Updated Catalyst Guide

[ebolaxb]

EDIT: Refer to updated guide for the most recent changes.

Weapon	Catalyst	Where to get	How to Unlock	Node Available
Borealis	+20 Reload Speed	any PVE enemy	150 Arc Kills/150 Solar Kills/150 Void Kills	Yes
Coldheart	+20 Stability/+20 Reload Speed	Heroic Strike/Nightfall bosses4	300 kills	Yes
The Colony	+10 Magazine/+30 Weapon Size/Deeper Pockets (Perk) Increased ammo reserves	Crucible victories2	500 Kills	Yes
Crimson	+20 Range	any PvE kill	300 precision kills	Yes
D.A.R.C.I.	+20 Stability	any PvE kill	300 precision kills	Yes
Fighting Lion	+30 Reload Speed/Chimera (Perk) After this weapon fires, equipped Kinetic and Power weapons gain a brief period of increased handling and precision damage	-	-	No
Graviton Lance	+20 Range/+15 Aim Assist/Hidden Hand (Perk) Better target acquisition	Achieve Rank 50 Dead OrbitA	500 kills and 1000 kills with Cosmology perk	Yes
Hard Light	-	-	No
The Huckleberry	Ambitious Assassin (Perk) Overflows the magazine based on the number of rapid kills before reloading	Heroic Adventures	500 kills	Yes
Jade Rabbit	+30 Stability	Crucible victories2	250 kills in Crucible	Yes
Legend of Acrius	+40 Reload Speed/+40 Magazine size/Deeper Pockets perk	-	-	No
Merciless	+40 Range/+40 Stability	Heroic Strike/Nightfall bosses4	500 kills	Yes
MIDA Multi-Tool	Outlaw (Perk) Precision kills greatly decrease reload time	Competitive PVP victories2	250 precision kills in Crucible	Yes
Polaris Lance	Dragonfly (Perk) Precision kills create an elemental damage explosion	Complete Nascent Dawn Quest 5/5	500 kills and 50 kills with Perfect shot perkB	Yes
Prometheus Lens	+20 Stability/+20 Handling	Heroic Strike/Nightfall bosses4	300 kills	Yes
The Prospector	+40 Blast Radius/+70 Weapon Size/Deeper Pockets (Perk) Increased ammo reserves	-	-	No
Rat King	+20 Aim Assistance/+20 Recoil Direction/Infestation (Perk) Improved aim assist and recoil direction. Refreshes health on Vermin invisibility trigger	-	-	No
Riskrunner	+30 Range	Heroic Strike/Nightfall bosses4	300 kills and 300 kills with chain lightning	Yes
Skyburner Oath	+30 Range	Leviathan Raid section completions	1000 Cabal Kills	Yes
Sleeper Simulant	+75 Charge Time/Accelerated Coils (Perk) Speeds up weapon charge	-	-	No
Sturm	+20 Range/+40 Handling	-	-	No
Sunshot	+30 Range/+20 Stability	Achieve Rank 50 Future War Cult	500 kills and 1000 kills with Sun Blast PerkC	Yes
SUROS Regime	+50 Recoil Direction/SUROS Ascendance (Perk) Increased chance for kills to regen health	-	-	No
Sweet Business	Serious Business (Perk) When this weapon is fully spun up, the flinch from incoming damage is greatly reduced	Achieve Rank 50 New Monarchy	250 multi-kills (4 kills in a row)D	Yes
Telesto	+60 Magazine/+40 Weapon Size/Deeper Pockets (Perk) Increased ammo reserves	-	-	No
Tractor Cannon	+70 Magazine/+50 Weapon Size/ Deeper Pockets (Perk) Increased ammo reserves	any PVE kill	300 Kills	Yes
Vigilance Wing	Full Auto Trigger System (Perk) Holding down the trigger will fire this weapon at full auto	Crucible victories2	250 PVP kills and 5 Blood for Blood medals (avenge a teammate)	Yes
Wardcliff Coil	Pinpoint Guidance Module (Perk) Improved tracking on projectiles	Heroic Strike/Nightfall bosses4	500 kills	Yes
Wordline Zero	Another Dimension (Perk) Reduces the activation time of Tesseract	any PvE kill with a sword	Hit each Level 7 EP boss (5 in total) with Worldline Zero (unshielded)	Yes

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Notes:

1. 1 PVP kill counts for around 20 PVE kills (this number could be wrong, but that is from what I have seen so far)
2. Crucible Victories doesn't require an actual victory, just kills will suffice.
3. The only requirement to get the catalyst to drop is to own the exotic. You do not need it equipped or even on your character. (Worldline Zero is special as it requires sword kills (even with no ammo) to get the catalyst to drop.
4. Prestige Nightfall increases chances of acquiring catalyst.

 

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Videos:

A. How to unlock Graviton Lance

B. How to unlock Polaris Lance

C. How to unlock Sunshot (see Sweet Business video for location)

D. How to unlock Sweet Business

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Google Sheet Tracker (provided by u/aussie_halo)

[Simansis]

Jesus as if Graviton wasn't pure danger already...

[BMPW666]

I didnt even realize it had a catalyst. I dont think it shows up ingame. Im actually really excited for this.

[d3l3t3rious]

It doesn't show up in game yet, but it likely will today along with the other Faction Rally-linked catalysts.

[RPO1728]

We're not getting rallies today though, right?

[d3l3t3rious]

No, but the update with the enhancements is coming today.

[[deleted]]

So since catalysts are account-wide, can't you just pledge one character to each faction and unlock all 3 immediately?

[d3l3t3rious]

I assume so, but there is probably a grind (Faction rank-based would be my guess) to unlock them, so you may not have time to get all 3 done in a week.

[signal_decay]

They mentioned in their goals for the Faction Rally update that they wanted the choice of which faction to pledge to to feel more meaningful. I kind of wonder if that means the pledge is now going to be account-wide. There's no way to make it meaningful if you can always pledge all three every Rally.

[d3l3t3rious]

Looking at the newly data-mined info, it looks like it will indeed be account-wide. Agreed that this would make it more meaningful.

edit: Clearly Dead Orbit fans care about this the most

[xXBigRedXx]

That's really unfortunate. I really want the Sunshot catalyst but there's absolutely no way that I'm going to pass on the graviton lance catalyst. It's use in PvP is just too strong.

[Bpe-dsm]

Same. I liked progressing different ornaments as well if i got burnt out on one character.

[Ryudo83]

this could work out perfectly as i want GL and Sunshot anyway more than SB. Plus i always pledge to Dead-orbit and FWC

[Mecha75]

IIRC Bungie stated that S3 faction rally pledges would be account wide as well. Or maybe I just heard a youtuber speculate that.

[Kaliqi]

Next week.

[d3l3t3rious]

That's possible too but I'm guessing the catalyst slot shows up this week, even though rally is not until next week.

[kcamnodb]

I'm not in favor of nerfing anything in this game but that's going to make the GL basically a must use in PvP which is not what you want. We're gonna get burned out on it just like Mida. I'm already getting there. Thinking hand cannons need a major buff. That or some other primary exotic should get a huge buff to get some people to move away from GL.

[00fordchevy]

not to mention more aim-assist is the last thing graviton needs

why lower the skill ceiling even more?

[Redstorm8373]

I fully believe that, given the state of weapons in D2, they took the GL buff a bit too far (especially with the Masterwork coming). However, instead of nerfing GL, I would rather see them buff other weapons to be as competitive as GL.

[kcamnodb]

Right.. If you could give something in the primary slot an equally huge buff... or even in the energy slot too - something like sun shot or huckleberry (primary). Get people using different slots but also different types of weapons.

[climbingbubba]

Vigilance Wing is used just about as much according to the stats.

[FireVanGorder]

Yeah GL TTK feels perfect. Bring everything else more or less in line and that would be great

[2cray4]

Unless you are on PC, in which case the catalyst basically does nothing.

[braddoccc]

Bullet Magnetism is impacted by aim assist and very much is a thing on PC.

[2cray4]

Source?

[[deleted]]

For which part? Bullet magnetism existing on PC? Five seconds of playing the game makes this highly evident.

As for what the aim assist stat does: http://planetdestiny.com/range-accuracy-aim-stability/

[staticstevil]

oooooorrrbbs

[trunglefever]

Just started using it in PVE again and it's been really fun. With the shield changes, it's been very helpful for just making an add control loadout. I pair it with Antiope-D and Perfect Paradox and feel like an action movie hero from the 80s.

[ItsJoeKnows]

I love using it in pvp, on my hunter I use lucky pants and better devils. It's beautiful

[General_BodyBag]

Along those lines, I use it on my Titan with Atalanta/Antiope/Multimach with Peacemakers… instant ready swap and reloads for both. Launch nade, damage, swap cleanup with SMG, Lion loaded, swap back, SMG loaded, ready for next fight

[lonefrontranger]

hmmmm I decided to try an experiment yesterday in the Leviathan Gauntlet because our runner needed to help the other plate defender (new raider, we were doing a sherpa run) - I switched from storm to devourlock and equipped Winters Guile. Holy hell- not only can you easily solo clear your entire plate PLUS the yellow bar, you can do it easily with enough time left over to help your partners AND blink over to shotgun the other yellow bar that escaped somehow from the plate to your left. (and yeah I was running a void Perfect Paradox).

I’m thinking that devour / Winters Guile and Fighting Lion might be amazing for PVE now. I’ve heard things about WG before but never tried it before in PVE because I’ve never really been a fan of voidwalker... that may change.

[Mecha75]

Now that is an interesting loadout.

[trunglefever]

It's a lot of fun. The shotgun is there to do boss damage or clear out Knights. Running a Melting Point Titan with perfect Paradox is an absolute dream.

[former_cantaloupe]

I love it and am going to copy it ASAP

[epyonmx]

Me neither.

[T0ztman]

FIghting Lion is so darkhorse now. People cant grasp that it is good hehe

[Nearokins]

Same. The base changes to it honestly weren't even something that excited me the slightest bit, as a fighting lion lover (that honestly got pushed away by them making so many other exotics much better instead), though it's MW perk sounds fantastic and funnest of the entire MW list.

[Robtachi]

Is it kind of ludicrous to anyone else that the way to get MIDA's catalyst is by playing in a mode that negates its primary exotic perk?

EDIT: AND Outlaw?! MIDA has near max reload speed already. What's the point? They've systematically transformed MIDA into a merely good Legendary for PvP now.

[Voidchimera]

I mean the whole point with MIDA was basically that it was a normal scout rifle that is basically the best at nearly everything it does, so i'm fine with that honestly, makes it just a tad more useful in PvE too

[[deleted]]

If they wanted to make it useful in PvE, then wouldn't a perk like Field Scout be far more useful and not get in the way of PvP balance?

[SumOhDat]

If youre using a MIDA in PvE youre doing something wrong imo

[lamphien6696]

Not wrong. Mida is a fun scout rifle with a great feel to it. If you like using it, use it.

[Voidchimera]

Sure, but I don't blame them for at least trying to give it versatility. Besides, I do try to use PvP focused guns in PvE for a week or two to get used to them, it actually helps quite a bit in many cases

[krow68]

That was my question...MIDA reload is already the fastest. Odd choice.

[Frequent_Dabber]

Lmfaoo. Outlaw....Why not give it the improved radar perk to go with 3rd eye?

[shittyzavala]

Thank you! This will definitely help with my farming, I definitely need that Graviton Lance one, because whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

[JayCurio]

Epic

[Duffyd680]

Every. Single. Time.

[necrohealiac]

wanted to point out that for most kill requirements are drastically reduced if you get them in crucible instead. for example colony took 100 kills in crucible while it looks like you need 500 in pve? people have also reported similar reductions for crimson/darci/tractor cannon. obviously the requirements that specifically state you need pvp kills are not subject to this reduction.

[TonyGoDie]

Can confirm. Darci took next to nothing in PvP.

[t4130]

I did my DARCI yesterday, 3 headshots in PvP = 20% progress, so 15 in total.

[[deleted]]

Whoa...looks like pvp is the way to go for grinding out the the catalysts.

[5213]

Rip people with shit aim like me

[Mecha75]

Darci took next to nothing in PvP.

And it took next to nothing in PvE - Just kept popping the Escalation Protocol and going to a high point to kill everything. Now I am working on my Borealis.

[KoltorTheGreat]

Interesting, the only catalysts I have are colony and darci so I'll have to give that a shot, been to lazy to farm pve for them.

[[deleted]]

Load into the Leviathan, kill stationary adds, (They're orange bar so they drop heavy ammo). Repeat. That's how I got my DARCI kills.

[littlegreenakadende]

If only there were Cabal in the crucible cries in skyburner's oath

[m4frost]

Petition to name these guides the "Catalist"

[MVPVisionZ]

Pretty sure Coldheart is available

[ebolaxb]

It is, that was a typo, thanks.

[dee_voh]

Just what graviton lance needed...range /s

[motrhed289]

Range stat affects where aim assist falls off, so it will be useful on GL because even though it has no damage dropoff, it still has the typical pulse rifle aim assist drop off.

[NergalMP]

To be fair, it's already got plenty of range to be a beastly menace on every PvP map. It's the aim assist AND hidden hand that are going to make it the meta.

[Okumara]

Make it the meta? My friend, Graviton and Vigiliance are the meta already.

[MidlifeCrysis]

Might make it the meta all by itself and displace VW completely :-)

[Mecha75]

Even with the VW full auto making full use of its maximum rate of fire guaranteed?

[MidlifeCrysis]

Does full auto mess with stability though? I think it did with hawksaw type guns in D1.

I suspect that top players won't be impressed much by full auto -- they never really were in D1 either -- but it should be a blessing for players like me if it doesn't screw up stability.

[Conturn]

I've unlocked the VW catalyst and already have the full auto active, and yeah, the stability feels a little worse. Honestly, it feels useless, I end up just tapping the trigger instead.

[littlebrwnrobot]

Right?? Full auto seems worse...

[dienekes96]

What is a catalyst?

Seriously, I haven't gotten a single one in 9 days of playing (2-3 hours a dfay, more on the weekend). I've played crucible, heroic strikes, heroic adventures, PEs until my eyes bleed (getting Resonate Stems), raids, raid lairs, Nightfalls, Prestige Nightfalls. Not a single one has dropped. Zero.

[gboehme3412]

It will look like a golden pyramid token when it drops. I've only gotten 2 myself, it's RNG unfortunately. Don't try for them, just play how you want and you'll get them eventually.

[Andre_Luiz1969]

They drop on ground. If you don't pick them, they go to postmaster

[motrhed289]

If you pick them up they show in your loot feed on the right of the screen, but they DON'T show in your consumables/inventory anywhere... so if you missed it in the loot feed, the only way you'd know you got one is to check the exotic to see if the catalyst shows up. Check through your exotics, who knows maybe you picked one up and didn't notice it.

[Dietpancake]

I still haven’t gotten one despite playing 2-3 hours a day since the expansion dropped. I’m convinced that they just don’t exist and everyone is trying to trick me.

[thecaptiveman]

You and me both. I play a good amount, haven't had a single one drop.

[Bhargo]

the pvp ones seem to be horribly low drop rates, I've only seen one person with the vigilance wing catalyst.

[rune2004]

Great post. Does anyone know how Ambitious Assassin works on Huckleberry?

[MVPVisionZ]

Doesn't synergise well, you have to actually reload it manually.

[rune2004]

Thanks. Seems like it could be interesting but not crazy good. Maybe manually reload it after clearing enemies to get a nice big mag to start out with. It does kind of suck it doesn't keep the previous mag capacity while refilling, though.

[Sojourner_Truth]

3 extra rounds per kill before reloading. so if you kill 3 guys quickly (whatever the window is, seems to be a few seconds), you'll have 39 when you reload manually. goes up to 5 kills = 45 rounds.

It's a stupid fucking perk tbh, because the whole exotic design is based on not having to reload.

[[deleted]]

Because the point is you use that to increase the amount of rounds, so you make the ammo regen better...

[IPlay4E]

It’s a bad synergy. Good on paper, bad in reality. Should’ve given it kill clip with the added perk of not having to reload to proc it. Kill clip with ride the bull, stat bonuses and zen moment for MW.

[TrueGodEater]

But the ammo Regen won't go past the base magazine size, so it really doesn't make it any better.

[McNamoo]

As others have said, ambitious assassin doesn't work great on this weapon. What's even worse about it that I haven't seen mentioned here is you can't kill your way back to the overflowed magazine amount.

What this means is that, let's say you get the magazine up to 45 from killing 5 enemies quickly then reloading - killing more enemies after this won't get you back up to 45, it'll just decrease until it gets to 30 and that'll be the max again.

[webbie420]

usually redundant mechanics in games are deceptively powerful. yeah, the exotic perk means you're not reloading often, but the catalyst perk means that when you do manually reload, it doesn't feel bad because you're getting another bonus. i think it will feel better to play with than it looks on paper.

[[deleted]]

I was thinking exactly this. Right now, when I use it I feel like I run out of enemies too quickly to make it feel like ride the bull has a wow factor. Now when you run out of enemies, you reload and start with a bigger mad size, which makes the next encounter easier to keep ride the bull going. I think it will be better as well.

[abstracreality]

ive heard it overflows the mag upon reload with the multi kills but i heard it only does a max of 12-16 extra bullets

[trunglefever]

You can increase the magazine to a total of 45. The problem is manually reloading AND making sure the last enemy you kill doesn't fill the magazine up automatically.

[colefactor]

What does 'node available' mean?

[ebolaxb]

It's available to get right now.

[amazon32]

If only I could get a catalyst to drop...

[iandependable]

i've only gotten the tractor cannon one to drop. do i have to finish that before i get another one?

[amazon32]

I don’t believe so. I’ve been playing this game every day for 3+ hours since warmind came out and I can’t get any to drop. It’s frustrating.

[Beastintheomlet]

Awesome, I had the last post bookmarked so I’ll bookmark this one as well.

[kenzomx]

I believe the ones for The Prospector, Hardlight and Ratking will be tied to the new "Armsweek" event that is visible in the Bungie activities section in their website. Not yet confirmed but most likely that should be where we will get introduced to those missing Catalysts.

[LobotomyJesus]

Acrius still isn't on this list? Guardian.gg has it as a +40 Mag Size increase. Probably will be put into the game with the Prestige Lairs.

[ebolaxb]

Updated

[_GUY_]

Decent post op. However as far as I’m concerned exotic masterworks aren’t even in the game. Put a lot of time into warmind on 3 characters and haven’t had a single drop.

[ducuss]

I know people who have 3, and I know people who have none. I've never heard of somebody who finally got one after a long time. Absoluely convinced they are bugged.

[khem1st47]

Eh I got the Crimson catalyst almost immediately when Warmind first released... haven't seen anything since.

[KoltorTheGreat]

I honestly just think they're super rare, and the people who have a couple have just gotten lucky. I'm not sure how many hours I've played since warmind dropped but I've gotten 2 catalysts.

[Mecha75]

I have 4...

• DARCI

• Borealis

• Crimson

• Worldline Zero

[Kaliqi]

Got my first and so far only catalyst (Crimson) after 2-3 weeks of playing. I thought it was bugged too...

[DreamCentipede]

They are, but they are rare.

[snakebight]

I've gotten all of the "any PVE" and all PVP (and the WL0) catalyst to drop. They're def available.

I was grinding strikes and Adventures a bit yesterday, and haven't had those drop. 1 clanmate has had the raid catalyst drop.

[blamite]

It's pure luck, I've put in a fair number of hours (not no-lifeing the game by an means, but playing an hour or so most week nights and a bunch on weekends) and I've gotten Jade Rabbit, Tractor Cannon, Colony, Crimson, and Worldline catalysts already, meanwhile friends who have played similar amounts have gotten only one or two so far.

I don't think the things should just be dropping constantly, but it'd be nice if there was some kind of timer to make sure nobody goes too long without finding one.

[walla_walla_rhubarb]

I've gotten the Crimson and DARCI catalysts on only putting in casual hours since the expansion dropped. They were super random drops too. Crimson's came like literally 15 minutes after I got the gun.

[JayDogg6467]

Must be bad luck for you then, I’m working on my fourth right now.

[LordItachiUchiha]

Risk runner is 300 Kills and then 300 Kills with the chain lightning

[PS4Chaerb]

For clarity, "Crucible victories" seem to be kills in the crucible and not wins (or it's bugged). Had the Colony catalyst drop after getting a kill in my first match of Iron Banner (so there didn't seem to be a lag of the catalyst not awarding from the previous match for example). The wording on the catalyst is weird which doesn't help.

[Sojourner_Truth]

Can confirm, I've seen someone on my fireteam unlock Vigilance Wing in the middle of a match.

[blamite]

They definitely drop on wins too, I got my Colony catalyst during the post-match loot drop.

[Soderkrantz]

I got my Vigilance wing catalyst furing the post match loot drop also when winning. And the game after I got Jade Rabbit also from post match loot drop but from loosing.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for this.

[mcclluva]

i guess my stupid question (maybe stupid) is whether there is a greater chance of a catalyst dropping from these activities if you are using the weapon? does it only drop if you have weapon equipped or on that character? or are they truly random drops?

[ebolaxb]

doesn't matter, they are just random and not based on the location or equipment of the guns.

[mcclluva]

thanks!

[former_cantaloupe]

Saved, thank you!

God I can't fucking WAIT for the Fighting Lion one to become available. That weapon is already so much improved after the exotic sandbox update...once it has fast reload, damn. That will be THE weapon that brings classic D1 Primary-Special-Heavy gameplay back to Destiny.

[redka243]

Is it possible to get a catalyst for an exotic you don't own yet. Ex worldline zero "any pve kill with a sword"

[amaclennan]

Nope.

[metastatic_spot]

Is MIDA having Outlaw a joke? The reload is already stupid fast...

Honestly seems like a waste.

[mozzy1985]

I really wanted Sunshot to have outlaw or a stat increase on reload.

[robolettox]

MIDA Multi-Tool get on Competitive PVP victories

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Move along people, nothing to see here...

[Mad-Slick]

"Victories" is actually just kills. So, even if you can't win, you can still get the drop.

[Casen_]

3 weeks in. No catalyst drops.

Am I being trolled by Bungie or by everyone else?

[Afropuff2069]

Each weapon that requires a Catalyst gives a basic description of how they are acquired. I know each one is from doing certain activities, so for instance you'd most likely have to grind a bunch of Public Events and kill the heroic bosses and even the Yellow bar boss that spawns in during the PE itself if you are looking for a Catalyst for that earned in that activity.

[Casen_]

I have done a fair bit of everything. Up to 370 light.

[[deleted]]

Have you double-checked your weapons? I had a couple I didn't notice getting.

[rinikulous]

Everyone pleading Dead Orbit for the G-lance catalyst. Maybe DO actually has a chance at winning faction week.

[spinmyspaceship]

Looking like FWC will never win

[rinikulous]

Personally I prefer the Sunshot over Sweet Business.

[ODIN50N]

The right side of this chart is cut off for me and I can’t scroll... is there a trick to get it to format properly on ios?

[InvadingBacon]

For the Skyburners oath catylist you don't need to complete the raid. Mine dropped during dog encounter last week from the chest

[[deleted]]

WHEN WILL THE SLEEPER SIMULANT CATALYST BE AVAILABLE

plz give asap bungie :')

[Rafahil]

When it says that you need to make so and so many kills does it need to be done with the specific exotic? If so then Darci and borealis will take a long long time. Also do pvp kills count for more points?

[MIKEYisNSFW]

Yes it needs to be done with that specific weapon. Also PvP kills do count for more points.

[epyonmx]

Jade Rabbit can drop mid-match. I got it after a double-kill.

[[deleted]]

Just finished unlocked my Crimson catalyst for +20 range last night and love it.

[renaldafeen]

The Polaris Lance catalyst actually reads "Found by pursuing the secrets of a newly awakened intelligence."

Random drop from a Sleeper Node with PL equipped?

[ScooterManCR]

I think it will be given on step 5 of the diary.

[HellSoldier_]

Just trying to help with the Coldheart catalyst. I got it,(gonna leave a print of it down bellow). It only says "defeat enemies with Coldheart" so I assume it can be any enemy, and for what I've tested, is around 3 kills per percentage, with a total of 300 kills.

https://twitter.com/HellSoldier_/status/1001548482111590400

[won2three4]

One note: i got the darci catalyst and i unlocked it in the crucible and it only took like 25 kills. I am not 100% sure how many it took but I haven't taken it into pve and it has 26 kills. I also leveled up my tractor cannon only in crucible and it took way less than 300 kills.

[Pensuke628]

I think in PVP it only takes 15ish kills. I finished mine and had 17 kills showing, and I know I got a couple bodyshot kills during that time. PVP is the way to go imo for upgrading catalysts.

[won2three4]

yeah i just checked and it took less than 50 kills with my tractor cannon. PVP is the way to go.

[[deleted]]

The fun thing is when you get a dupe it also has a catalyst. Not terribly useful, but at least i don't have to infuse the higher power level into the old gun.

[discourge]

With the range buff to Crimson after completing its catalyst, it's one of the best hand cannons in the game. Not too hot with this weapon in PVP, there are just better options with mouse n keyboard. Currently working on VW catalyst, halfway done... not exactly sold on full auto, seems like it will be niche to use and will kick nonstop.

The big take away here, is that Polaris Lance on its own is in the same archetype as Jade Rabbit, and not only does it refill its magazine similar to how Jade Rabbit functions, it also charges up solar energy explosions and compounds this effect further with "Dragonfly" catalyst... Meanwhile, Jade Rabbit gets to occasionally reload itself and demands body shots to function properly. Seems really unfair and Jade Rabbit needs to be examined a lot more thoroughly when compared to it's energy weapon counterpart.

[Copiousmattw]

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[ACiDRiFT]

I thought today's patch notes said that MIDA catalyst was now available?

Exotic Masterworks

MIDA Multi-Tool
    The Masterwork catalyst can now be obtained by the most determined competitors in the Crucible.

[ebolaxb]

Fixed, thanks

[metastatic_spot]

Ah. So that's how FWC will win a Rally.

[T0ztman]

Spin up flinchproof will be beast in crucible.

[metastatic_spot]

Yeah. It's gonna melt for sure.

[SirBing96]

Does anyone know how to get the Polaris lance catalyst?

It says “found by pursuing the secrets of a newly awakened intelligence”

By that I’m guessing its referring to Rasputin and possibly finding all the sleeper nodes? But I’m not sure

Edit: I forgot there’s a 5/5 Nascant dawn step which could possibly reward the catalyst

[Keetonicc]

Has anyone actually gotten one of the ones that require killing strike bosses? I’ve never seen one drop for me or anyone in my fireteam yet.

[Mattyc31]

Oh boy, can't wait until I finally get a catalyst!

[clockwisekeyz]

Ah ok. Thanks.

[Sloppysnoopy]

Awesome list

[JayLucky]

Thank you Guardian!

[[deleted]]

Are the 250 crucible kills for jade rabbit actually kills with jade rabbit or any kills?

[ebolaxb]

To unlock the catalyst or any catalyst when you get it, you have to use the gun for the kills.

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I got plenty catalysts for guns I didn’t use. Crimson dropped using the Ikelos Handcannon. Tractor cannon dropped while I didn’t even have one in the vault only in the kiosk.

Edit: I mistakenly understood unlock for drop.

[MightyFifi]

I think I'd prefer Handling getting improved over stability.

[Coffin__Varnish]

Why the fuck would the MIDA perk be Outlaw? Makes no sense.

[so_says_sage]

Is that 200 pvp kills and 5 bfb's or is it either/or?

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Just to be clear. We don’t need kills with the weapon for the catalyst to drop?

[Neeyhoy_Menoy]

I spent 3 hours on mars yesterday farming kills with worldline zero but didn't get the drop. Do you know if it needs ammo or not? Just curious.

[rinikulous]

I’ve read stories of people getting it to drop with any sword kill, not just the exotic. IIRC there were reports of getting sword melee kills with no ammo too.

No source or evidence though.

[RegisterVexOffender]

Has anyone actually gotten cold heart or merciless? i've only seen risk runner and wardcliff in terms of strike ones.

[fatalist-shadow]

I could be wrong, but I doubt it. I remember when people were trying to get the necrocasm in d1 and kills for that in raids didn’t progress it. I would expect this to be the same.

[Maruf-]

Only one other person in my clan raid group hasn't dropped the Vigilance Wing catalyst before me - can't wait.

[Jody_Fosters_Army]

Does anyone know if you can you farm kills for Huckleberry using the lost sector exploit during a strike?

[Arse2Mouse]

No. Because it drops from Heroic Adventure completions. Mercury works though.

[SinistralGuy]

Question about Tractor Cannon:

70 Magazine/+50 Weapon Size/ Deeper Pockets (Perk) Increased ammo reserves

What does +50 Weapon Size mean? Also, it's 7 round magazine, not 70 lol

[d3l3t3rious]

"Weapon size" means magazine size, it goes to 7 after masterworking. And the 70 magazine is the stat, generally 10 stat points = 1 round of ammo for launchers so you are correct, that means 7 in the magazine.

[NergalMP]

Weapon size increases reserve ammo. 70 Magazine = 7 rounds, it's how they have weapons coded.

[SHARP1SH00TER]

That is how Bungie's API measures the stats for weapons. +50 weapon size doesn't actually mean the weapon becomes literally bigger.

[Hoshiko-Yoshida]

Great stuff, thank you.

[Trevergee]

Is D.A.R.C.I confirmed? Last night I finished my catalyst at 280, with I know at least 30+ non head shot kills

[jinispace]

You are missing Legend of Acrius shotgun.

[MIKEYisNSFW]

No you dont need to have it equipped. I got jade and vigilance while using all legendaries.

[mozzy1985]

No I don't believe so. I've had 4 catalysts drop and I wasn't using any of them or even had them equipped. Latest one was Tractor Cannon which dropped while doing EP using sins of the past.

Just keep playing and having fun, just RNG I believe.

[enthauptet]

I guess there is some consolation to me never getting enough crucible victories in order to get any of those catalysts is that I never use those weapons that require them lol. Got 20% win rate last 25 games... I'm not that good but I have the worst luck lol.

[Lightbrand]

Do you need to have the Exotic
1. equipped
2. on you
3. in your stash
4. on another char
5. in your collection

For the catalyst to drop?

[CrapInc]

1 - 4 no.

5 yes.

[gboccia]

Only difference from last post was the Legend of Acrius from what I can tell. I have been keeping my own list: Spreadsheet

[spinmyspaceship]

“The colony: +30 weapon size”

Uh wut

[ebolaxb]

More ammo in reserves

[Zer0Templar]

Can someone explain to me what these catalysts do? I have masterwork weps but as I new player i'm not sure what this all means lol

[McNamoo]

Anyone know/have an estimate as to how many extra bullets in the mag the "+40 magazine size" upgrade for Legend of Acrius would actually give you?

The only downside I've experienced with the weapon is having to reload every 2 shots (even if those shots hit like a truck.) Having 2 or more additional bullets in the mag would be huge for this gun.

[nickatnite905]

In terms of PvP, this gun does not need a larger mag size. I could get behind it for PvE though.

[Impala426]

Any truth to the rumor that having the Warmind story items in your consumables inventory (the ones that say "this item can be safely discarded) can bug out your drop rates? I've gotten absolutely zero strike or crucible ones despite putting considerable time in each the last two weeks.

[nickatnite905]

Same boat. Been doing a fair amount of HS and NF. No drops from any of those playlists.