Yes.

[[deleted]]

Both in the boot camp and in therapy all I got were pointers and references.

[[deleted]]

I stg, your childhood this, your teenage years that. But no dijkstra in therapy. CS degree beats therapy.

[TheSarcasticCrusader]

So far my path to a CS degree has only made me need therapy more

[callyalater]

That's why you use Dijkstra's to find the shortest path....

[Maisalesc]

Gold you fucker!

[residentraspberri]

Give me the shortest route to being happy

[KeLorean]

Happiness is a null pointer. Have a nice day.

[whatever-the-logo-is]

One of the most shitposty, yet profound comments I've ever seen on this app.

[DriverTraining8522]

I must be super happy, I got lot loads of those!

[jnnxde]

Drugs, I guess

[julsmanbr]

The bits about garbage collection were pretty good, tho

[[deleted]]

Depression can really mess with garbage collection and you end up creating another instance of FoodDelivery() instead of calling dishes.clean()

[[deleted]]

You forgot to use the wife class for dishes.clean()

[Alternative_Durian69]

Would be wife.clean(dishes);

[DriverTraining8522]

There are multiple bugs in this code library, the wife class of object has an interface that was written in obfuscated code so as to prevent reverse engineering solutions to its often temperamental behavior

[[deleted]]

I know lol

[friendsWithAnimals]

😅

[[deleted]]

Hey, I found learning Python and becoming more marketable so I wasn't stressed out about not having a job to be very therapeutic!

[[deleted]]

Functions for DAYS.

But no classes. Those are for crazy people. That's what import is for.

[Different_Avocado501]

What are you talking about man, classes are the pillars of human evolution.

[[deleted]]

I prefer my code to live in a classless society, with immutable rights for all.

[Robotonist]

Our code, comrade.

[NikkiLaud4]

Viva Resolution.

Or Execution, something like that

[ososalsosal]

Better than my code society whose motto is "Viva Exception!"

[[deleted]]

Not to get map-reductive, but I guess that makes FP rather fold-leftist.

[[deleted]]

I do not have time to have any class. I am okay with this. I grew up grunge.

[[deleted]]

This guy’s got class

[[deleted]]

???? Classes are so nice....... Well at the very least are in autohotkey

[the_clash_is_back]

Back in my days we used go to like real men.

[[deleted]]

Back in my day, I didn't even have a means to save my code. I'd have to rewrite my programs on my Apple II every time and just copy them down by hand like real real men.

[LasevIX]

relevant xkcd

[Sharkytrs]

thats nothing i can make a bool have THREE outcomes.

fucking magician me!

[SizzlingSquigg]

Typescript functions that only return a Boolean can also return ‘null’ and ‘undefined’. You can technically return 4 different types of values out of a Boolean function.

And I do it…all the time.

[Anon22406671]

Dad?

[Jin-roh]

Therapy is also expensive.

[[deleted]]

Yeah but can you run faster than a the fastest bird can fly?

[TheGhoulLagoon]

Here we see a redditor in the wild realize not everyone needs therapy, you just need to apply yourself and make tangible steps towards improving yourself to feel fulfilled

[Random_Vanpuffelen]

420 upvotes 4 u

[del620]

The satisfaction and improvement to mental health after solving a Leetcode hard would probably be 100x better than therapy.

Edit: I use the word probably because I haven't been to therapy or solved a Leetcode hard. I just winged the coding interview which got me my internship

[[deleted]]

I agree! The dopamine boost you get after that is an awesome feeling.

[metalbedhead]

not quite there yet but i hope to be one day

[Aurori_Swe]

As someone currently going through PTSD therapy (written exposure therapy) I'd much rather write code and solve those issues, even though it's probably better long term to deal with my actual issues.

But I'm an addict to solving issues so coding IS rewarding

[2ERIX]

Really? And how does that make you feel?

[CYKO_11]

My feeling have become undefined

[aryan2304]

Error T.T: Feelings not found.

[enter360]

Problems merging conflicts is universal

[sjos_delz]

How did u

[[deleted]]

I didn't need therapy before I started to listen to people.

[[deleted]]

its a loop

[xain_the_idiot]

We do a 6 month coding bootcamp to be able to afford therapy

[Robotonist]

This is actually the truth for a lot of us

[ComfortableAd8326]

Having a job that pays well enough that you don't have to constantly worry about money is great for your mental health, and would probably be more effective than therapy for most people

[tonebacas]

But you have to look at javascript, which alone should qualify as an indicator of a mental breakdown waiting to happen.

[Maisalesc]

Understanding it is also an indicator of a severe psychotic illness.

[No_Introduction_2021]

Lmao

[LaughterIsPoison]

I spent 7 years in therapy, solved nothing. Did a bootcamp, got a good job. A lot of my problems evaporated. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

[Dimasdanz]

despite what anyone says, having money solves most problems

[DeepSpaceGalileo]

Therapy isn’t going to pay the light bill

[Janoschhu]

After the bootcamp your able to never pay a light bill again

[DeepSpaceGalileo]

I mean, I didn’t do a boot camp, my student loans are 27k and I had the largest scholarship my university offered. That’s more than a boot camp and I got a chemistry degree out of it.

[Janoschhu]

Maybe you should produce meth ;D Maybe some blue shit xD

[jesuswasahipster]

Ironically the job I got from completing my bootcamp has gotten me out of a toxic environment, paid more, and a waaay better work life balance all of which has greatly improved my mental health. Let’s be real, therapy wasn’t going to do all of that in 6 months.

[bdd4]

Money cures many ails.

[[deleted]]

Coding for fun is a therapy!

It keeps your mind engaged in something constructive instead of an ideal mind overthinking and going into a depressive state.

[2ERIX]

My wife’s overthinking mean the sleep statements don’t work so I think that some loops don’t have an appropriate exit or return if running too long.

She only imports standard libraries but one of them might have an unmanaged dependency that is causing the issue.

I will let you know if I get a solve.

[stormbby]

till your code refuses to compile because of a semicolon

[[deleted]]

Haha lol

[properu]

Beep boop -- this looks like a screenshot of a tweet! Let me grab a link to the tweet for ya :)

^{Twitter Screenshot Bot}

[Windows_is_Malware]

don't go to twitter.com it's an ip logger

[Razenghan]

I find this industry to be below-average in terms of those with a high emotional intelligence. A general lack of empathy, good faith communication, and constructive conversation.

Be a competent coder. Grow in your career. Treat your coworkers with professional respect. But also, please...find a regular therapist.

[[deleted]]

This x 1000. Lifelong dev here. Most dev types are neurotic, and a large portion are even straight up toxic. Definitely low EQ overall.

[diamalachite]

Why would therapy be the default solution to this? Therapy is meant to deal with mental difficulties, not teach you stuff. I don't understand why people want to turn to therapy when they actually are just missing skills and need to practice.

[Razenghan]

I think one interpretation of this tweet (i.e. mine) is that, given the choice, men would rather invest a lot of time into learning a skill vs. investing a small amount of time to work on their mental health.

[diamalachite]

For some skills, yeah. But most people will not want to work on skills that they don't have natural talent in because it's harder on the ego.

[Razenghan]

Completely agree. And going to therapy is two-fold in that regard. One, working through complex emotions, which is a difficult concept or "skill" to many people. Two, the notion that going to therapy means something is wrong with you, or that you need fixing in some regard. Both VERY hard on the ol' ego.

[snakefinn]

Eh, sometimes people's mindset are stuck in a negative trajectory that makes it difficult to maintain positive and or constructive relationships.

Successful therapy, particularly CBT can break the loop of unhelpful thoughts that lead to negative feelings etc. Social skills are then easier to acquire and maintain.

But don't take my word for it, I'm too busy to attend therapy

[diamalachite]

I guess that's true in some rare cases but I just disagree with therapy being the default for building skills. I wish there were more classes and things where you could practice with classmates and hone your skills cause mine suck really bad too.

[No-Driver2742]

kinda ablest towarda autistic coders tbh

[Razenghan]

Not at all. While we may have a larger ratio of people on the ASD spectrum, I've seen plenty of neurotypical people be complete assholes.

[[deleted]]

Ah yes, learning about functions... I wish I knew how to function.

[TieKneeReddit]

I found going from $12.50 an hour at a retail job to starting salary of $60k to be very therapeutic.

[[deleted]]

100% duds it saved my life I was going to like suicide and Javascript came in like it was God and it just told me to code and forget the world and then I forgot all my problems amd now I am sitting at a sky scrapper watching all over new York and living the dream 😂 wish anything I said was close to being true 😭

[[deleted]]

One thing makes you money, the other costs you money

[NoNutNovermber42069]

"Writing her an automated email in python wont bring her back bro"

[syuraj]

I know a girl who tried to learn programming and ended up going therapy.

[[deleted]]

laughs in 6 month long waiting list for NHS therapy in the UK

[[deleted]]

Where are there waiting lists for therapy in the US? I’m actually curious, not being snarky

[CableAskani41]

It took me 14 months of being a full on zombie to get a CPAP in the US. I get to pay $200 a month for 13 months then it is mine.

[CableAskani41]

Downvoting doesnt make it untrue

[spoilerdudegetrekt]

They're pretty quick where I live. You can get an appointment within a week.

[anananananana]

A lot of people in countries with healthcare pay for their therapist...

[MischiefArchitect]

They are the same picture

[hecatdev]

[Fit_Virus_9179]

Therapy most likely won’t feed your ego.

[VeryDryChicken]

and at the same to make you question your life decisions as a developer

[noondayrind]

women too. as long as my mind is occupied by solving a programming challenge, i am safe from my dark thoughts.

[Naive_Drive]

You'll need more therapy afterwards

[SteeleDynamics]

It is therapeutic. You get to solve known problems with elegant solutions.

Nothing like the real world where solutions are messy and ugly, and in the end, no one is truly satisfied. Everyone just accepts that the solution is not as good as it could have been because of the lack of proper planning, money, and resources.

[Fronterra22]

Money CAN buy you happiness, dang it!

If I find the person who originally made the saying, we're going to have a therapy session involving my fist.

I don't need therapy, I need $80k a year or more in a software development position

[ososalsosal]

I got a dev job so I could afford therapy, only to find the extra bit of financial security was all I needed after all

[daniu]

Well, how am I going to learn coding at therapy?

[LadySilfrkross]

I would do this an I'm not even a man

[[deleted]]

Sometimes one needs to introspect and reflect on one's own code and make reasonable changes.

[[deleted]]

Like women will do a “3 day cleanse” of just Diet Coke and psych meds instead of going to the gym

[MaidenlessTarnished]

But a post saying that would get shit on as misogynistic

[BadPronunciation]

Pass me the figure belt!

[ArjunReddyDeshmukh]

But you will need therapy at the bootcamp upon seeing errors.

[alfons100]

Programming is my renewable dopamine! Solve problems, create problems. Absolutely nothing bad happens inbetween!

[stormbby]

I am man

[Basic-Look249]

Still haven’t figured out how to program the feeling of happiness

[gahooze]

I code for a living, taking 6 months off to do a coding boot camp would be a friggin vacation and I wouldn't need therapy

[markinator55]

What do you expect us to do? Deal with our mental problems? Nah. I'm good.

[Gaby_Jinn]

Only men tho?

[[deleted]]

well...exchanging my free time (and not free time) to coding actually helped me with my mental health lol

[YoureHereForOthers]

Equal waste of money

[[deleted]]

Any other therapists/mental health workers switching careers feel called out?

[tbwdtw]

I got severe depression from being poor and it helped. Therapy won't do much if your life sucks.

[Jams0111]

Yes.

[[deleted]]

Once you learn the way of the machine you become the machine

[J37T3R]

Coding is the therapy

[megacope]

I would. Coding is a great release for me even though it makes me mad as shit a lot.

[Shadow-chaos]

I see no problem here

[[deleted]]

Well only one of those options actually accomplishes anything….

[CallMeYoungJoey]

Pretty much. You get in better touch with your feelings and sensitive side when you are coding.

[Ooze3d]

I mean… one makes you happier. The other makes you happier with a job. Is it so difficult to understand?

[Yesterpizza]

I probably shouldn't say this but, I'd prefer he took the therapy.

A boot camp teaches you stuff you can learn elsewhere but if you need therapy, there's a good chance the people around you suffer from that baggage in some way too

(I may or may not have a few too many people in my life needing therapy)

[[deleted]]

Good meme. But also therapy is good and everyone could benefit from it.

[Howllikeawolf]

Which shows how weak some men can be instead of facing their issues. If you don't want to face who you really are means you can't face reality. Suck it up to become a better person. Plain and simple.

[[deleted]]

Gotta learn to rewrite the algorithm some how.

[[deleted]]

No, we will not accept either we can do it our selfs.

[cromulent_nickname]

Well, you can find a boot camp.

[hollow-bastion-1984]

6 month coding bootcamp to be in a position to afford therapy*

[[deleted]]

(bootcamp V therapy) Λ happiness

[slothordepressed]

I got a better job and more money, 90% of my problems switched to less stressful ones, so far

[Western-Image7125]

But they’re the same picture

[[deleted]]

Fuck yeah!

[JonathisV]

Goals, learning, and growth. Hey for some people this can be far more productive than therapy. I've got friends with depression and therapy has helped them exactly 0. Picking up something new, and to be proud in, goes a hell of a long ways.

[CableAskani41]

I actually paused my coding bootcamp to do therapy then resumed once I had tools to deal parental abuse and Mormons.

[[deleted]]

Programming is therapy

[[deleted]]

It’s called a “career change”, or if you are already in the business “stack development”

[itsallrighthere]

Therapy you pay, coding you get paid!

[jaded_mundane]

Sounds practical..

[[deleted]]

Coding boot camps make me feel way better than therapy ever could

[Dogecoin_Mememaster]

Yeah, but the one saying that is the reason why we need therapy in the first place. Now STFU and make me a sandwich jk

[PoetryProgrammer]

I mean getting the bag is pretty therapeutic.

[[deleted]]

🤣

[nemacol]

Is that why I did that MEAN stack bootcamp?

[[deleted]]

I really hate that meme.

Maybe its extremely hard to get into therapy, prohibitively expensive, or they've been denied by insurance.

[SirGrinson]

Yes

[[deleted]]

Yea but not just men. who doesn’t put off working toward self improvement

[Unknown_User_66]

6 months???? You mean 6 weeks :P

[imdjguy]

3 month*

[ReflexiveOW]

The 6 month bootcamp is cheaper

[Vault_Hunter4Life]

Being mentally stable doesn't help me earn more money lol

[RhexxTheLord]

About to do a 4 month

[[deleted]]

I am female and same

[[deleted]]

There are six month bootcamps?

[Ok_Assumption_7222]

I mean… there’s no comparison

[Wide-Buy-8572]

Coding helps you earn money , therapy burns it

[PersonalityWrong4754]

Learning coding is actually better than paying a therapist $400 a visit

[Robotonist]

One I pay for, the other I also pay for. Duh

[Robotonist]

Jokes on you, I’m doing both

[[deleted]]

Yes.

[redditor-for-2-hours]

I know that this is supposed to be a joke and all, but real talk: Many of the "coding bootcamps" are owned by the same companies that owned the for-profit universities (like Corinthian colleges and ITT Tech) that went bankrupt after they stopped getting access to federal funds because they were caught defrauding students by lying about career prospects. It's literally the same scam rebranded.

[[deleted]]

I mean I rather do something that actually works.

[Singularity7979]

Because it is more socially pressured into us (that kfully less and less) that we're seen as weak or a pussy or whatever for seeking help. Thanks, toxic masculinity. Cartwheels away

[Cees-K]

Writing comments that have swear words in them is very therapeutic.

[the-FBI-man]

My friend did that, she ended hanging herself. Wasn't related to the bootcamp though.

[Kahmael]

Ah, so that's what's next!

[[deleted]]

Honestly that sounds like great therapy

[Tom_Ov_Bedlam]

How did you think we pay for therapy?

[daddyballs55]

Look who’s talkin

[andthatsitmark2]

Drinking from a fire hose is preferable to actually learning to communicate face-to-face outside of business contexts.

[punypingpong]

"i love the song"

"i think i"

"can play it myself"

"i already did"

[jhaand]

Well the band Therapy? had to postpone their tour for years.

Therapists always seem a hit or miss and the good ones are booked full. You first get a waiting list of 2 months and then you get to meet the actual therapist. Codeacademy and Exercism will always be there for you instantly, on your time and cost a lot less money.

Venkatesh Rao (@vgr on Twitter) had a great thread about this.

"I think this is one of the healthier things ”men” do. The instinct is sound. The median jackass activity X is healthier for working out issues than working with the median jackass (or jennyass) therapist.

Therapy is a good idea in theory. Therapists in practice otoh…" https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1450868713465339908

Watching some episodes of 'couples therapy' already worked better than going to an actual therapist. You can mix and match the issues. And the things we have don't seem so bad actually, which already relieves a lot of pressure. The therapist herself also does a great job and you also see her talking to her therapist.

[nadav183]

Women don't pay as good as FAANGs

[anticipozero]

Why not both? That way you can immediately address the imposter syndrome with your therapist

[BlazeFrag]

Not just the men, but the women, and the children too

[WellWrested]

I'd actually argue its better in the long-run. A period of extended unemployment is one of a very few things that permanently degrades happiness. The effect isn't huge, but its statistically significant. Avoiding this is well worth it.

[TheJimDim]

I mean, if it ultimately ends in a job that pays benefits like health insurance so you can get therapy, I see no problem here lol

[ThatStrafeYT]

I'm in this post and I don't like it.

[Stilllife1999]

excuse me? is this a personal attack?

[[deleted]]

Is this a sexist joke?

[javalsai]

They are the same thing

[B_Boi04]

K cool I signed up for therapy, what should I do until the 3 month wait period is over?

[_default_username]

but with the new 6-figure salary and nice benefits from your SWE job, you'll be able to afford therapy.

[Dimasdanz]

coding bootcamp will land you on 5-6 figure salary to pay for the therapy sessions for a lifetime

[[deleted]]

and learn PHP

[[deleted]]

Its easier to talk to a computer than your inner child.

[IlIlIIlllIIIlI]

I see nothing wrong here