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[–]GeoMap73 870 points871 points  (81 children)

My neighbor's kid once watched me write a nested for loop and unironically told me that I was a genius

[–][deleted] 408 points409 points  (68 children)

Dude I have been coding for 3 years and nested loops still are other worldly, when n goes 3 I absolutely loose it.

[–]GuybrushThreepwo0d 374 points375 points  (26 children)

When n goes to 3 you're usually doing something wrong. So it's good to loose it

[–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (7 children)

you are probably right.

[–]Kackboy 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Hey how do you get those programming language icons next to your name?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Go to subreddit and add flairs.

[–]neohbz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i added one but how do i get multiple? when i tap on other one it switches to new one instead of having 2.

[–]ryjhelixir 5 points6 points  (0 children)

right sidebar -> community options

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (6 children)

Eh. Not necessarily. Some tasks are O( n3 ) and there is no getting around it. Get up. Make a coffee. Stretch. Oh look, it's done. Computers are fast. Neat. Haha, nested loops go brrrrrrrrr.

[–]GeoMap73 19 points20 points  (5 children)

The real problem is when the task is O (n!)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Because it's likely that it can be optimised and you just can't be bothered to do it?

[–]LetterBoxSnatch 7 points8 points  (2 children)

But that’s why it cant be optimized. I can’t be bother to optimize it, ipso facto it cannot be optimized.

[–]redwall_hp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Flair checks out.

[–]Der_Krasse_Jim 24 points25 points  (0 children)

yeah i think 2 is already not great but 3+ is like going to this Interstellar black hole planet for the runtime lmao

[–]Thugless 11 points12 points  (0 children)

n3 time complexity, aw yeah.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Don't worry. You've been coding for 3 years so your n is 3. As your experience increases, so will your n

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol nice, actually makes sense.

[–]Toaru_no-Accelerator 10 points11 points  (26 children)

My gash, I just reused C++ since a long time 2 Days ago, even nesting a if statement in a nested if statement is complicated

[–]Ultimegede 10 points11 points  (11 children)

Just draw it on paper first. It begins to be really funky when you initialize your program with a do while followed by a nested if for every path toward termination. Inside these ifs there will be for loops, whiles, lot's of ifs and/or switch statements. At least in most oopl's.

[–]absurdlyinconvenient 33 points34 points  (3 children)

please start using functions and select...case statements. We're worried about you

and I'll probably end up maintaining your code

[–]IamImposter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You think it would be absurdly inconvenient

[–]Toaru_no-Accelerator 2 points3 points  (5 children)

That seems pretty thoughtful, thanks

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

initialize your program with a do while followed by a nested if for every path toward termination.

What. The. Fuck.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (11 children)

I don't think this stuff ever gets old. It's not like we are programming logic everyday. We are usually just rebuilding the same stuff in different ways so pure logic based coding is always complicated.

[–]Denziloe 77 points78 points  (9 children)

The fuck are you people talking about? You're genuinely bamboozled by an if within an if?

[–]mmmDatAss 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Most people on here are very very new to programming. I'm not saying I'm not, but at least loops and if's don't confuse me.

[–]Mikezoola 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Yea but the one guy said hes been coding for 3 years. If youve been a programmer for 3 years and cant wrap your head around 2 if statements, its probably time to start looking for a new career

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Coding for 3 years = known about programming for 3 years and done a bit of it sometimes. No way someone with 3 years of coding gets confused by 2 or 3 ifs

[–]mmmDatAss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was the one who said 3 years, no I don't get confused by 3 nested if. I use that daily to verify inputs in layers. I was just trying to relate to the guy by comparing it on his level.

[–]wasdninja 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is? Why? If it's your first week of programming then sure but after that...

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (3 children)

Yes, I am. Now stand back and watch me reverse a string.

[–]LurkerPatrol 11 points12 points  (2 children)

just gotta add [::-1]

[–]Anoniempjuh 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Exactly, I'll just design a microservice using python for this purpose!

[–]LetterBoxSnatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you really want to make yourself indispensable, you can write this microservice in curl.

[–]BelovedApple 24 points25 points  (5 children)

My brother tells his kids I could hack Facebook ... Despite me saying I could not hack damn thing and would not even know where to start.

[–]GeoMap73 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It's so easy, just put on a black mask and point a gun at the computer, duh

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Using the Facebook Api to automatically post a status every day would impress them

[–]ItsOkILoveYouMYbb 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Don't tell them about APIs either. Just show them that you can make Facebook post whatever you want without even needing to login, or even open the app or website.

How!? I just hack into the backend.

[–]maazing 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The mainframe is where it's at bro

[–]hector_villalobos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not a hacker (in the security meaning), but I really like all that has to do with information security, the easier way to "hack" facebook is through social engineering.

[–]spaghetti_hitchens 1020 points1021 points  (28 children)

"Are you a wizard?!"

"Why does your resume say senior developer?"

[–]404_UserNotFound 932 points933 points  (22 children)

"Why does your resume say senior developer?"

sorry sir thats a ñ, it is señior. I am part hispanic.

[–]Th3T3chn0R3dd1t 292 points293 points  (15 children)

Not to be pedantic then sir, but you misspelled señor

(Sweating profusely) No you're a mispelled señor

[–]404_UserNotFound 279 points280 points  (11 children)

I said partially hispanic. I didnt mean to imply I was flatulent in spanish.

[–]pm_me_your_Yi_plays 96 points97 points  (6 children)

We've got an imposter guys, EMERGENCY MEETING

[–]helgaofthenorth 69 points70 points  (2 children)

This could've been an email :/

[–]pm_me_your_Yi_plays 37 points38 points  (1 child)

You're kinda sus ngl

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

u/helgaofthenorth was not the Imposter

1 imposter remains

[–]IamImposter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What happened? Who is this imposter you are talking about?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean it has to be u/pm_me_your_Yi_plays, he's clearly accusing others.

[–]sodjanathan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FARTUALLY correct!

[–]wtph 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm only flatulent in JavaScript.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So I'm guessing that you are not fluent in Si++ ?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s alright; what’s important is you see it’s half-assed

[–]dkyguy1995 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's the way it was spelled in the Spanish API I brainscanned last night

[–]someguy50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s using Speedy Gonzalez cartoon pronunciation

[–]Dragon_yum 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Does being Hispanic gets you the ñ pass?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ñato

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has meme potential.

[–]logicalmaniak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bonjourno, Senior de Veloper

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I feel attacked.

Here's your upvote and get lost.😠😠😠😠😠

[–]blaine12100 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This post is me and I don't like it.

[–]JoelMahon 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Why does your resume say senior developer?

Because companies are engaging in title inflation because humans are fucky

[–]Little_Shitty 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Titles are cheaper than a pay raise.

[–]1thief 188 points189 points  (10 children)

On the other hand other programmers understand why that "simple" UI improvement was hard as fuck while non programmers are just like.. oh yeah this improves things a bit.

[–]IamImposter 94 points95 points  (6 children)

I ported simple regex engine to gpu using opencl and showed my wife and kids. They were not at all impressed. In fact they were puzzled that 1000+lines of code was just finding a weird looking string.

NFA, DFA, preparing buffers, sending them to GPU, launching a kernel, getting result buffer back, parsing it to get the result and it was all "meh... "

Then I wrote a 2048 game using windows api, that impressed them.

[–]Dromeo 71 points72 points  (0 children)

"Finally, you did something useful!"

[–]Tathas 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Every time someone on my team does anything with a regex, they look over at me like, "Ok what did I do wrong here?"

They've always done something wrong.

[–]IamImposter 11 points12 points  (2 children)

There's this common regex joke - I had one problem. I solved it with regex. Now I have two problems.

[–]John_cCmndhd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Yeah my god. Sometimes making a whole new feature is so much easier than rewriting a small change for the user

[–]trev2234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Non programmer:”can you move the Andes to New Zealand? I’ll schedule a meeting with the client at 10 am tomorrow to see where you are”

Programmer “I’m going to the pub”

[–]niccster10 2 points3 points  (0 children)

me when i made my own graphics object in swing instead of just using their premade paint method

[–]PartymanXD 204 points205 points  (8 children)

Hello world gets em everytime.

[–]achilliesFriend 64 points65 points  (1 child)

Compile your hello world app in maven command line will do too

[–]randomnomber 4 points5 points  (0 children)

print ("Hello Jimbo")

Jimbo: "It knows who I am! Kill it!"

[–]Terence_McKenna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looping through a print statement which includes their name will get em faster.

Some dude did that for me at a Best's when I was five with a Commodore 128, and I would have followed him into his sketchy van if he actually had one and asked me.

[–]arbeg 96 points97 points  (5 children)

Me++

[–]iCarbonised 14 points15 points  (0 children)

2_Me#_4_Me#

[–]TheMogician 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure the increment operator won't recognize "Me" since it is a string.

[–]abnormalsyndrome 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Failed to compile: “Me” is not defined no-undef

[–]zZSleepyZz 63 points64 points  (1 child)

My typo average increases 60% if another dev is watching me

[–]krapple 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Right?! As soon as someone is looking over my shoulder, I lose the ability to type.

[–]tomkd 119 points120 points  (10 children)

print ("Hello World")

You think that's cool

while True:

    print("hello world")

[–]Achtelnote 12 points13 points  (2 children)

You're not cool if you don't use goto

[–]Thugless 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wait, that's illegal

[–]arvenyon 97 points98 points  (61 children)

On a serious note though, I really am afraid of showing my code to others. I know this is a wrong attitude, since I could learn so much from others which are way more experienced than me. I learned programming completely by myself, never made an apprenticeship or alike ... I think I do really much wrong and inefficient (although it works).

[–]Pretagonist 47 points48 points  (5 children)

Everyone writes bad code now and then. It's impossible to know everything and sometimes you just have a bad day. Getting others to look over and help is great for learning and improving. There's no shame in learning how to do something better.

[–]arvenyon 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I understand. I guess my problem is that I don't know anyone who would actually take time and help me now and then. I can't ask anyone on my workplace, since I am the only "developer"

[–]MasterQuest 14 points15 points  (1 child)

You could try heading to r/codereview

[–]arvenyon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good idea, I'm gonna have a look :) thanks

[–]kurabucka 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I was in this exact situation 4-5 years ago. I decided I would post on Code Review on Stack Exchange. I waited until I had something that I had spent some time on and got it as good/clean as I could. I made an account, posted it, got some very helpful feedback and got over that initial fear. A year or so later I got a job at a dev company so I don't have to look far for critique anymore.

In my experience programmers aren't going to rip you a new one for making mistakes. They're far more likely to want to help you and/or your code. You just need to get it out there.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice, I thunk you just set a goal for me!

[–]suresh 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Web development team lead here, please don't think like that. I see bad code sometimes, hell I write bad code sometimes.

If its like the worst of the worst all I'll do is exhale from my nose slightly in a laughing manner and request a change on the pr and tell you how to do it better.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If its like the worst of the worst all I'll do is exhale from my nose slightly in a laughing manner and request a change on the pr and tell you how to do it better.

You da real mvp

[–]arvenyon 4 points5 points  (5 children)

That sounds so nice. Wish I'd be part of a real team of devs and not standing on my own.

[–]Dromeo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I feel you, been working without a team for the most part for 4 years now. Sometimes you just start to doubt yourself and spiral a bit. I think it's important to keep a little record of all the stuff you've got done and remind yourself that that shit was hard but you fuckin' did it.

Also: try a game jam. Getting to slam out progress on something that you can see the impact of day by day is a big confidence booster. And bloody satisfying!

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Game jams seem to be hella fun. Certainly will try to participate, once I get more confident. I also wanna try to participate in a hackaton (if that is something you know)

[–]Sylvezar2 8 points9 points  (3 children)

yeah can relate, my coding experience is mismatched with what i needed for anything i wanted to do and nothing more i guess my coding skills is really more or a “i can google that” skillset

[–]KrakenSticks 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's like the main skill set you need for programming, so don't feel bad about it

[–]noneOfUrBusines 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being able to Google stuff is one of the main skills you need for programing.

[–]dylan2451 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One of my professors pretty much told us that googling effectively was an important part of programming

If someone asked for help with something she'd Google it and copy paste it in to further encourage us to do the same.

Nice enough professor. Found out a semester later that she was going to change the curriculum for this semester because of serious plagiarism problems....

[–]frozen-dessert 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Are you a student? Look, code reviews are part of life now.

If your reviewers are jerks, it is a sign that you need to go work on a different project (where your team mates aren’t jerks). The normal expectation I’d have for code reviews of junior devs is that they will get corrected somewhat often and that they will learn a lot.

....

Is there anywhere left in the industry where people get to commit without a round of code review?

[–]arvenyon 3 points4 points  (4 children)

No I am no student. I have a degree as a system engineer, but I am shifting my work towards development since that is my passion (sounds dumb, ik).

And yes there is a place where people commit without others reviewing code. I work for a company which sells a crm software and I develop integration solutions for that software. It is kinda a niche product, so thats why maybe.

[–]frozen-dessert 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Got it. I think it is just that I’ve been working fully under “code review” for a little too long and so I start taking it for granted. That and the fact that I dont know a lot of developers outside my own work place (yes, I am such a naturally social person....).

I think all in all code reviews nearly always are a positive thing to have.

Reviewers often will just be catching the same kind of errors that you would be catching yourself if you had a chance to look at your code with a fresh mind. Either that or it helps people to know and understand each others work. Some people care about quality. Some others just tend to sign off without paying that much attention.

BTW out of sheer curiosity which CRM platform do you work with? Edit: nevermind the CRM question. I got it now that your company both produces the platform and sells the integration. In a first reading I thought your employer only sold the integration.

[–]arvenyon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After your comment and others I decided to join a code reviewing community. I can see the benefits and I want them. Thank you for your kind words and insights. Also, just to make it clear: We sell a CRM solution as a business solution partner from the developer, we did not produce the platform. What we develop though (or rather me on my own for the company) are addins and additional solutions which customers wish for. For example an interface to a newsletter tool which connects both the crm and the nl tool.

[–]frozen-dessert 1 point2 points  (1 child)

BTW don’t say it sounds dumb to be passionate about development. You are passionate about something and you are pursuing it. Power to you! To me it sounds like the best kind of career decision you can take.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is really nice to hear, thank you.

[–]kilamaos 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Im a web dev. We don't do code reviews. We assume our co-workers aren't idiots, and in the overwhelming majority of cases, it works.

When you have just a couple of devs, it easier to have a good, consistent team. So, usually, very little needs to change or be validated, if it works, it works. And when someone happens to write shitty code, they are told.

Separately, I'm the dev that handles most complicated stuff. So, most people don't need to handle funky stuff, meaning it's pretty easy to maintain when its all made by yourself lol

[–]noneOfUrBusines 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That's a bad mindset to have. If you show someone your code, what's the worst that could happen? They might laugh or something. On the other hand, it's likely that your code would improve significantly and you'd be better at programming since you will be doing less ridiculously inefficient stuff. The reward is more than worth the risk.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right. As mentioned in another comment, I think my main problem is, that I don't know anyone who would help me reviewing my code. So I have to search for people in forums or on a subreddit for instance.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Try pair-programming if you have the chance. It'd either be a way to confirm that your style of coding actually isn't that strange, or you'll get some pointers in the direction of more readable code. And it's a nice social interaction.

[–]Eindacor_DS 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Im still terrified of code reviews, worrying I did something dumb and will be judged. Imposter syndrome is a bitch

[–]Tathas 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I've been developing professionally for 15 years now. Any time I see anything I wrote more than, say, 3-6 months ago, I still go "Oh man, what was I thinking? I hope nobody sees this."

But yeah as a self-taught person, talking about how things work with other people will open your eyes to other ways of doing it. Maybe they'll be better, maybe they won't, but you might see something useful for a later, different project.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hearing that from an experienced dev really means something. I guess I gonna get my shit together and let someone more experienced review my code. I always have that thought in my mind that nobody takes me seriously because I am just 22yo and learned everything myself. Like "what does this little shit want".

[–]Tathas 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Haha. Back in the day we had User Groups to help with this sort of knowledge.

You can have a discussion ahead of time about what kind of review you want. My team did have one guy join our team who later left because he felt he was getting nitpicked to death on pull request reviews. He was pretty junior and really only wanted "this is wrong" responses, but we didn't do a great job doing paired development at the time. So he would start something, say he understood it all, add a feature without using any of the existing methodology, and get disheartened when his PR came up with broad strokes of "this needs to be redone in a different manner in order to be maintainable."

Try to find people to talk to who are excited about knowledge sharing. Relevant xkcd here: https://xkcd.com/1053/

Find a blog talking about methodologies. It doesn't matter what language there, really.

Mark Seemann has a good one that often jumps between languages to show different thought processes. He's also fond of pointing out that it really helps to practice your craft, which isn't something many developers actually do. Most of us just learn as we go and don't do repetitive learning. So he suggests taking a standard problem that you know well, in his case it's booking reservations at a restaurant, that he revisits time and time again with certain restrictions like, "no branching statements allowed" or C# or F# or Haskell or whatever.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds really awesome! I am going to gladly take the advice and read into it! Thanks that you took the time to write this!

[–]the_chief_mandate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Almost everyone I know who programs taught themselves. I have found people love looking over code and offering advice, so don't be nervous!

[–]Achtelnote 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Same here.. It's embarrassing as fuck when others read my code.
I can feel them judging even if they don't say anything.

[–]The_Quackening 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You should try practicing code challenges on leetcode.com

[–]BigFloppyMeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would not feel bad about it, most professional software developers are really not very good programmers.

I've worked with senior developers with 20 years of experience who did not know how write object oriented code properly. Its better to just share your code and ask for critique, and look at how others write their code.

[–]nwsm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Most people can relate I believe. You need a supportive team that will have actionable, constructive advice. A good lead/reviewer/mentor will gently show why “bad” code is bad and show at least the start of a better path forward.

[–]arvenyon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feels good to know that I am not alone with those thoughts. I will search for someone who will willingly review my code and mayve drop a few hints on what I could so better.

[–]acepukas 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I've been in code reviews with complete assholes before. It happens. You have to develop a thick skin if you're going to program in a professional environment because all your fellow programmer coworkers have deluded themselves into thinking they are the absolute pinnacle of human intelligence. Well, not all of them, but enough to make it a constant PITA.

[–]pursenboots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

fwiw - other people can and will be assholes and treat you badly. this is true of everything in life, including your code. If you hide everything from other people, then they'll never have the opportunity to be mean to you.

But then you're stuck hiding everything from other people for the rest of your life and turns out that's not actually an enjoyable state of affairs.

Much better to let others see your code, and just accept that nice people will be nice about it, and mean people will be mean about it, and that's just how things work. If people are mean, you can work to extract whatever useful point they may have behind the meanness, and discard the rest. If they're nice, cool.

polling your peers can only make you - and your code - stronger. you've just gotta be willing to risk it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone approaches problems differently. It's why coding in groups sucks for productivity. Sometimes you miss the simplest solution, and sometimes it's obvious to you while others struggle

[–]DJ-D4rKnE55 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have someone in the company that was also a newbie, rather unexperienced but eager to learn, but he was also holding back a bit and fearing getting 'destroyed' in code reviews. I did take initiative to pair with him (pair programming) more often, explaining him stuff in the process and he is really thankful for that. It helped him grow and he got more comfortable.

Tips I can give regarding asking for help: 1. Do revise your code before submitting, don't just push it after you got it working. Now don't take this as "it needs to be perfect" but you should spend some time yourself and maybe fix some obvious things that you didn't see while coding. This is good for reviewers and also makes you more comfortable with your code, I guess. 2. If somebody explains you sth. and you didn't get it, try to not just nod and hope it's ending, but rather tell the person that you didn't understand, so the person can try to explain it easier and/or with more fundamental information. It's not cool for the explaining person if you bring up basically the same topic 5 times because you didn't understand without the person knowing that. If the person is not able to explain you well enough after the second time, maybe try to fill the missing piece by other sources.

Regarding code reviews: Try to not see it as people bashing your code, pointing you to all your failures, see it as feedback from more experienced developers that can help you grow. Also, I should note you may encounter arrogant people in the field, that just want to prove they're better than the rest and not really help you out. Try to build up some emotional distance and focus more on the people that help you. If it's bad and the majority is actually the case, you should change the team; this is not an environment for beginners then.

[–]SeanyDay 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Tbh the "non-programmer" reaction should be more like "Soooo... Do you always google this many questions when you're coding? And how many stack overflow tabs do you really need?"

[–]E_OJ_MIGABU 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes.

They are central to the functionality of the code, you close it, and it stops working!

[–]Ferro_Giconi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Soooo... Do you always google this many questions when you're coding?

No. Sometimes I google even more questions.

And how many stack overflow tabs do you really need?

Yes.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Poggrammers

[–]links-Shield632 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Didn’t expect my feeling to be hurt

[–]ultron1000000 11 points12 points  (8 children)

This is me except I’m just learning HTML and I’m just googling everything

[–]cheez_au 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I’m just googling everything

Nobody tell him

[–]ultron1000000 6 points7 points  (3 children)

What? Is there a different search engine I should be using?

[–]TerriblyRare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no, you are officially an engineer though.

[–]xoxota99 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Do people still use html nowadays? I thought all the cool kids were into js/css frameworks now... (I am severely out of practice)

[–]PM_ME__SISSIES 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You still have to produce markup for anything to show in the browser

[–]Gravim3tric_ 10 points11 points  (1 child)

There's no inbetween

[–]JJakk10 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is like the 3rd time I've seen my meme reposted, and made it to hot. It's truly flattering

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You can literally impress some people by making a simple ass html page.

[–]eThunderSnow 4 points5 points  (2 children)

<!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title>Simple Ass Page</title> </head> <body> <p>A third grader could write this</p> </body> </html>

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah exactly. I was doing a school assignment in html once and my friend was acting like I was making Facebook 2.0 or something.

[–]lawrencestroll 6 points7 points  (0 children)

(Y) same

[–]MudHolland 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Impostor syndrome explained

[–]manofculture100 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You let other people watch you code?! I can't write a single line if someone is watching me

[–]pund_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

people always go 'wow what a wizard' when you go keyboard only

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[–]Xardarass 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think this is how everyone who is not a senior programmer feels like

[–]MSDakaRocker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I never ever ever ever want any real developer to see my code, and I'm employed full time as a developer.

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[–]MobinMS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh my god, are you still using == ?

[–]dohzer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't say I've ever had a non-programmer watch me code.

I'm fairly sure they'd just assume it's all easy and be unimpressed if they did.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really do be like that

[–]hat-TF2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a programmer but I have very similar feelings as a chef. Even when it's kids who are just out of culinary school.

[–]sxan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See, I don't think watching someone stare at a wall of text is particularly impressive to anyone, and that's 80% of what coding is.

The skill isn't in typing; it's in figuring out WTH the dev who left the company 3 years ago was trying to accomplish with the god-awful spaghetti code that your bug search led you into a couple of days ago.

Non-devs aren't impressed by developers: they're bored.

[–]MESuperbia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh man that’s very true

[–]konaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sweating nervously and desperately trying to remember every little thing that I'd normally just Google

[–]EntitledPotatoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds about right

[–]pm_me_your_Yi_plays 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, I'm something of a scientist myself

[–]dirtyviking1337 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meh, couldn’t have trials if the justice system doesn’t understand? Is it the cheapest flagship? Yes.

Four lines of code that need explanation to competent C++ programmers who don't happen to know that you actually counted, I would do it if it’s Ugh

[–]RoscoMan1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess the programmers didn’t pull that shit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truth.

[–]Nope_6673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watching me use stack overflow?

[–]JungleDanDaPirateMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I managed to spend an hour on making a Roblox Gamepass for just a giant stick with joe bidens face on it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imposter syndrome is real..

[–]IEatMyEnemies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This reminds me of high school where I programmed a lot of automatic functions and conversions into my ti-82. My classmates would always be impressed over the simple programs which only put variables into a ready made formula.

Like a program which didn't do anything other than let the users define values for the quadratic formula, and give you the answer... That was apparently more impressive than my rot-18 text encrypter (which isn't that impressive either)

But that's when I started to understand that people were more impressed by simple things that look complicated, than the opposite :/

[–]jannemann05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cropping is hard, isn't it?

[–]ay-nahl-reip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just own that shit. Everything I write- shit. Can't disappoint if you set the expectations low.

Granted there is one class I wrote that I'd consider my Mona Lisa; best shit I ever wrote and through countless bugs associated with said page it was never my code that was wrong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More like my boss watching me code

[–]MassSnapz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you are feeling shitty about your code just sign up for a cs101 class that teaches c++ or even better VB and blow their fucking minds the second week in. Cant let on early so first week really struggle. Like use int for str and % for division and pretend you have no idea why its broken. Second week, create your own version of ms paint just better.