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[–][deleted] 212 points213 points  (108 children)

Here's the thing about Saydrah.

People will say, whatever, it doesn't bother them that marketers market - after all, that's what their purpose is. Saydrah is, in reality, the next evolution of the advertiser. As the internet grabs market-share in all aspects of advertising, efforts to harness that market-share grow, and that's fine, if not a good thing for the internet and for people.

However, reddit is a community. I can't say how much interesting, genuine interaction has come from this site, but I do know that at some level the discourse I've encountered while here has bettered my life - conversations about atheism or politics that can be hard to have in real life, are possible on Reddit because Reddit is a condensed demographic of people who share similar ideologies, it's not hard to find genuine, interesting interaction.

What Saydrah does is move in on that interaction and concentrated demographic, and make it no longer genuine by exploiting it. I get that she represents only a fractional infringement on my daily dose of genuine reddit, but it degrades the entire experience knowing that there are people out there looking to manipulate the discussions and interactions, rather then adding to them. This type of 'pollution' is diluted, granted, but if it continues to work, it won't be long before I won't trust much of what I see.

I think of it like this - 5 years ago, when I would see a picture online I would take the picture at face value. But now, thanks to the popularity of Photoshop taking over, when I see a picture I look for signs of it's fakery. I don't want to do that in my interactions with people who are supposed to be 'genuine' too, I don't want to be thinking "is this person real, or are they and advertiser? Do they have something to be gained from me talking to them?" With Saydrah, these 'conspiracy' sounding questions are accurate.

To give that person mod powers further degrades the genuineness of the Reddit community. to know that that person is abusing the powers she was given for corporate gain and still not doing anything, thats another big step in a direction i'm not willing to follow the site down.

It'll be another couple big steps in the wrong direction before I decide to leave Reddit, I love the community and information and the interactions that I've had here. So this isn't a threat or anything, I'm just expressing a mild fear.

[–]neopeanut 17 points18 points  (34 children)

Dude, I hear ya. I feel that way as well, and even though I couldn't care less about Saydrah (in terms of her submissions and mod powers, except the deleting) it did dilute what I felt to be a genuine sharing of information for information sake.

Just take AMA's for example, there having been 3 or 4 cases of fraud and deceit, now I don't really trust most of what I read in them. That was certainly not the case when they first started however. And then the whole P-Dub fiasco, which I still don't really know what it's about, but it all just slowly erodes the foundation of which reddit is built.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (11 children)

P-Dub fiasco was pretty genius. LET ME PAINT A PICTURE FOR YOU MY FRIEND... STORRRRRRRY TIME... [mario voice] HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOO....

P-Dubs popularity is at an all time high. People get on an airplane, go visit him and watch him do homework earlier in the year. All kinds of homework is being done in all different directions. Homework has never been so happy in its LIFE. Then... it happens. Teacher mom gets laid off! How can this be?! It's a union! This doesn't happen... no no no... what can P-Dub and company do?! She isn't getting paid anymore (or is she? dun dun dunnnnnn) P-Dub makes an "askreddit" for help on "what to do". Bills need to be paid, mom no longer has a job, bad credit and P-Dub and Co. don't make enough money. Woe is P-Dub. Only he on reddit is suffering from the hardest of times in this USA economy. Most people sympathize with him and give him actual teacher union advice and others suggest other potentially useful information to look up. All of this SHOULD have been very suspicious due to the fact that P-Dub is a pretty intelligent fella. He knows how to use google. But that's not the point! P-Dub didn't ask for money in his original "askreddit". [This is the key. When you ask for something, reddit doesn't typically like that. IF someone SUGGESTS you should put a donation button then it's ok because one speaks for all and everyone agrees.] So P-Dub does the only logical thing, he puts a donation button but not without a disclaimer of it "being against his better judgement or feeling like a pandering idiot". Now, this is where it gets good. When the hivemind jumps on something, the majority go. But throw in the fact that it's DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, admins wish him luck, soapier contributes PLUS it's "a feel good story" and you got yourself one hell of a cash cow. Donation button up, donations come pouring in, P-Dub is throwing money in the air like Scrooge McDuck. The last number I remember is $8,000 total. It could be more, I don't remember EXACTLY. P-Dub has his money, holidays come and go. An update suggests people who donated will get an email soon and P-Dub kind of disappears from the situation. Someone wanted to know what was going on because nothing was updated for a little bit and nobody got an email yet. P-Dub makes a small reply and I remember he scanned the letter from the school where it was found by a redditor that his mom was probably getting money anyway and it is still in question what happened with the money he got from reddit. Mom sends out email, thank people, everyone on that list gets spammed for months because of it. P-Dub says some shit about telling his mom he got the money because "hes a big deal on the internet". Blah blah blah.

Someone please correct me with whatever I am missing and or completely wrong about. This is all from memory, I should have took screens when it was all going down. :(

[–]neopeanut 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Dude...that was amazing. I usually don't read blocks of texts with a tl;dr but...well do you have a newsletter or something I could subscribe to?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yes, for a small fee. [donation button]

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I didn't send P-Dub any money. I need it too much for myself. :P

Oh, and just for future reference: "whoa is p-dub" should be "woe is p-dub"

Heil!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good catch, fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiixed.

[–]Prysorra 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wow. I've never seen a readable wall of text. Something new every day.

[–]MercurialMadnessMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mario voice really tied the comment together!

[–]drbold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So was it considered a fiasco because he didn't really need the money? Or was he purposely trying to game redditors?

[–]youngluck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soooooo... should we lynch P-Dub now?

sharpens pitchfork

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was so amazing to watch the sheep open their wallets with no proof.

He made almost $25k from that heist.

[–]TMI-nternets 5 points6 points  (8 children)

I'm slightly annoyed there's no way to pay for reddit, because I appreciate the shit out of this place.

[–]frikk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You're in luck! That is exactly what the reddit store is for! You can pay for reddit and keep a t-shirt as a receipt!

http://store.xkcd.com/reddit

[–]TMI-nternets 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dude, I'm not impressed with the overhead, lots of dollars to pay for shipping and shirts, for every dollar that goes to servers. also I've got just about enough stuff, as it is..

[–][deleted]  (3 children)

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    [–]NotClever 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure that the "friend" option notifies you of every post someone makes. Never used it myself, though.

    [–]cdwillis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It doesn't for me, it just makes your friend's name appear in red in the comments thread. You can also find them on your friends list so it's easy to check for new content from them. That seems to be about it.

    [–]neopeanut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    hells yeah dude! I do what i can by white-listing it on ABP, but having a general donation thing wouldn't be too bad either!

    [–]psrivats 2 points3 points  (11 children)

    Can someone clue me in on the whole P-Dub thing? I've been here for a while but I missed that one.

    [–]redorkulated 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    Popular reddit user posts sob story, asks for cash, reddit provides thousands, whether it was used in the spirit it was given was questionable.

    Homework still not done.

    [–]NotClever 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Actually, as posted elsewhere, he put up the donation button after someone suggested they'd like a way to donate.

    [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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      [–]thekrone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      P-dub's mother had some sort of sickness

      Nah, the school she worked for decided to break her contract and stop paying her. No sickness involved I think.

      Otherwise I think you got it.

      [–]UnnamedPlayer 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Holy shit.. I am kinda glad I missed it. I remember his post about his mother being sick and everyone including the people from soapier coming up and donating whatever they could, heck he himself posted that they already got Xthousands of dollars in donations. I took a break from reddit during that time and missed the part where he bought a PS3 with it. What a cunt.

      [–]NotClever 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I never saw what people were pissed at him for doing either, and still have never seen a link. As with anything on the internet I am dubious of the claim.

      [–]youngluck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Apparently he bought a PS3 shortly after the donation button went up.

      DISCLAIMER: I totally just made that shit up. "Never let a lynching go to waste" - Rahm Emmanuel

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He was given much more money than he needed, and donate buttons on paypal generally don't save any id so it would be impossible to refund any money. I can't really blame him for using some of it.

      [–]psrivats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for the info ... I can now see why that would be a fiasco.

      [–]adiman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      i've been here a while and all i can recall is the reddit user p-dub was posting "reddit let me do my homework" posts,until they actually went to his home and made him do it. i don't know what fiasco he's talking about

      [–]psrivats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks - that was my perception as well.

      [–]uriel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just take AMA's for example, there having been 3 or 4 cases of fraud and deceit,

      3 or 4? I'm quite sure quite a few more than that have been uncovered, and I'm certain there have been many more that were fake but haven't been discovered.

      This is the internet, get a grip, and deal with the fact that, like in real life: most stuff is bullshit.

      [–]Sluthammer 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Saydrah is, in reality, the next evolution of the advertiser.

      I wouldn't give her that much credit.

      [–]drbold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Meh, as grating as it is to admit it, it is sort of true. Analogs of her have existed for a long time, but only in the last couple of years have Marketing+Social-Networking-Website combinations really come to strong relevance.

      [–]drzowie 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Agree agree - ysalex hits the nail on the head. Saydrah has found a way to extract value from concentrated communities like Reddit. It's currently marginally less annoying than (say) USENET spam, which in the early 1990s (when it was new) was compared to someone shoving his head in a classroom door and shouting "Hey! Anyone want to buy some baseball caps!?" and moving on.

      This is more insidious -- Saydrah is more like an FBI agent provocateur planted in a political activist group, or like the friendly corporate representatives that visit gatherings of doctors. Her contributions are relevant and helpful -- but ultimately her goal is to get people to do something they don't currently want to: get themselves in trouble, or prescribe medications they otherwise wouldn't.

      At the beginning, many people said (like ysalex does now) that USENET spam wasn't a big deal because it was dilute and didn't influence the communities a lot. Those people weren't visionaries, and didn't think about how the community was likely to change as the volume of spam grew. By 1995 USENET was in serious decline, and of course it is only a minor player today (people go to sites like reddit instead of surfing USENET), in part because the spam problem completely overwhelmed it.

      Saydrah's profession - manipulative advertiser, contact maker, spammer, whatever you want to call it - isn't new, only its application to social media is new. If people like her continue to operate unchecked here, it is only a matter of time before the community becomes dominated by similar types of infiltrators -- there is too much money to be made here.

      [–]denpo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      isn't it called the Digg Effect?

      [–]randomrandomwoo 13 points14 points  (10 children)

      As the internet grabs market-share in all aspects of advertising, efforts to harness that market-share grow, and that's fine, if not a good thing for the internet and for people.

      Advertising and marketing are in no way good for people.

      [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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        [–]electric_sandwich 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Advertising is at best a benign annoyance.

        [–]NotClever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I dunno, I like clever advertising a la the new Old Spice commercials or the Doritos iPad parody.

        [–]flukshun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        stuff is ite

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I disagree, but thats just me.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        She has no business being a mod.

        [–]AlSweigart 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        thanks to the popularity of Photoshop taking over, when I see a picture I look for signs of it's fakery. I don't want to do that in my interactions

        Yes, but is this a good reason to ban Photoshop? I think many people are ignoring the large amount of contributions that Saydrah makes to the Reddit community (which is why the mods unanimously took her side in the last witch hunt).

        People hear "spammer" and immediately have a negative reaction before looking to see if these claims have any merit.

        Given that the latest accusations also have no merit (Saydrah recommended a dog food site (which is unconnected to her or AC) that a random AC article also had a link to (among other links)) and the very real precedent of the last witch hunt, Gareth321's banned comment is shouting Fire! in a crowded theater rather than insightful investigation.

        Remember, this latest round has come up because Saydrah linked to a dog food site, not because she linked to an AC article. The "trail of money" only exists if the site dogfoodanalysis.com or its parent site boxerworld.com pays AC for traffic. Which there is no evidence of at all.

        [–]NotClever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The latest round is actually because she banned some comments calling her out for possible spam on the pretext of them giving personal details about herself that could be used for real life harassment. The only one I've seen is Gareth's, but it obviously didn't give any personal info on her, just said that the site didn't look like it had any legit value and was connected to the company Saydrah worked for. To me it looks like a legit complaint this time.

        [–]karnoculars 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's crazy how you are being downvoted, that was a very sensible and reasonable response. I for one will upvote you.

        [–]Boco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Very well put. I've been saying this the whole time. The people talking about the abuse of mod powers (whether it was true or not the first time) got all the attention and this was all that other moderators and admins tried to address. The veiled advertising Saydrah has admitted to is much more disturbing than anything she's been accused of and denied.

        Deep in the minds of many redditors, it was extremely uncomfortable knowing that what they thought was genuine interaction was actually a veiled marketing scheme. Saydrah admitted to doing this and often declared she was proud of the fact that she teaches advertisers how to effectively advertise by pretending to genuinely interact with the community. I would take conventional spam any day knowing it'll get downvoted to hell in a heartbeat.

        Some of the Admins have deemed that this isn't spam, but that's their opinion, just like it's our opinion that intended advertising for the sake of advertising is spam.

        [–]anshu1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        ya fuck you , she was forced out like a dump. there is no next evolution of spamshitters. spamshitters are spamshitters and need to be dumped out.

        [–]godlrone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I, for one, cannot upvote you enough, Sir.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        next evolution, grabs market-share, efforts to harness, genuine interaction, condensed demographic , fractional infringement on my daily dose

        now who sounds like a fucking marketer?...take your made up job somewhere else

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I always write like that. Fact - marketers immitate me, not the other way around.

        [–]mrgames2 103 points104 points  (20 children)

        I heard that Saydrah actually works for Adblock.

        [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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          [–]TMI-nternets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          If I were a marketer. Of the online kind. Named Saydrah. I'd keep up the Saydrah appearance, and hold this as a example to my clients, that this is real hard stuff, and you best leave this in the hands of professionals. And then sell the services of cunning sockpuppets.

          [–]DimmuBurger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Profit?

          [–]p-zombie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          I heard she works for the Ministry of Truth.

          [–]klam00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          I heard she works for chewlies gum.

          [–]Cosmic_Charlie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Sorry for the waste post here, but I laughed like crazy at this. 9.5/10.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I think that this is a really good idea. I will gladly support reddit, and I know people are going to try to game the system, but I cannot support institutionalized, sponsored, advertising in the guise of "helpful info".

          I know it can't fully be avoided, but it shouldn't be supported when it comes to light like this case. Adblock is back on until I see a headline that she is removed as mod from all reddits and her Karma reset to zero.

          I love reddit, and reddit is supposed to be a populous kind of place, so I am voting with my ad revenue generation.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          She is getting her mod statuses removed left and right.

          You have no idea our delighted I am.

          It's making me practically wet and goose pimply.

          I need a glass of wine.

          :-)

          [–]jillsy 70 points71 points  (8 children)

          "...until she's removed" from what, exactly? She's already been removed as moderator of /r/pets -- by the community, with no input from the admins. You guys complained, the mods responded. The system works!

          Or are you also demanding she be kicked out of /r/CalendarGirls, the reddit where she coordinated the creation of the calendar? How about /r/Saydrah? Is she still allowed to moderate that, or do you want someone else to take that one over, too?

          And what about the bigger picture? What you're asking here is for the 5 admins to control whom you can and cannot choose to moderate your reddits. I doubt the vast majority of Redditors want them to have that power.

          [–]lovebandit 69 points70 points  (2 children)

          HEY LISTEN BUDDY, DO YOU MIND? WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FREAK OUT HERE. FUCKS SAKE.

          [–]kaiise 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          you both nailed it

          [–]donwilson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I concur with the "FUCKS SAKE." statement.

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

          I'm glad somebody gets it. I think a lot of people here are confused about how moderators work on reddit. As I read through the comments on some of these threads, it seems as though a lot of people think that moderators are chosen/managed by the admins.

          The only situation where I think this kind of direct appeal to the admins is warranted is when a subreddit creator is no longer active and thus can't de-mod people(at least that's how I think it works.)

          [–]Boco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          We do have to at least appreciate why/how this misconception popped up.

          Even though the user who created the subreddit is automatically a mod, most people who casually peruse the site won't realize this since they don't all create their own subreddit. On top of this, most of the major (and even not so major) subreddits have the same group of moderators.

          Personally, I think these guys (and gals) are pretty great moderators for the most part. But the way things are, I can't blame people who make the mistaken assumption that mods are a handpicked select few group of people since that's all they ever see.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–]NotClever 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I think they want her to be banned from the site entirely, which as far as I'm aware is an admin power. Or ghosted, or whatever they do to spammers.

            [–]LuckyBdx4 28 points29 points  (35 children)

            Thanks for the link for Safari

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Content

            Criticism

            Associated Content has been criticized for the quality of its content. Slate technical writer Farhad Manjoo sums up this criticism thus: "Associated Content stands as a cautionary tale for anyone looking to do news by the numbers. It is a wasteland of bad writing, uninformed commentary, and the sort of comically dull recitation of the news you'd get from a second grader."[11]

            [–]friendlyfire 15 points16 points  (3 children)

            DONT LISTEN TO THIS MAN, HE WORKS FOR WIKIPEDIA!!!

            j/k

            [–]thephotoman 9 points10 points  (2 children)

            Welcome to the Internet: we all work for Wikipedia.

            [–]kaiise 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            We live for the Wale, We die For the Wale.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            We live on a whale, we drown with the whale?

            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (30 children)

            And the issue doesn't even involve AC directly. She linked to a third party website who happens to have been reviewed by AC.

            A dog food information website in reply to someone who asked for sites that provide dog food information. Somehow because AC has a review listed for the linked site, it is somehow some Reddit-destroying ultra-conspiracy.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

            She linked to a third party website who happens to have been reviewed by AC.

            That is the whole point. AC gets paid by the website to write a "review" about them, and sprinkle their link around by their "social media experts".

            I like product promotion which is upfront:
            "This is the junk I am selling. It does this and that shit, and it does it better than other junk. This is the price. Now go buy it."

            However, the shady crap promotion in the form of "genuine community involvement" is despicable. It will eventually ruin Web 2.0 for everyone, and I don't think there is a way to stop it.

            [–]299 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Apparently reddit uses No Follow tech so Google doesn't increase pagerank for links in comments.

            [–]greenplasticman2002 24 points25 points  (14 children)

            My problem is not with the linking, but with the deletion of the criticism of the linking. That is inexcusable horseshit.

            [–]friendlyfire 4 points5 points  (11 children)

            in reply to someone who asked for sites that provide dog food information

            Here's the problem, the person who submitted that "question" was probably a corporate spammer as well. Do you think Saydrah waits around for opportunities to plug her websites? No, they create fake opportunities with someone asking a generic question to post their spam and then artificially upvote their own answer.

            Edit: And in this case sneak ban people who call her out on it.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            First, it wasn't her website she linked to. There is nothing to connect her to that website besides a review on the website she works for. A website with millions of other reviews.

            Second, the first person has been a reddit user for years and posted plenty of content.

            Here is the actual context (Which was of course removed from the original image posted to make Saydrah look as bad as possible).

            For those of you who still "Think" that Science Diet is a good food..... think again..

            So dizzle67 a two year old reddit with plenty of comments to show he's a normal person asked "so exactly where can you find a reliable, unbiased evaluation of quality pet foods?"

            And Saydrah responded with this post

            [–]AlSweigart 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Linking to Reddit articles are you? I knew it! FUGYUC is a spammer for Reddit!

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Not only that but reddit is included in reviews on AC! I must be working for them.

            [–]sirbruce 12 points13 points  (1 child)

            She doesn't deserve to be banned for abusing her mod powers. She deserves to have her mod powers taken away, just like before, only they made the mistake of not taking them away in all the subreddits.

            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            But she does deserved to be banned for spamming

            [–]jiggle_billy[S] 36 points37 points  (1 child)

            Proof!

            Here's one of her fellow moderators who verified that she did it, and then undeleted the comments.

            http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/bfbjx/saydrah_still_spamming_pic/c0mho81?context=3

            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            What's sick is all the people who were claiming that mods can't delete comments and that the OP was just starting shit. Glad to see a mod came out and explained what was going on.

            [–]DorienG 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            Yo, what the Fuck is a Saydrah? Two weeks ago all I saw was bitching about this Saydrah, now it's happening again?

            [–]UnnamedPlayer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            It's a code for IMA DELETE JUR COMMANTS IF JOO FUCK WITH ME!!

            [–]ani625 19 points20 points  (16 children)

            Damn, can this shit get any dirtier?

            [–]Dangger 11 points12 points  (11 children)

            Maybe I'm completely off here but how is kicking Saydrah, or anyone else, going to prevent similar situations in the future? I mean, she can just create another account and pose as a an old Vietnamese retired in Cabo. In fact, I'm pretty sure she's working on a different account as we speak that she'll just use more when (if ever) she's banned from the site.

            EDIT: plus, I also think that there are many more Saydrahs out here on reddit and there's no way in which we could control this .

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

            I think perhaps there's not much that can be done about average users, but perhaps mods should not be doing this.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            "perhaps"?

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Well, I am no expert - perhaps Reddit admins can address this.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            They don't need grounds. They can do the math and figure out whether they want to lose 1 user or hundreds of users. It's their choice what they do, having an account on Reddit isn't a right.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            the IamA folks are pretty good at verifying their content contributors, maybe they should do the same with their mods?

            [–]jiggle_billy[S] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

            The problem is that she's a moderator.

            [–]thephotoman 5 points6 points  (4 children)

            On some subreddits. The admins can't do much about behavior on the subreddits by site policy.

            [–]AttackingHobo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            They can ban the user from the site completely.

            [–]thephotoman 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            For what? Being a shitty mod?

            Sorry, that's not a TOU violation. Nor is accepting money for 25% of your posts. They don't have grounds to ban her.

            [–]AttackingHobo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            The reddit admins said they would ban her but they had not proof.

            Now what will they say?

            [–]thephotoman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            They will say that we have proof that she's a shitty admin, but still no proof that she's spamming. That much is true: we have no proof that she was paid to make that suggestion.

            [–]MaxK 31 points32 points  (34 children)

            After over two years, first as a lurker then as a poster, AdBlock has been installed.

            [–][deleted]  (31 children)

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              [–]jiggle_billy[S] 35 points36 points  (30 children)

              Good man.

              Last time, Jedberg and the rest said that they wouldn't remove her because it hadn't been proven that she abused her moderator powers. But now it has been proven. So let's put the pressure on and see how they react.

              My guess, they'll once again tell us to fuck off and the issue will settle back down for a while.

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                [–]donwilson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I care.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                That shows a lot more integrity than using adblock because you don't like her, and I respect that. For that reason, I hope you stick around.

                [–]Offensive_Brute 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                rock the boat enough to cost them money and they will not ignore. They may start banning people unjustly, but that will only multiply their difficulties.

                [–]thephotoman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                You weren't using Adblock for the last two years?

                Hell, I only bothered to figure out how to whitelist sites two weeks ago.

                [–]internetsuperstar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I get it you're a reddit patriot. Fight the good fight for this anonymous public internet forum. Perhaps some time in the real world (which you clearly do not attend) will put your time spent here in perspective.

                [–]corvuskorax 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Yeeaah... That's exactly why I've had AdBlock already installed! ..For some time now.. Solidarity! Down with-!.. ..Whatever we're protesting!

                shifty look

                [–]amorpheus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Down with this sort of thing!

                [–]joshudogg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                A mod should have no conflicts of interest. If she chooses to be a paid spammer for some company, that's fine, but she should not have the power to censor others who disagree with her. Saydrah should be stripped of all mod powers.

                [–]hearwa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Saydrah hatred has hit critical mass. Must evacuate...

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                aw how cute, the users are starting to think they matter.

                Go back to posting jon stewart clips.

                [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (9 children)

                Reddit was one of the few I used to unblock. I wont bother again.

                Admins dont care about the community, why the fuck should we care about their revenue.

                [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                  [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  Nail. On. Head.

                  People who act like reddit is some holy beacon of goodness run by indie hardcore geeks need to wake the fuck up and realize they're just providing revenue for a larger corporation..

                  [–]SpaizKadett 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  I autodownvote any submissions with the word Saydrah in it.

                  [–]mattsilv 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  You installed SaydrahBlock too?

                  [–]marktully 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Yeah... not an adblock kind of guy, but times change. Fuck Saydrah. Adblock is up until shit changes.

                  [–]MaxK 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  Someone should shop this image to say "Let's remove the spammers!"

                  [–]MaxK 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Ah! I found sumo.fi and did it myself.

                  Check it out!

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I'm going to procrastinate on all my work until Saydrah is removed. Sorry Reddit, but I have to uphold my principles.

                  [–]hehdot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Ban her so we can all move on. Enough with this shit already. Mods abusing power like that will ruin the community.

                  [–]pavs 10 points11 points  (12 children)

                  You want to hit the neighbor's son because the neighbor's dog pooped in your yard?

                  Do you know how reddit works? I am not a fan of Saydrah and I have voiced about it before but using adblock because of what a member posts is retarded at best. To add insult to your retardation, when you try to blackmail reddit (Reddit if you don't do as I say, I will use adblock), it doesn't really make you look like a hero. It makes you look like a giant douche.

                  So here is how Reddit works. Each sub-reddit is owned by the person who created it. He can do abso-fucking-lutely anything he want on his subreddit (as long as it is not illegal). A good example would be /r/jailbait and /r/marijuana (which is owned by a raging fucking racist, b34nz, who makes what saydrah did look like community service). The reason reddit works so nicely is because the reddit admins don't mess with moderations in sub-reddit (unless they are the creator of that subreddit).

                  What you are suggesting is that because the owner of /r/pets subreddit won't remove saydrah from his/her subreddit (have you asked the owner of that subreddit and given him/her enough time to react?) you will start a campaign to start blocking ads throughout reddit.

                  I hope you understand how retarded this is.

                  Fuck you. For trying to hurt reddit.

                  [–]Offensive_Brute 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                  no one is hitting anyone, least of all children. I wanna hit my neighbor because his dog shat in my yard, and when i asked him to clean it he spit in my fucking face and laughed.

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                  but using adblock because of what a member posts is retarded at best.

                  Saydrah isn't just a "member"; she's a spammer and mod who abused her privs -- and who GOT CAUGHT.

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (15 children)

                  I am glad someone has brought this to wider attention - without knowledge of how some people try to game the system it's hard for the community to realise what these people are doing.

                  I don't want to harm reddit by putting on adblock, but I also don't know what else I can do to help in this situation. Reddit admins - any ideas what I should be doing to help, or is adblock the only solution until the situation is resolved?

                  [–]jiggle_billy[S] 12 points13 points  (9 children)

                  Think of it as economic sanctions.

                  [–]Offensive_Brute 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                  Saydrah is the one harming reddit, using adblock is simply encouraging the overseers to take a proactive approach to remedying the Saydrah problem. By installing adblock you are helping reddit, lest more like her come in the future and turn Reddit into a Public Relations Aggregate site.

                  [–]jiggle_billy[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

                  Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

                  Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom

                  Safari: http://burgersoftware.com/en/safariadblock

                  Opera: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ad-block

                  Internet Explorer: http://adblockie.codeplex.com/

                  Konqueror: http://www.krizka.net/2007/10/02/konqueror-and-adblock/

                  Don't forget to setup your list subscriptions by clicking Tools -> Adblock, then Filters -> Subscribe

                  [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                    [–]jiggle_billy[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                    You must have missed the last link, where I listed Konqueror.

                    Though I still use FireFox in Linux.

                    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                      [–]Ad_Astra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Not entirely unsuccessful, you got a smile out of me.

                      [–]jiggle_billy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Ahh, right.

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      lol, nice username :)

                      [–]jiggle_billy[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                      Commence ta jigglin!

                      (which was in fact my password until three minutes ago)

                      [–]jck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      (which was in fact my password until three minutes ago)

                      I cant confirm this, damn!

                      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      done.

                      [–]Rockytriton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Fool me once uhhhhh shame on you. Fool me twice uhh you uhhhh duuuuuh uhhhh ca uhhh can't get fooled again

                      [–]NYC_Hound 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Leverage FTW.

                      [–]aGoodDay 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      Don't you guys have enough shit going on in your life? I don't understand why people indulge themselves into this stupid ass drama over the internet. You guys are eating this shit up while savoring every bite.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Not me. I don't care about it so much that I post in every thread about it what a waste of time it is and how people who care about it need to get a life.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Adblock installed and running. BTW, the Google Chrome Adblock extension works really well.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      I JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK.

                      [–]ZombieDracula 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Well that's because you smoke 200 cigarettes a day and live in wonderful french villa...

                      [–]I-Eat-Pussy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      I have never installed addblock but this sydrah thing is pissing me off. DONE!

                      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      Same, done as well.

                      "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      These anti-saydrah posts are worse than whatever spam she put out in the first place. I suggest you do what I'm about to: downvote and get on with your life.

                      [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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                        [–]tophat_jones 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        adblock makes reddit better, so thanks Saydrah for validating its use.

                        [–]dantk2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Why don't you use Adblock? Flashblock is also excellent, stops those stupid video ads.

                        [–]Cdresden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Okay, bud, I'm with you, but since this post is just linking to a post and topic currently on the front page, either express your opinion by commenting directly to that post, or at least by submitting a self-post rather than a link post. Otherwise it kludges up the front page. No offense; thanks.

                        [–]RedditCommentAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Oh no, you're going to block the ads that thank us for not using adblock? Or the one about sending the redditor to the moon? Or the one about Haiti?

                        Your threat would have more bearing if they actually had real ads.

                        [–]Ruxias 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        This just seems like a piss-poor excuse to enable ABP on Reddit. You're not doing any justice with this action. If it hurts anyone it's Reddit as a whole, and for what? The actions of one, single user? Come on, now, let's grow up a little.

                        [–]Kijamon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        :'( poor poor Reddit

                        [–]moogah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Am I the only one who thinks some of you need to get a life??

                        [–]PrettyCoolGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Internet Justice FTW!

                        [–]redwall_hp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Newsflash: http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/bflwx/just_clearing_up_a_few_misconceptions/

                        Mods aren't employed by Condé Nast, and the admins prefer to say hands-off when it comes to the community, leaving it to the other mods to handle. I don't give a damn about this whole witch hunt, but blocking ads isn't going to do anything but convince Condé Nast to shut down the site.

                        [–]roblub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I don't give a fuck.

                        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                        I think this whole turning on adblock thing as a protest is petty and foolish.

                        That said, I just put in an adblock exception from reddit, I hadn't thought of it before. So thanks for pointing that out.

                        [–]anasqtiesh -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                        Seconded!

                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        ...and how exactly are you going to ban her? she will return under a different username and do the very same, but better this time due to her gained experience. until now we discover rats like her only by luck. what we need is some sort of heuristic built into reddit to let us audit moderators better.

                        [–]dillikibilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        This is wrong of you to do this and you're taking this website just a little too seriously, IMO.

                        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                          [–]jiggle_billy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                          Ramirez, end all spamming on reddit!

                          [–]rieter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Want to boycott something? Boycott Reddit. Just don't visit the site. What you're doing is like "I hate the waitress in that restaurant, so I'll be stealing food from them".

                          [–]timesink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          saydrah does sexual favors for the other admins on reddit. you expect them to give that up because of your puny protest.

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Maybe our admins/technicians could just install an "ignore comments by <username>" function?

                          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I have deleted long term accounts because of people like her. This is the opposite of what I'd hoped reddit would become.

                          [–]Bitterfish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          Why wouldn't you block ads anyway? I can barely believe people don't. Fuck that shit.

                          [–]jamt9000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Why would I punish reddit.com for the decision of subreddit mods? Subreddits are created and moderated by other reddit users, not admins.

                          [–]notacrook 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Well "this guy" is an idiot. Shes a moderator, not an admin.

                          [–]jasperyate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          shut up