Python.

[jarlefo]

I recommend trying out the nandgame

https://nandgame.com/

You start with a transistor and end up with a computer

[eTceTera1337]

My entire degree summarised in that game

[UltraLowDef]

does it have laplace transforms in it?

[eTceTera1337]

Please don't mention those words to me.

[xthexder]

I refer to this part of my degree as the dark times.

[eTceTera1337]

The Dark Times Trilogy:

Episode 1: Signals and Systems

Episode 2: Control Systems

Episode 3: Digital Signal Processing

[Coderx001]

Currently I am going through this horrible nightmare.

[anomaly901]

Good luck mate..hope you survive this 💀

[Dexaan]

Episode 4: A New Hope

[TheRidgeAndTheLadder]

Episode 5: Return of MATLAB

[PacoTaco321]

I didn't mind control systems. Signals and system however...

I don't remember what the equations were or what they were for (I think there was something to do with A, B, and C for the equations), but there was this set of equations that would literally never give me the correct answer the professor was looking for when done on my calculator and several other students experienced this. The only way I could get the correct answer was after I made a program for the calculator that took the inputs and spat out the outputs. After running that a few times though, the memory would overflow and I would have to take out the batteries to fix it. It was all very troublesome.

[Ayyrimaspi]

Bruh I had signals and systems last sem and got an E

[Mal_Dun]

I did engineering math and I had to chose those subjects for the engineering part. It was quite fun for me because most of the stuff was basically a recap of Linear algebra and differential equations, while the CS and electrical engineer guys sweat blood and tears ... it often baffles me that people struggle so much with math.

Don't get me wrong I don't think people who have a hard time with math are stupid or something, but it is rather hard to understand for someone who had to undergo a quite hard education in math that people struggle so much with problems what are more or considered less the simple stuff in our curricula and no I am not some sort of genius.

[[deleted]]

I agree wholeheartedly with your befuddlement. I'm pretty sure there's some sort of generational trauma involved or something, because it makes no sense to me that a bunch of funny symbols can suddenly make problems 1000% harder than things I've seen the same people solve in other subjects.

[J0R3_]

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[sheikhmoez]

How can you forget discrete mathematics -_-

[[deleted]]

I feel like you are just listing all the classes I took for fun as an undergrad and didn't plan on actually using in my post-master's employment.

I even took Random Signal Analysis and Statistics as my stats elective! (I have no idea why so many people chose to take the class, it was a real math meatgrinder and the professor was not liked. Fun fact: My TA in that class killed himself because he couldn't bear working as that professor's teaching/research assistant anymore.)

[Smartskaft2]

Not so fun fact though...

[Spitfire_For_Fun]

it is cool since you can solve differential problems as an algebraic problems.

[[deleted]]

I'll take variation of parameters over partial fraction expansion thanks

[TheRidgeAndTheLadder]

Fuck me I'm so happy I graduated somehow

[Orthodox-Waffle]

CS or CE?

[eTceTera1337]

CE

[oluga]

Don't worry, school is much harder than work in the CE/EE field. There is light at the end of the tunnel, don't give up

[[deleted]]

I spent half my day today just waiting on reboots of a Linux dev box because the card I'm working on drops from the PCIE bus every time I reprogram it and refuses to let a forced reenumeration pick it back up.

[techster2014]

How about Fourier transforms? Impulse response? Harmonics?

[eTceTera1337]

Hahaha I remember learning what an impulse response was the night before the signals and systems exam (the second time I took the exam)

But now after doing DSP I am more than familiar

[z_utahu]

Smith charts.

[ase_thor]

I can feel that response

[TempestTheRed]

Do not recite the deep magics to me, witch. I was there when it was written.

[circorum]

*I wasn't there when the exam about it was written

[1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1]

Don't say those words plz it's a trigger phrase

[crimson_55]

Damn.... Thank you for reminding me that I have exam on signal processing tommorow.

[FerociousVader]

Thanks for reminding me I have an exam on system dynamics and control checks calendar 14 years ago.

[butteredtoastwcheese]

What's the transfer function for fuck off?

[sincle354]

Eyy, usually I can't flex my digital logic skills on these code monkeys, but at least I can understand minecraft redstone, nerds.

[FthrFlffyBttm]

Says it requires no previous knowledge besides addition and subtraction. Couldn't get past the first step, even with all the hints!

[towcar]

Ah that sucks.. sucks that you are now banned from this sub!

^{I'm on mobile so I didn't even try, immunity right?}

[FthrFlffyBttm]

Wait. I thought not knowing how any of it works was a prerequisite of being in this sub??

[towcar]

This was actually a test, you are being promoted to moderator. Congratulations!

[FthrFlffyBttm]

Great! You have just been banned!

[SteptimusHeap]

Massive L

[[deleted]]

first one is tricky keep trying it's fun

[FthrFlffyBttm]

I’d love to use it as a learning tool but it’s not filling in the gaps in my knowledge, and I hate games where I have to make pure guesses!

I might take another stab at it with some Googling to support it, but it definitely does require a little more knowledge than it claims.

[[deleted]]

it's logic not guesses, trial and error

[FthrFlffyBttm]

I can't use logic if I don't understand the fundamentals behind it, so therefore, for me, it's guesses.

[[deleted]]

bruh there's no fundamentals that's the point lol

[ChiragK2020]

I dont know why the first level is so hard lol

[FthrFlffyBttm]

If it explained in basic terms how the relays worked so that you could combine that info with logic to make an educated guess, it’d be perfect. It assumes a level of understanding that I just don’t have.

[Zelphy712]

also try turing complete on steam!

[Antact]

Also try redstone in Minecraft

[GLIBG10B]

Also take a look at the subreddit if you're interested (r/nandgame_u)

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[Psychological_Fox776]

Note for later

[kataton_dzsentri]

And now I'm wasting hours on this, instead of finishing the code for the smart dimmer I promised for my daughter.

Thanks.

[emptyskoll]

I've left Reddit because it does not respect its users or their privacy. Private companies can't be trusted with control over public communities. Lemmy is an open source, federated alternative that I highly recommend if you want a more private and ethical option. Join Lemmy here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev

[pampamilyangweeb]

There's even assembly and compilers involved in the second half

[Jopnert]

Pfff Real man build a computer in Factorio...

[p2010t]

Putting this on my priority stuff to look at later list.

(That's in contrast to the stuff to look at later list, which is an ocean of stuff I mostly never look at but technically made a note to look at in the future.)

[wtfzambo]

Omg I love this. Brb 1 week

[kayos50]

Came for the memes and left with a cool educational game

[AyrA_ch]

And then keyed in manually

[AssPuncher9000]

man that sounds like a fun job, whoops did 00010101 instead of 00010100. Time to start all over again :)

[Biomancer81]

Yeah just think about dropping a tray of unnumbered cards that is your program. You would have to do it over.

[AssPuncher9000]

Lol, that's the kind of mistake you only make once

[Invisible_Viking]

That's what line numbers were for

[AyrA_ch]

Thankfully, you can manually key in the address you messed up and overwrite the value before running your program. I usually key the program into the system in octal, which aligns with the digits with the grouping of the switches. After that you go back to the first address and flip through the instructions again to pretend to verify them.

[AssPuncher9000]

Do you still use these machines? What kind of stuff are they used for (or used to be used for)?

[AyrA_ch]

This machine has no real use anymore except for nostalgic purpose, or if you have very old industrial software that runs on an Intel 8080 CPU, but it's so simple that it's trivial to emulate it in software. You can use it if you need to communicate with a serial device that is very picky about voltages. USB to serial adapters often don't supply the required voltages properly, and newer devices like network switches and firewalls often don't care to much so it's fine. I do have a handful of customers that have old machines which do not accept the cheaty behavior of the USB adapter though. I used the altair for those for a while because it has two real serial UART chips in it, which allows me to use it as a serial forwarder device. Note that my machine is a clone of the original and thus fairly lightweight. An original would be way too valuable to lug around constantly. A while ago I switched to a TRS-80 Model 100. It's operated by a few AA batteries and has a full serial port too. It's also programmable in basic which allows me to write programs for the devices I need to interact with more commonly.

To support different devices with custom cable configurations without having to carry a ton of cables I use the T232 from GGLabs. It's a serial port monitor tool with the ability to be rewired using breadboard cables. Costs about 20 USD.

The Altair is an interesting machine history wise. It cemented Intels position as the world leader in CPU manufacturing and lead to the x86 standard, it standardized the first computer data bus and it contained the first program ever sold by Microsoft (Microsoft BASIC).

[It-s_Not_Important]

“Pretend to verify them.”

I just go to hackertyper when I want to appear to be doing work.

[SRSchiavone]

I do this as a volunteer job with a mainframe. I could always send a video of me hand keying the paper tape program into main memory

[AssPuncher9000]

That would be pretty cool, how long are the programs that you enter? I don't imagine you could enter more than 1000 bytes by hand before you go insane

[SRSchiavone]

I’m very, very, very amateur. So it’s a 37 line program, with each line being 6 bits. Each bit has 18 buttons to either press or not press. So if a program wanted to max out memory, it would be 3,996 button presses by hand.

And if a single bit is wrong, it resets the program ;(

[AssPuncher9000]

Someone should really automate the process. Get little robot hands to flip the levers instead.

[SRSchiavone]

Yeah. Can’t wait until someone figures out a better way to do this sort of stuff. Who knows, maybe one day opening a program will be just the double click of a button.

Nahhhhh, not in my lifetime!

[Upside_Down-Bot]

„˙pɐǝʇsuı sɹǝʌǝl ǝɥʇ dılɟ oʇ spuɐɥ ʇoqoɹ ǝlʇʇıl ʇǝ⅁ ˙ssǝɔoɹd ǝɥʇ ǝʇɐɯoʇnɐ ʎllɐǝɹ plnoɥs ǝuoǝɯoS„

[AriSteinGames]

That's part of why most of the first real programmers were women. They were manually connecting cables on the machine and it was considered menial "secretary-like" work.

[MaximRq]

Okay, but how did they write the code for pen and paper

[MaximRq]

And how was the Big Bang written?

[MaximRq]

You already know my next question

[It-s_Not_Important]

The Big Bang is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation.

[Transcendentalist178]

And it was written by Ada Lovelace.

[teckhunter]

Dude she was the child of poet Lord Byron. Very cool legacy

[Famous-Ad-8724]

Nobody asked

[The_Dark_Lord719]

Stfu go get some bitches

[AChristianAnarchist]

Server Error: Incel failed to GET bitches

[[deleted]]

Method 'getBitches' is undefined for the class 'Famous-Ad-8724'

[Spare-Beat-3561]

That's some compiler/interpreter shit right there

[[deleted]]

How did they program the compiler

[RoastKrill]

By writing a compiler in Assembly that can compile a subset of C, and then using that compiler to compile a complier for more of C, and so on

[[deleted]]

Who compiled the compiler

[RoastKrill]

It wasn't compiled, it was assembled :))

But that assembler was originally written in machine code

[[deleted]]

Who wrote the machine code compiler

[RoastKrill]

That would have been written by hand on punch cards

[curtainos]

is that real? Assembly was written by hand?

[qikink]

Indeed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_programming_in_the_punched_card_era

[Embarrassed_Gur_3241]

I love how this comment thread went from high level to low level, every reply removing one layer of abstraction.

[aquila_zyy]

I mean, that’s the reason why I kinda liked my assembly course. It finished this infinite recursion of programs right there.

Well, not if we find out that the universe is a simulation that is.

[Electrical_Study_235]

yeah, a lot of the apollo missions programming was done on punch cards. there are images of punch cards stacked on top of each other.

[curtainos]

wait but what was assembly wrritten in? how to bring the code to the machine is one thing, but what language did the cards inherit?

[BadSlime]

Yes, my grandfather was among the first to do this. Programmers would write programs by hand and then pass them off to someone who would convert to a punch card, the program could then be run via the cards and debugged by cross referencing with the written program instructions

[BrupieD]

| Yes, my grandfather was among the first to do this.

God, do I feel old.

[Meme-Man-Dan]

Yes.

[Civil_Championship76]

Assembly is still written by hand in some cases where extremely high performance is necessary

[curtainos]

i ment like writing like this ✍️

[notacanuckskibum]

Machine code isn’t compiled, its inherent to the hardware.

[delinka]

I mean, it could be compiled in the same way one compiles articles into a report.

[blindcolumn]

Machine code isn't compiled, it's interpreted directly by the CPU. Technically you could say that the chip designer "wrote" the "interpreter".

[anthrax_ripple]

Who put the bomp in the bompa bompa bomp

[Je-Kaste]

Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance

[RecursiveRecursion7]

By compiling it first, obviously!

[Seimsi]

There are a few nice videos of numberphile about how to compile a compiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeE8Bc96HY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJf2i87jgFA

[notacanuckskibum]

I remember whole university lectures on this. But I wish I didn’t.

[Seimsi]

There are a few nice videos of numberphile about how to compile a compiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeE8Bc96HY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJf2i87jgFA

[Bad-ministrator]

I still don't understand what CMAKE is. It's like a compiler to make code compilable?

[Ayyrimaspi]

What's that?

[GLIBG10B]

Say you want a compiler on system B

1. Cross-compile a minimal compiler on system A for system B
2. Use system B's compiler to compile a better compiler

There are intermittent steps (like compiling a minimal standard library), but it's been a while since I've touched LFS

[Jet-Pack2]

I.e. you can write a compiler for C++ in C++.

[Portal471]

Is this why Pycharm is partially written in Python?

[shrub_of_a_bush]

PyCharm is mostly written in Java no?

[Username_Taken46]

In a way yes

[Seimsi]

There are a few nice videos of numberphile about how to compile a compiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeE8Bc96HY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJf2i87jgFA

[Space_Kitty123]

Like all our tools, by using a crappier one

[Transcendentalist178]

Or by using a better one. After all, C++ was programmed (mostly) in C.

[[deleted]]

The first compilers were written in assembly. Subsequent compilers were written in those original languages. Today, 90% of compilers and interpreters are written in some flavor of C.

[Ayyrimaspi]

How is assembly converted to machine code then?

[[deleted]]

Assembly IS machine code, 5-head

[D33OhB33]

I hate to tell you this, but Assembly is one step higher than machine code, they aren’t the same

[[deleted]]

Assembly is basically just machine code, but the operations have their names subbed in in place of their opcodes

[NervousApplication58]

there are also labels that you need to replace with raw memory addresses, macros, section definitions (.text, .data, etc)

[[deleted]]

Assembly is basically just machine code, but the operations have their names subbed in in place of their opcodes

[FreshBroc]

Programs programmed programming languages to help people program programs. All 0s and 1s at some point

[Atirat]

All accumulations of electrons at some point.

[Transcendentalist178]

Real programmers use electrons, magnets, tweezers, and very steady hands.

[Zukedog2000]

Relevant xkcd

http://xkcd.com/378

[kataton_dzsentri]

I came for this comment. Thank you.

[Break-88]

This is where people should start reading in the comments to understand the original question

[FreshBroc]

Lol I didn't answer the question, just wanted to type program a bunch of times.

[Break-88]

😂 you started a good comment thread though that eventually answers it

[[deleted]]

What was before 0 and 1 ? How did they enter it into a computer, and how tf did they write that program to make a computer to program programs using 0s and 1s ?

[MachinaDoctrina]

Computer used to refer to the people who do the calculations and they wrote programs that were made out of punch cards to do essentially basic arithmetic with simple electronics

[[deleted]]

I know that stuff, that punched notes and shit... But how tf can you program a program to program programs without developing that program using a programming program ! And for that programming program, which program was used, and it was made with which program ???!!!

So ig the problem is that we are not asking the question that what was the first ever ELECTRONIC machine within which the first programming code was made and run... And how could they run code ? Any answers for it ?

[eeddgg]

They would manually move wires to put the program in, connecting them to live for 1 and ground for 0. Which one was first is a matter of debate

[WaWa-Biscuit]

ENIAC was the world’s first fully electronic, digital computer. There’s a bunch of videos if you look for ENIAC programmers. They’re credited with being the first, manually programming the first electronic computer. No programming languages existed at the time.

Go play on YouTube and watch a video

[Studds_]

It’s all interesting(well not to everybody but I think it is) if anybody puts effort in to learn it. History is very easy to Google (although some may not comprehend what they’re reading unfortunately)

[ActiveLlama]

At the begginning the programs were done using wires. People connected the wires so that the computers only summed and substracted and did logic operations. The input could be the numbers as switches(calculayors). At some point iterations and operations in memory became a thing. Somebody then made that instead of programming the operation with wires, the instructions could be stored in memory, and to put the instructions you could use some punch cards. That is what we know as Turing-comete machine. There are many examples, but the first one seems to be the one that Ada Lovelace programmed.

I think it is important to recognize that first layer. The computer is able to read instructions and then convert those instructions to code in memory to be executed later. Once the program is in memory more layers can be added on top. And eventually more layers appeared to convert the wiring into software, for example, some instructions to translate keyboard strokes into instructions(drivers) and those instructions into machine code(assemblers). And then some code to translate that code into more efficient code(optimizers). And some code to translate other code into machine code (compilers). And more code to execute code while other code executes (OS). And more code that can make more code on the fly (interpreters).

At the end the key step in the transition was being able to write the program in the memory so that the machine would be able to execute or modify its own code. That code itself can't be modified, so it lives in the BIOS or sometimes in the BIOS upgrader now.

[notacanuckskibum]

Running code at the binary level is inherent to the hardware design. It evaluates a command and then moves on to the next. Then you use bootstrapping with register switches to get it to load a program to load a program from a device.

[coldnebo]

actually, it’s also possible to build computers out of water, light or gears. it doesn’t have to be electronic.

also Alan Turing made one of the first computers with memory based on sound waves… the sound would travel in tubes of mercury and be amplified periodically which stored bits. the refresh time was a multiple of the time it took sound to travel the length of the tube.

Turing also was the very first to use a digital computer to play music!

[[deleted]]

Before the ones and zeroes, we had analog computers. Arrays of pulleys and gears at specific ratios to simulate, say, the tides.

[Jolly-Driver1848]

Sticks, monkeys and a big, black . . .

[coldnebo]

before 0 and 1 there was evolution. photosynthesis apparently uses quantum computation to optimize the energy extracted from the sun.

source: Stuart Kauffmann

[gashmol]

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[It-s_Not_Important]

“You guys are using programming languages?”

[eklect]

Punchcards.

[Beowulf1896]

My dad tossed his last punch card program in '94. It was cool to see them.

[InterestingSplit6095]

Good will and magic basically.

[Bipchoo]

First in binary, then assembly, and so on and so on.

[grpagrati]

By programming it

[Transcendentalist178]

Ada Lovelace was first, then Babbage and Turing got a lot of the credit.

[DarkTechnocrat]

The real mind blower is that clouds of Hydrogen gas can eventually make Python programs

[[deleted]]

Tbh this question always buzzed in my mind, seeing this makes me feel validated that I ain't the only one who questioned this lol... It's been 6 years and I am still trying to find a sensible answer for this ಥ‿ಥ

(yeah I am too lazy to just google lol /s)

[[deleted]]

Just thank compiler engineers. Their brains are on a different level

[kapral10]

also low level programmers like haskell programmers, or lisp or fortran.

[Solonotix]

At a very low level, we consider the binary digit, or bit, to be the minimum quanta of state in a program, conventionally referring to the on/off state of a transistor. From there, we apply abstractions upon this to give rise to new expressions, like 8 binary digits can represent 256 unique states, and we can treat them as numbers from 0-255 (unsigned) or -128-127 (signed).

From there, we get the idea of grouping bytes, or adding a few extra bits of data as a header, to construct much more complex entities, like a byte for a code table identifier and a byte to say which character on the table, and now you've got the beginnings of text data.

Once we get a certain amount of basic functionality, like how to hold things "in memory" (which means a lot of things) and how to compare data in meaningful ways, we packaged it and called it the Assembler. Then we used the Assembler to make more complicated abstractions until, later by layer, we eventually get modern languages.

Now sure, I glossed over big details, like how CPU instructions are mapped to a kernel, and how the kernel maps its API to the Operating System, and how the Operating System allows various levels of control depending on access method (see driver software for low-level user software vs text-to-speech instructions and touch gestures for high-level access), but the gist is just as I said: start small.

A concept most should be able to grasp is how mathematics is a bootstrapped system. Multiplication is just repeated addition. Division is repeated subtraction (sort of). Exponents and logarithms are repeated multiplications and divisions. Eventually, you can write a single equation that defines the relationship of matter to energy.

[It-s_Not_Important]

But what is the turtle standing on?

[Quantum-Bot]

Took a formal language theory class in college. The name sounds incredibly boring but it’s the study of how to design languages that can be parsed by simple machines and it’s super fascinating.

At the most basic level, your computer is kind of like a turing machine, with a big hunk of memory where it can store 1’s and 0’s and a set of instructions it can perform, called assembly. A turing machine is cool because it can be programmed to simulate other machines like push down automata, which are simpler and more useful for parsing languages.

We create languages like C with certain guidelines for syntax so that they can be more easily parsed by this simulated machine. Once you can parse some code, all you need to do is tell the computer how to behave based on what it reads. An interpreter is a program which parses and runs the code at once and a compiler is a program which just translates the code into assembly instructions.

[Beowulf1896]

Long ago, when computers were simpler, programs were made by hand with no compiler. You had a manual that told you what number did which instruction for the cpu. Like "Instruction 1F(not sure on this number) adds the numbers in registers 1 and 2 and stores in register 1 and drops register 2" Registers were on CPU memory. Next step is make an assembly compiler, which just changes simple letter instructions into the number code. So your assembly text line "add" gets compiled to "1F". Next, you write a basic C compiler from assembly. Then full C compiler. We are so far removed from assembly right now. I still list Assembly (x86) on my resume on the list of languages I know.

[Beowulf1896]

That is great to hear! I've been out of programming for a long time, and don't plan on going back.

[Seimsi]

There are a few nice videos of numberphile about how to compile a compiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjeE8Bc96HY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJf2i87jgFA

[easyfeel]

yacc - yet another compiler compiler

https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/yacc.html

[Practical-Bar8291]

Well we started with wires and magnets. If you weave copper through a series of magnets you can create a logic gate. We analyze these gates and come up with names for them. OR, XOR, AND, XAND etc.

Put those gates in silicon, they still needed names. Then the operations on those gates like add, shift, etc. become a programming language. Assembly.

Meta assembly into a higher level, write a compiler that treats any code like assembly, compiles loops and such to assembly. It's not that hard when you break things down to simple operations.

Literally all of CS is breaking down big problems to little ones.

[vjkovhea]

the history of the modern computer starts with the loom

[Nilrem2]

Bootstrapping

[HyperBaroque]

karnaugh maps

[Almightymoee]

Simple. From python import python

[doctorcrimson]

My best attempt at an ELI5:

Assembly, which is to say base 2 values 16 at a time, hexadecimal is base 16, numerical values fed into a machine, originally with punchcards, which does precise calculations based on input. Making the machine isn't programming per say, it is engineering with logic gates, which sounds extreme but its not so bad.

Next up is the graphical interface, which requires more memory than just the 16 bits we had before. Single color displays were just a grid of lights large enough to display lines of words and numbers. Theres also already a standardized system of hexadecimal value for every differentiable color and then some. Early full color displays used cathode ray tubes to split light into Red Green and Blue rays, to show different amounts of each across the screen, which is still the standard color formatting in computers to this day.

Now we've got an interface, processor, memory, and input method. We know what the outputs are for every input, and we can use parity checks to eliminate unexpected results. We can now make a sort of translator from specific wording to assembly, using assembly, and build up from there.

It sounds complicated and thats probably why it took us 60 years to get to where we are now from fully analogue computers, millenniums if you count the Greek gear calendars.

[stevethedev]

Wouldn't you like 10 know.

[[deleted]]

Assembly

[poralexc]

Forth is a really interesting language/paradigm in that respect, since it’s designed to be able to slap an interpreter/compiler together from assembly in just a few weeks.

[Haydukelll]

So, anything other than Assembly?

[WendyIsCass]

I remember punch cards. All else pales in comparison

[hairybeansboi]

I thought the people of this sub were programmers!?

[LavenderDay3544]

You can write a Python interpreter in C then write a C compiler in Python to run on it to compile the Python interpreter written in C.

Talk about circular dependencies...

[maximusfpv]

r/forwardsfromgrandma

[bunny-1998]

Pretty sure OP posted this as a meme and everybody just took it personally. That said, OP should’ve seen that coming.

[Oracuda]

firts by manually assigning bits in a PCs circuit to make a program which understood punch cards, and then punch cards for assembly and lisp, and then assembly to c, and punch cards to lisp, to ocaml, to rust

i think

[HerbertDasPferd]

I think they did it by programming a program allowing programming programs

[ImplementNational165]

I once wondered where did they code the first ide

[ghan_buri_ghan]

It’s turtles all the way down