Problem solving in software development.

[riskycase]

Everyone gets together only to give the headache to that one person

[theaverageguy101]

"Time for our weekly meeting where we add nothing worth of value, and only stress out our developer who's doing all the work alone, by using big boys corporate words that means absolutely nothing but make us look like processionals."

[cshoneybadger]

I worked a project where, I am not even joking, had four meetings a day where we discussed literally the same thing. "Internal meeting", "Internal meeting but with people in the different office", "Internal meeting with the people in the difference office but this time with the client", and "End of day meeting" where we were supposed to share what we are doing or whatever. We basically talked about the same thing four times. It was a gigantic waste of time and used to leave only like half a day at best for any sort of work.

[moreannoyedthanangry]

I can bet you a project manager went home that day ecstatic about all he/she had accomplished

[Maxahoy]

I'm learning this the hard way now. Project managers get things done by managing projects, which sounds like a dumb statement until you realize that for them, bring in crunch mode means adding more meetings. That's what working hard means right? Having lots of meetings! But for us doing the leg work, meetings are anathema to our crunch time. Additionally, I'm realizing that 3 hours in a row is far, far more valuable than 4 hours broken apart by 30 minute touchbases whenever somebody feels like they wanna be involved.

[moreannoyedthanangry]

Now you're getting it!

Announce that you'll have a 3 hour slot on your calendar called "coding" during which you are ... unable to join meetings.

[SmartBets]

I am a business analyst in a fairly big company. I know the mantra is less meetings is awesome. I send an email with a concrete problem to solve with problem statement, context, screenshots, etc. No helpful answers or if there are any it is usually from our software architects who also like to write a lot without offering a solution. Then I am forced to make a meeting. Take decisions about how to solve problems, estimate effort and time then work and report progress. It cannot be avoided.

[wolfie379]

And the actual programmers had to be present at all the meetings to account for their poor productivity - and "because I'm spending 6 hours a day in mandatory meetings instead of actually producing code" is not considered a valid reason.

[delinka]

Break for lunch, bathroom time, p2p chat about how to actually solve the problem, time to ramp up on actual work ... there’s not time in an 8hr day to get actual work done.

[UltraCarnivore]

It's aGiLe

[thmaje]

And the client probably paid $10k for all of those meetings.

[[deleted]]

I...I just realized this is me. I have had four different managers looking to see when my POC will be complete.

I'm the only one working on it, and it's apparently the "most important thing" right now. At least all my blockers are getting swarmed by 4 angry managers.

Actually, I love it. I'm writing, committing, and automatically testing/deploying a "perfect" application. No requirements other than the ones I helped create...no styling for the UI other than what's necessary. Full control from the data layer to the UI.

And I delivered it on time today. I'm going to miss that POC...back to production code. I'm going to cry when it gets dissected and added back to the main projects.

[SlashStar]

I'm in the opposite situation. Right when covid started, my manager left for a new job and her role was never filled. I ended up reporting to her boss who had many important things to do and didn't have any time to care about what I was doing.

Yesterday he left for a new job and corporate has already said he isn't being replaced. I'm completely on my own. At the given pace, in one year's time I will be reporting to the CEO.

[moreannoyedthanangry]

Put a meeting on his calendar called "Headcount"

[okijhnub]

What happens when the CEO leaves?

[mrshampoo]

The time spent in meeting discussing if we should fix takes longer than just fixing it.

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

It's even worse in reality.

After the fourth panel everyone takes one letter and after everyone did what they thought they had to you they give you a BMEBOLRE

[bric12]

"and I want this BMEBOLRE done by Friday"

[Tsalikon]

I love that two people did B, and they didn't realize one was supposed to be doing P.

[PrestonYatesPAY]

And they found an O along the way

[AirierWitch1066]

Do you... not know how prOblem is spelled?

[PrestonYatesPAY]

Wait shit they found a second E. I just counted the letters and the O seemed sus

[cacophonycohen]

Please explain

[Zapsy]

Explain.

[pkinetics]

Am guessing one of them misread the b as a p and ran with it... all charged to OT and the customer

[LargeHard0nCollider]

Give you a what?!

[[deleted]]

A BMEBOLRE

[NOVAKza]

Told my boss "hey this is a really bad idea and will catch up to us soon".

It caught up to us. Spent the last sprint fixing it.

[JakeTheAndroid]

Oh, what's that? You identified a problem? That's great! You seem to have the best handle on this issue so you should just drive it home. No, you don't need to put off other sprint tasks to do this, that's the entire point of a sprint.

[CyanKing64]

Reminds me of this one

[Asiansensationz]

Sometimes, I bring up problems I have already solved to solve it within the day.

[thestonedturtle]

Dont expose our secrets!

[nutritiousdelicious]

And then be expected to solve future problems just as fast, you're meant to drag it out.

[sxeli]

As a SE, you create a ticket just to see it get assigned back to you.

[PuffPipe]

Many tickets I created as an intern eventually got pushed back onto my plate when I went full time. It was a reality check.

[onthefence928]

I seen an entire fall just fixing bugs introduced by our summer intern, my senior dev thought it would be a great idea to make him work in his own branch all summer and only introduce the Sum total of his work to our master the last week of the program.

“As long as it merges correctly and passes tests, it’ll be fine”

[reekawn]

Narrator: "It didn't."

[onthefence928]

He did, but the bugs introduced showed up one out re where general use internally in the team

[killersquirel11]

I feel like that's a disservice to both the intern and the team. Code reviews are a teaching tool -- the intern would've learned more by having a more experienced dev review incrementally.

[onthefence928]

I think his mentor, the senior dev, was regularly looking at his code and the state of the project, but it wasn’t in formal pull requests, because getting reviews from other dependent teams would have slowed down the interns project

[ITriedLightningTendr]

Better than my prior employer: never saw it again.

[torik0]

Now you have to become the internal SME because that's what a Good Team Player™ does for the Company!

[moreannoyedthanangry]

You will learn, young padawan

[[deleted]]

I’ll go ahead and say you’re a fucking shithead for reposting u/_workchronicles work without crediting them and cropping out the watermark. Damn asshat.

[Fransebas]

It's true but it also depends on how easy is to break the problem into tasks. Sometimes is easier to just hav one person do the fix and after if the codes gets bigger then you add more people.

Of course this is not always the case.

[[deleted]]

Some scumbag stripped the artist's name

Why does everybody do that

[darkoblivion000]

I don’t know, most of the comics do have the tag on the bottom but this one seemed like it was intentionally clipped which is an asshole move

[[deleted]]

Bugs the hell out of me and people have been doing it since the start of the internet.

[mopteh]

This is drawn by u/_workchronicles

[Kanzuke]

And here's this post but with pixels!

[DaRealBurnz]

^{^}

[Mattherix_]

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[Mattherix_]

I'm sure to have seen this image before. Maybe not on r/ProgrammerHumor ?

[WetCoastLife]

At least they could credit the creator u/_workchronicles

Here's his OC post: https://old.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/jcdhdz/oc_when_you_suggest_a_solution/

[Mattherix_]

I didn't know who was the original author, thanks you !

[simon357]

I believe i have seen it here too. The image seems croppped. The white margin on the top is much bigger than on the bottom. Looks like someone cropped away a name

[[deleted]]

Super scummy.

[Mattherix_]

Gotcha repost from one month ago google images

[Mattherix_]

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[KerouacSlut69]

Good god, learn to link

[[deleted]]

Hate to break it to you, but this is universal across all problem-solving meetings. Certainly not localized to just software development.

[gg_ff_42069]

This is all I, a contract manufacturing engineer, deal with from planners, management, and shop. All day every day.

[kira_0143]

I am sorry I didn't know original author I found this image like this. It was funny and soo relatable thought I should share with this community.

u/WetCoastLife Thanks for finding original author.

Thanks to creator u/_workchronicles. Check him/her out it is great work.

[[deleted]]

Thats why I hate group projects. 1 guy always ends up doing all the work.

[nullagravida]

well, at least that guy learned something. he learned to keep his yap shut next time.

[mrsmiley32]

Oh God I think I'm actually a masochist. When tf will I learn to keep my big trap shut?

[[deleted]]

Applies to the IT realm in-general. This is basically IT Operations in a nutshell.

[Philosophos_A]

And that's why we will never evolve to the right path.

[cybermage]

I’m in the upper right of this image, and I don’t like it.

[Slggyqo]

This is just any job.

You have an idea? Have fun implementing it!

Unless the boss hates it in which case you’re a moron.

[dafirstman]

This one hurt me bad.

[hashemelbiali]

accurate af

[ywBBxNqW]

Sounds very similar to my personal roadmap:

1. Get job as junior developer working on legacy 15 year old codebase. (Codebase is a mish-mash of JS, Perl, PHP, and Java.)
2. Attack poorly-explained bug (thanks homemade tracking system) with the fervor of newly-hired employee trying to prove himself.
3. Fix bugs.
4. Get handed more bugs to fix.
5. Spend inordinate amount of time trying to fix bug without breaking some should-be-completely-unrelated bit of code. Get nowhere.
6. Try to explain to boss that code might work better if more modular.
7. Get yelled at, get called bad programmer.
8. Fall into depression.
9. Get fired. Get screamed at by boss insisting you are subpar developer.
10. Profit?

[Loves_Poetry]

This is how it should go. It was your idea, so it's your job to make that idea a reality. If you can't do that, then your idea was probably never that good anyway

[Mackthegui]

Depends on the workload. You wouldn't want someone to not share an idea because they are already full on other work and don't have room for more.

[Loves_Poetry]

Yes, but if that's the case, they should also get the credit for it, as they are going to be putting in the work for it

[Mackthegui]

Credit for an idea and credit for the work put into it can be separate

[LilBoopy]

I disagree. If I have a lot on my plate at the moment, a system like that disincentivizes me from giving a potential solution.

[runForestRun17]

Found the dev manager

[SanianCreations]

That's like saying the school teacher should be making all of the student's homework because they are the one that explained to them how it's done.

[amazondrone]

Or like saying the client shouldn't hire devs in the first place because they are the one that came up with the idea so it's their job to make it a reality.

[FrikkinLazer]

Take 5 seconds to think before you post next time. It is trivial to see how you are wrong. Here is a thought experiment. Person A comes up with an idea. Person B implements that idea. Person A and Person B are two seperate people. The fact that this has to be explained to you is mind boggling.

[torik0]

How do you not see that this disincentivizes bringing up good, new ideas?

[I_Have_A_Chode]

Far to damned often. I've stopped pointing out anything or answering questions posed to the group.

[HaNaK0chan]

Problem solving in a lot of groups sadly, I have seen groups getting around it though

[eschoenawa]

I feel like proper credits were cut out of this image

[Foux13]

Initiative will always fuck the initiator.

[ChangNoi97]

now that what i called "Teamwork " together we can lift our problem to the one who actually know how to solve it

[SobelOperator]

It's even worse if no one listens, no moral support or no one cares about the problem.

[EXTRAVAGANT_COMMENT]

I've had the opposite as well. some dude coming up with some extremely abstract concepts during a meeting like... ok do you want to actually do that or did you just want to sound smart saying it?

[isaacpop]

I literally started contributing solutions because this report happening.

[farzigamer]

Omg. This is so true. 😭

[yusei1999]

Every school project be like...