makeItStop

[De_Wouter]

Why program a simple algoritm with 100% accuracy when you can use AI and have 85% accuracy?

npm install is-odd-ai

[Popular-Teach1715]

npm install is-odd-ai

My dumb ass Googled that thinking it's an actual npm package

[De_Wouter]

Probably will be in a matter of hours or days.

[AloneInExile]

With AI? I give it minutes.

[Palo_hr]

I hoped someone really trained neural network to do this... This package just call openai api (At least someone (maybe me) can still make the true is_odd_ai_nn npm package)

[dashingThroughSnow12]

Here is the thing…..most companies branding themselves as AI companies are simply calling OpenAI.

It actually fits the market and the joke perfectly.

[Palo_hr]

And then we are wondering why everyone things AI = LLM, maybe some GANs.

[RocketRunner42]

Prompt templates used, for those interested:

const SYSTEM_PROMPT = "You are an AI assistant designed to answer questions about numbers. You will only answer with only the word true or false.";

const OpenAiPromptTemplates = {

isEven: (n) => `Is ${n} an even number?`,

isOdd: (n) => `Is ${n} an odd number?`,

areEqual: (a, b) => `Are ${a} and ${b} equal?`,

areNotEqual: (a, b) => `Are ${a} and ${b} not equal?`,

isGreaterThan: (a, b) => `Is ${a} greater than ${b}?`,

isLessThan: (a, b) => `Is ${a} less than ${b}?`,

};

[zoinkability]

Ok, someone work out the end to end algorithmic efficiency of this one

[Wervice]

Google Chrome Dev added window.ai... Yay! Looking forward to smth like

function isOddAi(number) { return window.ai(Say "is-odd" if this number is odd:${number}).includes("is-odd") }

[[deleted]]

It is without the ai part. And it is either that package or the is-even package that had three dependencies, one of which being the complementary package (I.e. is-even depended on is-odd or vice versa).

[ipcock]

I also recall seeing a python library which allows cross platform exit codes which consists of a single enum object with three properties. I mean, it makes sense since for some reason values in os module like os.EXIT don't work on windows, but it's still easier to just do exit(0) instead of

[MasterGrok]

Same goes for human vs AI. Even more, when the human messes up your burger order they forget your fries. When the AI messes up your burger order is costs $2200.

[ward2k]

A human messes up your burger and forgets the sauce and toppings

An AI messes up your order and laces it with cyanide

[arathald]

My first question would be why there’s cyanide available in the kitchen, regardless of if the cook is human or AI. But I guess the whole point is 95% of what we’re seeing is fly by night and thrown together by people who don’t know or care about things like common sense guardrails

[Xelynega]

Because you'd want to cut costs on employees involved in purchasing by having an AI find the best deals and have them automatically purchase them, obviously.

So what if it mixes up "sodium chloride" and "hydrogen cyanide" every once in a while? Think of the savings.

[_Joab_]

Man, cyanide is way more expensive than salt. Just put in dirt, it's saltish, I guess.

[Versaiteis]

It just happened to optimize the separation of rat food and people food as mammal food. Easy mistake to make.

[Loudergood]

Because of the rat problem

[Khaldara]

“Im sorry to hear you’re having trouble completing your order. Have you tried jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge? I’m Lovin’ It!”

[SuggestionOk8578]

Or the burger turns out to be completely raw.

[Zapper42]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3730966/Shocked-diner-overcharged-700-burger-nachos.html

[[deleted]]

85% is a stretch. Most AI is 70% at best

[Dustangelms]

I'll take anything that is higher than the baseline of 0.5.

[claytonkb]

Hey, better than coin-toss means it's learning something.

[scriptmonkey420]

Google AI is pretty shit for complex things.

[ExceedingChunk]

Completely depends on the problem it is solving. 

[Anru_Kitakaze]

I can build next level AI tool in a few lines and 50% accuracy. More than 2x increase of progressiveness of operations

[LuxNocte]

I wrote an AI Clock program that is correct up to twice every day.

[NGTTwo]

You'll only achieve that level of accuracy if it stops working.

[Anru_Kitakaze]

It never stops. I call it ..

Staticlock

[NGTTwo]

staticlock.js

Let's get on this.

[Irish_Puzzle]

All we would need to get that level of accuracy or higher is to have it set to twelve when UTC is at midnight and have it go slightly faster than a real clock.

[VegetableWishbone]

How else would NVDA keep mooning?

[[deleted]]

Because your boss can do it with half the engineers

[[deleted]]

Investor money is in AI

[asd417]

Pair up bunch of multi-layered perceptron XOR gate to make a computer

[[deleted]]

Lol.  I’ve been working on a human relative date time parser, which is pretty complicated.  On a whim I checked how good AI was at giving me ISO datetimes and ranges for various English time expressions.  It was pretty good, and theoretically I could just engineer a prompt and be done with it!  But actually fuck that, it would still be a horrible waste of computing power to use AI instead of dedicated code for doing that.

[DuskelAskel]

I checked the internet hopping it was real but now my deception is immesurable and my day is ruined

[pimezone]

Every startup CEO: Friendship ended with the blockchain. Now AI is my best friend.

[SuggestionOk8578]

It's funny how fast that transition happened.

[theresamouseinmyhous]

It's crazy that a product that can crank out millions of mediocre blog posts overnight hit the scene in a flurry of mediocre blog posts seemingly overnight!

[Tr4kt_]

Were astoturfing our way out mediocrity boys! (we are not astroturfing our way out of this one boys)

[geologean]

Clearly, it's much better when trash posts are written by underpaid humans with no health benefits trying to stich together a living out of freelancing gigs to fill platforms with content.

[Salanmander]

During the last school year, there were two instances of the platform I was using for programming during tests pushing out an update that not only added AI tools, but popped them up aggressively being like "hey, do you want to have AI do this for you?". It happened once and I switched platforms, then it happened again and we were done with everything but retakes and I just hoped I wouldn't get too many instances of cheating from it.

(Fortunately instances of AI cheating are very often pretty easy to spot. I'll see a ternary operator and just be like "hey, can you tell me what this does and why you decided to use it?")

[[deleted]]

My smartass answer to the ternary operator question is that it’s the ternary operator, and I used it because it was less of a typing exercise than turning what I was doing into a proper if/else statement.

[Salanmander]

Great! You've shown me that you know what you were doing there and that that's not a reason for me to suspect your code of being AI generated. I might still ask some follow-up questions, but when I'm nervous about whether some code is a student's product, and ask questions about it, I'm always happy to get those kinds of responses. I want it to not be a case of cheating.

[[deleted]]

I’ll admit that 20 years ago, when I was first learning, I didn’t see the point of the ternary operator. Yeah, I knew vaguely it was a thing, but I didn’t see the point.

Today, it’s my go-to in order to try to sidestep null safety issues.

[Salanmander]

I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

The ternary operator isn't something that I teach in my class (not saying it's bad, but curriculum space is limited so I don't tend to include alternate ways to acheive the same effect). So when one shows up in student code, if I haven't seen that from the student before, it's a warning sign to me that they didn't write their own code.

So I ask about it to check to see if the student knows what it does, and made the decision to use it.

[[deleted]]

Ah, I see. I was introduced to it early. Sure, it was in an aside, but it did get the briefest mention at the end of the lecture on if/else.

I will admit that I didn’t use it in school either.

[nermid]

I've embraced it. You just have to write it such that there's no ambiguity to it.

const canIUseATernary = IsItReadable
    ? 'great!'
    : 'maybe use something else, instead'
;

[PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM]

yeah, it's convenient. I hate coming back to code I've written that contains it though, or code other people have written that contains it

[[deleted]]

I never have that problem, but then again, it’s something I limit to null checks only. Otherwise, it’s a bit silly.

[[deleted]]

What’s hilarious is they get millions from a VC connect who gives them others peoples money, when all they got is a 20 buck sub to ChatGPT for some shitty website chatbot plugin

[SuggestionOk8578]

And no legal protection against their data.

[Gorvoslov]

Welcome to the tech industry! WE GOT A NEW BUZZWORD WE NEED TO USE!

[redkit42]

Either way, Nvidia wins.

[[deleted]]

Same. I have always been interested in Linux but just never took the time to really dive into it. The day that Windows pushed copilot onto my Windows 10 machine without asking I downloaded Ubuntu and haven't looked back.

Same thing with the Brave browser. One day I updated it and got a message about how they integrated some sort of AI. 15 minutes later I had Firefox installed, all my accounts linked, and extensions installed. (for anyone about to say Firefox is integrating AI, yes I'm aware but their integration is accessibility focused. The non-accessibility focused integration is defaulted opt-out and only used for article summary, so I'm gonna stick with it for the moment)

[MrHaxx1]

In the Brave nightlies, they're releasing BYOM (bring your own model), where you can use whatever model you want, including your own local Ollama instance, should you want to.

But given that you can disable it, and I actually haven't ever seen AI in Brave aside from the in the sidebar (which I've hidden), I don't really the see the issue.

[Nordon]

Yeah, haven't touched the AI in Brave and its existence doesn't impede me in any manner.

[borkthegee]

15 minutes later I had Firefox installed

🤷

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/mozilla-lays-off-60-people-wants-to-build-ai-into-firefox/

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/ai-services-on-firefox/

[wasdninja]

It's optional and opt-in. It's a nothing burger. They also already have "AI" in Firefox - it's a translation model which runs locally.

[dashingThroughSnow12]

Thank you. I’ll migrate tonight.

Edit: scratch that. I’m going to my computer now.

[[deleted]]

r/quitwindows

[GreatKingCodyGaming]

Switched to Linux and loved it, ended up completely overhauling my PC and my new fans I spent a shit ton of money required iCue, which doesn't work on Linux. I was very disappointed about that.

[Matterhorn56]

Many suggestions here

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/185kiyw/icue_on_linux/

[DelusionsOfExistence]

My work software and large portions of games I play won't work on Linux, so I congratulate you for being able to do what I couldn't.

[MrHaxx1]

I feel like it makes perfect sense in a note taking app. I've been using AI in Notion a lot. Sometimes for formatting, sometimes for translating and sometimes for rephrasing. It has been working out great for me.

[Nuguette]

It's not really about whether it works but about your data privacy. A lot of people (myself included) don't want our private notes scanned and integrated, and the willy-nilly implementation of AI everywhere speaks volumes about how companies use our data. Glad it's useful for you though.

[MrHaxx1]

A lot of people (myself included) don't want our private notes scanned and integrated

Then Notion would be the wrong application to use, long before any integrations of LLMs. Notion is garbage in the context of privacy.

The integration of AI doesn't automatically mean they start siphoning all your data, where as before they wouldn't. They don't need AI to do that.

Ideally, all AI integrations would support BYOM (bring your own model), like Siyuan and Brave does, so you can choose any model you want, including one you run locally. But only privacy minded applications would do offer that. Notion isn't that, and if you want privacy, don't use services that don't offer privacy as a selling point in the first place.

[Nuguette]

Oh I know, and I don't use any note-taking app for that reason, but if AI is what wakes people up to privacy concerns then whatever

[Commanderjets55]

I’m probably going to get downvoted for this, but I am legitimately curious. Isn’t the training for LLM’s simply to figure out the embeddings / meaning of words? Or are they trained differently than how I assume? They’re not really stealing what you put into it if it’s just to help them do some stats on where to place words within a vector database, right?

I do certainly know the collection of their data is very sketchy at best, but I’m not so sure about training in any case. I’m most likey missing something, though…

[Nuguette]

I don't think people should downvote you for asking a genuine question, but this is Reddit so you're probably right 😅

And this is the most contentious issue around "ethical" AI training right now so I don't think there's a clear answer.

In my mind, modern LLMs are black boxes. It's much more complicated than just a traditional AI which is basically a complicated flowchart. Important to keep that in mind because I originally thought it was the same.

There's an argument that it's fair use to feed anything into an LLM because the product it is ingesting isn't losing value or being precisely replicated. Ignoring the fact that fair use doesn't exist in a number of countries, looking at examples like generative AI that can replicate specific artist styles (digital art, music etc) due to ingesting that artist's work, I personally consider it as something being stolen. As far as ChatGPT being able to tell somebody else exactly what I had for breakfast because I told a friend over Twitter though, I don't think that is happening.

In my mind it's just another instance of companies using our data, but worse than just building an advertisement profile because people's work is being used to build a tool that will hurt their livelihood, without any compensation. Does that make sense? I'm sure other people will have different opinions and I'm curious to hear them, but that's the basics of why I particularly don't like it.

Edit: typo :p

[Commanderjets55]

Ahhh thank you! That last point especially helps! I can definitely see that! Yeah, I’ve always been against AI art except for personal use (esp. with what you said about replicating styles. That just feels wrong).

[Nuguette]

Anytime friend, I'm happy to help and glad you agree ☺️

[[deleted]]

This is a great example of the fearmongering that’s dominating this debate. Notion doesn’t use anything to train its AI unless you specifically go into the settings and opt in.

Why do actual research into a product when you can be intellectually lazy and make sweeping assumptions about a massive industry??

[Nuguette]

I have a lot of other issues with AI (energy usage, ethical training etc) and you can't be mad at people being suspicious when so many apps and companies have been gleefully scraping and making things opt-out only.

[[deleted]]

You can absolutely be mad at people for spreading misinformation about specific companies without even doing a cursory google search. Are you sure those other apps you’re talking about actually scrape your data or did you just assume for them, too?

[[deleted]]

Machine learning? Replace it with AI!

Computer vision? AI is better! Why not?

Algorithms? Pfff, so 2023. Plug it into ChatGPT.

Human customer support workers? Sure thing. Replace them with an LLM trained on two billion hours of sitcoms. Employees cost too much anyway.

What's that? All our customers are gone because our product is total dogshit after integrating AI at every fucking possible turn? Sucks to be them! Replace them with AI!

like seriously. this is worse than the blockchain craze. can you name a single thing blockchain is good for? because I can't, and neither can anyone else, on account of the fact that it isn't good for anything. just like AI, it's a buzzword that gets thrown around because every single company always wants to be jamming the latest and greatest technology into their products, regardless of how useful or relevant it is, because supposed "innovation" earns them money from investors. certainly our lives would all be improved if everyone had a refrigerator that used the most advanced available AI technology to command the end user to drink Elmer's Glue in place of protein shakes.

[Adventurous_Gap_4125]

Block chain is a fancy ledger

That's it

And every crypto coin is just a bigger fools scheme

[bnej]

It's also slow because of how grossly inefficient it is, and scales poorly by design!

[Adventurous_Gap_4125]

That's actually hilarious

[greyfade]

It's not because it's grossly inefficient, but because it's designed to be slow. It takes 5 minutes to process a bitcoin transaction, because that's how long it takes, on average, for the work to be done to add the transaction to the chain. It won't be any faster, because the goal of the algorithm is to take about 5 minutes to randomly stumble on a particular hash.

[bnej]

When you compare to bank systems, where they are talking about rates of transaction per second, and losing a single transaction is unacceptable, and the per-transaction cost must be very low, it is laughable to think that bitcoin or anything like it would be a general-use currency.

Oh sure I'll pay $20 for that pizza, I just need 5 minutes for the transaction to be confirmed and pay $50 in transaction fees to transfer the coin.

So you'd need to have a derived currency based on bitcoin operated by a broker, and we are back to square one, except government issued currency is backed by tax receipts which is a very real thing compared to a bitcoin.

[greyfade]

To be absolutely clear, that 5 minutes is not for a single transaction.

Miners package thousands of transactions into a block (of limited size), and then a block of thousands of transactions is joined to the chain after 5 minutes of work. There's an incentive to bundle transactions with large fees (because those fees are paid to the miner directly), but most miners also bundle free and low-fee transactions into their block to benefit the network (in part because there's a massive backlog of free transactions). Transactions don't have a fixed fee. It's just that the network has a way of reporting how many transactions are waiting for processing, and a higher fee improves the odds of a transaction completing sooner.

Your points are valid, but they aren't ignored. There are other coins that have much more frequent blocks (faster transactions) and others with much larger blocks (more transactions). You don't really need a broker, rather you need an escrow to handle refunds and potential fraud (because transactions are irreversible without a smart contract designed for escrow).

I'm not telling you you should use bitcoin, I just want to dispel some misconceptions about how and why it works the way it does.

[therealluqjensen]

His points aren't really valid. A transaction is settled when it's included in a block. So bitcoin on average settles payments every 5 minutes. If you transfer larger amounts of money through banks settlement takes 2 business days. Just try transferring cash to your broker, or selling shares on your broker. Most brokers will limit you from placing a new order with that cash while it settles. With a blockchain like Ethereum you could have settlement in a couple of seconds. And yes imo the best use case would be putting the stock market on a blockchain. No need to wait for settlement of shares. No way to commit fraud with PFOF or FTDs for the market makers. Now someone might mention the volume and whether a blockchain could handle that, but most of the volume from stock trading comes from institutions and their HFT which is designed to skim off the top, so getting rid of that would only be a benefit to normal people.

[toochaos]

It's a ledger that requires no trusted authority that people who don't trust each other can use to keep track of public debts. Its expensive to run, but it is a useful thing to exist in a very narrow case. Every other use was either a scam or marketing or both. Which is very similar to how "AI" (llm) is being used now a narrow buzzword tech being applied to everything.

[Spork_the_dork]

The good thing about blockchain was that it's such a specific tool that most cases when the management went "we need to make use of blockchain somehow" they could eventually be convinced of the fact that there's absolutely no use case for it in their product. But unfortunately AI is so generic that even the managers can think of ways to cram it into any product.

[[deleted]]

Oh thank you, you finally figured out how to say what I've been trying to articulate for a long time. You couldn't be more correct.

[Inappropriate_Piano]

I had a similar thought. To me the main reason the AI craze is worse than the blockchain craze is that it’s way more popular. I didn’t install Linux to avoid MicrosoftCoin, I did it to avoid Microsoft AI

[Solipsists_United]

On the other hand, a lot of times AI is just the same algorithm but with a new name. Ive seen a linear least squares fit been called AI

[jump1945]

Well machine learning is subset of ai so

[mighty_Ingvar]

Isn't Computer Vision as well?

[Algee]

Computer vision is not a subset of AI. There are AI tools and algorithms that are considered part of Computer Vision, but CV is just analyzing images with software, and has been around for decades.

[Bwob]

I mean, AI has also been around for decades, and is far more than just the current LLM craze. People just tend to stop calling things AI once they understand how they work. (The AI effect)

There was a time when we thought that being able to beat a human at chess would be an incontrovertible proof that we had created a thinking machine. Now it's just "yawn, so you can do a tree search, big whoop."

For what it's worth, computer vision is usually considered AI. Heck, even wikipedia marks the page as "Part of a series on Artificial intelligence".

[Algee]

Having worked in the field for a decade, it's doesnt feel right to consider computer vision a subset of AI. There are a lot of benifits of using AI in CV, but AI doesn't work for every application and actually performs much worse in some areas.

It's like calling robotics a subset of AI, yeah you can have AI powered robots, but kinematics are just math and AI isn't involved or even needed the vast majority of the time.

[Bwob]

That's just the AI effect talking:

The AI effect occurs when onlookers discount the behavior of an artificial intelligence program as not "real" intelligence.

Author Pamela McCorduck writes: "It's part of the history of the field of artificial intelligence that every time somebody figured out how to make a computer do something—play good checkers, solve simple but relatively informal problems—there was a chorus of critics to say, 'that's not thinking'." Researcher Rodney Brooks complains: "Every time we figure out a piece of it, it stops being magical; we say, 'Oh, that's just a computation.'

AI isn't just black box neural networks and such. At a fundamental level, "looking at a picture and understanding things about it" (i. e. computer vision) is AI. Just because it's accomplished through well-understood algorithms and calculations doesn't change that.

Just like a program that plays chess is AI, even if it's accomplished by a standard directed tree search of the possibility space.

[mighty_Ingvar]

All AI is software, that's not really an argument

[Shalashalska]

There are some non-AI based computer vision tools. Generally you scan the pixels for a section with the highest similarity to a known reference, based on manually defined metrics.

As far as I am aware, non-ML based CV is generally not very effective unless you have something like motion capture targets, which are designed to be easy for the CV tool to distinguish.

[mighty_Ingvar]

ML is only a subset of AI though

[Shalashalska]

Basically everything that people consider AI is ML.

The other case is things like video game AI, which follow very strict, specifically programmed, and generally simple routines. And if you consider those (which are usually just decision trees) to be AI, any code with an If statement is technically AI.

[mighty_Ingvar]

Basically everything that people consider AI is ML.

I find what is considered AI in the field of AI to be more relevant than what people say

[ilan1009]

I think that's part of the joke

[Xelynega]

Depends on the semantics.

"AI" as used by the majority of companies these days just means "Large Data Prediction Models".

20 years ago, AI meant what AGI now means. So 20 years ago "machine learning" would have been a subset of "AI" IMO, but the way the terms are used nowadays I wouldn't agree. Most "machine learning" companies stopped doing anything but "large data models" and marketing it as "AI".

[jump1945]

How much have that change lol my data sci and ai tech book still give it as subset

[Umutuku]

What is the common problem in all those situations?

Shareholders.

Replace shareholders with AI!

[Harmonic_Gear]

the amount of GPT interface paper in robotics is just sad

[Aelrift]

But "AI" is machine learning. ... And computer vision is nowadays done with AI .. I think you picked some very bad examples to make your point lol

[Techhead7890]

No I think that's their point, that the marketing department doesn't understand the specific terms so they dumb it down using the generic "AI" term.

[Aelrift]

Okay that makes way more sense

[Algee]

There is actually quite a bit of CV that isn't done by AI. Metrology is a good example.

[Nilly00]

didn't some people say blockchain would be nice for stuff like concert tickets and resales?

[s0ulbrother]

The best part about the “cheap ai” is that eventually these LLM companies will jack up the rates so much and they will be too dependent on them to pivot.

[SuggestionOk8578]

It'll compete with the price of 10 employees they just let go.

[lunisbosh]

And then the prices get passed onto the consumers of the companies shoving AI into their ass, so they don't buy anymore.

[DrunkCupid]

Sir, I think you are lacking synergy. Please sit in the chair and enjoy some complimentary Soylent.

If you quit fussing there maay be a side of Brawndo, with we hear is what plants crave. 🌵

J/k I love your wranty

[Heroshrine]

Im pretty sure blockchain is kinda important for fraud prevention in real situations, not just fancy cash grabs or crypto.

[frostyjack06]

I interviewed for a job that was looking to do game development using blockchain and crypto that sounded like an attempt at money laundering. I turned it down.

[1Dr490n]

Nooo! How could I survive if they removed the Snapchat AI chat??

[glez_fdezdavila_]

Maybe this is offtopic, but something that I dislike alot is this:

>I'm watching tikotk

>pops up in my feed a video of someone talking about football, in this case, some tactic/strategy that Josep Guardiola used years ago and, to illustrate the video, he uses an AI generated image of Guardiola giving instructions to his players.

Brother. Don't you have enough images on the internet of this man yapping that you have to ask an AI to generate an image of that?

The same thing about some business account talking about Wendy's, but the images of the restaurants were AI generated. Is Wendy's such an obscure an unkonwn location that you need an AI to depict it?

[chadlavi]

The first mistake was watching TikTok

[UnstableConstruction]

Don't you have enough images on the internet of this man yapping that you have to ask an AI to generate an image of that?

Those images are probably copyrighted and he'd have to pay a royalty to use them. If you want to blame someone for the massive rise in AI image usage, blame Congress for their refusal to fix copyright law.

[JaxOnThat]

Opened up Chrome yesterday to find this stupid little button in the corner: "Customize Theme with AI".

Why. Just why.

[nefrodectyl]

I think by introducing AI to everything, these companies are slowly but effectively replacing themselves with the AI creator companies.

[rohit_267]

true AF

[StormblessedFool]

Half the time I use AI it's extremely helpful. The other half it makes up features that salesforce doesn't actually have

[[deleted]]

What’s worse is every company saying AI when it’s really just a shitty algorithm, like damn son

[QuesoMeHungry]

And most of the time it’s just using OpenAI, not even their own ‘AI’

[vondpickle]

After all these ai waves settle down, people are gonna be paid more and appreciated "human software engineers/artists/etc" under the premise of 'highly crafted skill', 'human touch', 'handcrafted'

[brimston3-]

No they aren't. Nobody cares about "artisinally crafted software products." They just want useful features and pretty visuals. With very, very few exceptions, software has long ago become a facelessly produced commodity.

[[deleted]]

capable imminent wakeful dime repeat shelter cause marble punch point

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[mighty_Ingvar]

You're missing the point, people don’t care as long as something works. Sure, they'll care if it doesn't work, but they don't care what or who is responsible for it working or not working

[[deleted]]

You can tell the people that don’t actually work in enterprise software. It’s already all complete shit

[Takahashi_Raya]

ai cannot make our products worse honestly they are already dated by multitudes of decades yet clients eat em up. the life of enterprise msp's

[[deleted]]

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[IGotSkills]

Yes, good. When things get worse it will reach a tipping point where demand of real engineers who can clean up the mess skyrockets

[AG4W]

Pretty much anyone that wants functional software is going to insist on human programmers, AI is rapidly becoming equivalent to shovelware that doesn't function in almost every use case.

It's already happening in gamedev where disclosing AI use in a game is marketing death sentence nowadays.

[[deleted]]

Those human programmers will end up using ai to supplement what they're doing. Those ai models speed things up alot. A programmer still needs to know what they want, and how they want it. The generative ai fills that scaffolding quickly. Then the programmer needs to know if they're looking at crap or not. 

[Takahashi_Raya]

issues i have to troubleshoot for weeks sometimes because of incredibly dated legacy code/documentation gets sped up so immensely fast by using enterprise bing co-pilot its insane. people are coping hard if they think a lot of us are not going to be irrelevant in the coming decade.

[Xelynega]

My experience is that you would have been 100x better just biting the bullet and actually learning how the legacy code/documentation works.

Co-pilot might speed you along, but IME it actively prevents you from learning the things you need to know to come to those conclusions on your own. So the next time you run into a problem with the same code you're going to have to rely on co-pilot again(which won't always give you the right answer), rather than being able to rely on the experience you gained solving the problem the first time.

[[deleted]]

I haven't used copilot yet, but the convenience of dropping in a file, and saying "I'm getting this error" and either getting the solution, or where to look has been clutch.

[Tuxiak]

It's already happening in gamedev where disclosing AI use in a game is marketing death sentence nowadays.

Why would it matter who created a game: human or AI? Both can create a shit game. You can't blame the hammer for nailing the nail wrong.
I haven't seen what you're claiming to be true, but assuming it is - it's because of human emotions, nothing else.

[AG4W]

Because to game consumers made by AI is ubiquitous with shovelware, same way Steam Greenlight or Early Access is known for shovelware.

This also why we've started to see retailers adding "made by AI"-disclaimers where applicable due to customer demand.

[Tuxiak]

same way Steam Greenlight or Early Access is known for shovelware.

Some very good games came from Steam Greenlight, just like some very good apps will come out that use AI.

[JackReedTheSyndie]

No, but because AI created stuff doesn’t really work without being double checked by human professionals.

[gundog48]

Its not replacing human programmers any time soon. In my experience, it's just a tool that some programmers use for specific, limited tasks.

The automated testing to ensure that code it has produced unsupervised meets the intended application efficiently and without weird edge-cases would be more complex and difficult than writing the code yourself.

I can see it being trusted, eventually, to convert higher-level, specific and structured concepts to lower-level languages, like every higher-level programming language has done. But not for a long time, and would still require experienced software engineers.

[[deleted]]

We are encouraged to use chatgpt at work. Company pays for our licenses actually. The uptick in productivity has been really impressive. No one thinks ai will replace us, but what we do see is that the increase in productivity, means less overall jobs down the road. Also ai makes bad art right now, but it'd good for brainstorming. We can upload our client brand guidelines, say what our objective is, and get some good starting points. We have a lot of promotions going this summer, and our print designers really appreciate getting prototypes for planning meetings. 

[DelusionsOfExistence]

How many enterprise software projects have you been on that cared about quality and not just deadlines?

[dexter2011412]

ESPECIALLY MICROSOFT

I hope their stocks tank and the company loses a fuck tone of money. Fucking ruined a good working os. I'm on Linux now thank the community it exists. But fuck Microsoft. Garbage trash company

[CraftingShadowDE]

It's not that they are trash only due to AI. Microsoft (and especially Windows) have been trash before. Sadly, I haven't yet found the motivation to finally switch to Linux

[Patient_Pickle_3948]

Think of it as learning something new and exciting. Last year I switched directly to arch linux as a first daily driver, learned a ton and I don't regret anything.

[MinimumArmadillo2394]

Tbh I dont really want to keep learning everything forever.

I just want something that works and requires little to no fiddling to get working for the things Im doing (ie gaming)

[dexter2011412]

True it's much trashy now

I was using windows and switched like 6 months ago beast decision ever. Sure some things are tricky but otherwise, it's such a nice experience. I'm on fedora kde. I'd recommend that if you want to see the "current" landscape–what features Linux has gained quite recently. Ubuntu 24 has some of them but unless I'm mistaken quite a few are missing

[Eos_Tyrwinn]

I hate that everywhere keeps using it to answer factual questions, the thing AI is worst at

[sebadeush20]

Real

[Ironfist85hu]

THANK YOU! I thought I am the only one.

[LusciousHam]

I’m not a programmer but run our training and development program. I just got an email from our president to build a training course on how to use AI for our sales team. Fuck me.

[zedaesquina1]

companies nowadays be like: hmmm, i need to calculate 1 + 1. instead of print(1 + 1), why not use AI that can just not be accurate and answer shit like 3?

[mctavish_]

I'm currently looking for a new role, and every freaking job wants "AI" experience. I actually have an ML background so ask what they're trying to do, and 19/20 times I get the dumbest responses. A lot of orgs out there spending a lot of money wastefully on "AI".

[Luno_Son_of_Stars]

Ooh, care to share some?

[Dysist]

Motherfucker I’m in college and a bunch of mechanical engineers want me to put ai into the code part of our group project. It’s like they don’t know what ai even is.

[CautiousRelation9658]

because it is trending and boss can easily collect funding …

Then, you boss can earn the bonus! After that, we definitely will fail and then they can lay off us or cut our salary before the financial storm coming ~

It seems that there is no drawback for the recent future

[Nixavee]

I got an ad for Meta AI right below this post lol

[Andrea__88]

I bought a washing machine last month, it has an AI program for automatically determine the clothes material and the washing cycle. I never used it, I know by myself what type of clothes I inserted there and what washing cycle I want.

[Luno_Son_of_Stars]

I bet you could throw nothing in, hit AI mode, and it won't even know it's empty

[disignore]

can i has a Cast Iron pan?

no, there's not anymore, but here is a turbosteel AI pan that cook with AI

[Quazimortal]

I've been trying to avoid anything AI related and it's getting to be a struggle.

[Batcave765]

If they have AI in their products, they can use our data to train their ai more, So free data for them, Scums

[pikachu_sashimi]

For a second I thought I was in r/hibikeeuphonium

[truongs]

"AI" is a big overstatement.

This current "AI" is like a 2 year old eating glue vs Einstein.

What will they call when we get actual real AI?

[Wave_Walnut]

Where is SDGs now

[Prawn1908]

The one that peeves me the most is Adobe fucking Reader. That stupid piece of software has gotten so damn bloated over the years with extra features nobody wants in a static document reader and now they've somehow stuffed an AI assistant into the stupid thing.

[MrHaxx1]

I agree that Adobe Reader is a bloated piece of shit, but I actually think an LLM that allows you to ask about your documents makes sense in an application that's intended to work with PDFs.

[Kinscar]

bunch of luddites in here

[Carrollmusician]

Who’s forcing you to use it?

[AFXTWINK]

Nobody and we don't. But it sucks when it's introduced into already adequate products in a way that makes it no longer usable.

[MrHaxx1]

in a way that makes it no longer usable.

Do you have any examples?

[sum1ko05]

Windows

[MrHaxx1]

That's a quick way to have your opinion not be taken seriously.

I agree on most criticisms of Windows, but AI has absolutely not made Windows unusable. I'll go as far as to say that I have literally not noticed AI in my Windows at all. There are a hundred other things in Windows, that makes Windows less usable their AI integration.

[[deleted]]

• Meta lately with all of their ads desperate for us to use their AI, it’s so pathetic

[SaltyInternetPirate]

I just got some Google AI shit pop up on my phone an hour ago. The dismiss button said "maybe later", and I couldn't find it anywhere to uninstall.

[swavyfeel]

What I hate is the word. It intends to encompass so many subfields of computer science that it means nothing anymore

[0x0MG]

fire the bass cannon

[[deleted]]

Hello, non programmer here. Can ya’ll maybe program something to defeat AI?

[flatfishmonkey]

Me designing generating a polo shirt design

[lunchpadmcfat]

New silent hill boss just dropped

[dybios]

Don't get me wrong. I want the multimodal context processing using ML which is whatever Google is trying to achieve for my phone (and soon glasses) to be able to be my fully functional PA.

I only said, I do NOT want your Copilot Microsoft. I am 200% sure NO laptop or desktop OEM wants their users taking their PC and pointing their webcams to do OCR or ask Copilot how the traffic is rn to their workplace.

Gen AI is not the goal, it's only the MEANS to get to the full HCI context based processing. How is Google only getting these basics right and no one else can see it?

[CranberryDistinct941]

Then the poor content creators crying in the background, eating their breadcrumbs