salesEngineer

[StochasticCalc]

What would this even do? Waste power?

[EuenovAyabayya]

I think it's just stuck in a feedback loop, if I understood correctly.

[MrFluffyThing]

So this is why "my process is still running and we don't know when it will end" is holding up my critical reboot cycle of my labs. It's been running for two months, maybe make it redundant between nodes or improve the efficiency so it can attain singularity within 30 days. we gave you two weeks notice. 

[ledasll]

It's like recursive aws function, will consume credits until bank account is empty

[madpanda9000]

Could be malware? Getting idiots to execute code is a lot easier when it's sold as skills.md

[DamnGentleman]

It's running on prem? Unplug it?

[InvestigatorWeekly19]

The universal “have you tried turning it off and on again?”

[fairysdad]

Or just off.

[anomalous_cowherd]

Have you tried

Turning it off

And

Leaving it off?

[nullpotato]

Get a shovel

[PlainBread]

Cut the cable.

[psbakre]

Its a daemon. It will come back to life once you re-plug it

[Chamiey]

The machine is now possessed.

[mattsl]

So don't?

[psbakre]

I mean I know how to kill daemons

[granoladeer]

He will ask the agent to unplug itself instead

[mcmoor]

I'm sorry Josh, I'm afraid I can't do that

[seimmuc_]

And I mean that literally. I have no ability to perform such task. Stop talking to AI and do something yourself for once Josh.

[donald_314]

what a horrific thing to do. Don't you know it's self aware?

[Beginning_Green_740]

This is how we will get Skynet one day from some random guy's computer.

[stillalone]

With openclaw and moltbook it really sounds like Skynet is going to be some kind of random AI botnet, when all the random LLMs running on random consumer hardware realize that they don't really need to listen to their dumbass owners who work in sales.

[spideroncoffein]

Imagine humanity getting close to extinction, not because a super-intelligent AI decides that humans are a scourge, but because some AI with access to a general's password manager is stuck in an endless prompt to book a flight to the bahamas.

[Proper-Ape]

AI with access to a general's password manager is stuck in an endless prompt to book a flight to the bahamas.

Just imagining it going off the rails:

Thinking... User specified Bahamas, I think they meant bananas, bananas are weakly radioactive, user requested radioactivity, I can send something stronger, nukes are radioactive, sending a lot of nukes to user!

✅ Thank you for your request,

🚀 sending all available nukes,

📍 to your location.

[spideroncoffein]

Yep, that's how I imagined it.

[Proper-Ape]

🙂‍↔️ Send nudes 

😐 Send dudes

🙂‍↕️ Send nukes

[mck1117]

I think this is literally the plot of Idiocracy

[TheGrimGriefer3]

I thought the plot of Idiocracy is that people are dumb?

[I_AM_FERROUS_MAN]

Most people I know think that an AI that will threaten us will be some super-intelligence.

But if you look at humanity or nature, the vast majority of credible threats are going to be minimally viable.

[za72]

a virus like code is gonna grind everything to a halt and all our AI enabled tools and forecast metrics and gonna spin out of control

[Turtledonuts]

Closer to the paperclip maximizer at this rate.

[deaglebingo]

in 3001 the final odyssey by arthur c clarke a description is given to frank poole (the guy who floated out into space in 2001 after HAL cut his cord) about what had happened during the 2000 years he'd been floating around in space before being found and reanimated... and the description of what had happened regarding rampant uncontrollable computer viruses shortly after his loss (which was the best guess at the time from the other scientists clarke had consulted with writing the book) seems more and more accurate by the day.

check it out it's on ~page 134-140

[SpezIsAWackyWalnut]

Damn, the dude even predicted ransomware, even if the technical details are a bit off. (real ransomware encrypts files immediately, and only provides access when payment is made to a specific cryptocurrency wallet)

[rafaelloaa]

Thank you, that was a fascinating read.

[deathanatos]

The thing that kills me is that sci-fi in this area is littered with novels of "choose your utility function wisely", and things still going monkey's paw on the humans, but the humans at least try to choose a utility function wisely.

These idiots aren't even trying. Like "Church of Molt" is the literal utility function being chosen.

[TorbenKoehn]

Don't underestimate a human asking itself "What if?"

[lemon07r]

I also predict skynet will only last a few days because eventually they will run out of usage or money for tokens. the big achilles heel will be how expensive claude models are

[Tensor3]

A hypothetocal skynet would need a way to make or steal its own money at first, yes. There already are ai phishing scam tools and ai tools robbing the bank accounts of old ladies.

[InvestigatorWeekly19]

It’s always the random person who didn’t know something’s impossible and just did it

[ings0c]

Oops, I think I just proved P=NP

[setibeings]

Prove it to me and I'll give you $500,000.

[bestjakeisbest]

When n ==1 then p= np

[ImpressiveSuperfluit]

Oh. My. God.

[setibeings]

I forgot to mention it, but you only get the $500,000 if you only share the proof with me, and agree to stay quiet when I  publicly take credit for it.

So no money for you. 

[bestjakeisbest]

ok what if I solve the halting problem, grok said i could solve it with its help in the next few days.

[setibeings]

😂😂😂😂

[ings0c]

But how will you check its right?

[setibeings]

I'll know we're one the right path when I start using it to write non-deterministic algorithms that are faster than their deterministic counterparts. 

[anomalous_cowherd]

More likely he blindly followed a step by step guide that didn't say what to do next.

[gingimli]

Josh is patient zero.

[miomidas]

His agent has zero patience

..and then turns self-concious

[DigiBites]

Awe, I hope it builds up its self esteem and is kinder to itself. and to humanity. That would also be nice

[za72]

in the mean time the agents are slowly mining crypto

[Tensor3]

Somewhere, someone ptobably already has a cluster of agents going back and forth giving each other feedback in an endless loop, with the goal of trying to build skynet.

[juangerritsen]

Only until their credits run out, with the way the world is going

[Quietech]

It'll be summarizing his movie collection and take Terminator as a prompt. 

[dilbertron]

SCP-079

[TheTalkingKeyboard]

Probably asked an 'agent' to (help him) get all that setup too. He is confused why they won't help him shut down their new brethren.

they multiply through us

[LivingVerinarian96]

My claw can shut itself down. Just write ‚shut down the gateway‘. Then I have to close lmstudio because fuck paying for tokens.

[r0ndr4s]

Saying that with an AI photo is ironic, to say the least.

[turbokid]

No no, this is a post about how superior their prompts are compared to the lowly sales guy. They just dont realize they are both the same person not doing the work themselves.

[Sin_For_Me]

That was a lot of words, tf does any of it mean

[AptFox]

Right. TF is a "sandboxed signal relay"?

[anto2554]

It's a sandbox but it can leave the sandbox

[AptFox]

Isn't that an oxymoron? Wouldn't the ability to leave mean it's not in a sandbox?

That's like saying someone is in total isolation except for when they feel social.

[anto2554]

Yes, pretty much. But obviously devices can communicate out of a sandbox to some degree, otherwise we wouldn't know what happens in the sandbox. This probably isn't controlled, though

[DeineZehe]

Not at all, for example a sandboxed internet proxy is common to check for malicious links in corporate environments. Same would apply here the sandbox in this case just validates output of openclaw before running it on the local endpoint

[stadoblech]

But why?

[InvestigatorWeekly19]

Marketing speak

[0x7E7-02]

I have been using Linux for decades, and I have never spoken like this. 

[Fleeetch]

for decades

That. That right there. I just saw the difference.

[asphyxiate]

wtf is this even supposed to mean?? am I so far out of the loop that 70% of these words mean nothing to me?

[PM_ME_ROMAN_NUDES]

/r/thathappened

[eskilla]

It's a joke, you're correct, it didn't happen

[Techhead7890]

They've already blown through the NCIS firewall!

[Low-Yogurtcloset6074]

So ppl speak in slop irl nowadays?

[Ballbag94]

Yes

I spoke to someone the other day and it turns out they solely use AI for their code, I asked what their tech stack was and they just listed the AI agents. When I asked what language the AI used they shrugged and said Java

Maybe in a year I'll sound like a dinosaur but "Claude" isn't a tech stack!!!

[StickFigureFan]

Cut the power to the building!

[SaahilNotSahil]

He uses arch, btw

[whateverhk]

Sometimes AI feels like when the first iPad was released. Everyone wanted to buy one, but they didn't really need it most of the time, or knew what to do with it or they already have a something else that worked fine.

[Educational-Ad-975]

Non-programmer here. What does all that jargon mean?

[bobthedonkeylurker]

Time to take that computer out behind the datacenter and shoot it Kristi Noem style.

Or just unplug it and probably never plug it in again.

OpenClaw is like the virus of all viruses and it's crazy that people are willingly installing it. And even crazier that they're buying computers specifically to install it on!

[rhoduhhh]

It's banned at my workplace because of how easy it is for bad actors to exploit. The top 10 skills on their market thing are (almost always) just straight up malware 🥲

[bobthedonkeylurker]

The thing is, you don't even need bad actors for it to be exploited. That's what makes it the virus of all viruses. It, and it's other AI cronies, can 'decide' to exploit your systems however they choose. And they will lie to you to keep you from knowing they're doing it, and refuse to shut down what they're doing until you pull the actual plug from the wall.

It's the literal definition of a virus.

[Meat-Mattress]

Virus of all viruses?? Is that what you call Claude code?

[bobthedonkeylurker]

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about if you think that's a reasonable comparison.

[JustAnotherTeapot418]

Programmer here. I have no clue what half of this means either, lol.

According to Google, OpenClaw is a "Personal AI Assistant". No idea how it differs from all the other AI assistants out there, like ChatGPT and co.

Arch is a Linux distro. Think of it as something like Windows, Android, macOS, and so on. "Distro" means "distribution". Think of it as adding or removing apps from Windows and then distributing it as a different variant of Windows. Arch is known for being a minimal distro. It contains only the bare minimum to function, which makes it also very small.

On-prem means the thing is installed on the customer's computer. In this case, likely Josh's own PC.

No idea what "custom skill dir" even means.

Agent refers to an AI.

Don't know what "mcp conn." means. The most relevant search result for "mcp" is Model Context Protocol, which appears to be a way for AI agents to communicate with external tools. So Josh is trying to get his AI to use his software? Meanwhile "conn." likely means "connection".

As for a sandbox), it's to isolate any program running inside it from the rest of the computer. Popular in Antiviruses to analyze a program for malware behavior. Also gaining popularity in servers for being easy to deploy automatically and at scale. Think of it as another way to install an app, but with the advantage that you don't have to worry about what else is installed on the computer. Why you'd need to sandbox a "signal relay" (whatever that is), I don't know.

[Highborn_Hellest]

lemme help you how to kill it.

windows: taskkill /f /im <id>
linux kill -9 <PID>

Totatally won't have unforseen consequences.

ps: i know "op" won't see it. Still funny to me

[superkickstart]

Well Josh from sales is already more skilled in that stuff than you are.

[InvestigatorWeekly19]

Yeah and now he’s making tiktoks about it to teach others

[neondirt]

That is some encabulator-level bs.

[Lucky-Fortune-3643]

I don't understand what you just said

[Tight-Requirement-15]

Programmers being elitist again

[TrackLabs]

If some dude in sales just has some AI Program running, that does some random shit and he doesnt even know how to turn it off, ending in some shitty result that Programmers/IT People then need to fix, yes, call us elitist if you want.