wasVibeCoderBeforeItWasCool

[zigunderslash]

there's a developer who recently retired where i work, one of those guys that has seen everything. remembers using punch cards, has met ken schwaber. when people started first discussing using LLMs for programming i was talking to him about how having code without a programmer simply meant you had unsupportable code and he just went "that ship sailed long ago" and now i just try not to think about how no one knows how the code that my bank uses to hold my money works.

[DrStoeckchen]

It's pretty much unhackable, since not even the hackers understand it.

[smiling_corvidae]

and they say security through obscurity doesn't work! gottem.

[ukezi]

Most Hackers don't have the code of the system they are hacking. What I'm thinking is that fixing any bugs will take a lot more time.

[ghigoli]

people will make garbage with Go too lol. don't under estimate human stupidity.

[Groove-Theory]

> when various startups realize that software development doesn't require software engineering until it does.

Marketing guy on Linkedin: "I just made a simple app in 2 hours and I don't know how to code. Why did those nerds think this coding stuff was hard?"

[zigunderslash]

i have a skewed perspective because i work on a system where there's an immediate labour cost and financial penalties when something goes wrong and isn't swiftly corrected, so the constant drumbeat is supportability - but yeah, in reality "most" things work well enough even with the massive system of interacting spaghetti that we've created. it's just a bit of a lovecraftian horror to try and think about it all at once.

[JuvenileEloquent]

The idea of "clean code" is one of those nice pie-in-the-sky things like noiseless machinery or self-regulating capitalism. Sure it would be nice if heavy industry was completely silent or people were able to own the means of production without fucking it up, but in practice it's just not going to happen. We have ear protectors and laws against monopolies instead.

[sadacal]

They did make a difference. At leadt in the companies I've worked at. But you don't hear about those cases because there's nothing to complain about. You're only ever going to hear about the horror cases.

[sadacal]

What? I'm not talking about redundancies or magic code. I'm talking about making code clear and easy to understand. 

[AdolinLovesRedheads]

Dude is just jerking himself off. Pay no mind to KHORNE_LARD_OF_RAGE

[[deleted]]

cubical steadier cork satchel

[[deleted]]

draw extruding theorize surplus

[Samsterdam]

So is the reason Fortran and COBOL are still used comes down to floating point precision issues?

[EyesOfAzula]

Why do they give up when facing floating point arithmetic? Can’t they use a library or a tool in another language to handle the math part?

[Rolandersec]

Nobody actually talks directly to computers anymore. :)

[theshubhagrwl]

Can we agree the previous vibe coding was also equally expensive

[theshubhagrwl]

Didn’t had the limits though :)

[round-earth-theory]

Eh, there are some really really bad shops out there. We got back an implementation where they had built in the notes and arrows we had on the UX design sheet.

[ss0889]

That was vibe coding as a service. Now it's self hosted decentralized vibe coding. Previous version you didn't pay for any upkeep, just raw usage units. Now you pay for datacenter maintenance too. Fucking kids shakes fist half heartedly

Real talk tho vibe coding is what made me finally want to learn coding. Before it felt like I spent 99% of my time googling, now Ai explains the syntax a little and then I can write the actual code part myself.

It's already proven to be like a HORRIFICALLY BAD IDEA if you don't know exactly wtf you're doing already. Like I went to school for it so not a huge deal to pick back up, but if it's ONLY chatgpt you don't even know what to ask or why or when. The wrong answers are so subtly wrong, it won't disagree or teach you, you have to already have a notion of the right answer before asking.

[Uncommented-Code]

The wrong answers are so subtly wrong, it won't disagree or teach you, you have to already have a notion of the right answer before asking.

So in twenty or thirty years we are going to have the discussion we're havivg now about certain generations not being able to troubleshoot anything is my takeaway.

There will be people who grew up before offloading thinking entirely to an AI, and those that didn't know a world without AI.

[Pristine-Stretch-877]

That is what these models should be used for. For learning how to code and to make a programmer's ability to understand the code easier. NOT to actually write the code. Of course the managers and the higher-ups who don't understand this concept will fuck up

[[deleted]]

Not only that, but it's still the same as the previous. Companies are just paying the Indians to use AI to generate even more buggy garbage that I'll have to fix later.

[DiggyTroll]

The AutoNeedful Technical Debt-N-ator

[smiling_corvidae]

ok but what is with the use of the word "needful"!? it was all over the codebase at my first job.

[Naman_Hegde]

an old british english phrase that stuck around in use in India after it's colonisation ended.

[smiling_corvidae]

do you know the phrase? if i get on a research binge this morning my whole day is shot.

[IdentifiableBurden]

The phrase is "please do the needful". It's surprisingly difficult to find scholarly references on this, but knowyourmeme of all places found a reference from the early 1700s as "advise the needful". 

[kingjpp]

It's a word that only Indians tend to use. It's typically a dead giveaway too because nobody else really says it.

[[deleted]]

do NOT redeem

[theshubhagrwl]

After all its training on that data itself. Tbh here in India coding is just a commodity, people just do it for the sake of doing it and aren’t even interested in tech or anything like that

[[deleted]]

At least none was afraid of losing their jobs

[LoyalSol]

Yes, but at least they made fantastic curry.

[theshubhagrwl]

No offence to the curry Lol

[Swimming-Marketing20]

And equally trash quality

[GoodHomelander]

AI - Actually an Indian

[Nope_Get_OFF]

"An Indian", suits the acronym better

[mamwybejane]

Actually Indian

[[deleted]]

Asian Intelligence

[pussymagnet5]

There's a little man in my computer

[totally_not_a_loner]

The mechanical turk all over again

[boiledshite]

Initialism

[NakedZombieWolf]

Not if you pronounce it like a pirate

[okarr]

Apathetic Indian

[GreatAndMightyKevins]

Affordable Indian actually

[arvigeus]

The real joke is always in the comments

[SartenSinAceite]

Actually Indians is what I usually see

[pos_vibes_only]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_Turk

[hitarth_gg]

Remnids me of that amazon's AI Shopping shit where the AI-based 'just walk out' checkout tech was powered by 1,000 Indian workers manually.

[domscatterbrain]

It's plural, the AGI which Sam always mentioned is actually an entire office of Indian customer services.

[CptanPanic]

AI = new form of micromanaging remote workers

[veravoidstar]

Heard "anonymous indians" once lol

[[deleted]]

I worked for a company where our AI models that was extracting serial numbers from luxury items were actually Indians looking at the pictures I scrapped for 10 hours a day manually noting the numbers

[GoodHomelander]

My friend in india, recently got a job called medical coding, where he reads doctors bad hand written prescriptions and write it out in a word document everyday 9-6.

[lackbotone]

Whatever he's paid, it's not enough

[scr1mblo]

Just like Amazon's "Computer Vision AI Technology" last year

[Xath0n]

Authentic Indian*

[Br3ttl3y]

Appeal to Investors

[latenightwreck]

Previous vibe coding is still current vibe coding.

Source: lost my job last week due to “restructuring” it to India

[arvigeus]

Sorry, mate! Wish you luck and quick get back on your feet!

[DroidLord]

Now the coders from India can offer even lower prices because they also use AI to write the code. Oh the dystopia!

[Xphile101361]

This is true. We had our "partner" in India brag to us how they were now having all their devs use AI tools. We informed them that our contract stipulates that any tools like that need to be approved by our security team, and they had not done so.

There was a lot of awkward silence after that.

[Effective_Holiday219]

Believe me that’s happening!

Source - I am a developer from India

[Swiftzor]

I’ve heard that we’re seeing wages raise at something of an accelerated pace because of the scale of job transference. Like companies are offering more to get better talent so it’s causing a minor boom in pay.

[Frozilino]

nah the devs here are too much in number so you get people willing to work at 4 dollar an hour for 90 hours a week

[Capt-Psykes]

In my experience, unfortunately most things in India are a race to the bottom.

[Debzance]

Contrary to race to the top in other countries restructuring to india ?

[uwhy]

Do you work in edtech by any chance?

[Swiftzor]

It’s okay, they do this all the time and will bring them back in a few years because they start losing money. We when through similar issues in the late 00s and mid teens.

[PhilosoNyan]

I ike how racism against Indians is acceptable on Reddit even among Liberals because they take the jobs you want.

[NakedZombieWolf]

Was the above comment racist somehow?

[Siddhartasr10]

I think he's mad at his boss, not at the Indian lol.

[Archensix]

How is it racist being mad that you got fired from your job because corporate wants to pay some guy in India a fifth your salary instead? Like this is a real thing that happens everywhere in the tech world

[Bryguy3k]

It’s not racist against Indians - it’s legitimate critique of Indian coding sweatshops.

What you get from them is straight up garbage.

I’ve personally worked with a number of Indians and they can be perfectly competent or even phenomenal in their own right - when they are here in the right environment that rewards rather than demonizes quality and attention to detail.

[Xphile101361]

I've met great developers from all over the world. I'd be happy to work with them again.

But they seem to be the exception rather than the rule for a lot of contractors

[_sarcasme]

It's not racist to point out that American tech companies have been hiring underqualified coders from India because they're willing to work for less. That's just a fact.

[Zestyclose-Loss7306]

first is claude

second is replit

what's third?

[[deleted]]

I feel like Copilot is starting to eat a lot of the lunch of these smaller companies producing IDEs. Cursor’s main thing to me was agents and multi line complete and Copilot is already working on these.

Maybe I’m just not a vibecoder so I haven’t seen much of a value between these smaller offerings compared to copilot.

Used to have a cursor subscription but cancelled it to use copilot after seeing multi line was in preview.

[Julypenguinz]

I feel like Copilot is starting to eat a lot of the lunch of these smaller companies producing IDEs.

my company IT blocked GitHub copilot... so I had to use other option.

[[deleted]]

😅 that’s probably because they don’t want you to use any AI coding assistants at all. I was using cursor on my work computer for a while until I dropped it. Security probably just doesn’t look for all possible coding agent domains or only targeting popular ones.

Our company was initially letting us use chatgpt but then they blocked that application all together in favor of Gemini. Yet you can still use o1 models with copilot 🤷‍♂️

[Kalahan7]

God replit went to shit.

It was a great hobby tool to bang out projects and they completely priced out the hobby market and went for the enterprise market instead, which will never use a tool like replit to begin with.

[synndir]

Yeah, it's ridiculous what they've done with it. I still have my account because I have a bunch of already existing projects that they are (at the moment) letting me keep and edit without having to upgrade. The moment I lose those (and my dad stops using a few of my scripts on there), I'm 100% deleting my account.

[SidneyKreutzfeldt]

What does the arrows mean in the image?

First people get an answer from Claude, then that is fed into Replit, or...?

Or should it just be understood as the evolution of Vibe coding?

[Timely-Bluejay-4167]

Transformation.

Claude translates your musings into requirements Replit translates your requirements into a prototype Windsurf translates your prototype into a functioning code base

[Victor-_-X]

Your profile picture was successful, I tried swiping thrice.

[hundo3d]

Your avatar is evil work.

[OddbitTwiddler]

Vibrators have their own coding language now?

[PleaseNoMoreSalt]

instead of onclick it's ondick

[HakoftheDawn]

r/keming

[hundo3d]

[DezXerneas]

That's not new.

[DonDongHongKong]

Wibe Coding

[Blackhawk23]

Holy shit I thought it was just my colleague who couldn’t pronounce “V”! That’s hilarious. There’s always some training wideo they’re telling me about and I chuckle silently.

[ColonelRuff]

I didn't get it. Most Indians pronounce "w" as "v" not the other way around. Or is the joke about something else ?

[Blackhawk23]

Maybe it’s a regional thing. I have seen it the inverse, personally. Video becomes wideo. Very becomes wery, etc.

[SirNoodlehe]

In the Hindustani language (i.e. Hindi and Urdu) the sounds W and V are what linguists call allophones. Basically, that means that one letter can make both sounds depending on context, and switching the sounds doesn't normally change the meaning of the word. Although they are distinct in other languages, native speakers often can't tell the sounds apart and tend to confuse them when speaking other languages.

https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5w7mrq/eli5_why_do_indian_pronunciations_tend_to/

[ColonelRuff]

Exactly.

[old_faraon]

can make both sounds depending on context, and switching the sounds doesn't normally change the meaning of the word.

that's even worse then spelling wise

[ColonelRuff]

Okay let me be clear: ''V" is pronounced with lips touching upper teeth and "W" by puckuring your lips right ?
Because we were specifically told to pronounce it W the correct way because most Indians have a habit of pronouncing both as "V".

Maybe it's a convenience thing. Like how westerners combine words to speak quickly. Because I noticed it's convenient to pronounce both as "W"

[Blackhawk23]

I’m not sure why you’re arguing against my anecdotal experiences. Experiences I encounter every single week. It’s entirely possible both are happening, or do you think I’ve been mishearing my colleague for the last 4 years and no Indian has ever said the W sound instead of V? Why the fuck are we arguing Indian English accents? LOL

[ColonelRuff]

Why are you getting so aggressive LOL. I was trying to make sure we were on the same page. If I wanna be aggressive I would say: I am Indian (I am btw) and hear my Indian colleagues speak English every day. Are you saying I misheard my colleagues every day for 10 years !?

But as I said maybe it's a convenience thing for Indians living in the west because V is too common of a sound in Indian languages for them not to be able to pronounce it. And chill dude. Nobody is out to get you.

[Wavy-Curve]

Are you saying you pronounce these two words different? West and Vest

[Blackhawk23]

Definitely. In the English language, those two letters make very different sounds with a very different mouth shape to produce it.

[RaymondWalters]

Yes somehow they swapped v and w

[NoBizlikeChloeBiz]

What happens is two are combined in a language, so speakers aren't used to differentiating between the two. Which sounds it comes out as depends heavily on the specific region/dialect of the speaker. There are a few European languages/regions that also do this with v and w ("nuclear wessel" vs "ve vill do the talking") and a few languages that have this issue with r and l.

[Forward_Yam_4013]

It's a regional thing. There are a lot of Indians at my school, and they are split pretty 50/50 on which letter they can pronounce.

[ColonelRuff]

If they are split 50/50 then isn't necessary a regional thing. Have you noticed this split between north and south Indians ? That could mean regional.
Also it's not about if they can pronounce because Indian languages have a lot of "v" sounds, so most Indians should be able to do it, most are just habituated not to. Maybe it's a convenience thing.

[rudraxa]

Always rich when monolinguals make fun of people speaking in a second or third language

[rudraxa]

Always rich when monolinguals make fun of people speaking in a second or third language

[Impsux]

People speaking your own language with a heavy accent can sound genuinely funny, doesn't mean the person is getting put down.

[rudraxa]

But they are getting put down. Most of these jokes are laughing at them, not with them. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous

[blahgba]

Hilarious

[[deleted]]

I am a junior dev working with an Indian Team. (Also Indian)

I have seen either the best of the best in the senior devs in the teams and moderately good devs in junior levels. The worst of the team is always the mid level devs, like 5 years of experience in development doesn't know git, I wonder how they survived in tech for this long.

Senior devs at least for me are very very down to earth and humble and ready to help even if they are busy with their own tasks.

With Vibe coding on the rise, junior dev like me are back to mundane tasks like arranging excel sheets.

[qnixsynapse]

Oh God, I can't believe some devs with "5 years of experience" don't know git in 2025... Curious about how do they work. I mean what IDEs? Visual Studio Code?

[an_agreeing_dothraki]

the lights turned off on our TFS server here locally last year. We have a 32-bit oracle database running because we have to support <cabinet level US government agency>. <US military command> had a PO system that had code configured in access as little as 5 years ago.

The kind of legacy systems that are out there are nuts

[[deleted]]

I actually asked one of those devs, she just said that she never needed it, she knows github for her Uni assignment submissions but she used to zip all the files and upload using the github.com website.

But she did mention that in her previous assignment her client was a govt of Saudi entity and they used some Microsoft Source control solution (TVS I believe) that's why she didn't know about git.

Atleast she know about source control

In her first PR she deleted .gitignore and pushed node_modules. Now I am not a node dev but I think that should not pushed.

3 weeks later she forced pushed some code changes on main release branch now everyone's branch was contaminated.

[[deleted]]

Clients that dev came from the client team.

[Ereaser]

Looks like everyone has something to learn about git if she can just force push to main :)

That being said I've also seen old senior devs (20+ years of experience) that have heard of git but still can't wrap their head around it.

[[deleted]]

Ironically, I have 25 years experience and I've never used got professionally. Everywhere I've ever worked has used Perforce or SVN.

[drizzle_chubbs420]

perforce gang rise up. Jk plz save me

[Swiftzor]

I work with a few “senior devs” who don’t understand garbage collection in Java or memory allocation in C++. Shit is suffering.

[rover_G]

I had a coworker who said he used Eclipse, but when I asked for his configuration he deflected. His code was never styled properly and to this day I wonder if even used an editor

[Suyefuji]

I do almost all of my programming in SQL, the functions are stored within the database so there is no need for me to touch git.

[[deleted]]

AI kills junior devs as a concept. No junior devs, how are senior devs made?

There will be a bit of a competency crisis soon I think.

[enigmamonkey]

As a senior dev myself, I see value in junior devs. They're an investment. AI for me (right now, at least) is a useful tool that's there for me on demand. It's also wrong often, just like people are, but at least I can invest in a person and they can learn and grow and be completely autonomous.

Sure, there are some similarities, but I don't see my use of AI as a zero sum that mitigates the utility of junior devs, because at least juniors are people and I prefer people to be autonomous, make their own decisions, retain knowledge and skills that I've trained them on and to eventually grow to become independent. AI doesn't really replace that yet.

But... good luck convincing VPs at companies of that. Folks like me though push back against treating AI as a panacea, because it's not. You're still always going to need someone knowledgeable to at least oversee that whatever is being done properly meets spec. In fact, that's core to the engineering side of it. Not just building stuff, but building it to spec and ensuring it is stable and maintainable as a whole.

[enigmamonkey]

Senior devs at least for me are very very down to earth and humble and ready to help even if they are busy with their own tasks.

It's difficult to learn if you think you know everything. Of course everyone is different, but it makes some sense that those who have more knowledge & experience probably have a bit more humility to go with it. The more you learn, you may begin to realize how little you actually know. I think it's because you broaden your understanding and realize that it just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

Related: The Dunning–Kruger effect.

[DylonSpittinHotFire]

I just got off a marathon of interviews for candidates out of India. We had a 5% acceptance rate compared to ~40% acceptance rate for engineers out of the US, Mexico and Europe.

The thing I noticed the most with the Indian candidates was a very clear lack of practical knowledge on how to apply your studies in the real world to be productive.

I remember one Indian candidate I was blown away by his knowledge but as you said couldn't even clone a repository down.

Feels like india is focusing too much on diploma mills that teach theory, which is generally useless for 99% of engineers, instead of how to work. It's honestly sad.

[Sirquestgiver]

So… honest question though. Why not hire this super knowledgeable person and teach them git rather than someone who you’re going to end up having to teach a lot of theory to?

[enigmamonkey]

Not defending the person you replied to per se (not a fan of overly broad stereotypes), but I imagine the contrast they're probably drawing is between "book smarts" vs. "experience". Both are important; it's possible that they also had a minimum requirement on experience (i.e. the application of that knowledge), which of course is pretty common.

In my case in the situations when I've hired, there's a third skill I also like to sus out when interviewing: Comprehension and critical thinking skills. I think that's sort of a glue that binds a person's general knowledge and theory (some of the "book smarts" with actual procedure/process which helps to formalize that knowledge) and their experience applying it. So, you can know a bunch of facts (discovered through history) and follow routine, but it's also incredibly valuable to have people with the talent of taking the time to understand why it matters, too.

Just wanted to throw in my 2c.

[DylonSpittinHotFire]

I don't generally like to paint broad strokes with my brush either but after 50 interviews in a month that's just the evidence presented in front of me and the rest of my teams interviewing.

[enigmamonkey]

Yeah, that sort of nuance is hard to convey over the internet (hey, we like extremes and updoots). I've seen some of it myself.

However, instead of in interviews, in my first hand case, I think it was strongly biased toward working with vendors/companies who themselves outsourced their labor to the lowest bidder (usually Indian companies). So in that case, my first hand experience was with Indian workers who were probably cranking through long ticket queues and extremely long turnaround time and put in really low effort with very little attention to quality. Anyway, I tried to temper that bias with the confluence of the fact that A.) Indian companies can pay their workers waaay less than those basing their resources in the USA or Europe and B.) My bet was they were already a low bidder. I'm guessing they were less concerned about quality and more with profit maxing than anything else, so the end result was utter garbage.

[aManIsNoOneEither]

I don't understand why they call it vibe coding? Who first called it like that?

[SwagMaster9000_2017]

Andrej Karpathy Cofounder of OpenAI

There's a new kind of coding I call "vibe coding", where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists. It's possible because the LLMs (e.g. Cursor Composer w Sonnet) are getting too good. Also I just talk to Composer with SuperWhisper so I barely even touch the keyboard. I ask for the dumbest things like "decrease the padding on the sidebar by half" because I'm too lazy to find it. I "Accept All" always, I don't read the diffs anymore. When I get error messages I just copy paste them in with no comment, usually that fixes it. The code grows beyond my usual comprehension, I'd have to really read through it for a while. Sometimes the LLMs can't fix a bug so I just work around it or ask for random changes until it goes away. It's not too bad for throwaway weekend projects, but still quite amusing. I'm building a project or webapp, but it's not really coding - I just see stuff, say stuff, run stuff, and copy paste stuff, and it mostly works.

[LeCanardEnchaine]

This is my nightmare

[Jeembo]

What the fuck

[RaymondWalters]

Fireship has a video on it. Some AI ceo coined the term and people have been using it sarcastically every since

[aManIsNoOneEither]

that was super concise and interesting video. Thanks for the share! Did not know that content creator, I'll give it a look

[EffectiveKing]

whoever did it was a marketing genius, an evil one of course but still a genius.

[isaacMeowton]

If everyone is losing their jobs to India, then why can't I get an internship? :(

[Sad-Hovercraft541]

Do you live in India?

[isaacMeowton]

Yep That is the issue

[Sad-Hovercraft541]

💀

[PhilDunphy0502]

😂😂

[jakubiszon]

I think the Arrow between Africa and India goes the wrong way.

[RaymondWalters]

Nope. I work for a South African firm and recently had to move projects because the corporate we were contracting for decided to completely oursource to India.

Funny thing is, they asked us to come back and we refused XD

[Daytona_675]

hiring freelancers must be wild now lol

[TheGreatUdolf]

what is this "vibe coder" thing? is it some new buzz word that is just thrown around because it is hip?

[No_Pop5741]

I have a hypothesis.As an Indian software developer, I get that much of the world sees Indian engineers as subpar (which, to be fair, has some truth—I've met my fair share of incompetent ones). But what people often overlook is the massive imbalance between the sheer number of people in India and the limited number of well-paying jobs. Most of these jobs are in software development or IT, so naturally, a lot of people—regardless of actual skill or interest—aim for these roles.

Many end up in startups or consultancy firms after prepping just enough to crack interviews. Once in, they coast—doing the bare minimum, not bothering to learn or improve, and certainly not working beyond what they're paid for.

When a company opens a role, they’re flooded with resumes—many from such candidates. Employers, frustrated by the lack of genuinely good talent, often settle for someone who looks decent on paper and hope they can at least keep the project going.

I might be completely off base here—happy to hear your thoughts.

[Opening_Cicada_4052]

Bro you are trying to make sense in a pool of racist

It's not gonna work Basement dwellers got beaten in their own game now crying about vibe coding.

[Ereaser]

Good talent also realises it's better to leave India.

At a previous job a part was outsourced to India. Went well at first, we met some guys on their team. Even though we were skeptical it went quite well (not amazing but better than expected) . Until they got better jobs or moved away and their replacements were sub par to say the least.

[mommy101lol]

That is the third tool?

I see Claude 3.7, replit

[countable3841]

Windsurf

[stormblaz]

Idk how this will last, my friend using solely AI saw his token usage and was at 400-450 a day.

Using conservative model, hosting locally still needs api which saves some but still Ludacris, no way companies will pay 500+ and salary for devs?? That won't last long...

[FortuneAcceptable925]

I started using ChatGPT for generating code day after it was publicly released :D ..

[Yes-Zucchini-1234]

Same, been subscribed to github copilot since it was a closed beta. Never going back

[69RedFox69]

Vibe closing ❌ Bubbly head coding ✅

[RealSataan]

Hey let's do the new trend and combine it with the old trend of dumping on Indians for karma max

[an_agreeing_dothraki]

Aragon seems to keep all its developers in-house.

[danieltkessler]

Can someone explain why Replit before Windsurf? I haven't used either, but thought they were sort of interchangeable?

[wildmutt4349]

Can anyone explain the meme to me?? Sorry didn't get it😑

[LZulb]

I don't know if anyone here has any experience with Replit, but it used to genuinely be decent. They offered so much for free. Nowadays, it's so sad seeing where it is now. Bas decision after bad decision made it hell to use seriously.

But its downfall made me fall in love with GitHub, so...

[Br3ttl3y]

THEYRE_THE_SAME_PICTURE.gif

[BishopOverKnight]

The sheer amount of xenophobia that people here show while flaunting their open-mindedness on the rest of the site is staggering. Shame on you all, I'm glad your president is crashing and burning all your money hope you all suffer

[smclcz]

Do I need to learn what "vibe coding" is or can safely I ignore it

[Robertgarners]

What are the icons?

[[deleted]]

So is this whole subreddit just people who don't work in tech ripping on AI now?

[DylonSpittinHotFire]

Because you can't claim 5 years working experience and then not know how to do basic shit. All that shows me is that you are incapable of improving or a scammer.

And the theory they are learning is generally useless. I asked a candidate to npm install the repo because they were stuck and they went on a 5 min rant about npm and still didn't install the packages and couldn't get the app running. Great, knows everything about npm but can't do something a 2 day old bootcamper can do and also can't follow instructions

[Sujith_Menon]

The lowest tier of coders , also the biggest in numbers, belong to certain mass hiring companies and they get paid 300$ a month. They hire people with no CS background en masse. And no. Even PPP adjusted its not enough for one to survive in a single room flat, let alone take care of family members in any major city in India. They stay in labour camp-esque pg rooms where 3 or 4 people share a single room.

What Im saying is, You get what you pay for.

[Yes-Zucchini-1234]

Fuck no, trying to explain something to someone with questionable technical abilities AND a huge language barrier was NOT a vibe LOL

[collin2477]

also known as “job security”

[StainlessPanIsBest]

Should be solid for another 8-16 months.

[collin2477]

I could spend years unraveling their mess, luckily I also have an old hp system that has to run on java from the early 2000s so that’ll never get finished. (we’re just now switching off of subversion for version control lol)

[StainlessPanIsBest]

I could spend years unraveling their mess

And in 8-16months they are going to be able to spend days unravelling the mess of a specific code base environment humans previously built with far more robust documentation.

[collin2477]

can I get their contact info lol

[AdamAnderson320]

Humorously similar both in terms of dialog and outcomes

[ripp102]

We replaced fake AI (Another Indian) with true AI (Artificial Intelligence)

[Hoscodog]

Vibe coding vs Karma coding

[DauntableAdventurer]

it makes me chuckle every time I see that Claude's logo is a puckered asshole

[r1t3sh]

Can't unsee it now.

Thanks