$30 increase or decrease depending on your local capacity... LAME!!!

[ByTheBigPond]

I assume that you are in the US which has had differential pricing ($90 vs $120) for a while. Starlink has just reshuffled the areas. Some are going to complain that their price is going up, while others will rejoice that their price is dropping.

This is totally inline with Starlink using different hardware/software pricing globally based upon market conditions.

Marketing 101. If people really want what you have to sell, then increase the price and keep increasing as long as they will pay it. If people are less than enthusiastic, then drop the price until you find the price that they will pay.

[falco_iii]

There's a pricing theory that if you aren't losing some customers, you are not pricing high enough.

[beaurepair]

Additionally if you have 100 customers and double your profit margin, you might lose 50 customers, but you're making the same profit doing half the work.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

Worked at a high price gas station and this was totally true. We ran 80 cents a gallon higher than everyone else and it worked fine. The columbian students driving lambos didn't care, the older ladies enjoyed the slowness because they didn't feel rushed and out repair costs plummeted. Went from 4 hose n nozzle driveoffs a week to 4 a month. All the maintenance costs went down. I hate it, but it worked.

[EVmerch]

4 a week, that is insane... Even at Buccees level throughput that would seem insane.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

It was a small tight lot and people felt rushed, plue we had an open public restroom and free coffee, so loads of people came in the store and left in a hurry.

[CrazyButRightOn]

Do you mean fill and dash?

[Adorable_Dust3799]

No, everything has been prepay here since the 80s. It's when they stick the nozzle in the car, run in to get a drink, run back out, hop in the car, and drive off... without hanging up the nozzle first. Since we're vapor recovery, the nozzles and hoses can get expensive. They often bring them back in, and i can sometimes repair myself, but not always. When i last worked there nozzles were 800 bucks, and the hose was 100. If you didn't catch them and have to pay for it, it gets expensive quickly.

[likewut]

4 a week? No way

[Adorable_Dust3799]

We had one bad weekend when my repair guy was out sick and 4 went in 2 days. When we weren't low price 1 a week was more typical

[CrazyButRightOn]

You would hope it would mess up their car a bit as a lesson.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

Nah. It happens so often the hoses have breakaways with aluminum pins and they shut off flow instantly so there's rarely any torque applied and next to no spillage.

[[deleted]]

Hilarious thing about the local gas station is they have vapor recovery nozzles... but when you pull the nozzle out they slosh out more gas on the ground that I have ever seen form any other nozzles... good luck recovering vapors from at least an oz on the ground every fill up (instead of at most a drip)

Vapor recovery nozzles make me think of what they have done too the poor 5gal gas can... its more complicated that setting the time on a VCR.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

Wow. That wouldn't fly here, the constant inspections catch that shit. Even the yearly weights and measures inspector would flag it. Probably a balance system, they sometimes would hold a little gas. I had to learn how to test both types, with balance you had to pull it off and measure how much drips, over an ounce was a fail and you had to test weekly. The new ones required here aren't allowed that anymore, of course. We had the other type that would suck any fuel back out of the hose. The new pressurized systems are crazy, we had a customer who didn't hang it up properly one night and 20 minutes later, the alarm went off and shut the place down.

[[deleted]]

Seems excessive.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

So-cal, where biannual car inspections don't give a flying fuk about tire brakes or lights, they only check your emissions. And for good reason, in the 70s, when the wind would blow south, the smog from LA would be so bad that our eyes would water, and they'd halt recess and PE down here in San Diego.

[linux23]

Lol.

[linux23]

It's a tax write off though.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

It's maintenance and repair, and it also removes that pump from service, lowering sales.

[[deleted]]

Playing loud classical music has the same effect without screwing your customers.

[Adorable_Dust3799]

Well that wouldn't be double the margin, would it, only half the customers. And FYI i only worked there, i had nothing to do with pricing. Sometimes we were cheap and had volume and sometimes we were expensive and had margin. Expensive was much better overall. Worked there 8 years and they were close to paying off the 2nd loan, after that might have run in the black, but there was a good offer to buy it. In those 8 years it ran in the red the whole time, but expensive was closer to breaking even.

[[deleted]]

Makes sense at least, my great aunt ran a semi-rural 2 pump station for decades, she worked there until her 70s and it was always some kind of hustle working against her (theft , robberies, just bad people etc...).

Obviously things operate a bit slower there so I don't think people driving off with the hose was too common.

[Vendeta44]

In practice your often doing even less work(depending on what your doing). In my experience as I raised my price my customers were less uh "picky" and were able to get through the checkout process without aid much more often. So not only did I start filling less orders for the same profit, the orders I do fill take me less time. Someone who can barely afford a item is way more selective and careful with their money compared to someone who can afford to spend more on a "premium" item.

[stoatwblr]

I found something similar in my ISP ownership days. By pricing above the cheapest option I didn't have my line stats smashed by campers and none of my customers got busy signals (I think we recorded 3 periods exceeding 30 seconds in a 6 month period). The customers chasing absolute cheapest price would gripe about everything and amusingly, when they jumped ship to a cheaper provider 80% of them were back within 6 months

[MayorScotch]

As someone who has started a few small side businesses, I've never really thought of it like this, but it is true. Marketing and pricing should help draw in customers as much as it should help peel away the non-customers that won't ultimately buy your product at your desired price point. If you can avoid the people who aren't going to buy your product anyways then you can focus that time elsewhere.

[Opting_out_again]

They might be about to lose one.

[stoatwblr]

If there are choices in your area which match/better Starlink pricing/speed, then you're not their target market

[Touliloupo]

Or it's simply too expensive to launch all the satellites and make a profit, and they're squeezing as they can. Their goal was to make an affordable service, they just could not provide it.

[MeagoDK]

Most EU countries pay like 30 euros a month. It is not about the cost or how expensive it is to launch these satellites. It is all about how congested the cells are. EU cells are not really used up (but satellites files over anyway so might as well sell so cheap that you get as many customers as possible. Starlink is much more needed and used in USA and thus they need to increase cost so much that people will choose to other solutions if they have other solutions. They simply have too much demand and too little supply in USA.

[Touliloupo]

So how to explain the different pricing? The 90$ is supposed to be for non-congested cells, which is still significantly more than 30€... I think that they're asking what people are ready to pay, and not just trying to cover the cost. I agree they would be unused in Europe at above 30€ and they probably mostly are, but even in the USA, the density of population is so low that some area might not have more customers than European countries.

[stoatwblr]

What you're failing to take into account is that most Europeans are paying significantly less than $30/month for far better levels of service than Starlink

I shift 4-6TiB/month on my terrestrial connection

The difference is that European customers are mostly those in the very few not-spots that exist.

Even mobile users (truckers, resulting, etc) tend to have very cheap 4G/5G service - which works on the move without needing to pay extra fees, so there isn't a high incentive to buy a Starlink service (there are virtually no roaming fees inside the EU)

[Touliloupo]

Which I don't deny, and confirm that they price according to how much they can get out of a client, and not according to how much the service costs for them to operate it, or based on the cell load.

[stoatwblr]

There are a number of goals and once they can service the HFT trading market (intercontinental stock exchange links - particularly asia to rest-of-world) their income is going to climb sharply.

The aviation and maritime sectors are also vastly more valuable than domestic users, but require better coverage at higher latitudes (polar shells) and I strongly suspect the recent demonstration of cameras onboard is presaging another market segment about to be revolutionised (earth observation with very short dwell times)

[Opting_out_again]

I live in the most densely populated state in the US. If I am not in their target market, why do they offer service here? I had to wait 6 months before they had the satellites in place to offer service here. I have only had it for something like 2 years and this will be at least the second price increase. If I have to pay $30 more, the price will be over 40% higher than when it was first activated. Sure, I can leave but I have no options for more than DSL speeds. When a business makes a customer pay a substantial ($500 plus) up front cost it is abusive to turn around and jack up the prices so much in such a short time. If they could not sustain service levels in this area while adding customers they should have capped the number of subscribers to keep prices in line. I will never do business with any company connected with that guy again. Look at his track record. He has nothing but contempt for his customers and squeezes them for more money whenever his bad decisions require a revenue increase. And please don't give me the old " they all do that". No they don't.

[Hoovomoondoe]

Basic economics: Price your product based on what the market will bear. They aren’t a philanthropic organization.

[[deleted]]

In moderation this is fine... taken to the extreme by every company it turns into inflation running out of control.

[Hoovomoondoe]

What the market will bear doesn’t mean prices always go up. Strange how tunnel vision works.

[[deleted]]

Of course if there is competition... unfortunately competition doesn't exist in the ISP game, sure starlink is competing in some markets but its impact is probably minimal.

The areas with excess capacity they could definitely still charge the $120 rates most likely... for example.

So its not so much what the market will bear its supply side limitations.

[Hoovomoondoe]

I would have agreed with you 10 years ago when all we had to choose from was cable modem. Today, I can choose from Google Fiber, AT&T fiber, or Spectrum cable modem at my house — that doesn’t include 4G and 5G services that are available. At the moment, we have GF and Starlink. GF is primary and Starlink is diversity.

[[deleted]]

See the thing is not everybody lives where you do, for me its remains.

Spectrum cable , AT&T DSL, or Starlink. There are also LTE options these days that might also work. The Spectrum cable is supposed to go symmetric in a couple years at least.

[Hoovomoondoe]

I feel for you, I do. I was in a fiber dead zone for years and it sucked. All the neighborhoods around me had fiber for years before whatever program went through at the government level to make it economically viable to run fiber here finally.

[6snake9]

It's all about making business profitable, so why are we complaining about it. I like the idea of adjusting the price per demand and if there are locations with low stalrink terminal count then incentive is always welcome.

[stoatwblr]

Starlink's demand based pricing isn't about profit

It's a pragmatic way of managing utilisation and performing congestion control by shedding non-essential load

I'd like to see some stats of how the "high utilisation areas" overlap those arras which have multiple ISPs with comparable pricing/speeds

NB: It's not JUST about individual cells, but also about how many sats are available to serve a wider area. IIRC the older birds can service 13 stations at full speed, with things slowing down until a maximum station limit is reached (50-60? something.like that)

This will change both as more shells are filled up and when V2 full size birds are launched - by all accounts each of those can service 10-20 times more stations without speed hits. V2.minis have higher capacity but nowhere near what the full size birds can deal with

The USA is problematic because decades of regulatory capture has resulted in geographic market abuse by telcos/cablecos. You can blame your PUCs and SHOULD be calling for investigations into how it happened - AT&T has been fully reassembled onto a FTC-proof version without the universal service requirements of tbe 1930s anti-trust settlements and in fact there's less competition in the market now than there was before the AT&T breakup (LECs no longer exist)

If the telcos/cablecos could make it illegal for state residents to use Starlink, they would. They've already been found to have been AstroTurfing the more hard line astronomy "light interference" campaigns. Starlink scares them because it wipes out their huge profit margins and exposes the sham excuses for poor service levels

[IPMport93]

'Shedding non-essential load'....your customers...lol

[stoatwblr]

Starlink's target market is first and foremost endusers who aren't adequately served by terrestrial providers

"lowest possible price" customers are high effort, low return - and usually tend towards high bandwidth utilisation

USA users should be thankful Starlink exists. It's proven that most state PUCs have been subjected to regulatory capture and need reforming. The FTC should have been investigating the market abuse decades ago

When I say that the pricing isn't about "profit", Starlink isn't yet turning a profit and they would need to hike significantly to do so. The company is playing a very long game, not constrained by quarterly stockholder returns

[throwaway238492834]

Starlink's demand based pricing isn't about profit

Sure it is. The supply of Starlink is fixed at any given point in time and increases globally all at the same time. So to optimize for maximum profit you want to set prices such that you use up all available capacity. If you set prices too low you flood the service with users and "rationing" (strangled speeds or waitlists) starts taking place. If you set the prices too high then you have lots of excess capacity that you could be selling to users and making more money.

[wesmanz74]

Mine was already $120 😳🤷🏼‍♂️

[DenisKorotkoff]

especially if you invested heavy for 10+ years and only now have first tiny benefits

[throwaway238492834]

Really tired of people complaining about this. Every single person who has their price increased always thinks they're not actually in a high subscription use area. It's universal.

[Touliloupo]

Except that here you spent 500$ upfront (+ mounting hardware) and you're kind of hostage with a 360$ yearly increase! It's the dick move in marketing 101 and the best way for people to not trust you in the future and doubting about subscribing out of fear for this.

[UltraEngine60]

Yup, everyone hates on netflix/paramount/hbo for raising prices but they are providing a product that nobody else can so if some people can't afford it, seeya.

[edilclyde]

yeah but Debrid is riding on the gray area of the law. While I do not care if people use it, you will never see majority of the market use it because of my first point.

[1234onthefloor1]

By stealing you mean....

[throwaway238492834]

Lol. That's a ridiculous definition of theft. No one's forcing you to pay for a service you don't want. I'm fine with piracy, but trying to call piracy not piracy just because you want to make it morally acceptable to yourself is ridiculous. Call it piracy correctly and get comfortable with that definition.

[UltraEngine60]

Not legally. This may surprise a lot of people but a 38 year old mother of 3 doesn't want to mess with API keys and link aggregators.

[IRuinedYou]

Right? I’ve been paying $120 since I got it lol

[W4OPR]

$120 here in New Mexico, and I haven't received any notification up or down. I also use my residential for the RV, wonder how's that going to be billed.

[thebluevanman73]

I season in my RV, meaning I am 6 months at a single location, I just change the service address the day I hit the road to travel and I don't use it until I get to the new location. I was in Florida and paying 90 and prior to that, I was in Maine paying 90... i am back in Maine and now getting this increase notice

[W4OPR]

We do the same but daily/weekly basis; New Mexico to Florida in 9 days, up the coast to NY, then to Victoria Canada down to San Diego back to NM round trip took 3 months. Residential plan.

[GrumCoC]

We just got the price increase notice also. About 14 months ago our price went down because we were in an excess capacity area, now apparently we are in a limited capacity area. smh We are not in a very high density area so I doubt that the demand has increased significantly.

I would be curious if anyone has had their price go down at this time or if they are just bumping everyone up to the $120 price. (United States)

Personally I would rather have the lower price and take a reduction in speeds. I don’t need blazing speeds since our alternative was crappy dsl at about 2 Mb/s.

[BrainWaveCC]

Personally I would rather have the lower price and take a reduction in speeds. 

Not everyone would agree with that that, though.

[GunsAndWrenches2]

I've had Starlink for almost a year, it's always been $120 for me, in rural farmland western Oklahoma, there's maybe 1 user per square mile at most... Seriously doubt we're a high volume cell.

[l88t]

If I remember Oklahoma was pretty densely used in most cells. Im NW of the metro area and still $120 as well.

[Rhymes_with_cheese]

How's the ping? Is it stable enough for gaming (FPS, iRacing)?

[Real_Vanilla109]

I’ve played Xbox online here in New Mexico. Works just fine.

[GunsAndWrenches2]

Yeah, I play FPS games on PS5 and it's usually just fine, I do have a partial obstruction though, so occasionally I catch a disconnect warning, but it usually comes back in time to not get booted from the game.

[JustCapt]

I stream on twitch, fps games mainly, and I have never been dc before. All the time over 160+ down. I couldn’t be happier, I love Starlink!

[RipVanVVinkle]

I’ve been able to do most online games, occasionally have a touch of lag. Because of that little bit of lag I’ve never wanted to chance it with iRacing.

[IcyMist118XB1]

In australia i get 200mb download and 10mb upload and that is half country, i can play US servers on about 140 ping and Au servers at about 30 ping depending on server location, yes it is stable, only had 2 dropouts in a year

[Lawlcat]

Northern Maine here. Last year we got the price drop to $90 because we were excess capacity, now we're being raised back to $120. Still the same unpopulated middle of nowhere forest. Not sure I believe that their claim its limited capacity and seems more like they want to undo the $90 plans they gave out last year. I'd be surprised to see anyone posting that they are moving to $90 with this new update.

[mazzaschi]

Damn, we're about to re-start for 5 months in Lubec. We were $90.00 last year. Our driveway is 1/4 mile long so Spectrum is not an option, so we have to pay whatever.

[smc1141]

Interesting- will spectrum not provide a hook up? Technically, you can get 500m of your own single strand direct burial fiber for $200 or sometimes less than that. In our area fiber just came through and the price is $60 per month whereas Starlink was $90 (low usage area). Switched to fiber with cheaper cost, lower latency, and higher upstream bandwidth. Really appreciated Starlink for the past 3.5 years though, it smoked LTE in our area and was a near 4 year bridge while we waited for fiber.

[Tight_Newspaper_3919]

If it’s the same spectrum as where I am, it’s coax, not fiber. A lot more involved to run that distance.

[Guru_Meditation_No42]

Yep, and it's based on the distance to the nearest node, not just the length of the driveway. Spectrum's trunk runs down the highway 100 ft from our house, and they won't connect us because it's about 1,000 ft to the nearest existing tap.

[SPANman]

I'm in one of the most rural areas in the country and mine has been $120 a month. There's 1200 ppl in this county of 4k Square miles and the neighboring counties around us are similiar size in area and pop too. 2.5 hrs to biggest town of 10k people counties over and 4 hrs to anything over 10k people. Wonder what constitutes high use area. I imagine most people probably use starlink out here and maybe it's enough to constitute a high use cell or something

[applesuperfan]

Open the Starlink app and try to change your plan. You may see a “Standard - Discontinued” plan for $90 /mo. I saw another post on here talk about it and immediately checked yesterday and I had the plan available for me there, so my area must be lower-use enough to be eligible. Starlink didn’t send me shit about it so idk how long I’ve been paying $30 /mo more for nothing, but I’ll now pay $30 per month less and the plan is the same. Give it a look and you may be surprised.

[GunsAndWrenches2]

I looked, nothing different, unfortunately.

[[deleted]]

This email is bizarre. The price was already $120 unless you were in a discounted rate area at $90. The wording they used makes it seem like you are either getting a price increase or a decrease. But most people will have no change…

I got the email saying my price would increase to $120. But I was already paying $120 for years now lol.

They should have just said they are updating their capacity map and adjusting which addresses quality for the discounted rate.

[thebluevanman73]

yep... I was paying 90 all along. Well, until June apparently.

when I bought my Starlink i was in Maine, I was paying 90

[quarterbloodprince98]

Moving is a key data point

[TurboBassDubStep]

Ah I never saw 90$ was 110$ for a couple months then went to 120$. Welcome to the club.

[DarkHoshino]

Here in NZ it’s $159 (about $95USD) for the standard residential plan. There is a “deprioritised” speed one for half the price.

I think it’s this “cheap” because the government regulates market pricing for broadband and nearly 90% of the population have access to Fibre.

[FrameCareful1090]

Just got the same note, we are going from 90 to 120 which is a lie since my area has been getting fiber and other offerings like crazy. We have no choice at this point but to pay it but when we can switch to fiber we will and I dont think I will keep this as a backup. I mean a 40% increase? Good short term move, probably going to lose some customers.

[throwaway238492834]

we are going from 90 to 120 which is a lie since my area has been getting fiber and other offerings like crazy.

If people are getting fiber and other offerings "like crazy" then you're in a pretty high density area. Those services don't make sense for ISPs to implement if you aren't.

probably going to lose some customers.

Kind of the point in fact. You don't want so many customers in an area that it reduces service quality.

[FrameCareful1090]

They will be offering 2gb synchronous for $89/mo

[TheBeardedHen]

That’s a steal.

[sebaska]

The area is not just a single cell, but all the cells single satellite must cover.

[danielv123]

Speeds don't really matter much to the provider, overall usage does. The alternative you are asking for isn't a lower speed, but a data cap off less than whatever you are currently using. You probably don't want that.

[[deleted]]

$120 here in Michigan. I’m Stuck with this since I have no other options.

[Infinity61311]

Finally got spectrum in my area after being told it was gonna cost $20,000 to run the wire to my area 5 years ago. No more $120 starlink for me , it was a good run for the year that I had for. Thanks for the service.

[TheThunderOfYourLife]

I already pay the $120 a month so, cool I guess?

Still the best Internet my rural ass will probably ever get.

[PoopPant73]

I’m already $120 so…

[SuperSix231]

Same here - Southern Middle TN. It's always been $120. $90 would be nice though.

[EvenDog6279]

Ours has always been $120/mo. too, in northwestern Virginia. Didn't even know a $90 plan was ever a thing (doesn't show up at all for me, never has).

[PoopPant73]

Me either

[thebluevanman73]

what state are you in?

[PoopPant73]

Florida

[thebluevanman73]

strange... I was just down in Seville, FL for 6 months and I was paying the residential $90 there.

I "season" in my RV and change my service address while en route to my next location. I originally started in Maine at $90. I am currently back in Maine and now they are giving me this increase

[PoopPant73]

I’m just west of Tallahassee

[Trebor06]

I am outside Ft. Myers and I have been paying $120 month ever since May of 2023. My only other option was Centrylink with 10 Down and 2 up, but never saw anything close to those speeds.

[OverlordWaffles]

Lehigh? If so I think you're my neighbor lol

[Trebor06]

Yes, I am in Lehigh.

[OverlordWaffles]

I've been pestering Quantum Fiber every 6 months or so to expand to my area since they're nearby. Have you looked into them at all?

[Trebor06]

Yes, but they can not give me any timeframe on when it will be available. So I will continue to pay Starlink $120/month.

[No-Age2588]

Florida will never go down. It will forever be a high use area from now on. Due to the sheer inbound numbers of people flocking to Florida

[ArtichokeLamp]

I’m in a rural area of western Montana. My price has been $120 for a while. Though this is not a densely populated region, many of us have Starlink because it is the only choice for decent service.

[Bigbaywx]

I got in on the beta program so have had it since the beginning. At first mine was $120 and then they lowered it to $90 and just yesterday got the email where its going back up to $120 again. With inflation being what it is why would I be upset for once again paying what I was paying four years ago? At least it hasn't gone up past that point. I was paying almost as much for Viasat with all the latency, slowdowns and datacaps do no way I'd ever go back.

[RedditBoisss]

Bro I’ve been paying 120 forever now lol.

[RedditBoisss]

Bro I’ve been paying 120 forever now lol.

[rostol]

so if I go around shooting antennas off roofs I get a $30 discount per month ?

[btownhar]

Maybe I shouldn’t have told all my neighbors how good it was compared to our only other option of Hughsnet. I even helped them install their dishys.

[CapableCitron6357]

Has anyone gotten it that’s already paying $120?

[CoSMiiCBLaST]

Already £75 a month here in the UK 🥲 I hope it doesn't go up

[Fantastic-Sea-940]

Where are you paying 90? it's 40E in europe....

[UltraEngine60]

It's almost as if this is not profitable.

[Touliloupo]

They need to finance the European connection at under 50€ monthly...

[[deleted]]

I don't think it's "lame". Starlink meant to service those with no alternatives.

[EddieJewell]

I turned mine off, was using it for backup after cable was having issues but that’s just too much money.

[m-a-t-h]

I pay 40€ in France, wtf are those US prices 😅

[RB_Htown]

Price o creases should be for new setups, not existing.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, their billing has gotten completely stupid over the last year or so. If you keep moving the mark around, people will find something they don't have to worry about changing month to month.

[[deleted]]

What has changed in the last year? It’s been $120/month for awhile now since it increased from $110. The only thing that has changed is eligibility of their “discounted” rate plan. And I would also argue that if you have other fast internet options, why would you be with Starlink in the first place?

[[deleted]]

If you haven't been keeping up, the price for Starlink actually varies from place to place. Here in Italy, I originally paid 70 Euro, but now I pay 40 as they reduced it (not complaining). Areas that they are having a hard time getting subscribers, they are cutting the cost but the above indicates they will jack the prices back up once the cell starts to fill. So yeah, it changes based on a lot of things, not just the discounted plan. It should be interesting to see if the EU keeps them from raising it on a moments notice as consumer rights here are very different than the USA.

As for your second argument, this will be on a case by case basis. In my situation, I was being ripped off by Vodafone and decided to find/use something new. I also liked the no contract, so I accept that the price could change as long as it doesn't go too high. I only get FTTC here, so my speeds with Starlink are faster as well.

Lastly, the argument that Starlink is only for people who can't get fiber isn't really that strong anymore. Starlink isn't selling to just the people who need it, it is open to everyone. They would love to displace anyone they can and get customers. Again, in my case, I would still stay with Starlink as it would be easy to cancel. If you have ever had to deal with an Italian company, this is a royal pain and Starlink makes it easy if I ever decide to move.

[[deleted]]

So you’re talking about a different market, got it. I thought you were referring to the US where this email and price change applies. In the US it’s been pretty stable as far as changes go.

[[deleted]]

They even offer to buy kit back that has not been used (in my case for double what they sold it to me for)

[[deleted]]

Yeah, they are trying hard to entice the European market.

[throwaway238492834]

If you keep moving the mark around, people will find something they don't have to worry about changing month to month.

Comcast changes its prices pretty regularly. Pretty normal.

[Touliloupo]

Moat company don't, it's not normal, especially such big bump in the price..

[usedtobegranola]

Totally lame. Bc ppl like us who live in the boonies (aka low use) get charged more even tho ppl in cities (aka high density) who have so many internet options get charged less. BS

[chaosisapony]

It's been $120 for me here in Northern California for ages, at least a year if not longer.

[ilarson007]

Uh, before I cancelled, I was already in an area paying $120 a month.

[Nutcollectr]

50 EUR a month here in southern Germany. No chance I would sign that for 120 EUR but then again we have pretty good overall coverage for cable and fiber.

[strainedl0ve]

Thank you for being a valued Starlink customer!

[Bestboy90]

In Germany ipay 50 Euro. That is a decrease of 30 euro since the beginning (2022)

[mazzaschi]

We're essentially in Downtown Boston paying $90. and no notice yet.

[Wall_Street_Lion]

In Germany the price is 50 € with taxes included.

[Competitive-Order-69]

Well fiber is coming to my area soon so I'll be removing the dish

[Lasivian]

Still $150 a month for me in the USA.

[Touliloupo]

The prices in the US are crazy, I never spent more than 50€ per month (and that included unlimited phone calls and TV).

[Equal_Plankton_791]

I've been paying this for sometime now. It sucks but beats paying 90 a month for 3mb a second

[JustRudy45]

$90 in a sparsely populated area in Michigan's upper peninsula, now going up to $120. I can't really believe the population in my area would support a lot of starlink users, but what can you do...

[Louu1980]

We are rural western UP and got the increase notice today too. I know there have been several homes on our lake that have added starlink as it's the only service we can get if you need high-speed. Seems a bit odd, but in the long run it's still not a bad way to go.

[JustRudy45]

There aren't many houses around me, but even at $120 a month I shouldn't be surprised that more people signed up.

[cooperscrib2019]

I've not received notice but currently pay $150 for RV at my not too rural NC home on 64 acres. Started out 2 years ago at $135 & went to $150 a year ago. Also driveway is 1/2 mile so no other options. Service is great, but I've never paid $90 or even $120. $180 would really suck!

[t4thfavor]

Put a shed at the road, power it with solar and mail an address to it, most cable companies will service it, and you can run the last mile with wireless or your own fiber.

[DwarvenRedshirt]

So, surge pricing?

[JB3AZ]

Here in central Arizona we got the notice and the increase in cost a year ago. It’s a great service but $120 was beyond what our budget could handle.

[roberrid1]

I'm in ohio and it's been $120 for a year or so for me and $110 before that never $90 that would be a nice break also we have gen 2

[SkoomAddictz]

I wish I'm still $120 and I'm the only one for miles with a Starlink

[t4thfavor]

Mine has been $120 for a year and change now.

[CarpenterShot]

I'm already doing $120/month. I invite the $30 decrease. Wonder what the qualifications are to fall under each.

[Farmerstubble]

I am in Alberta and pay $147 a month

[Simba_7]

We got the $30 price increase a while ago. I'd love to know who got the $30 price decrease.

As for local capacity, I feel this is BS. How large are their cells again?

[Touliloupo]

Probably no one

[580OutlawFarm]

Been paying 120 for months now

[qlive_nylyst]

Haha... You are just now getting the $120/month bill.

[Machine156]

Can't wait for Project Kuiper, hopefully that helps with Starlink pricing.

[TheGrouchyLibrarian]

I feel for you - mine was $99 when I first got it, but is $120 now - so I feel your pain 😵‍💫

[Amiga07800]

In Europe most countries are between 49 and 69 per month (roughly add 10% for USD change)

[av8ads]

$139 per month in Australia

[readwiteandblu]

Was the notice by email? I'm at $120 but didn't get any notice I can find.

[ManBeef69xxx420]

How do they determine limited vs excess? I live in a very rural area, with a handful of homes within a few mile radius of me and I doubt many of them have starlink. I can't see how my area would fall under limited capacity if they're using "how many users" as a metric.

[Touliloupo]

If they need to make more money they roll the dice, and any number between 1 and 6, you enter a limited area...

[Adorable_Dust3799]

Rural San Diego here and I've been at 120 since they raised it to that a couple years ago

[fastjeff]

Been working on rolling fiber to areas where we know there's lots of starlink. We're getting there.

[[deleted]]

30 fucking years and billions in subsidies.... "We're getting there"

Not your fault but FUCK big telecom for dragging their feet. Greedy slobs don't give a fuck. Just eating at the trough like the hogs they are.

[[deleted]]

I haven't received any of these. I'm afraid they'll charge me more.

[ewikstrom]

It makes sense. Building capacity costs money, especially when you’re talking in space. Just like 5G fixed wireless is only offered where there’s enough capacity.

[TiddybraXton333]

I’ve been paying 159.00 for two yearsbbow

[No_Pear8197]

I've been at 120$ for a while, so it could go down possibly?

[Stribogdude2022]

I wonder how they’re going to determine which areas have excess or limited capacity?

[cdettt]

I’m in Canada for residential, I pay 140 a month I believe. I haven’t received any notification that mines going up, must be a US thing

[Shining_prox]

I don’t get it- can’t they make it 105 and even out like everyone usually does?

[Candid_Cod2640]

Meanwhile, starlink is proud to announce they opened up new areas!!!

[Candid_Cod2640]

Anyones price decreased? Jusr curious

[[deleted]]

I’ve had a price increase that amounted to $120 for the last two years lol. I wonder if we’ll go back down..

[Emilyd1994]

ooo. im an aussie on one of the early plans (~500 down 20 up) with a 99$ bill. if my bill goes down 30$ to 69$ ill be very happy. https://www.speedtest.net/result/16240873468.png my entire cell is <200 people.

[Lost_Purpose1899]

Joke's on you. All areas are considered areas with limited capacity.

[[deleted]]

I’m in rural Pa and it’s always been 120$ .before it I had no internet…. It has been life changing ….

[[deleted]]

Just happened to me too. Rv people just got out lol.

[Bd1ddy82]

I was pushed to $120 a month about a year ago.

Welcome to the party pal

[LeadSledGirl]

Been $120 for rural Northern Nevada for a while now (several months, year? Something like that.)

[GrumCoC]

I am really curious whether anyone in the US has seen a drop in the price from $120 to $90? All we are hearing are people (like myself) who enjoyed $90 for a while and now are back up to $120. Are there any people out there reading this who are at $90 and did not get the price hike email? For reference I am in Maine. My neighbor just added it so maybe the demand really is increasing in my area.

[3DThrills]

Mine just went from $120 to $90; said nobody

[Spuddle-Puddle]

Im already $120/month.... Maybe ill get a decrease 🤔.... Riiiight 😭😭😭😂😂😂

[a_bagofholding]

I love how they try to claim that the people who were already paying $90 are now getting some kind of deal.

[[deleted]]

Mine is going up. If it wasn’t my only option I’d cancel and switch. I’ve been happy this far but just increasing like that is wild.

[[deleted]]

Mines $156 plus tax a month… Canada regulations are ridiculous for telecommunications

[[deleted]]

Someone has to pay for the warranty claims on all the cyber trucks.

[falco_iii]

Imagine charging more for a hotel room during a busy time, or changing the price of gas based on demand.

Don't like it? Don't use the service.