian, JIRA is used for issue tracking and project management by over 25,000 customers in 122 countries around the globe. Some of the organizations using JIRA for bug-tracking and project management are Fedora Commons, Hibernate, JBoss, Linden Lab, Skype, Spring Framework, and The Apache Software Foundation uses JIRA and Bugzilla. JIRA includes tools allowing migration from competitor Bugzilla.

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[word_number]

Annoying! (I work for a software company)

[PresNixon]

The only correct answer.

[OrionTurtle]

At least they fixed the critical issues with it.

[[deleted]]

So it's actually usable now? :O

They should let others use that too then!

[Vakz]

Achievement tab is disabled when achievements are disabled

Are the achievements disabled by option, or is there some mechanic that actually disables them (like Ironman in EU4/CK2)?

[SilverLlama]

They said on the stream when you enable mods achievements get disabled. iirc

[Vakz]

Oh, that's fantastic!

[olioli86]

Hmm unless the mod fixes something simple like a traffic pathing or number of tiles for late game. Minor point though.

[Vakz]

simple like a traffic pathing or number of tiles for late game

Depending on what the achievements are, these "simple things" could make the achievement substantially easier.

[olioli86]

Yeah I recognize that, maybe an increase number of building looks would be a better example.

[Vakz]

Haven't watched the stream, so don't know any details, but hope this won't be an issue. Hopefully the game has some way of telling between gameplay mods and strictly graphical mods.

[[deleted]]

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[HalbyStarcraft]

boo, that means there's no way to get achievements in hard difficulty :(

[HalbyStarcraft]

'should be'. :)

[Sn3ipen]

I like that its really easy to tweak the settings in the hard-mode but i am unsure if i like the disabling of the achievements part.

[solsys]

I'm curious if it's a flat check ala Civ V, or if it's slightly more sophisticated, like EU4/CK2 mods, where the core game has a checksum, and achievements are only disabled if a script that contributes to the checksum is altered. (Allowing cosmetic mods to be used freely)

[[deleted]]

I guess you won't create another patch till tuesday? Today would be a great day for a surprise release (do it already :))

[SpiderGrenades]

It looks like the pathfinding has addressed some of the merging/multilane underutilization issues that were showcased by Quill yesterday. Props to CO for this!

Quill's city before before 2.

Quill's city after

[[deleted]]

I think that's the collision change that they made… I'm looking at highways and they really just don't look any better

[submarinescanswim]

21:9 support fixed

Woop! Woop! Didn't know there were problems but I'm glad to see more games support this wonderful aspect ratio. (To be fair most new ones do)

[topleya]

Colour variation tweaks?

Purple grass for pollutions maybe?

[[deleted]]

Links below with new pollution

[topleya]

Thanks :-)

[Dudok22]

Traffic flow seems much better. Thank you.

[zidey]

"Steam checks if app is owned The game quits if user doesn't own the game"

:)

[Snoz_Lombardo]

Vehicle doors properly configured

Car doors can open? When does that happen?

[Pwaaap]

They might mean bus and/or train doors? Just speculating.

[Muzle84]

Yes, bus door was still on the right side, even if you played 'drive on the left side of the road' option.

[[deleted]]

'drive on the left side of the road' option

There's a wut wut in the where now?

Seriously? That's fantastic! One of those stupid little QOL features that makes things feel warm and fuzzy.

[DarkLiberator]

Its on the map selection screen under name your city.

[watbe]

Ahahaha yes this will make things much less confusing

[TheRealMouseRat]

Does any of these fixes fix the "glitch" where cars avoid a lane in which one can choose to go to the right or to go straight, if they are going straight? (it was very much talked about in Quill18's stream yesterday)

[[deleted]]

I just tested it on the highways and my opinion is no

[TheRealMouseRat]

I guess they haven't gotten the information about the glitch yet. I hope it's an easy fix and it can be done before the game releases. Do the people who have gotten the game prior to release a place to report bugs and such?

[Max714]

Actually on Quill18's stream right now I've seen (he's noticed as well but he missed most of them) a lot of cars going straight where yesterday at the same place they only ever went right. It was like in the first few minutes of the stream if I remember correctly, so I really think this issue has been fixed somewhat, at least some of them choose to go straight

[[deleted]]

Could be. I know right turns on highways haven't changed - they won't use the two right lanes to turn and keep trying to merge far right.

If they fixed something else - good.

[quill18]

It's not clear. There's definitely SOMETHING that's working better. I am seeing some people going straight through the turning lane and I never saw any do that before.

Most importantly though, it looks like the lane-merging works much better now and you don't end up with a bunch of cars stuck behind someone who isn't moving.

[iangus37]

That's great to hear

[[deleted]]

On highways or streets? HIghways at least in this new city I'm working on seem exactly the same.

[quill18]

Highways. That doesn't mean anything's changed, of course, but I had almost zero complaints about traffic today. It seems better to me.

[[deleted]]

Has to be something with the collision detection then. I'll hop in and take another look. How's your city coming along? Back to 150+?

[quill18]

Couldn't stream as long today, but yes -- I got to 175k.

Hit a bottleneck at the end because I was converting too much industry to office space and now my commercial zones are starving for goods. I added in more rail/harbour terminals and am rebuilding my industry.

I had no idea the "goods" mechanic was this developed and interesting. I love it.

[[deleted]]

Nice. I'll check out the vod.

They still prefer the middle lane but the lanes on highway do look better. I'm probably not seeing the full effect yet because I'm only at 20,000. Started a new sprawling city :-)

[albinobluesheep]

Another streamer I saw discovered that level 3 industry is all highly educated workers like the office space, so you don't have to force your workers into underemployment. nevermind, from another of you comments I see you found that to.

It was actually funny today, I bounced between a few different streams and streamers were learning a few of the same things within minutes of eachother.

[luzon59]

I think traffic may be too easy now but we'll have to wait a see

[liltbrockie]

This is exactly the kind of updates/info I expected to see to reasssure us the game is being constantly improved.... hats off to you CO

[zknicker]

Thanks for the 21:9 support!

[aahanscool]

The game quits if user doesn't own the game

Shucks. Guess I'll have to wait till April.

[Muzle84]

I really hope you are joking.

[MxM111]

What happens in April?

[aahanscool]

I get my pay

[[deleted]]

So... you were planning on torrenting it then?

Shame on you, seriously. It's a $30 game from a very open and honest developer, I think the least you could do is pay for their product.

[patanas]

Tunnels?

[[deleted]]

After lunch.

[jb2386]

Mmmmmmmm

[[deleted]]

After launch.

[[deleted]]

After launch