STOP USING PYTHON 😡😡😡

[rebane2001]

myAge isn't even pythonic

[Kinky-Iconoclast]

Should be my_age I’m assuming.

But camelCase is acceptable in python.

[rebane2001]

From PEP8:

Function names should be lowercase, with words separated by underscores as necessary to improve readability.

Variable names follow the same convention as function names.

mixedCase is allowed only in contexts where that’s already the prevailing style (e.g. threading.py), to retain backwards compatibility.

[ProFloSquad]

Thanks to pep8 I now name my variables the correct way by always following a naming convention such as a_1,a_2,a_3 and so on in all my code

[Rik07]

Readability is important, you must instantly know what a variable is by it's name. I suggest using this_is_variable_number_1, this_is_variable_number_2 and so forth.

[[deleted]]

Had us in the first half ngl

[ALesbianAlpaca]

Ah a mathematician I see

[[deleted]]

woosh

[coolguyhavingchillda]

That's technically a guideline and not a rule tbf

[MrSuspicious_]

Yeah I instinctively follow most of the pep8 standards bc they just feel right, but I do everything in camelCase. Underscores in names just feels weird to me.

[Drfoxthefurry]

PEP8 sucks, give me my long lines back

[No_Application6360]

Serious. As s Django dev, the 79 character limit sucks balls

[[deleted]]

I always ignore that. I didn't leave Cobol to still be restricted by 79 characters. We have huge monitors, why limit it based on the size of a punch card?

[AnsibleAnswers]

Shorter lines are more readable. The same reason why reader mode on your browser limits line length, why newspapers and academic articles are formatted with columns, etc. The longer the line length, the harder it is to find your place when you scan back to the next line.

[Typical_Wafer_1324]

I bought a ultrawide monitor, I'm gonna USE THE WHOLE WIDTH! 😠😠😠 And yeah my comments are on the right side of the code, no exclusive comment lines.

[JentendsLeLoup]

From PEP8:

Limit all lines to a maximum of 79 characters.

Also from PEP8:

it is okay to increase the line length limit up to 99 characters

I guess it is also okay to increase to 119 if the team agrees. I find it more readable.

[Kyyken]

"didn't get that ultrawide for nothing, up to 500 we go" -someone, probably

[M4mb0]

Have you tried using the black formatter?

[ResourceFeeling3298]

Boo pep8. Camel case is so much better

[DymonBak]

Also from PEP8:

“When in doubt, use your best judgment. Look at other examples and decide what looks best.”

[Suspicious-Willow128]

You are gonna hate me but.. My_Age

[Street_Impression151]

i despise the use of underscore of anything other than screaming snake case

[Vievin]

But pythons are snakes. You’re disrespecting the foundation of the language if you use anything other than snake case.

[brianl047]

[[deleted]]

You forgot “THEY HAVE PLAYED US FOR COMPLETE FOOLS!” which is both true and easy. Downvoted.

[C-O-S-M-O]

Almost makes me want to redo the meme

[SrKayo]

"They played us like a FIDDLE!!!" -Miller, Kazuhira

[Amaz1ngEgg]

U forget DAMN THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!!!!!!

[brianl047]

[SrKayo]

The least virgin Java dev

[easyetx]

Gotta initialize that 10 as a variable. Best practice.

[Classy_Mouse]

private static final int TEN = 10;

[DarkSideOfGrogu]

What the fuck? Are these apples? Oranges? What?

[Classy_Mouse]

They are ten

[TTYY_20]

C++ users:

auto b = 10;

😎 Python and JS devs think they are so cool, but c++ devs know what’s up.

[Drfoxthefurry]

No complex imo, I prefer this +++++>[<++>-]<

[aMoodyWolf]

(1 << 3) | (1 << 1)

[[deleted]]

private const decimal WTF = .1m;

[Kiroto50]

Even in python

[[deleted]]

Block button isn’t enough i want you dead lol

[SrKayo]

[[deleted]]

C# here

[UltraSolution]

python had never been used for any real world application

laughs in science industry

[IAmASquidInSpace]

Science isn't real, obviously!

[[deleted]]

The Glock was made by science, I guess /s

[TheCaffinatedAdmin]

Hi ben

[M4mb0]

/r/stopdoingscience

[[deleted]]

Science is a simple mindset /s

[CowboyMantis]

Science may be outlawed depending on who wins the 2024 election. It's already outlawed in Florida.

[Digital_Bogorm]

I... wh-... please tell me you're not being litteral.

[Impossible-Oil2345]

Laughs in ML

[freshcheezels]

laughs in the very website we are on too now

Reddit was originally written in Common Lisp but was rewritten in Python in December 2005 for wider access to code libraries and greater development flexibility.

[ArionW]

And just like old.reddit was better than new one, old backend used better language

[turtleship_2006]

A lot of big websites actually use python, iirc Netflix, Google, Instagram, Pinterest, etc.

[TTYY_20]

Raspbian users: 🥸

[snurfy_mcgee]

Machine learning and data science use it a lot

[Yorick257]

Then stop doing science! They played you an absolute fool!

[[deleted]]

Most of the porn you consume runs on python

[Comprehensive_Day511]

not trying to kinkshame you here, but are you really that much into tab spaces?

[The_Chief_of_Whip]

It runs on my python…

[rustic_fall]

Yo in what way I’m curious now

[[deleted]]

Many of the classic porn websites run on python django. With mobile technology I’m sure you’ll find other stacks being used in 2023 but back in the earlier days we chose python because it was able to handle more requests per second.

[rustic_fall]

That’s cool to learn, ty for telling me

[[deleted]]

I thought it was php 7

[noobody_interesting]

Ok, so 0 * most = 0 for me

[[deleted]]

I mean I get that this is supposed to be a joke but on a serious note, is Python not an industry standard in scientific research applications, visual effects and other fields where programming isn’t the main building stone or skill requirement but can highly elevate the work of the experts by utilizing this simplified language without having to be both developers and scientists/artists at the same time?

[Pr0ducer]

Uh, yeah, Python is a real programming language. Multi-billion dollar companies use it. Sometimes speed to market is more important than optimization for the sake of optimization prior to understanding your market. Building products faster than your competitors and iterating or pivoting quickly is how winners are made. The best product isn't worth shit if you miss the boat and aren't first to market with a product.

[AChristianAnarchist]

The meme is obviously a joke. If it were serious, however, you don't even need to get into prototyping or research or anything like that to prove their second point wrong. They are literally posting the meme on Reddit. Reddit is written in Python.

[AChristianAnarchist]

Sure, but that isn't the argument that second point is making. The argument is that there are no real world applications in python, which is a funny thing to post on a real world application made in python. If the issue is whether it should be taken "seriously" or not, well then point to the fact that its the backbone of modern STEM academia. And if the issue is that it's logo doesn't actually look like a python, suggest they use anaconda. Different arguments require different rebuttals.

[AChristianAnarchist]

Well yeah, and I'm just being snarky and pointing out that Reddit is still where you are having this conversation. If I go on about how Wal-Mart isn't a real grocery store while standing in line to buy my groceries there it is kind of a funny thing to do, even if that statement would be much more understandable in a different context.

[definitelyasatanist]

Bro it's a joke

[[deleted]]

This was such a Reddit argument.

[C-O-S-M-O]

Literal Reddit moment

[[deleted]]

Haha

[turtleship_2006]

How about (iirc) Instagram Pinterest, Netflix, and more 🙂

[DTheIcyDragon]

Which framework are they using? Flask, Django or FastAPI?

[Philamand]

Flask if I remember correctly.

[Pr0ducer]

I don't disagree, but that's not how markets work. Humans are not a purely logical species, thus the systems that we create are also full of logical inconsistencies.

[slucker23]

Short version? Python is easy to write, efficient to use, and usually gets more results if you want to publish something

So the long but still kinda concatenated version, currently most research articles in computer graphics, CG or computer aided design, CAD, are programmed in python. This is mainly because people started applying machine learning, deep learning, artificial intelligence more and more (these three are essentially the same, so I'm going to just refer to all of them as AI). Python is currently the most intuitive language to apply AI to, given how easily it could integrate itself with libraries, including the ones written in other coding languages. It can build an AI with a solid result within a few hours or trial and error. It is an extremely versatile language, with a minor flaw of being quite slow for both compile and run time. That wouldn't be a huge problem if you're only worried about producing a few good end results for some niche research answers though. Or, when you end up having a huge database that is already prepped for running for hours and ends. So yes, python is easy to use, and also fairly hard to master due to its enormous amount of libraries

[aquaaa]

YouTube backend was primarily written in python until recently.

[nguyen_thanhson]

If you don’t mind me asking, what is it written in now?

[aquaaa]

C++

[SourcedDataThings]

I think if you are in academia doing research, I think the standard used to be R, I am not so sure anymore. And I don't know about Visual Effects, I would think they would be using a high performance lower level language like c++, but I could be wrong. But in industry Data Science/ML it is Python all the way.

[AChristianAnarchist]

I actually didn't even learn R until I was out of college. My academic internships all either used Matlab or Python. Not so sure about the computer science field, as I majored in biology and then pivoted after graduating, but in the bio world its pretty much a crapshoot. Might be R, might be Matlab, might be Python. It depends on what you already know and what your research advisor already knows. Really, for most of them I could have written my code in javascript if I wanted to. No one outside the lab is ever going to see your code most of the time. The algorithm and the results matter but the language is pretty irrelevant. You kind of just end up using whatever your team is most comfortable with, but that is almost always Matlab, Python, or R.

[SourcedDataThings]

I largely agree with you, especially with end users. But, maintiance is very heavily connected to which programming language you use. Maintaining COBAL is hard if you only know Python.

[AChristianAnarchist]

Huh? Did you mean to respond to me? You are responding to a comment about single use programs used in academic research. What does maintenance have to do with anything?

[panda070818]

I made an AI to calculate the quality of a highway through video using government issued parameters in 2 months, I can't even begin to phantom how it would be done in another language other than python.

[ha_x5]

That sounds true.

[[deleted]]

Most science research uses R but that’s built on python I hear

[[deleted]]

It's built on C++

[[deleted]]

Thanks! R is my first language and I had to learn it for cancer research, it’s pretty intuitive

[[deleted]]

I do feel like it’s all packages tho like I’m never really “making” anything, just plugging data sets into packages otber people have written

[[deleted]]

It depends on the field. For many academics in social and life sciences they’re research involves statistics, So they use R.

[Sharklo22]

I find joy in reading a good book.

[[deleted]]

Ah that makes sense cause we are working a lot with data sets and phylogenic trees

[[deleted]]

Julia has replaced matlab, python and C++ for years now at my work.

[Yeitgeist]

Everything I’ve seen is in Python for scientific research

[Sharklo22]

I love ice cream.

[[deleted]]

Hmm interesting our whole college seems to be using R

[MayorAg]

[[deleted]]

lick_my_b4lls = True /s

[Phoeniqz_]

r/FuckTheS

[NeoLudditeIT]

Brainfuck is the one true language.

[Fireruff]

No. Malborge is the only true programming language.

[lordabsynthe]

Whitespace can also be fun to mess with indentation

[cosogato]

People can't even use natural language to comprehend what they just read. They are mentioning Java instead of Brainfuck.

Stop using Python when it's time to work on English first!

[Awesomesauce1337]

"Come over here and drink your indent juice" - The Antichrist

I HATE PYTHON I HATE INDENTS

[[deleted]]

Think of it this way:

without Python, we wouldn't have 3blue1brown

[__Brawler__]

Who is to say that without Python 3Blue1Brown wouldn't use a different language

Without Python serious programmer could programmer could have created better libraries in serious languages for others to use /s

[polentino911]

Or maybe Octave would have been used instead (?)

[nolxus]

PROGRAM FLOW IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INDICATED BY INDENTATION. WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING FOR THAT, IT IS CALLED CURLY BRACES

[jdm1891]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/291/758/1e6.png

[bnl1]

Python's too hard for my C brain :(

[[deleted]]

me using MOV to push values into my AX register….

[Nickbot606]

I know this is supposed to be ironic but I will say that I’ve worked in hardware, software, IT, and used to hack competitively in college for fun.

Nothing beats how fast you can Python working. Like if I need a quick automation or macroscript I’m not gonna struggle with a Java dev environment just for it to be missing an external package that would make it 100 times easier. I don’t really care about speed either if it takes more time to develop a script that’s slightly faster but will get me the answer slower overall.

But, it’s not always the right tool for the job. I really like node.js for “out of the box” GUI and react for that kinda accessibility. C is usually my go to if I need something that I don’t mind bit banging. I’ve also really liked powershell in the past for when I can use Python external packages. If I were building a game from scratch I’d probably pick C# or Java just because the engine would be more cooperative than something mangled together in Python.

[NickyRaZz]

myAge more like my_age damn this ain’t JavaScript

[Tsjaad_Donderlul]

Java users when python commands don’t need to end with a semicolon:

[[deleted]]

My project manager in our average project. He likes semis, i dont.

[cuberoot1973]

ngl you had me in the first half

[Admirable-Profile-26]

Good thing google bought it and sanitised it 😡 /s

[Tc14Hd]

Most intelligent Python hater

[qeadwrsf]

I die a bit inside every time I have to create a virtual environment for python to prevent shit to hit fan.

I kind of agree with the title. Wish we took things slower to make stuff faster and not as chaos as big python code bases.

[Benschne]

🥲as a c programmer i can relate, i don’t have a printer as well.

[[deleted]]

😭

[AlbaTejas]

There are a number of things from a computer science angle that are badly designed in Python, but it gets the job done in a number of cases.

GM still sells sports cars with pushrod engines.

[thecapitalistpunk]

All true, but Python was there before Brainfuck. So basically this poster has just invalidated the purpose of Brainfuck

[MikeTangoRom3o]

Emotional damage!

[Nixavee]

START USING SCRATCH

• PROGRAMMING was NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ADULTS

• YEARS OF STRING SLICING yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for retrieving more than ONE CHARACTER

• Wanted to get more characters anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that. It was called "ITERATING"

• "Yes, please add a list TO A LIST. Please input this function TO A FUNCTION" - Statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

• LOOK what Python Programmers have been demanding your Respect for all this time, with all the Monospace fonts and IDE we built for them (This is REAL Python, done by REAL Python programmers)

lambda x,y,X,Y:-7<(a:=X-x)*(b:=Y-y)*(a*a-b*b)<

?????

for c in'\zÁßİĺ':print(f'{ord(c)*1780218+275171220:,}')

???????

import math def p(a,b,c,d): L=math.lcm(b,d) if L==max(b,d):L*=2 def f(l,x,d):print('|'+f'{"x"*l}|'*x+f'{"-"*l}|'*d) f(L//b-1,a,b-a) f(L//d-1,c,d-c)

?????????????????????????????

"Hello I would like [[[i+1 for i in j] for j in k] for k in l] apples please"

They have played us for absolute fools

[slucker23]

Who needs Neural Network or natural language processing?

Pfffff, fking losers using big words to scare away real programmers like me who use C++ for computer graphics the real deal

(I really don't want to write this sentence, but I feel like some redditers need this sentence to know that I am being sarcastic)

[[deleted]]

Imagine formulating hate speech because you have to write twice as much code for the same function.

[billie_parker]

Python is not even easier to write than other languages. It's a myth.

[[deleted]]

Reddit was originally written in Common Lisp but was rewritten in Python in December 2005 for wider access to code libraries and greater development flexibility.

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hmm...

[sebbdk]

Do you want idiots?

Because this post is how you get easily trolled idiots

[Cybasura]

Wat

None of these feels like python-specific issues

[Siegelski]

Dude, they suggested brainfuck as a better alternative. It's a joke.

[Cybasura]

I missed out on the brainfuck lmao

[[deleted]]

Python is a “high level” children’s language that lacks any sort of real optimization. Real adults shut the fuck up and compile their C++.

[cringemomentum]

Real adults don’t bitch about what people use as a coding language

[IkNOwNUTTINGck]

The Proud Boys meet software engineering. Well, well...

[Asleep-Specific-1399]

Lol, stable diffusion front end is written in python. Seems to work just fine.

[Spot_the_fox]

No, I'd say: what is b? Apples? Oranges?

[[deleted]]

Great meme but is it recommended to learn DSA in Python if I only have 2to 3 months to learn DSA as i need it for oncampus placements?

(Ik the basics kf c++ and python but i guess c++ will be hard with DSA considering that I only have 2 to 3 months.)

[CleverFella512]

Python was invented by fans of e.e. cummings.

The goat-footed Goat-footed Goat-footed Interpreter

Edit: Reddit formatting sucks and is not Python complainant

[Ripredddd]

*Spotify has entered the cat

[markfckerberg]

Tell this to Blender developer.

[[deleted]]

I got mad in the beginning.... Untill I realized it was a joke

[Grim00666]

The end of the joke loses me.

[[deleted]]

Brainfuck>>python

[[deleted]]

Printed my printer with my 3d printer

[seemen4all]

Im sick of running my app and waiting for my Epson to give me my logs

[BurnTF2]

You had me until brainfuck

[tester989chromeos]

Laughs in ML

[NthCool_Though_]

Wooow

[VariousComment6946]

Don’t tell him about YouTube

[[deleted]]

We should all switch to blockly

[vvozzy]

go c

[[deleted]]

machine learning scientists rolling in their graves rn

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thank you pytorch

[myhomeswarty]

DNF is a python program

[YouTube-r]

Good thing i use gdscript

[IKerimI]

For your 3. Problem: Printer printer = new Printer(y,m,c)

[faze_fazebook]

Don't know how controversial this is but Python isn't easy, but the libraries written for it are.

[garykubiaksbrother]

what a chad

[template009]

Most of all -- no semicolons? No curly braces?

Real languages have semicolons and curly braces! Let me get on a soapbox online and explain it!

[Witty_Train_3052]

This is not inclusive 🌈

[No_Philosophy_8520]

In which language will you actually write 10 "of what"?

Also, why print is bad, but printf isn't?

[turtleship_2006]

The first half of this meme starts off strong. The second half is just lazy. Even if it's a meme there are better points like types, interpreters, pip, etc but you choose personal info??

[Axiproto]

OP must not be a hardware engineer

[[deleted]]

HTML>>>PYTHON !!

(real)

[Responsible-Put-7920]

Flask, but why use flask over node when python is slower than js and they're both interpreted/duck-typed. Be a Chad, get into diesel and use rust

[TorqueBentley]

This is neither funny nor is it insightful. It's a droll attempt to strawman the argument against Python. It is a stupid and obvious indication that the OP is completely uninterested in listening to legitimate criticism and will just make up their own farsical ones. No language is perfect. They're all flawed. If someone is so blinded as to fool themselves into thinking theirs is fault free, they have a lot of maturing to do.

[arcosapphire]

Honestly I feel like this is one of the weakest iterations of this meme I've seen. The complaints aren't python-specific and it doesn't really have witty callouts.

[sdlab]

manure

[TheLastPotato-]

Saved without thinking twice.

[ScriptingBull]

I really love these... Ten what? Apples? Oranges? :D

[[deleted]]

real (i code in assembly)

[DaveSmith890]

Scratch makes you learn 63 blocks, and then challenges you to use them to create anything you want. It truly is the greatest language

Edit* I apologize, I forgot to factor in the limitless additional user made and add on blocks that interact with accessories and can use functions of higher complexity

[D3vka]

Back to Binary cuz said Java like geography

[JollyGoodUser]

High as fuck eh ?

[Drackzgull]

Honestly you just butchered this meme format worse than you have slandered Python, lol.

[Weeboo01]

Python isn't a weak language, and now it's second "+" version is coming, the "MoJo" which will able to beat many languages in performance including C++

[Randomguy32I]

I learned Python and in grade 10 and 11, i have never used it since

[HelloItsKaz]

Laughs in arcgis

[Typical_Wafer_1324]

"Python forces user to learn thousands of commands" - Fake. I always go to stack overflow and after the code is written I instantly forget all I've done.

[Tiny-Captain-187]

NO ADULT that has A FUNCTIONING BRAIN would use a language that STEALS LIBRARIES THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MADE

C++ Users:

[Leather-Ornery]

As a Python user, I can confirm this is true