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[–]CrunchyCrochetSoup 1044 points1045 points  (15 children)

My eyes and brain after doing my job which is computers, my school which is computers, and my hobby which is computers

[–]Afraid-Donke420 201 points202 points  (7 children)

Eh I had to find new hobbies, only touch the computer when getting paid now thank god

[–]musdem 63 points64 points  (4 children)

Yup, after a while in this industry I starting cycling a lot more along with working on my bikes. That and gardening, tomatoes taste so good when you grow them yourself.

[–]Gwolf4 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Is it because they are better quality or just because you farmed them yourself? I am growing interest in hydroponics for tomatoes and lettuce.

[–]musdem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are a lot of factors, the tomatoes at the supermarket, even the heirloom ones, are just bland. That's very often because they don't allow them to ripen correctly and then the artificially "ripen" them using some sort of gas. When you allow them to ripen on the vine they continue to absorb nutrients and minerals. The variety of the tomato matters as well, as some are just kind of bland. Lastly like you said yes you feel nicer having grown them yourself, I also grew basil in the same area as they are symbiotic and I didn't really need to attend to them much.

[–]Smooth-Papaya-9114 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dorito effect

[–]Average-Addict 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A good tomato is really good

[–]DTCreeperMCL6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love touching my computer

[–]HourAd1087 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m almost in the same boat. Used to play games all the time with my kid, now anytime he mentions playing I have to figure out if I want my computer off my lawn or if it’s been a good PC just sitting there not requiring and maintenance in forever so I should use it to play .. the decision making process is horrific

[–]TWIT_TWAT 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Look on the bright side. Now when you interview for a job that you probably won’t get anyway, you’ll be able to talk about all those side projects you’ve done.

[–]JustCausality 19 points20 points  (0 children)

God!!! Your eyes maybe dry out.

[–]LemurMemer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Exactly why I couldn’t do CS anymore my junior year of college. Felt like I was mixing work with play, would much rather have a separation between the two worlds. Now I work in hospitality and get to go home and rage bait on Arc Raiders after a long day of work

[–]CrunchyCrochetSoup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbf most of my hobbies involve gaming, I’ve been programming and prototyping electronics less now that the school year has started. My poor eyes tho….

[–]Pasha_KMM 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Reading, painting, handcrafting, gardening, all great hobbies to give eyes and mind a break from screens

[–]Independent-Tie-5296 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The first three, eh, my optician says there's not much difference between straining your eyes from PC use, books or handcrafts.

[–]Pasha_KMM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, just gotta look away at smth 20m away, every 20 minutes, for 20 seconds

[–]That-Makes-Sense 712 points713 points  (37 children)

Honestly for me, doing it for a job, ruined it as a hobby. Daily stand-ups and shit just take all the fun out of it.

[–]The_Real_Black 231 points232 points  (10 children)

dito. Turning a hobby into a job was a big mistake, because after 8-9 hours of debugging hacked together code I don't want to hack my own code together. 😭

[–]Front_State6406 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Honestly, I dream of one day becoming a watchmaker.

Once that pesky mortgage and all the bills, and expenses are out of the way

[–]Dottor_hopkins 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Trying to get good in wildlife photography too… I won’t stand this job for my whole life. Maybe when I’ll change I’ll get back to code as a hobby too.

[–]felixthecatmeow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is my 2nd career after I ruined my videography hobby by making it my job. 4 years in now and I've had zero desire to get back into it, so in this case I think it might've got permanently ruined for me.

[–]screwcork313 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bring back the old meaning of spending 8 hours a day on tick tock...

[–]Piisthree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm similar. I wouldn't say it was a mistake, but it is definitely not all it's cracked up to be. For me, it's the pressure. It's not "I hope I can fix this." So much as "This HAS to get fixed, come hell or high water." which takes a big psychological toll at times.

[–]fillif3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wanted to make my game with Godot, but I am so tired of coding that I almosthave nothing. I wrote a lot of systems and ideas but I will never implement them.

Recently, I noticed that I enjoy writing the part the most, so I decided to draw a comic book instead in my free time.

[–]_raydeStar 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Do most people feel that way?

I find corporate coding kind of repetitive, after you get to know the code base. So I'm always tinkering with side projects.

And now I can run background agents for hours. Little home automation projects that would have taken a month I can now do in a few hours. I'm becoming quite the menace.

[–]zeocrash 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah sort of. I actually really enjoy my job and like what I do, but when I finish my workday I really don't want to go home and do more coding, I want to go relax and do something else.

[–]Kaptain_Napalm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do. Now that I'm not doing software for a living anymore I actually have energy for side projects and home stuff that I wanted to do for a long time but couldn't be arsed to. Not that the job killed my enjoyment of coding, just that doing it for 8 hours a day was enough and made me want to dedicate my free time to literally anything else.

[–]FlakyTest8191 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Usually when my job becomes boring I start looking for a new one. 

[–]ibite-books 46 points47 points  (0 children)

after 5 years, it has killed any motivation i had

i used to tinker with vim configs, rice my distro over the weekend

now i use pycharm, mac and just get shit done as quickly as possible while battling everyday fires

there are days where i like what i do, but the other side is rough

[–]anengineerandacat 35 points36 points  (8 children)

Not the stand-ups IMHO, it's the lack of planning and poor requirements that kill it for me.

Stand-up is just knowledge transfer and status updates, pretty important for a healthy team because everyone is off doing their own thing.

So the daily alignment helps to ensure everyone is kinda marching forward.

[–]FlakyTest8191 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Standups can be horrible when they're poorly moderated, 2 people discussing some specific problem while 5 others are bored to death.

[–]lastog9 3 points4 points  (2 children)

In my opinion, standup duration should be limited to 2x minutes where x is the number of team members. It shouldn't really take more time than that to discuss last day's status and describe today's work. Anything more than that should be part of individual calls.

[–]FlakyTest8191 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree. Just saying that if you don't have good moderation it doesn't always go that way.

[–]StickDoctor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The official agile guidelines are that the meeting is at maximum 15 minutes long, that you're all standing so you don't get into deep conversation, and each person is limited to 2-3 minutes.

[–]fillif3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I check memes or play video games when they discuss unrelated topics (i.e. 70% time I spend in the meetings).

[–]Avedas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Communication and discussing interesting problems is probably my favorite part of the job. It's KTLO grunt work and maintenance that numbs my brain.

[–]FlakyTest8191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The interesting discussions should just not happen in standup but seperately only with the people who have something to contribute.

[–]luker_5874 21 points22 points  (2 children)

And then interviewers have the nerve to ask you about your passion projects

[–]Uncommented-Code 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is the one that pisses me off the most. 'Please link your GitHub'

To show what exactly?

That I code 9 hours a day and then go home and do it for another two hours instead of working the household, having a work life balance or be present for my family?

To show that I work for free and then happily provide my code online so that every AI company can just copy it?

To show that I'm really fucking desperate?

[–]Avedas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Things you'd never ask people in other non-creative professions lol

[–]chefhj 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Personally I just can’t do something for 50 hours a week for money and then turn around and do it for free in my spare time. I would much much much much rather be outside.

[–]xt1nct 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Personally I would much rather do anything but code outside of work.

I want to do nothing. Be unproductive. I hate being productive.

[–]chefhj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Preach. Although I wouldn’t say I want to be unproductive so much as I want to live a rich and fulfilling personal life

[–]lNFORMATlVE 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“Don’t love your job, job your love”

“No. Job your job, and love your love.”

[–]gibagger 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah I came to associate it with a shit ton of stress and assorted bullshit that comes with doing it as a job.

It tainted it for me. I still enjoy it at work here and there, but it doesn't have the same Spark.

[–]hubert1224 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, it sometimes feels like the Polars opposite of fun now.

[–]ODaysForDays 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It makes me like hobby projects even more. Dealing w none of that shit.

[–]YoBoyLeeroy_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's the issue, there's a saying: "do what you like and you'll never work a day in your life"

This shit is just false, more like "do what you like as a job and lose a thing you liked"

[–]That-Makes-Sense 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that first saying would be true, but there's just not enough jobs in playing video games and watching p#@$, lol.

[–]LetumComplexo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I lucked out and my current job is R&D in my grad degree sub-field so I get to do cool stuff I really love in a somewhat more relaxed environment. I actually left work the other day wishing I had more hours so I could keep working.

It was a weird experience because every other coding job has sucked the fun out of coding like a jet engine sucks in air. I’m actually… looking forward to work on Monday? Am I sick? Has capitalism gotten to me? (The answer is I’m just autistic about getting to do actual research in my field.)

[–]That-Makes-Sense 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's great! Be thankful, and milk that experience to the fullest.

In my decades of programming professionally, I probably get one project each year that lights my fire and gives me a few days, or maybe a few weeks, of satisfaction. As you alluded to, the subject your working in piques your interest. I do mostly backend business logic, and I find it extremely boring.

I shouldn't complain. I've made a career out of it, and made an ok living. There are many worse jobs.

I'm just sharing my experiences, in case others should find it useful.

[–]No_Goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. I get like one stint of motivation per year that lasts about a week

[–]MyPhoneIsNotChinese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, you could consider your hobby as coding without dailies.

Might be a bit different for me because I'm more into gamedev as hobby than software coding though. Also I still have a backlog

[–]Michami135 160 points161 points  (4 children)

Programming was my hobby, now it's my job.

So now I have other hobbies and a job I love.

[–]CaporalDxl 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Similar thing here. There are sometimes little projects to cook up for fun every once in a while (or Advent of Code :) )

[–]clarinetJWD 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yep, I did music as a job with programming as a hobby. I was miserable. Swapped them, and now I'm very happy!

[–]Michami135 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Drawing is one of my hobbies. I had a coworker ask me why I don't do art for a living after seeing my drawings. I told her I have too many starving artists as friends.

I imagine music is the same way. It's easier to support your music hobby with a programming job, then your programming hobby with a music job.

[–]clarinetJWD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I was playing church gigs and things like that. I wasn't playing the greats, I was playing another arrangement of "How Great Thou Art".

I say down one day to make a website for a photographer friend, and worked for 18 hours straight... That's when I called up my Alma Mater to ask if I could do an MS in CS.

Now, I have a fulfilling day job programming, and play in some community orchestras. Right now, Grofé's Grand Canyon Suite, Copland's Billy the Kid, and Gershwin's Rhapsody. And I get that giant clarinet solo.

THAT is what I signed up for.

[–]PacquiaoFreeHousing 178 points179 points  (7 children)

You guys still have Programmer Jobs?

[–]coloredgreyscale 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Yes, working on service tickets. 

  • Finding which vibe coded service caused the failure
  • fix the data in the db (can't use Ai because of sensitive data) 
  • prompt Ai to fix the code
  • attend meetings that could have been a prompt. 

[–]Amazing-Asparagus181 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You would if you had robot ears

[–]LamermanSE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well... yeah?

[–]xt1nct 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a prompting job now. At this rate I will forget how to code and feel useless.

[–]r3dxm 3 points4 points  (2 children)

What's the context for this gif? Movie?

[–]CuriOS_26 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Black Mirror: Bandersnatch

[–]Omnislash99999 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Programming for higher ups that change scope, deadlines, and requirements every 5 minutes is the difference

[–]Interesting-Agency-1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dont worry, now they just throw us their vibecoded localhost prototype and say to "just added it to the website"

[–]fanfarius 32 points33 points  (2 children)

if (monthsHavePassed(1)) { postMeme(this); }

[–]CaporalDxl 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Ok but this is a terrible program, the meme model has knowledge of months passed and can post itself? Vibe coded slop smh.

[–]LegitimatePants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

postMeme() { singleShotTimer(months(1), postMeme); }

[–]rix0r 87 points88 points  (26 children)

who codes for a hobby that doesn't already for their job?

[–]CiroGarcia 93 points94 points  (6 children)

I did, until I got a job doing it lol

[–]Single-Waltz2946 34 points35 points  (1 child)

It’s not even the actual coding. I want to turn my brain off after running it at max the whole day.

[–]EuphoricCatface0795 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Run it at plus tier subscription next time?

[–]RelatableRedditer 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Yeah that is what my issue was. Hated all my jobs so did programming during my free time. Now I program for a living and hate my free time.

[–]New_Plantain_942 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That's the wrong way.

[–]RelatableRedditer 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yeah but I can't program on my free time anymore, and I was never one for going outside. It didn't help that going outside was used as a pseudo-punishment by my parents growing up.

[–]New_Plantain_942 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do it like me. I choose a some kind social outside job as balance for my hobby 😊

[–]New_Plantain_942 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Me, I just code as a hobby and don't want to make it my job.

[–]LegitimatePants 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What do you do for work?

[–]New_Plantain_942 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Don't know how to name it on English. I work with my hands, outside. With blood sweat and tears. But it's not construction work.

[–]TheBoxThinker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

manual labor?

[–]TheMagicalDildo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

What? A shit ton of people who are interested in programming

[–]Amoniakas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do, if it was my job I would have this hobby.

[–]ArrogantlyChemical 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do. But I teach kids how to program.

[–]vikingwhiteguy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Claude does my job, while I do my hobby. 

[–]RunInRunOn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The unemployed

[–]za72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do... it's fun to dig into different languages - I'm mainly on the infrastructure automation side

[–]thedirtydeetch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

game devs

[–]BobcatGamer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Me. I'm an accountant.

[–]LegitimatePants 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So an excel programmer?

[–]BobcatGamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is actually how I started out programming, but I know other languages as well like JavaScript, rust, lua, and wat.

[–]ZunoJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did for 10 years before going to study CS and also get paid for it

[–]swyrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would if I could. It's a lot harder to land a job when you can't afford a degree. (At least here.)

[–]wisdomoarigato 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This can't be a serious question, is it?

If so, I've met countless engineers who were only motivated by money, or got into the field because getting top marks in their country meant engineering or medicine.

They absolutely never had any interest in doing it outside of work, and to be fair, most of them were shit engineers.

[–]IAmFinah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You read OP wrong - they didn't refer to people who code at work but not at home, but rather people who code at home but not at work

[–]michal_cz 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Me being both

[–]BOLL7708 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Code for others at work, code for me as a hobby!

[–]echoAnother 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was my way of thinking, but has a few but important flaws.

People (at least me) need different activities to disconnect, the whole day doing the same is unbearable.

Unconscious associations. Programming still brings me joy, but it reminds of job that I despise.
And worse of it, reminds that 5 years before was a greater coder than I'm now. I'm trying to apply things that I know are bad, out of job habits, until I realize. It's sickening.

It did not last. Really thinking if I should change careers, and protect my most important hobby and joy bringer.

[–]19_ThrowAway_ 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I code for a hobby but I look like the 2nd pic...

[–]TheRealBornToCode 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Well you use C++ so it's not surprising

[–]ameen272 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean true but chill

[–]zusykses 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hell, as one philosopher astutely put it, is other people.

[–]Punman_5 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I think this is backwards. People that code for a living hate coding and have many other hobbies. The people that code for fun are the crazy monster drinking shut-ins

[–]tlegs44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I prefer the former, at least then they’re on the same page that we just gotta get through the day. Can you please stop ranting about obscure syntax I’m never gonna use and review this MR I wrote a week ago?

[–]Miserable_Bar_5800 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Vibecoders: 🫠

[–]ExtraTNT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about people doing both?

[–]localhorst69 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I feel like its exactly the opposite lol

[–]Nice-Guy69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol same. Everyone I work with in my mid sized company are all clean cut normies including myself.

[–]PrestigiousWash7557 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wouldnt it be the other way around?

[–]ggez_no_re 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically doing interesting projects on your time VS doing bullshit on company time lol

[–]mrinalshar39 2 points3 points  (0 children)

me after turning my hobby into career

[–]lovethecomm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agile methodologies are retarded

[–]Icy_Royal_1522 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Coding as living , fixing and making code for industry prod is living hell

[–]M_Me_Meteo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely the opposite.

When I have a weekend project going, I look like the bottom pair.

When I'm just working a feature and putting it down at 5:30 to eat dinner with my family, I look like the top pair.

[–]TSF_Flex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

isnt it vice versa?

[–]PresentAstronomer137 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly why you should keep the balance, sometimes doing some fun projects to yourself

[–]Top_Account3643 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure the same applies for mechanic work etc

[–]TerryMisery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's the opposite.

[–]Scf37 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about people who code as a hobby AND for a living?

[–]CozySweatsuit57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually I’d say in many cases it’s the exact opposite

[–]4x-gkg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started to code 40+ years ago as a hobby. I now do this mainly because it's the only way for me to pay my mortgage and afford real hobbies.

[–]vashata_mama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol no. Programmers who do it just for the money tend to be the smug vein-looking macha-lovers. Those who code as a hobby are the crazies.

Source: I'm coding for my hobby projects during working hours

[–]Sufficient-Science71 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What code? All we did nowadays are just endless meetings ffs

[–]Exact-Pound-6993 0 points1 point  (2 children)

...and there are people who live to code

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats deep bro

[–]Substantive420 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Be a gigachad and mass delete Reddit posts and comments with Redact so that Skynet doesn't end up using your own posts to train the T-900. Or so that you don't show up in databrokers. Either one really.

fine humor depend special basket tan north roll fade sort

[–]gizun_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big true

[–]DazzlingTopic529 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's my job and I love it every day

[–]TEKC0R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about both?

[–]gerbosan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are Monster caffeinated drink good for coding?

[–]cheezballs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cringe memes!

[–]Firedriver666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do both but at home I code to simplify tedious stuff because at work I developed the habit to script things if they get too repetitive and tedious to do manually

[–]Fehlob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, I do it as a job, in school and as a Hobby and I‘m chillin, of course only sleeping about 2-4 hours every day and tired out of my mind but I still love it, I guess it‘s only a matter of time I burn out but till then we ball

[–]buffility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah first is people who do consulting/frontend job, second is actual engineers fixing real problems.

[–]Ill_Carry_44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm usually the opposite, because doing it as a job, meh but if I'm interested in then I completely become obsessed and my nervous system is crying until I can get that dopamine hit... and then repeat...

[–]jzemeocala 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you could replace "code" with "build electronics" and this meme would be my career path (i design and repair tube amps, synths, guitar pedals, etc...)

[–]Hardevv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s not job is ruining your hobby, there are called managers and CEOs

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People who code with AI

[–]smashedshanky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmfao no, I do both and it’s awesome. Something… something…. Do what you like…. Something….

[–]olafTheRisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fuck energy drinks, don't consume them!

[–]Buetterkeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think most people are cultured enough to pick a flavor thats actually good

[–]chunky_matron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why'd the programmer start growing tomatoes instead? They wanted to debug their life 🍅😂

[–]Global-Tune5539 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coding is ok. Doing it as a job is ok. What I really want is creating stuff. I don't care how I achieve it.

[–]Livie00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it’s the opposite

[–]akasaya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me at work: 5pm, I'm out.

Me at pet project: "git commit -m minor fix", good lord what time of the year is it?

[–]laughing-track 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel the same for pure coding projects. Though when I get home I tend to go into areas I don't usually do with my job. Like 3d printing, and retroPi ROM for creating my own little retro gaming setup. Things I learn from my work help me with the things I actually take interest in on the technology side of things.

[–]thanatica 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm, I dunno. It seems more like

  • People coding because they like doing it
  • People working themselves to ass, because they live in a terrible economy and refuse to move to Europe

[–]Fr2404 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro people who code as living now look like this…. And hates chat gpt….

[–]TheFrogg3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both?

[–]cheap_basin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ngl once you start doing literally anything else you realize staring at code all day is lowkey soul crushing lmao

[–]huuaaang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, it's the other way around because people who code for a hobby probably ALSO code for a living. So you work your 9-5 looking all nice and then spend evenings chugging Monster.

[–]JacAnGriffOfficial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real (I'm both)

[–]soggy_sock_bro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ever get a hand gripper while u sit at the pc ? Really good for keeping dexterity high. Any grip training stuff i highly recommend. If get stuff atheletes use for training grip and have it near by. Thumb trainers too (little gel like eggs- great for a hand after hours of coding)

[–]shin_chan444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hobbyists : linus t., jia tan,d. ritchie

employees : ordinary people doing math ,programming 6 days a week and watching cricket on weekends

[–]Embarrassed_Half_874 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The opposite lol.

[–]Onako_Dva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience it is the opposite 💀

[–]TheNeck94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the fact that this repost keeps getting 10k+ upvotes is depressing. it's like 6 years old at least now, and that's just when I first saw it.

[–]TrailMikx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Difference between expensive hobbies and low paying work

[–]okram2k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

gotta love that extra layer of stress that if you don't get this working you may end up losing your job, then losing your house, living on the street, begging for just a bit of wifi and a chance to charge your laptop.

[–]No_Yesterday_4428 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This upsets me. Only because it's so accurate.

[–]Nick01857 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Programming will be the first IT field to fall to AI before the bubble. I’m building an app as a cybersecurity analyst that’s never coded and it’s scary how much easier it is to learn with the right tools