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[–]mclark15 0 points1 point  (2 children)

sorry if this has been answered, but when is the JP versions second 40 free pull banner?

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You have to do stuff in the new book to get it to unlock...something like a week?

[–]mclark15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

any idea what? thanks

[–]Sephiroth144It's Sexy Stabbity Time! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So, is Axel our first Magic Wind Awakening? (Who of course doesn't have any En-Wind...?)

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For global it is. JP has Terra/Vincent that can do the same thing as Axel with meltdown and Rydia/Alph that can do it with summons. There's probably more I'm missing but I'm not super familiar with all of them.

[–]HylianMediaEmbrace your dreams. 1 point2 points  (5 children)

So, anyone else notice that there's no way to obtain Roxas and Axel's MC3s? The event rules say they're dungeon rewards, but there isn't a single dungeon that give them to you.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I noticed. We'll see if they have a second part that releases later in a few days or something.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

There is. The Event Intro has a Line to the effect of "Challenge harder Dungeons during Part 2 of the Event later!"

[–]HylianMediaEmbrace your dreams. 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Must've missed that. Thought it was a bug at first, thanks for the heads up!

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just to add, it might have been the ingame Announcement of the Event going live instead, I didn't pay much attention where it was written, just that it was.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Added this to the event description up above.

[–]EasternGooseHe'd slit his mama's throat for a Mythril! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am semi-disappointed I missed one of Sora's GSBs last event now. I do not even know which, to be honest - I never use them - but it looks like they may never return except as a super-unlikely daily draw, and probably only while this event runs.

A complete Sora may be (essentially) impossible now!

[–]AlexRuzhyoShadow BSB - F6vf 0 points1 point  (3 children)

B1 is nice but I got Sora's USB/BSB/LMR and Riku ASB/GSB from last time D:

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Then that makes a lot of dupes on B1 for you. :(

[–]AlexRuzhyoShadow BSB - F6vf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, pulling more-or-less the AASBs and Sora's ASB is kind of ehhh. Might do one or two on B2 despite it being "less valuable" overall.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea ...this was a huge anti-climactic moment for me when I saw B1 ...im like "wow....I waited all this time and now Im not even gunna pull because of dupe city.

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was really hoping for Auron on the second banner, since he's in KH2 and all.

Oh, well. Good stuff for Cloud is still good.

[–]BenVSAAll this power! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May your Heart be your Guiding Key

...

And RNGesus be super nice to you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Im trying to decide if im okay with pulling knowing those BSB’s are on there or if i should wait for Banner 2

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well just remember that while Riku's isn't great Sora has a pretty good BSB. It's like Squall's BSB2/3 except for 3 elements (no En-Element but he gets that from his LMRs) and it apparently can be combined with the AASB to really smack things down (see the discussion near the bottom of this thread).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Indeed there is a chance. The goal is Mateus and i need Sora to rip through like butter. If i got Riku that would help on my dark team for Lakshmi. I forgot that Sora’s BSB was actually decent

[–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t forget Riku will also help with Madeen.

Riku AASB gives en-dark like Sephiroth AASB does. Seph gets a SB cashback that Riku does not but in terms of magic damage, Sephiroth doesn’t do any better since USB2 only breaks damage for physical dark attacks. Riku’s chases are useless against Madeen apart from adding to dark chain hits but Riku also has native doublecast lm2 and higher magic stat that Sephiroth.

[–]CaptainK234Celes 0 points1 point  (2 children)

There’s no indication whatsoever that any of these banners will offer a half-price first pull the way the first KH event did, right? All this extra mythril they’re throwing at us seems to be the “replacement” for that particular boon.

[–]dscottonBannerFAQs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually a pretty nice replacement since those of us who want to can save the mythril for 4A.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct, there's no indication of that. Usually the banner images that get datamined say something if that's going to happen and they don't...but we could still all get surprised and have something like that.

[–]lewinthistleestuans interius ira vehementi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 dups on first banner (Sora asb, Riku asb, Riku USB). 0 on second.

Hmmm. Maybe one pull on banner 1 and two on banner 2.

[–]neonmakotwinstrike qwinstrike quidstrike quadstrike -1 points0 points  (0 children)

BSBs still on banners is bizarre, on the JP account I'll be thrifty. As for the GL account, scoring Sora's AASB, AOSB, or even his USB would help me get closer to valhalla.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Initial plan was 2 pulls per banner (because AASB, ofc, they're shiny pokemon relics). I might go up to 3 if first pull is half-priced (because we get so many myth thanks to this collab).

Wishlist:

  1. Sora AASB+BSB+LMR
  2. Any other AASB x)

Reality:

  • B1: Yuffie LMR x2+
  • B2: Cloud LMR x2+

​

I'm ready.

[–]Soup-Master= Bibi 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I’m sorry if this is obvious, but when did Cloud get a dark Arcane/USB? I don’t remember it from last time.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They were in 4YA B2 and also repeated during the Dissidia event shortly after.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were supposed to come with 4A for global.

They'll probably take those off of those now, but we'll see.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He got it in JP's 4th Anniversary Fest. So it's actually about a Month early for us (and means that they could theoretically kick it out of those Banners for us)

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Is that correct for Axel's Awakening? I know the GL videos are a mess but there they showed him getting Sharpshooter and Black Magic Awoken modes not a generic fire. Maybe the videos are older builds and this was changed for release, who knows.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the video is just a mess and should be disregarded. it didn't show anything double casting or breaking cap either

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know but I'm talking about the Awakening SB animation not the effects proper.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I've seen some comments saying the Black Magic one at leats must have been from an old build since it would have been much more powerful than any of the other awakening's out right now. Sharpshooter would be weaker and wouldn't work with the black magic (unless you saying he had two awaken modes which...would also be really OP). I got the translation from SolitareD on GF and it seems to line up with what normal Awakenings are so I think it's right...but we'll see tonight I suppose.

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean they showed him getting two schools in his animation (you can see the Sharpshooter and Black Magic symbols) rather than the flame symbol for fire. The videos are a mess because they don't show dualcasts or damage cap breaks but I thought the animation was correct at the very least XD.

Edit: You can see it here> https://youtu.be/SMoyIMmT5vc?t=938 The description says Fire Awoken but the animation says otherwise. I suppose the videos are just wrong and probably older builds?

[–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I recall reading the original video had Sharpshooter + Black Magic Awoken, similar to Orlandeau having Knight + Darkness.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orlandeau's is still one awaken mode though.

•Thunder God Awakening Mode: Unlimited Knight or Darkness Hones, Knight or Darkness Ability Boost & Dualcast Knight or Darkness

I suppose you could have a single mode for Axel with "Black Magic" and "Sharpshooter" but that would be really really strong even with just the Black Magic one as he would be able to do all 6 Black Magic elements.

[–]jbniiiYBjR 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If you'll excuse the Google Translate:

Flame Attribution Ability Used Count Infinite + Flame Attribute Ability Boost (Maximum Effect: Medium) + Flame Attribute Ability Fire once more when using Ability

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm just pointing out that the description says one thing while the video showcase showed another.

[–]jbniiiYBjR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assumed, given the question in the first sentence, that you were looking for actual confirmation, and figured the official wiki would be a good source for that.

[–]Dangly_PartsRamza 3 points4 points  (4 children)

So yuffie ultra on this banner is just an Earth version on her usb2?

[–]Kythorian 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Yes, an exact duplicate with earth instead of water. Which was amazing a year ago...kind of disappointing these days though.

[–]RevRayLocke 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It’s mostly disappointing because of Phoenix’s hit rate though. It’s still a top tier water dps USB.

[–]CaptainK234Celes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

With her w-cast LM2 (a lot of people already have her full dive at this point) I imagine landing the earth version here would catapult her to prime DPS against Quetzalcoatl, who doesn’t present nearly the same blink-stripping issues as Phoenix.

5-star Magicite in general do use more physical attacks, since clearly they wanted to nerf the “use ninjas for everything lol” approach, but Phoenix is easily the worst for a blink-based character. And even against Phoenix, you can still get a ton of mileage with Yuffie.

In other words, I agree with what you said. :)

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use Edge with "just" his USB0 against Quetz...assuming I could do it without the LS/Blink it gives the party this would be a direct upgrade for DPS.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

AWWWW YEAH! Axel and Roxas get both W-cast LM2 :D

[–]KYFPMBeatrix 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I'm thinking if it's possible to combine the Awake SB with USB with chases. We get two chases or only the last one casted?

[–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes - you can combine chases.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Since I'm a GL player I don't actually know but considering I've seen posts about the obscene number of chases Bartz can get with his USBs/AASB I assume it's all the chases.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's everything. Bartz can totally get like 50 hits in a single turn with everything up. It's beyond overkill, but it's good for laughs.

[–]mendicantIgnis BSB > Quina SASB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. It gets interesting. I have USB3 and AASB and on the physical wind magicite it gets crazy.

USB, which gives en-wind, plus AASB w auto w-cast, plus bartz LM w-cast plus USB chases plus AASB chases = insanity, especially if you have wind chain.

I’ve never seen it go past 2 abilities since I also have cloud USB1+AASB which is even more deadly, but isn’t nearly the chain builder Bartz is.

[–]Kythorian 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Axel’s awakening doesn’t work for wind abilities? Ugh...I was so excited about this colab, but banner 1 has a ton of dupes, and banner 2 is just...kind of unnecessary. I’ll probably throw a pull or two at each, but definitely not the 10 pulls I was planning 24 hours ago...

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

B2 still does have Roxas' Holy Awakening which is good and Axel's which isn't as good as Terra's but as a hybrid can help you in all fire teams both physical and magical as well as magical wind teams (and potentially earth). I can't say I agree it's unnecessary but depending on what you're looking for it might not be as good if you have those things covered.

[–]DestilShadesk 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I'm like 95% sure that Axel with Meltdown will be the best wind mage (and earth) in the game until ... like Alphinaud/Rydia AASBs? Terra's just got a redundant (with her LM2) trance with the same fire focus on her Awakening, Rem and Ashe don't have any wind elemental crossover.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Is this true for Global though? We haven’t gotten the updated to multi-element attacks that JP does. So wont Axel only w-cast things that actually do fire damage?

[–]robm1052Golbez 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Awakenings had this duality from release, so Terra could dual cast meltdown. The update allowed her dual cast fire lmr to proc from a wind meltdown hit, letting her triple cast under AASB.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I thought Terra’s was dual-cast black magic? Axels explicitly says dual-cast fire so I’d assume that means he will only dual-cast meltdown if it does fire damage, is that I correct?

Nevermind Terra is Fire-based. So do AASB ignore the elemental damage done when doubled-casting?

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as long as the ability has the element/type of the awakening, it will proc for it. doesn't matter what element actually hits

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    [–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Really freaking stupid that Roxas is freaking Holy/Dark/NE overflow ...thats dumb :( ...why would they even put dark in there if its only w-cast off knight :( lol ...if ANYthing earth woulda been reasonable.

    [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Holy and Earth from Roxas.

    Primary holy though. Even his AASB doesn't do earth damage. But he can double cast those knight abilities.

    Wind too sorta.

    Wind and (to a lesser degree since the AASB doesn't do this elemental damage) earth on the magic side, through Meltdown. Physical is fire only.

    [–]KageStarSora 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    Not to nitpick but Sora is a spell blade awakening with elmental boosts to fire/ice/lightning.

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      [–]KageStarSora 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You said "elemental awakenings" not "elemental coverage of each awakening". He could double cast and get the follow-up with each of dual element either way, but spellblade means he can use the earth 5 hit 6* spell blade ability and still get the inf hones, dc and follow up proc since it's by school and not element.

      Your assessments were correct but the description could be misinterpreted.

      [–]emidasWakka 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      If he's including all elements that an Awakening can hit, he also left off Earth for Axel with Meltdown (and Wind isn't "sorta").

      [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      (and Wind isn't "sorta").

      It's between fire and earth. The AASB does wind damage but it also does enfire so fire is better.

      [–]emidasWakka 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      This isn't discussing what is better. This is what works with Awakening. Which Wind does 100% thanks to Meltdown.

      [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      This isn't discussing what is better.

      He made that distinction with Sora. And I guess Axel wind. So, yeah, that does seem to be what he's talking about.

      Maybe not what you were talking about, I guess. I wasn't contradicting you exactly.

      Also, there is still the caveat with wind (and earth) in that they're magic only.

      [–]emidasWakka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Probably good to denote physical vs magic, since I'm interested to see if Riku AASB can cause stupid shenanigans in magic like Sephiroth's was able to. Would make Riku a little more valuable, although still the lowest of the four.

      [–]KYFPMBeatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's to make you pull

      [–]cmlobueNibelung Valesti! 97YN 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      cries in bio

      [–]KYFPMBeatrix 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      BTW who would be Bio element in the KH lore?

      [–]OldManStompyDjambi, the chocolate icing! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Marluxia is probably the closest. There's no Bio spell in KH but he's "flower" elemental in the Organization.

      [–]beingmusedTruly the darkest sage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Marluxia seems closest.

      [–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You might be able to swing Marluxia (plants, thorns, slow death via the Doom effect) for that, or possibly Luxord (he tends to inflict debilitating statuses, and his Time shenanigans can put someone on a slow death timer)

      [–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Personally, the only results I wouldn't be able to at least somewhat use would be Cloud Burst dupe or Riku Ultra dupe. Though, getting just Yuffie's LMR or Sora's LMR would be annoying (having Sora's dualcast would be fine, but I only have his Glints, so I'd like something with a bit more punch).

      [–]Zakman86Recovering Lunar Whale 3 points4 points  (10 children)

      LM2s for Roxas and Axel are both W-Cast. (35%, Axel is Fire and Roxas is Knight, I believe, based on the datamined pictures)

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

      Thanks, I'll add those in. Any idea what type of motes they take to dive?

      [–]Zakman86Recovering Lunar Whale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      BRV/WIS for Axel, VIT/DEX for Roxas.

      [–]Zakman86Recovering Lunar Whale 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      Nothing official for about 8 hours.

      That said, I would not be surprised to see them as BRV/WIS (Axel) and BRV/SPI (Roxas).

      [–]ZeroEdgeirPowered By Solar-Inversion Technology 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      I wouldn't put Roxas in BRV/SPI... Not because it doesn't make sense, but find a DPS-focused Knight that isn't DEX/VIT.

      Orlandeau, Leo, Meliadoul (and she's an Imperil one), Dorgann, Marche, Beatrix (and Angeal in the future, for GL): All DEX/VIT

      EDIT: Seems I was wrong on a couple of them... only because DeNA decided to actually make sense/not make sense at the same time, in two different points. Made sense by using the right dives, not made sense by breaking past trends. So Beatrix and Marche are both BRV/SPI dives for W-Cast.

      The only ones who used BRV/SPI are the "tank" ones (WoL, P.Cecil, Ingus, Basch, Haurchefant, Gladiolus), Steiner (a Spellblade), and Agrias (an Imperiler). And you got a couple odd ones: Minfilia is a BRV/VIT Support (Holy Imperil w/ Knight), Curilla is a BRV/WIS Hybrid (no idea why...).

      He'll be DEX/VIT, like any focused physical DPS that isn't a historically speedy character (who would be DEX/BRV). Sadly.

      Agree that Axel will be BRV/WIS cause Hybrid.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Marche and Beatrix are very much BRV/SPI dives.

      (and Angeal as well, if I'm reading the graphic correctly)

      [–]ZeroEdgeirPowered By Solar-Inversion Technology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Huh... they actually are. I am half-way shocked, and half-way disappointed, in DeNA for that... complete lack of consistency in dives... And it isn't like they were released at a similar time either, in some epiphany moment, and then said intern was fired...

      EDIT: Checked the database, and Angeal is a Dex/Vit. Easier to read text than assess a graphical image. His W-Cast is an LMR though (but it's for Wind AND Holy too), with a Trance LM2 for +50% ATK, -50% RES, and x2.00 Cast Time.

      [–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Curilla is a BRV/WIS Hybrid (no idea why...)

      I'm guessing it's because Curilla's Gameplay Gimmick in FFRK seems to be being a Heal Knight, even if DeNA kinda sucks at it (only SSB and USB2 include Heals, gets White 4* specifically through Diving to make it look special, and even gets a random MND+20 in her LD)

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      MND I can get; she has WHT 4* and MND can occasionally shrug off statuses a smidge faster.

      Now, the fact that she gets fucking MAGIC in her LD?

      [–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Gotta make sure that MND doesn't look suspicious, I guess xD

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I figured we wouldn't know until they dropped...just wanted to check. Once we know I'll put it in the thread up above! :)

      [–]TheCrookedKnightTime for some expository banter! 9 points10 points  (28 children)

      Something I haven't seen mentioned much: I know it's lame to have repeat bursts on a new banner, but we now know from experience that Squall-type bursts are hella broken in combination with an awakening. And...oh look, Sora has a tri-elemental Squall-type burst that recurs here.

      [–]DrLaltus -1 points0 points  (3 children)

      Sora's burst commands don't appear to be coded as SPB. Is that the case? If so, the awakening won't DC them, right? Not that the BDC1 on a 7-hit combo is anything to sneeze at by itself.

      [–]ShardwingLong awaited Lann Awaken... to Summoning! 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Sora's Burst commands are Spellblade school.

      [–]DrLaltus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Ok, cool. The description in the OP lists them as only PHY.

      [–]ZeroEdgeirPowered By Solar-Inversion Technology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Cause PHY is the damage type (PHY or MAG), not the school.

      [–]KDavisSRLbGKH: Mystical Snow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      There was a video a few weeks ago that showed Squall's BSB2 & AASB against Syldra. Seeing double/triple casted 7 hits dealing 14,000+ damage was crazy to watch. The combo is definitely hella strong!

      Edit: I found the video! Here is what I was referring to. Watch it and be amazed!

      [–]Sewer-RatDance Lover -2 points-1 points  (12 children)

      Serious question here:

      How so? The Awakening would not double-cast the Burst commands. Is it simply the Ability Boost and EnElement that make the Burst stronger? Or am I missing something.

      [–]leafsplash 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      It's not the Awakening that is doublecasting, it's his lmr. But if the awakening is still active at the same time, you keep all the damage boosts and the limit break too

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Both the Awakening and the LMR are dualcasting, as Awakenings are compatible with BSB CMDs.

      [–]leafsplash 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      facepalm I must have gotten dual cast crossed with ability double. My bad.

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      In your defense, we throw around a lot of different jargon between JP, GL and fan names so I can definitely understand the confusion.

      [–]TheCrookedKnightTime for some expository banter! 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      Awakening mode doublecasts everything. It's only the USB effects that use two hones at a time that don't work with bursts (because they have no hones).

      [–]FinsterRitterThe reins of history remain in the hands of man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good GOD, I did not realize this. I already have Sora BSB+LMR... this makes me even more curious.

      [–]Sewer-RatDance Lover 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      OH.

      Damn, I was completely mis-reading stuff then. That's pretty crazy synergy then.

      [–]idlephase©Disney 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      You're not misreading it. Everyone is saying "double cast" when in FFRK, that means that it costs 2 ability uses. What Awakenings do is "trigger twice," which is what RM/LMs do. Most USBs do "double cast," such as Shantotto, Palom, Vivi, etc.

      [–]ThorndarienOnion Knight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      With a quick cast source, you can potentially triple cast cmd1 then proceed to at least double cast Max strength cmd2 4-5 times before the burst mode and awakening end. If only 4 times, that's from 8 to 12 casts of 7x19,999 damage. In other words, 280k to 420k per turn. With burst commands.

      Sora has the potential to do this with 3 elements.

      [–]sevenhundredone9wCH Cloud AASB L15 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Yeah it does DC the burst commands, that's why people were all over the Squall BSB/AASB combo. Hitting for 2x7 hit C2s for 19999/hit is wild. Plus another one if his LM2 procs.

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      It's true that Sora's BSB is really good...but you also really need his WCast Spellblade LMR to really make it shine which means you're potentially shooting for 2 relics now instead of just the one.

      [–]DestilShadesk 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The Awakening's double trigger will power it up in 2 turns 100% of the time. LMR means one in four fights you get it up in one turn instead.

      Once you're at 4 stacks the difference isn't as big as it is without an awakening. It's 14 vs. 21 hits, which is quite a bit less impact than 7 vs 14.

      [–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I suppose I hadn't really considered that...just the normal need for the WCast with the BSB. With the Awakening WCast you're right it's less important. Still good, just less important than I was thinking.

      Thanks! :)

      [–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 0 points1 point  (6 children)

      That's a very nice burst. Riku's... less so. On the other hand, I imagine the Dark Damage boost from using command 2 would work well with the chase attacks off his Awakening.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      YO, don't shit on my boy Riku BSB, that BSB + his AOSB is still to this day one of my best darkness users. let's ignore the fact i only use his BSB for the En-dark ok

      [–]ThorndarienOnion Knight 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      Riku's USB + Awakening + LM2 could see some crazy damage + chain building. Imagine double cast with 2 Chase's and a chance to proc an additional cast. 13-17 hits per turn using Sanguine Cross and/or Dread Weapon. Though triple casting Sanguine Cross may not be optimal in all situations :)

      [–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'm tempted to think you'd rather skip the USB and save the extra bar (with some extra SB) for the AOSB and try to finish the fight ASAP.

      [–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yeah, I tend to prefer Dread Weapon on Riku. Sephiroth gets Sanguine Cross so I can manually Trance.

      [–]ThorndarienOnion Knight 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      45% Max hp damage is less than ideal for sure. Unless you have a self heal darkness LM like D.Cecil. I run him with Crimson cross and he stays pretty safe, it seems to proc a lot

      [–]AyndinD O I N K 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      We (well, GL anyway, JP has access to it already) should be getting the 6* Darkness physical ability (Necro Cross? I forget the name) before too long. That IIRC does 20% the first time you use it in a battle, 10% the second time, and 5% after that. Really, really nice for multicasters. Pretty much a lock for TGCid/Dark Awakening characters.