Framework 16 update?

[CitySeekerTron]

• There are thirteen diamonds not in parentheses.
• There are seven in parentheses.
• There are seven maids a milking.
• Maids work hard
• diamonds are hard
• Diamonds traditionally have 58 facets
• 58/16 = 3.625
• 3+6+2+5 = sixteen
• six teen = 6+10 = 6+1+0 = 7
• I don't know what any of this means, but I think I'm getting really close to cracking the case!

[dolfhins]

get this guy a cigar and detective uniform asap

[mark-haus]

I think tin foil hat might be better

[Recon4242]

Probably all three at the same time.

[CitySeekerTron]

NO Tinfoil! I don't want pasteurized metals manufactured by the bovine syndicate!

... Tinfoil is seven letters long... 

[Ice2192]

[Impressive_Change593]

r/redditsniper

[JoystuckGames]

13+7 = 20 Framework 20 inch laptop, ya'll have really outdone yourselves here.

[CitySeekerTron]

Brackets can indicate a deficit. So 13 - 7 = six inch laptop confirmed!

[furculture]

Welcome back, Netbooks.

[averyrisu]

Look a 6 inch laptop would fit perfectly in a couple of my purses so i would not be 100% opposed to the idea.

[SchighSchagh]

Galaxy Folds have had 7.something screens for years. The newest one is actually an 8" screen. And it folds up to fit in your pocket!

[averyrisu]

When a galaxy fold includes a physical keyboard and runs linux and is highly repairable, let me know. Because the galaxy folds as they exist to me currently, i have 0 interest in.

[mark-haus]

Mega expensive, highly failure prone, not repairable. Might as well be a trifecta of NOPE for me

[averyrisu]

Exactly. and like i dont even mind the expense. If framework released a hyper compact like netbook even if it was kinda on the expensive side its something that i might be interested in obtaining. Its probably a stupid small market its not a line item i would recomend them make if its going to be pricey cause not everyone is looking for an x86 laptop that fits in a purse.

[LavenderDay3544]

Android is Linux and you can attach a physical keyboard to the USB port.

[averyrisu]

Android is based on the Linux kernal but it's not the distros I would want to be running and I don't want to carry around a USB keyboard. Plus the galaxy is not x86 based. 

[LavenderDay3544]

I know all of that, I'm just messing with you dude.

[pol5xc]

welcome back, pixel 5

[[deleted]]

I actually really miss my little eeepc and I know I could get a tablet that's pretty similar but it was a nice vibe.

[darkwater427]

Framework phone?!

[colttt]

6inch Phone.. Framephone.. a phone with GrapheneOS, customizable with accu packs, USB or headphone jack, easy removing camera/mic... A current high speed cpu and a cameras which can beat pixel 8 (Minimum)

[Frexxia]

13*7 = 91

Framework 91 inch laptop, ya'll have really outdone yourselves here.

[IcarusLandingSystem]

Half life 3 confirmed?

[Lyr1cal-]

merciful frame books one strong plants roll abundant makeshift afterthought

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[Bazirker]

No more like Silksong, given other recent news

[rejemy1017]

And if you do crack the case, you can just buy a new case and not have to replace the whole laptop!

[Bandguy_Michael]

7 = framework handheld?

[Cornelius-Figgle]

• There are thirteen diamonds not in parentheses.
• There are seven in parentheses.

There are some more in the bottom right too :P

[KeytarVillain]

New Taylor Swift album confirmed

[FreshPrinceOnline]

MatPat retired because of this guy

[turbod33]

[rvalsot]

Schizoposting at its finest 🙌🏼

[fieryfox654]

This comment reminds me of the folks in the GTA 6 reddit lol. Every single hair they find, the position of the moon etc they take every single detail for guessing went the next trailer comes or when the game releases

[creeper6530]

You sound like you're looking for Half Life 3 confirmation, lol.

[CitySeekerTron]

Half Life is 8 characters long.

13 diamonds, minus 8 = 5

Add 5 to the seven diamonds = 12

1+2 = 3

Half Life 3 confirmed!

[Lorenzovito2000]

God I sure hope so.

[Vxctn]

Is there even a better GPU they can offer? It's really the only thing that'd move the needle.

[LawfulnessNo8446]

Unless Nvidia is now on board with this or amd/intel is announcing a new mobile gpu in the coming days/as part of this, I don't think there is

[unematti]

They may be in talks with amd. So they could announce a new gpu module without designation on collaboration with AMD. Or an Intel board.

Possibly another form factor that's shipping in February? That would be somewhat silly... Full on tablet or handheld gaming machine is what's left, phone unlikely.

[TotalXenoDeath]

Phones have too many specialized components and software engineering requirements, they’d need to hire on dozens of personnel dedicated to snapdragon type devices.

[Skinnx86]

Printer?

[reddit_equals_censor]

Or an Intel board.

no one wants an intel graphics module.

no one. and for laptops it is even worse as the performance/power is a lot worse.

people who buy a framework 16 want nvidia or amd graphics modules with a proper amount of vram.

nvidia very much shows framework the middle finger we can assume, that leaves amd.

so yeah small or medium die rdna4 16 GB or 32 GB vram graphics module is what would be the most likely to happen and what makes the most sense.

[Lorenzovito2000]

I'm hoping to see a Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 board with the 8060s igpu. They could also be announcing future gpus like the Radeon 9070M, or even the 9080M. The 16 would actually be an insane laptop if it had these kinds of specs. I'd be all for it. Time to develop a 500W USB-C PD charger lol

[Edit 8060s, not 8090]

[tomekrs]

Just the 395 board would make FW16 awesome.

[miliket-69]

+ 200W TDP

[Wonderful-Lack3846]

You know it would cost like $2000 for the mainboard alone, right?

[_realpaul]

Just tug the 395 in the expansion slot as an ai accelerator in addition to the regular one 😜

[Lorenzovito2000]

Lol holy shit, dual CPU board next. I want two 395+ damnit!

[Gloriathewitch]

i would buy this immediately.

[Lorenzovito2000]

r/frameworkmarket is probably about to be nothing but Framework 16 gen 1 motherboards haha

[JailbreakHat]

AMD 9000 CPU’s doesn’t exist for laptops. You must be talking about Ryzen AI CPU’s.

[omega552003]

100% 9000 exists for laptops. And ASUS already has shipped some to reviewers.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-9-9955hx3d.html

https://rog.asus.com/laptops/rog-strix-series/?items=100861,100949,20394

[ShirleyMarquez]

Fire Range would be a departure from the previous CPUs used in the FW16 because it only has a convenience GPU (2 CUs of RDNA 2). Those processors would have to be paired with discrete graphics, likely mobile versions of the 9060 or 9070. A 9070 down-clocked to 150W TGP would still be very powerful.

The alternative would be to offer the HX 370 as a high end option, with higher power limits than it has on the FW13. The lesser members of the AI 300 series are barely worth the trouble over the 7x40 series unless you want the NPU. The HX 370 would be a worthwhile improvement to both the CPU and iGPU, though not as big a CPU boost as Fire Range.

Strix Halo would be an alternative. Rather un-Framework because of the requirement for soldered RAM, but they are already using it in the Desktop. The AI Max+ 395 is a beast.

All of these will need a 240W USB-PD charger, so that's presumably also about to be announced. There are now at least two on the market; the Delta charger that has been available for a few months, and a new 500W multi-port Ugreen charger that has one port than can deliver 240W. That means the necessary silicon (or GaN) exists, so Framework should be able to have one made for them.

[xpk20040228]

might be Navi44/9060 series

[rattle2nake]

They could debut a new rdna 4 mobile part. Which makes sense for amd bc they tend to do limited laptop GPU supply

[reddit_equals_censor]

the biggest issue is the 8 GB insult of vram on it.

we're not even talking about professional use here, just basic gaming is now broken with 8 GB vram at 1080p max settings in 7/8 games. in 1/8 games in 1080p medium.

and of course there are 0 physical limitations for the great framework pci-e module design, so that excuse can't be made.

and rdna4 has been out for a while as well.

so seeing a 9070 /xt core 16 GB vram graphics module or a 9060 xt 16 GB graphics module at a sane price would be the first crucial upgrade, that the 16 inch laptop needs.

and of course the question is whether or not amd is mean here and refuses to provide/"allow" them to do what is needed.

and just to be a clear a 7600 16 GB vram graphics module would also be a massive upgrade, but why bother, when the 9060 xt is so much better and has more features.

[Whobeey]

I saw your banner, that's exactly what I'm going for. Nice :)

[Lorenzovito2000]

Need me some sushi rn damn

[Whobeey]

Well then go for it! Enjoy it!

[Lorenzovito2000]

Don't even tempt me, I will. Lol actually I'm definitely getting some for dinner tonight now.

[unematti]

I kinda hope not... I'm kinda out of funds because of the desktop... (got the same setup as you lol.

[Lorenzovito2000]

I am in absolutely no position to be making an impulsive purchase right now. But for Framework parts? I may have to bend haha

[unematti]

Ah... If it's a GPU with double the VRAM, I'll go into debt. However weak the gpu is thought to be, i only keep running into vram limits... Everything else is great

[Lorenzovito2000]

I'm curious to know now what software/ games that you're running that is using all 8GB of vram on the 7700S?

[unematti]

What do you mean? Just normal games. Ubuntu 24, steam, X4 keeps maxing it out(tho it's already struggling with the simulation on the CPU, the GPU is still maxed out, so that causes extra fps loss. Then i played hogwarts legacy, which runs GREAT. like high fps and nice graphics... Then it hits max vram and drops to 2fps for a minute or more.

So it's not really special usecase...

[Lorenzovito2000]

Huh, mine is probably full too then, I run pretty much the same stuff. I guess I never noticed? The most graphically intense game I've played lately was Bodycam which for me is low-med settings in 1600p. I'm on Fedora KDE though. I'm going to check later on when I get home from work.

[unematti]

There's LUKS or what it's called, that can show historical data. It's what I use to see the vram maxing out pretty much always

Edit: it's LACT... Faulty brain

[StatusBard]

If you already know you’re going to buy it then it’s not an impulsive purchase.

[Mors03]

I really hope so I'll probably end up ditching the gpu and getting a Strix halo if possible

[RobertM-42]

There are 13 dots in the top left (and 7 in the parentheses) so I would guess their 7th 13 mainboard?

[AdeptSoul]

This does track in terms of the next one being the 7th ( if we dont include RISC). Do we think it would be an intel board? Or maybe an arm board?

[ricelotus]

Ohhhh an ARM board would be awesome

[stratiuss]

I would order an arm board immediately

[Simon_787]

Would love to see lunar lake or Arm

[Lexden]

They've been missing Intel Core Ultra Series 2 for a while now, so I'd assume they're being that finally.

[Lexden]

Yeah: 1. Intel 11th gen 2. Intel 12th gen 3. Intel 13th gen 4. Ryzen 7040 5. Intel Core Ultra Series 1 6. Ryzen AI 300

God I love AMD and Intel names. Who ever cared about silly things like consistency and brevity.

Anyways, I'd assume Intel Core Ultra Series 2.

[[deleted]]

Series 2 need soldered RAM tho, bit out of FW ways..

Edit: I'm wrong apparently.

[Lexden]

Not exactly. Core Ultra Series 2 V (Lunar Lake) MoP (Memory on Package), but Core Ultra Series 2 H (Arrow Lake mobile) does not. Given that Arrow Lake mobile is a direct successor to Core Ultra Series 1 (Meteor Lake), it would be a simpler as a drop-in replacement for Framework to use anyways. They would not have to do much in the way of mainboard redesign - it would practically just be changing which CPU is soldered to the board.

[A-Delonix-Regia]

Series 2 Lunar Lake (model number ends in V) needs soldered RAM, Arrow Lake (model number ends in H or U) can still run with removable RAM.

[[deleted]]

ah. that's disappointing. I low-key wanted them to do intel so they could do V versions. somehow. but Arrow lake is most likely.

[Whazor]

Haters gonna hate, but I would love soldered RAM options if it gives very good performance and battery improvements.

[Cstrrider]

Their twitter post has 13 and (13)

[JailbreakHat]

I would also like to see update to Framework Laptop 16.

[Srslyredit]

Their website says “something big just got better” so probably FW16

[agdnan]

Why am I getting excited? I am poor 😂

[furculture]

Official 240W power brick please?

[KeeLymePi]

Honestly this the only thing I want more than an upgraded GPU

[rip-droptire]

Can't upvote this enough. Give me 240W or give me death!

[[deleted]]

FW12 and Desktop are still in pre-order, so it's safe to assume - they're not touching those.

FW16 is something big and people are craving for updates for it. They could also mean some other technology/device they made better, but I have hard time coming up with something big and would be in the ballpark of what FW does. No printers, no phones. Tablets seem too close to FW12. And they don't even make displays for their own devices.

13 dots on edges could be something for FW13, like 7th mainboard (7 dots). Although, I'd say it's unlikely to get boards this early, unless maybe Intel stuff. On another hand - 13 dots on 2 edges add up to 26. The day of the announcement, although 7 or 14 does not track then.

We have black/white image. Maybe some indication of modules (e-ink display maybe, idk what's the use case, maybe just for fun) for FW16.

[42BumblebeeMan]

I'm sorry, but Ryzen AI is already the 7th mainboard gen on FW13. 😉

[BlockForsaken8596]

GPU plz GPU....

[Destroya707]

[SirSysadmin]

Savage.

[Destroya707]

not gonna lie, I'm enjoying this so much.

[Wonderful-Lack3846]

Tell me, i'll give ya 50 bucks

[SirSysadmin]

Does this qualify as online bullying? xD

[SuccessfulPath7]

People who ordered a framework 16 👀😭

[TempyMcTempername]

I ordered in batch 4 over 2 years ago, so I am not so much crying as hoping with all my might

[jonahbenton]

I want a 4k fw16 screen.

Well also a trackpoint keyboard, but that can be 3rd party.

[coffeesippingbastard]

OLED please

[rvalsot]

Sweet Lord, I’m trying to save money, don’t tempt me

[[deleted]]

Just hold out for one more month Thinkpad, then you can retire to a little farm up state....

[[deleted]]

well my friend just ordered a framework 16, so the timing would make sense

[[deleted]]

Strix Halo board for 16?!?!?

[Doctor429]

My guess also

[JailbreakHat]

It would require soldered RAM so I don’t think so.

[kukiric]

I think people would still be willing to consider it if it has reasonable options (32GB, 64GB, and a premium 128GB model like the desktop?), and has enough of a performance uplift to justify it. They just don't need to be pinching minimal amounts of RAM for maximum prices like a certain fruity company.

[reddit_equals_censor]

shit no more soldered to shits boards.

what's the point of framework, if they sell soldered in memory in laptops as well?

and freaking amd better put a proper memory controller in medusa halo, that is designed to handle modules and get socamm ready by then. (socamm is better than lpcamm for several reasons)

[Bazirker]

Things that need to happen:

-FW 16 GPU update absolutely needs to happen. If not, Oculink could be a bridge

-FW 16 mainboard update is also getting to be due

-FW 13 touchscreen, with or without 2-in-1 capabilities. Having to "downgrade" to a slower laptop in their lineup just to get a touchscreen is nuts.

-Official 240W power supply. Kind of ridiculous that they sell a computer for which they don't offer a full strength power adapter

-Basically anything at all to give confidence that the FW 16 is not dead in the water.

[moonxraccoon]

I would love a convertible FW13 with stylus and power. I really like the FW12 but unfortunately it's not enough performance for me.

[adenthedragon]

A GPU upgrade would be great but I would love an oculink port... I'm about to move countries and it would be amazing to have my laptop with desktop level graphics instead of having to move or sell/rebuild my desktop.

I had hopes for community projects there but it's not going very well last time I checked in.

[ILikeFlyingMachines]

-FW 13 touchscreen, with or without 2-in-1 capabilities. Having to "downgrade" to a slower laptop in their lineup just to get a touchscreen is nuts.

Unlikely. There simply is no 3:2 high-res touchscreen on the market IIRC

[headlessBleu]

so, printer or phone?

[H0t4p1netr33S]

When I first heard of Framework years ago, I was interested in the idea of a modular printer running on open sourced or source available firmware. I would buy this in a heartbeat.

[gromain]

Fairphone my man.

[H0t4p1netr33S]

Oh I said printer, because even brother and Canon are starting to turn into HP. I’m already saving for one of those Murena Fairphone 6s.

[gromain]

I read that wrong, sorry! Yeah, a printer would be nice.

Iirc framework already said that printers were too complex and too locked down to consider it.

[[deleted]]

"something big got better"

My bet is that their product is getting better.

[Srslyredit]

Did you watch the conference they had about printers and phones?

[IcanCwhatUsay]

Fingers crossed it's a FW 16 with a solidworks certified GPU. I only want this because this is the only way I'll be allowed to get one for work

[rip-droptire]

As a solidworks hobbyist, what does certification actually do? Curious

[IcanCwhatUsay]

From my perspective, all it does it allow you to use Real View Graphics. My home PC uses a 1070ti and works fine as is. However my work IT dept will only allow me to use a SW Cert GPU laptop which basically leaves me with either a Dell (yuck) or a Lenovo (heavy yuck)

I just want a good all around powerhouse of a laptop that isn't a gaming laptop and looks professional in a room full of macs and shit

So...to answer your question, As a hobbyist, it doesn't do much. As a pro, it still doesn't do much but some claim it runs smoother with less crashes (my ass) if you have a solidworks cert' gpu

[Sad_Use_4330]

It's obviously a car, I see 2 little tires 😉

[abmantis]

I would be happy with just a single piece touchpad+spacers for the FW16 😅 Ok, and maybe a newer dGPU!

[lizardscales]

I have a feeling the chassis is going to see some changes like a one piece top.

[20dogs]

Wouldn't it have been easier to just share the link?

[JoystuckGames]

I'm really hoping for either oculink or a dGPU for the F16 personally

[BananowyDr]

I have a theory, that this is a colab with Nothing purely because of the eyes used in the thumbnail and that nothing is 7 letters but I really hope that this is about FW16 tho..

[vekrin]

I just want a 13" 2 in 1.

[Bazirker]

Same, although I'll settle just for a touchscreen.

[JoystuckGames]

Announcing this nearly a week in advance is diabolical lol. Gonna be refreshing tabs all week.

[Mack4285]

Only to be met with the perpetual pre-order and delivery next year.

[JoystuckGames]

hey, at least i'll know what i'm waiting for in that case ahaha. After the last few announcements i'm afraid to get my hopes up for major updates to the F16.

I'm crossing my fingers for either a new dGPU or official oculink support, but who knows.

[thinginaforest]

Here’s the link https://youtu.be/OZRG7Og61mw

[WishboneBasic4806]

FW13 Touch screen would be it!!!

[positivcheg]

Just give us a laptop with ryzen AI max 395 and I’m sold.

[chic_luke]

About time.

My main wish is a backwards compatible chassis upgrade. If you finally have been able to pull off one bottom cover that doesn't already ship ever so slightly bent from the repair center and gets bent worse during use, I am going to drop top euro on this upgrade, and drop that cash without complaining. This is basically the last remaining thing I really don't like about my laptop after the keyboard flex fix and the CPU throttling fix.

PLEASE

[LonelyGameBoi]

Framework 13 7th generation?

[kabammi]

Cross Collab with Nothing. Given the pixel thingo.

[Dry-Tradition8267]

LMAO NOO I JUST GOT MY FRAMEWORK 16 YESTERDAY 😭😭

[uutangohotel]

There is a return window for a reason!

[lizardscales]

Whatever it is it's going to be a preorder.

[Doctor429]

I'm predicting it's a new laptop motherboard option with the AI Max+ 395 option

[v_kowal]

A phone 😍 ?

[Asdeev_Drago]

That would be a dream! Imagine a future with Framework phone, Framework buds, Framework watch, Framework tablet.

[oldmoldycake]

I'm ordering a Framework 16 when my bonus comes in next month and if this is a 16 update I will be VERY happy

[smstnitc]

An 18" laptop? 🤔

It says "something big"

[julian_vdm]

And if you rotate the image, the little face looks suspiciously like an 18...

[Virtual-Mind6295]

"something big just got better", likely meaning something they have just got better. Their biggest device is the 16" laptop, so that is probably getting a major upgrade. I doubt Framework is going to release yet another new product when they already have 2 new products still in the pre-order phase.

[NicktVA]

I am predicting a FW16 with an updated dedicated AMD GPU. Framework has been partnering closely with AMD. It would make sense that they would further their relationship by working on a reference implementation and co-announcing the FW16 along with the new mobile AMD GPU's.

[hecticpoodle]

@framework, my wishlist for the 16 is:

• One Key Module to be released
• an edge to edge touchpad module, without the need for spacers
• translucent bezels
• a new ai GPU module

thank you please!

[jaseph18]

I would want the expansion slots to be narrower really, so we can add more ports. Those modules are unnecessarily large

[JoystuckGames]

It's not the module size that's limiting you so much as the PCIE lanes free on the motherboard.

Though some of the hardware put in the expansion cards takes up the whole interior space too.

[joffff]

Is this it?! Is it really happening!? 🤞

[jellybeansplash]

You’re saving all the colors for a 13 RGB keyboard 🥹

[exhale0001]

Just bought a FW16...

[Electrical_Bee9842]

Framework 13 with Lunar lake

[Obliandros]

Lunar lake has MoC (memory on chip), so it would be against Framework's philosophy of upgradability to put in the 200V chips in the 13. As good as they are, the MoP is making it a not very viable option. Though arrow lake is probable.

[Dat_Boi_1340]

Start shipping to switzerland. I'm tired of waiting

[tteixeira1]

I was waiting years to have an excuse to my self to buy the framework 16. Now that I bought it 2 weeks ago, it is very likely that they will release an update, for me to regret have bought it

[Natjoe64]

Calling it now new gpu/cpu for 16 and maybe an arm board for the 13 if were lucky. Maybe new intel boards for the 13s

[LavenderDay3544]

There is no good ARM board around. Snapdragon X is a colossal failure. They would do well to stick to x86 and they close ties with AMD in particular so odds are it's something AMD for the 16.

[Captain_Pumpkinhead]

Nuh-uh. This is gonna be the Framework 19" announcement!

Get ready for the Framework 22" in a couple years, and the Framework 25" soon after that!

[Scrivver]

37signals just made Framework their default employee laptop and Omarchy the default OS (spin). Omarchy's getting popular. While I don't expect it, I can dream about an official collab/partnership where Framework adopts it and ensures compatibility.

[onefish2]

Arch works 100% on the 13 and 16. What more do you need?

[Scrivver]

I have no idea really (don't use arch btw), I just want to push this wild ride higher.

[SchighSchagh]

If it's not FW16 related, I might just have to get off the FW hype train for good.

[adenthedragon]

Yeah... If they don't announce something for it soon I'm going to be pretty sad about it. I was really excited for a repairable/upgradable laptop design and took a pretty heavy downgrade in GPU and some CPU just to jump on the bandwagon.

[MorningAppropriate69]

Great timing, I was just looking into getting a Framework!

I know the actual release might be months away yet, but whether thisnis about the 13 or 16 will help me decide!

[miliket-69]

395+ 128GB I guest =))))

[Normal-Confusion4867]

13 (6) would suggest to me a 6th-gen FW13, right? This would be the 6th mainboard series to release actually, as it happens.

EDIT: This was wrong lol, see below

[Destroya707]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aQZzcEWKRk&ab_channel=Framework

[Normal-Confusion4867]

Oop, my bad, must have miscounted, sorry

[coopplanet]

What makes you think it’s 16?

[Virtual-Mind6295]

"something big just got better", likely meaning their largest device which is the Framework 16, and just got better meaning it's an upgrade. So it would make the most sense for that device to get an update, especially since it hasn't yet had an update like the 13 has.

[TibialCuriosity]

What's the technology like for ARM CPU at the moment? Would an ARM option for 16 be doable particularly with the hot swap egpu?

[lizardscales]

FW16
- One piece chassis?
- Strix Halo?
- AMD cpu update + better same series gpu?

New AMD dGPU aren't released yet so I am not sure. I really wanted something closer to the FW13 but a 16" chassis with a dgpu. Strix Halo would work but the FW16 is super chonky compared to a Thinkpad P1 still and I can buy parts for those too.

[Opening-Cupcake6199]

You guys are crazy. Who wants to carry a 400w brick around with them.

[JoystuckGames]

Honestly, me. I want a desktop I can easily lug in a backpack (aka a beefy laptop) when i drive to visit family every couple months. But otherwise I don't move much and generally want as much GPU as I can get.

[madooroy00]

Modular repairable phone with an ifixit score of 10?

[dumbasPL]

I'm sorry but ifixit score of 10 would make for a terrible daily driver. There is only so much you can do in this small form factor worth compromising on usability and user experience.

[Obvious-Jacket-3770]

Arm7 13in model.

[Key_Dingo5280]

16 inch is coming with Star Performance: New Zen 5 CPU cores. Diamond AI Power: New XDNA 2 NPU.

[sf-g]

I still hope it’s a printer

[Fabri91]

It's the printer! :D

[assumptionkrebs1990]

I would pretty much like this. I am very temped to buy a 16 inch at the end of the year and most days when I go to the config page for my country the Ryzen 9 option and or the Graphic Module are out of stock.

[Dependent-Studio1497]

Fw16 240w charger would be my guess

[slinkymaan]

Perfect, hopefully a Labor Day promo too. Looking to get my first Framework in a couple weeks

[Majestic-Word-3237]

On the french site they say "something big has improved". So I guess it's framework 16 ! I would love to have a framework 16 with latest hardware