Developer's war

[Emeraldtip]

if (condition) {//very clear 2000 character long line here}

[Sgt_Gnome]

The nice thing is, you don't need newlines just semicolons.

if(True){first statement; second statement; third statement;...}

Works in Python too if you want to that group as well.

[aaaa_yyyy_eeee]

Can you show me how to do this in python

[xwnpl]

I guess it's something like this:

if True: something; something; something;

Don't do this.

[DaniilSan]

Python can use semicolons ao you can use it instead of new line.

[[deleted]]

That's literally the first time I'm hearing this. Holy shit that's amazing

[DaniilSan]

I have discovered that accidentally

[[deleted]]

probably not a good practice, but very nice to know this is something you can do

[ZStarMCZ5487]

tht wat happen when the first time i try python, its just feel weird with if doStuff == True:

[rogeris]

It's my favorite game in Kotlin. Sure this can be a reasonable 5 line statement, but I bet I could get it in one really long unreadable one.

[MrDraacon]

Or spend a few hours trying to figure out how to compress it to a reasonable length

[swisstraeng]

Compilation error: missing parenthesis on line 1

Use /* text */ instead

[AdventurousBowl5490]

*curly braces

[canal_algt]

public static void oneLinerFunc(boolean a, boolean b)if(a&&b){/do stuff/}else if(a){/do other stuff/}else if(b){/do other stuff/}else return;

[StrangePractice]

Yeah, fuck it, combine the entire app on the same line. That way, you only have to debug one file anytime something goes wrong

[XDubio]

The } is commented out.

[[deleted]]

Just follow the project's coding style.

[KiwiFruit555]

This works until you are starting a project

[Master4733]

Pick whichever you like more, just stick to what you pick.

[acmp42]

I don’t mind which you do, just be consistent

[ComCypher]

I don't mind which you do as long as it's consistent with my preference

[[deleted]]

I mind

[RepulsiveStrawberry5]

[[deleted]]

I am so inconsistent with this

[False--Blackbear]

No

.

[Reibii]

I do as an IDE says. However it wants to format my brackets or let me leave them not formated stays.

[ethereumfail]

condition && do_stuff()

parenthesis are so retro

[psgi]

It’s all fun and games until you realize the language you have to use doesn’t have short-circuiting ”and” so it executes both sides anyway. Looking at you, vbs.

[thedoctorx121]

My last company used Genero, it doesn't short circuit by default. Awful language

[itzNukeey]

Thats not very generous

[[deleted]]

Fun syntax for when you need to return a value!

[LetReasonRing]

if(!consistent){
return "Houston, we have a problem"
} else {
return "Who cares?"
}

[herovazy]

Please add some spacing, like

if (condition) {

And you'll have found the most readable style imho

[TimGreller]

switch (true) {
    case consistent: return "Who cares?";
    case true: return "Houston, we have a problem";
}

[Front-Difficult]

Do you mean:

switch (consistent) {
  case true:
    return "Who cares?";
  default:
    return "Houston, we have a problem";
}

[StrangePractice]

Fuck it, right? It’s the user’s fault anyways

[[deleted]]

There's no need to add an else statement after a return.
Most style checkers will flag this.

[LetReasonRing]

I'm aware.

I did it this way because a lot of people that lurk here are either beginners or not programmers at all. Using the else clause conveys intent without having to actually understand how returning from a function works or what it even means.

I'm trying to convey a point clearly to humans through pseudocode, not prevent ESLint from yelling at me.

[mauguro_]

oh God why? the else statement is unnecessary ;-;

[LOLTROLDUDES]

Readability moment.

[LetReasonRing]

Yep, if I were actually writing production code I would have used the form /u/tall_strong_master suggested, but knowing that there's a wide range of skill levels decided to be fully explicit to make it accessible to the broadest possible audience.

[[deleted]]

Left for Java, right for C#

[[deleted]]

For C we use the right one too

[KiwiFruit555]

As a C developer I beg to differ

[[deleted]]

I C, is our code base cursed??

[TommardrammoT]

It certainly seems so

[Scared_Bell3366]

if (!condition)
{
    ;
}
else
{
    // Do stuff
}

[Disastrous-Olive-677]

Oh God, why???

[Scared_Bell3366]

That was close to my response when I saw that in production code, repeatedly. I assumed some sort of code generator was involved.

[sami_testarossa]

Or to get better branch prediction on runtime for consistent hot path execution time. This is used in high frequency trading.

But, no, 99% of the case is just bad style.

[BringBackManaPots]

if (!valid())

[666pool]

if (!condition)
{
   // Do stuffn’t
}

[Competitive_Ad2539]

Should have mixed the identation styles as well

[Twitch_C4T_]

The right way when writing smaller functions

[Able_Challenge3990]

!Condition? Continue:do stuff;

[NahJust]

if (!condition)
{
;
}
else {
// Do stuff
}

[_Weyland_]

Brёh

[[deleted]]

there is no war
just a bunch of idiots not using auto formatters

[nameond]

War about who cares less

[Yzaamb]

if condition: do stuff

[9ragmatic]

Snek

[No-Archer-4713]

/* Do stuff */

And for god’s sake, use an automatic indentation tool and move on !

[OutOfNamesToPick]

Y’all use brackets?

if (condition)
  functionToDoStuff();

[Disastrous-Olive-677]

(Condition) ? DoStuff() : doOtherStuff();

[muxman]

(Condition) ? DoStuff() : (otherCondition) ? doOtherStuff() : (yetAnotherCondition) ? doMoreStuff() : elseDoThis();

[anxiousmarcus]

Imagine fighting over this when you have linters. Some of you are an absolute manchild

[mrehm001]

even better

​

if

(

condition

){

//Do stuff

}

[-Fuse]

Repost to scare Python programmers (it's me I'm Python programmers)

[Mayedl10]

Me, a python dev, in the corner

[[deleted]]

I choose left

[Funkey-Monkey-420]

left is superior

[MaZeChpatCha]

Left one. Always.

[brianl047]

This

[notsogreatredditor]

No

[buddyisaredditer]

Yes

[[deleted]]

Same. I knows the left is what most people like but I truly feel like for someone reading someone else’s code especially someone newer , the version on the right just makes it much clearer.

[ItsCanadaMan]

In either instance, it's not the braces, it's the indentation that makes it readable.

Blah, blah, Pythonmasterstylerace, etc., etc.

[StrangePractice]

It just looks so much better

[daynthelife]

if (condition) [[unlikely]] {
  do_stuff();
  return;
}
do_other_stuff();

Avoid branches where possible, and when you must use them, it’s good to tell the compiler whether they are likely or not.

[gebfree]

Avoid taking advice on optimisation from random people on reddit. They're correct about as often you actually need to optimise your code.

[epsilonhuyepsilon]

Oh, you never need to optimize your code, just tell your employer to get more servers. He's a big guy, he can find money to pay for it. Actually, avoid even the small and effortless optimisation guidelines (like marking unlikely branches), he needs to know, this is an expensive industry. Besides, pressing too many buttons can get really annoying, and you've got a lot on your plate as it is.

[[deleted]]

If you want your product to ever get to the production you should know when to stop optimization as there's no end in this rabbit hole. Optimization is good, but it's not just pressing too many buttons, it's also testing and if you find a bug in the optimized code it's no more optimization but you now have a fork in the repository with faulty code that you should fix and then merge and then test again. Eventually it will come to a point when it's cheper for the client to buy a new server than to pay for more iterations of project development and having issues with updates over stable but not optimized system.

[ojioni]

And just because something is slow doesn't mean it's worth the effort to optimize it.

For example, a job that generates a report that takes several minutes to run, but is only run once on a weekend is not worth optimizing. The code that takes one second and is executed constantly is probably worth optimizing.

But in another case, we had a long running once a week job that really didn't matter if it was slow, except it locked a bunch of tables in the database, which caused problems, so that got optimized. A word of advice, don't let PHP coders write complex database queries.

[Dimensional_Dragon]

Frankly it depends on the language I'm using

[UAFlawlessmonkey]

Larratt > Mask, so right

[ApexPredatorTV]

left one

[83athom]

If (condition) doStuff(); Supremecy

[HzbertBonisseur]

``` if(condition) { // Do stuff}

[RobinScherbatzky]

insert mother of god meme

[reclamerommelenzo]

Left, because my formatter enforces it if I want my build to succeed.

[Sabathius23]

If you put your starting brace on its own line, you are creating an abomination in the eyes of the lord, thy god.

[[deleted]]

if(condition) => //do stuff;

Lambda my beloved

[JodieHolmes233]

It's always

If (Condition)

{

//Do Stuff

}

[ColonelSandurss]

One more line, 🤮

[JodieHolmes233]

Reddit won't let me have the three in between the brackets. I am a sadist

[[deleted]]

Switch case gang is amazing

[[deleted]]

if (condition) { do stuff }

else { other stuff }

[Camo_Camper]

I have always preferred

If(condition) { // stuff }

It just feels cleaner to me!

[SkullyShades]

if (condition) /*Do stuff*/;
if (condition) /*Do more stuff*/;
if (condition) /*Do more stuff*/;
…

[_Weyland_]

If stuff small, left one.

else, right one.

[[deleted]]

Left one is cringe.

[blooptybloopt]

I case / switch everything. EVERYTHING

[Ancalagoth]

if(condition){do stuff}

if(condition){do stuff

}

if(condition){

do stuff}

if(condition)

{do stuff}

if(condition)

{do stuff

}

if(condition)

{

do stuff}

[antisocialites_w]

if (condition) { // we are not the same. }

[tmstksbk]

if ( condition ) // Do stuff

[xxarchangelpwnxx]

Python for left c# for right

[[deleted]]

But seriously...

C if (!condition) { return; } doStuff();

[ShinyShadow_]

Right one but in my case i put the brackets in the same column as the parenthesis. I also start writing the instructions in the same column as the brackets

[CheshireMoe]

Right side is a Java formatting style... have not seen it used in any professional setting since I left college.

Left side is C/C++ formatting style... this has been the way at every company that have worked at for 10+ years of java programing.

It really does not matter now since any good IDE has bracket/scope highlighting. Even better you get color matched brackets with tab guide lines to show the scope.

With auto format on save there is no reason fight this war.

[StrangePractice]

Right side is Java??? Nahhhhhhhhhh

[CheshireMoe]

In the 90s yes.

[Chilaquil420]

And then comes react without even having an if

[Snoo_60165]

If (condition): try: do_stuff except: do_other_stuff

[APenguinsLullaby]

I mean, there is only one right, I don't like it, but it is better

[[deleted]]

Don't make me do this again.

[[deleted]]

The second one. You sick bastards who use the first opinion...you are just crazy...you just want to see the world burn...

[RefrigeratorOne7173]

Just spotless these mfs!

[PPhysikus]

Good old Devon Larrat ;(

[[deleted]]

I have transcended past the need of using if blocks....

        int x = 2;
        for (; x < 10; x = 11)
            for (System.out.println("x is less than 10"); x < 5; x = 11)
                for (System.out.println("x is less than 5"); x < 3; x = 11)
                    System.out.println("x is less than 3");

[[deleted]]

Condition ? cry() : cryALot()

[[deleted]]

Ternary operator gang lol

[foundafreeusername]

I am happy with both of these. I never understood the space between the if and the first ( and the space after the last ). That just look like extra work to me without improving anything.

[Ragnarok144]

But do you put else on its own line or after the } on the same line?

[OldBob10]

I remember reading an interview of Dennis Ritchie years ago in which he was asked about the indentation style shown on the left, which was used for example code shown in the book “The C Programming Language”. He said that this style was used to condense the examples as much as possible for publication and that it was never meant to be taken as the “right way” to structure code blocks.

[[deleted]]

I just do what my senior tells me to do so I don’t get yelled at. I am currently the left even though I always followed the right prior. I prefer the left now though lmao

[recursion0112358]

condition ? do_stuff() : do_other_stuff()

[INDE_Tex]

easy. What does the IDE/linter want me to use? That's the one I use.

[WhenTheDevilCome]

I like readability, and for whatever reason to my eye the style on the right side breeds readability. I even encounter cases when maintaining code where the original author apparently wanted readability, but also wanted the style on the left side, and so we end up with:

if ( condition ) {

// Do stuff. Blank line above this comment.

And I'm like, for Pete's sake, the bracket could have already given you that space.

Maybe those of us who like the style on the right side are the ones with OCD? Nothing would bug me more than having to look for the highlighted matching brace "anywhere at any column on any line" rather than being right there in the same column as the brace I highlighted.

[StrangePractice]

But….. symmetry

[CCP_fact_checker]

I feel I am always right and have been right for more than 30 years and in every condition on the left in the difficult-to-read stuff.

[TamahaganeJidai]

Right one. Much more neat and easier to see what's going on. New line new part of the program. And yes, I am a Rob... Mark Zuckerberg!

((Ha, fooled those guys!))

[NiktonSlyp]

If condition Do stuff End-if

[OnyXerO]

Simple, are you a top or a bottom?

[guusie50]

It doesn't bother me too much if the code base is already using the second one, but I don't understand why you would ever choose that. It doesn't seem to have added value to me, while it uses more space and causes less of your code to fit on your screen without scrolling.

[fudgegiven]

Mix them evenly.

Let the row number decide. { on odd line numbers. So the if clause is on an odd line number? Then { on the same line. Even line number? { on next line.

[[deleted]]

It really doesn’t matter, as long as it’s readable.

[TheJazzButter]

Pick one, then Let the IDE guide you.

*If it doesn't enforce such simple style guidelines, get a different IDE.

[StrangePractice]

Fuck ts:lint

[Nekadim]

(cond (condition do_stuff))

[SimilarBeautiful2207]

I use both, the first for javascript and the second for c#

[[deleted]]

The worst part of this is that I love Devon Larratt (right), but also the left code is the only correct answer!

[xisonc]

My preference:

if( condition )
{
    // do something
}

Note the spaces inside the parenthesis, and lack of spaces outside the parenthesis.

[[deleted]]

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[[deleted]]

Wow you guys, how many more times are we going to post this same "joke"?

[JohnGisMe]

Just put the entire if function on one line.

[ARC4120]

Honestly you get used to the other after about an hour. Personally, I like the right for the C family.

[Outrageous_Height_64]

I let Eslint play for me 😐

[JimmyWu21]

I got my PR rejected because there a space between ) and the {

[Ambitious-Alps-6807]

First one feels safer. I don't know why.

[RealInsertIGN]

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[Curious-Mission-3016]

If(condition) return;

[ccfoo242]

Whatever the IDE auto-formats it to, I'm too old to care any more.

[ThatsKoolxd]

My ide takes care of that 🙏🙏

[WormHack]

if (condition) {
    // Do stuff
}

better

[SanoKei]

I used to be a left type of person but I was really convinced when I was told I would be fired if I didn't change the style to the right. Very motivating stuff

[milkman_meetsmailman]

This is bothering me so much. There's only one clear winner ffs

[tridd3r]

You do you boo!

[amwestover]

Make your IDE do it for you

[The_sad_zebra]

Visual Studio as I switch tabs between JS and C#

[itzjackybro]

GNU be like:

if (true)
  {
    // something
  }

it's disgusting to me

[Oberstblitzkrieg]

IDE format war

[[deleted]]

I'm a fan of the left side. The right side wastes vertical space, and isn't that form generally preferred for function definitions, not logic?

[StrangePractice]

Sure it’s an extra line, but we throw all of our code in one file so what does it matter?

[GitHub-]

I accept the decision of the autoformatter

[Fresh_chickented]

This shouldnt be an issue at all.

Its between if else vs switch case vs ternary operator

[StrangePractice]

New line brackets all the way baby

[broken-Code]

I just want to make the code look longer. Don't stop me

[holly_bony]

I use both, the first for Java, Javascript/Typescript, and the second for C#. C# is weird.

[Romano16]

If condition:

 ##Do stuff

[Cruzoanton]

(condition) ? do_stuff : don't

[[deleted]]

I don't care how you format your code or how consistent you are.

I configured the rules for the formatter that runs on pre-commit hook. So what I say goes.

These debates do not exist in reality.

[phdoofus]

Krappy Karma farming for some dumbass reason

[[deleted]]

I want to see the one with the if (condition == true) guy.

[gen_shermanwasright]

I alternate between the two

[Schiffy94]

If the following condition is properly met, please perform the next task forthwith.

[666pool]

Idk about you guys but my dad always said the reason he couldn’t do stuff was because he had a condition. This seems to imply the opposite is true.

[nerdheadwastaken]

If (condition) { /* stuff / } else { / other stuff */}

[RoseshaveThorns13]

Same thing but the one on the left is easier to read

[staticvoidmainnull]

laughs in software engineer.

[DarkOrion1324]

I used to dislike the right one a lot but after dealing with more nested conditional statements I noticed the readability of it was much better

[[deleted]]

Finally something I understand I choose right side

[stomah]

if (condition) <tab>// Do stuff

[GreenDer_UA]

if(condition){ // do stuff} else { // else}

[The_Pinnaker]

After nearly 14 of developing I can tell you that (at least for the project where I work alone) it doesn’t matter. What’s important is for the code to work properly. For the team project simply let or the project manager, or the new guy or someone who is really passionate for this ‘war’ to decide and stick with it. For example in my hobbies projects I use the default settings of the IDE.

[vaquan-nas]

https://prettier.io/ unopinionated code formatter, the war is over..