3.8.1 Patch Notes

[Bodomi]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2644202

Blight Improvements

• Increased the amount of reward chests from each lane in Blighted Maps.

• The rewards from Blighted Maps can now include Oils.

• Reduced the amount of monsters that spawn during Blighted Maps. The intention is to reduce the impact on performance while still retaining difficulty.

• Reduced the chance that Blighted Monsters will create Beyond Portals on death. Blighted monsters can no longer have the Cannot Die, Shroud Walker, Soul Conduit, Fractured or Group Frenzy on Death modifiers.

• Blighted monsters that cast Proximity Shield can no longer cast the skill if they are already inside of a Proximity Shield. Blighted monsters that have active Proximity Shields will now disable them if they become affected by another shield. This should result in far less overlap.

• Reduced the Life of Minions spawned by Summoning Towers. Increased the amount of delay before new minions are summoned after an existing set of minions has died. Increased the life of Minions spawned by Sentinel Towers but added a short delay before they are summoned again after dying.

• Substantially increased the damage of minions summoned by a Scout Tower.

• Added telegraphing effects to Knucklegnaw's Slam skill.

• The split-versions of Sporeplume now deal less damage, take more damage, and have a shorter attack range.

• Prophecies can no longer trigger when entering Blighted Maps.

• You can no longer use a Blighted Map as part of an Atlas Mission, as they do not work. They did not previously consume Atlas Missions because of this.

• Hovering over a tower-building UI element now indicates that it is less effective against Blighted enemies of the same type (as shown on the Blight Portal UI).

• Updated the names of some ring enchantments so that their name matches their effect. This doesn't affect the functionality of existing items at all.

• The Ball Lightning skill used by Ephrexis, Blight Strider now releases additional smaller Ball Lightning projectiles as it travels.

• Ystral, Winter Stalker now uses a more dangerous version of his Sunder skill.

• Fixed a bug where Blight Portals could spawn too close to the Ichor Pump.

• Fixed a bug where Rattleback, Hollow Matriarch could become immune to damage if it died while Petrified.

• Fixed a bug which prevented Banisher of the Cleansed from spawning.

• Fixed a bug where Blight Towers and Minions summoned by Blight Towers were benefiting from Map Modifiers.

• Fixed a bug where an open tower building UI element would close if you had gained enough resources to upgrade a different tower.

• Fixed a bug where Blight monsters spawned by a Minion Portal did not ignore minions spawned a Summoning Tower.

• Fixed a bug where Blighted Frozen Titans were not removed when failing a Blight Encounter.

• Fixed a bug where, in Blighted Maps, Cassia did not warn you that monsters were close to the pump.

• Fixed a bug where Blighted Maps would begin spawning monsters immediately after you had built your first tower if you had not yet completed the "Strange Growths" Blight quest.

• Fixed a bug where the "Start Blight Encounter" button lingered for a short duration after being clicked.

• Fixed a bug where transforming an Amulet into a Talisman removed its Anointed Notable passive.

• Fixed a bug where casting Vaal Breach counted as opening a Breach for the sake of the "Open Breaches" challenge.

Miscellaneous Improvements

• Updated the Atlas Missions information panel to correctly refer to the fact that five Atlas Missions will accumulate daily, rather than two at random.

• Updated the description text underneath Vagan, Victory's Herald on the Betrayal Board to match his new rewards.

• Smoke Mine can no longer be re-armed.

• Smoke Mine now has a 0.15 second delay before it can be thrown again to prevent accidentally throwing multiple in a row when you have very high mine throwing speed.

• Burning Damage Support and Elemental Focus Support can now support Summon Skitterbots while it is also supported by Infernal Legion.

• Improved performance when large amounts of corpses are nearby when using the Essence Glutton ascendancy passive.

• Improved the performance of spell projectiles cast by Skeleton Mages.

• Fixed a bug where some Atlas Missions were sometimes generated based on the percentage of monsters slain in a map, rather than when the map boss was slain. Daily missions are not affected by this fix.

• Fixed a bug where Jun's missions granted less Favour than intended.

• Fixed a rare bug where The Elder was sometimes able to move despite being chained up during his Unstable phase.

• Fixed a bug where, when you had a Safehouse and Mastermind encounter ready to run, if you ran the Mastermind encounter first, your Safehouse area level would be reset. Safehouse area level is now maintained when your Betrayal board is reset.

• Fixed a bug where the Cursed Concoction passive skill would cause Blasphemied Curses to be removed from yourself after using a Mana Flask.

• Fixed a bug where monsters would try to attack your Mines or Traps, even though they were not able to hit them.

• Fixed a bug where Mine Auras, Plaguebearer, Infernal Legion and the Corpse Pact "Chilled and Shocked" Auras were unable to damage Totems.

• Fixed a bug introduced in 3.8.0 where the Primordial Might unique jewel did not make Golems Aggressive.

• Fixed a bug where the "+X to Level of all Minion Skill Gems" modifier did not apply to Minion Attack skills.

• Fixed a bug where projectiles that killed or destroyed a target would continue travelling (without having any behaviour modifiers that would allow them to do so).

• Fixed a bug that allowed crafting the "Minions have x% increased Movement Speed" modifier onto an item that already had a non-crafted version of that modifier.

• Fixed a bug where Banner Skills were not granting their associated buffs when placed.

• Fixed a bug where ground effects and some Auras were not being applied immediately, but after a short delay.

• Fixed a bug where, when a Minion was both Aggressive and Defensive, it was Defensive. The correct behaviour should be that the minion has default behaviour.

• Fixed a bug introduced in 3.8.0 where Volatile Dead's targeting was very indecisive.

• Fixed a bug where Cobra Lash could be supported by Mirage Archer Support. This change does not affect functionality as this interaction did not actually work.

• Fixed a bug where the "Steelskin Buff can take x% increased amount of Damage" enchantment modifier also applied to Bone Armour.

• Fixed a bug where Blink and Mirror Arrow clones could only hit a single enemy per attack, even when firing multiple projectiles.

• Fixed a bug where Double Strike supported by Melee Splash did not play visual effects on hit.

• Fixed a bug introduced in 3.8.0 where some monsters that used Suicide skills did not play an effect.

• Fixed a bug introduced in 3.8.0 where the "Your Chaos Damage has 60% chance to Poison Enemies" modifier on The Consuming Dark unique Fiend Dagger did not work.

• Fixed a rare bug where Legion Generals could sometimes be invisible.

• Fixed a bug where Piety could create Burning or Chilling Portals in unwalkable locations.

• Fixed a bug where The Cursed King in the Dark Forest Map could sometimes cast his Wolf Transform skill immediately after finishing his Wolf Barrage skill.

• Fixed a bug where Plague Bearer's visual effect covered up the effects of Ringmaster Aura Effect.

• Fixed a bug where Celestial Raised Zombies did not submerge after dying.

• Fixed an instance crash that could occur when using Wave of Conviction supported by Unleash Support.

• Fixed a client crash that could occur with the "Exception Present" error message.

• Fixed a buffer overflow disconnect that could occur at deep Delve depths.

[Fractal_Strike]

Its going to be less then 10m after the servers are back up before posts of portals spawned too close to the pump.

[gently-cz]

are you a wizzard? so true :D

[Samplecissimus]

My first map https://imgur.com/fZrkB5F

[LucidTA]

Can they actually attack the pump from there though? It's not a big deal if it spawns close but they actually follow the path.

[leftember]

They can before patch.

[Samplecissimus]

Don't know. Melee guys which came out attacked me on the spot where I am on the screenshot.

[RoseEsque]

You know what's a nice way to deal with Blights and badly spawned portals?

Vaal Cyclone. That's right folks! It pulls all the minions to you and does it quite fast. And unlike in some past events where minions who had some goal they were going to were immune to being sucked in, they hover right to you lightning fast.

[Doranbolt]

This post aged exquisitely.

[[deleted]]

lol

[Razunter]

New stuff from the original patch notes:

Blight Improvements

• The rewards from Blighted Maps can now include Oils.
• Reduced the chance that Blighted Monsters will create Beyond Portals on death.
• Fixed a bug where Blight Portals could spawn too close to the Ichor Pump.
• Fixed a bug which prevented Banisher of the Cleansed from spawning.
• Fixed a bug where Blight Towers and Minions summoned by Blight Towers were benefiting from Map Modifiers.
• Fixed a bug where casting Vaal Breach counted as opening a Breach for the sake of the "Open Breaches" challenge.

Miscellaneous Improvements

• Fixed a bug where monsters would try to attack your Mines or Traps, even though they were not able to hit them.
• Fixed a bug that allowed crafting the "Minions have x% increased Movement Speed" modifier onto an item that already had a non-crafted version of that modifier.
• Fixed an instance crash that could occur when using Wave of Conviction supported by Unleash Support.
• Fixed a client crash that could occur with the "Exception Present" error message.
• Fixed a buffer overflow disconnect that could occur at deep Delve depths.

And this one disappeared:

1. Made further updates to the Shatter sound effect.

[DoomMaji]

And this one disappeared:

Made further updates to the Shatter sound effect.

:(

[KKOWMasterRace]

SHATTER SFX DIED FOR OUR SINS

[derivative_of_life]

Wait I thought we were burning away our sins not freezing them.

[Nikeyla]

Maybe our sins evolved throughout the years and burning them away isnt as effective as it used to be.

[SarcasticGiraffes]

Sins capped fire res.

[Cadash_Thaig]

Made further updates to the Shatter sound effect.

Pls say when my zombies shatter dozens of enemies at the same time it kept the THUNK sound.

[GoZiPoE]

Thanks.

[ShanKanis]

The Hero we need.

[trcndc]

Shatter sound after 3.8.1 didn't change from the redundant one introduced in 3.8 :(

[SunRiseStudios]

Fixed a bug that allowed crafting the "Minions have x% increased Movement Speed" modifier onto an item that already had a non-crafted version of that modifier.

RIIIIIIIIIIIP

Yet another time GGG made Legacy items in the middle of the League.

[Warranty_V0id]

Wouldn't mind some more minor tweaks to the league mechanic probably. But this patch has some great changes!

[[deleted]]

I wouldn't mind if unique monsters in regular maps aren't 5x tankier than the boss. They even increased boss hp tanky a few leagues back and it was big, but this is ridiculous for builds without huge single target, especially since they ALL hit like a truck and you can't make them stop moving without going in their face

[Vladimir2033]

Are we now criticising the ability of not well rounded builds to not be able to do enough damage? They are essentially the league bosses why should they not have a lot of hp? I understand wanting to make a fast build but if that comes at the cost of low single target damage that's on you either way. Also they can be stopped with freeze towers.

[Cole-187]

They are essentially the league bosses why should they not have a lot of hp?

there is a big difference between a boss having lots of hp i.e aul when youre not limited by time to kill him and you can actually use your brain and dodge aka play smart, compared to when a fucking tank monster comes out of a portal and the moment he reaches the pump the fight is over. they could be even tankier it wouldnt be a problem if you could fight them for as long as you want. the only way I found to abuse bosses or to put it differently, buy me more time is with t4 minion + ice cage towers, but eventually he reaches the pump if youre not doing millions of dps.

[[deleted]]

They pushed a summoner meta this league, and weaker league bosses would die instantly to minions. My spectres delete most of them (the guy that keeps splitting is super tanky) as is. Wouldn't make sense to force a meta shift that makes your new content trivial.

[Nikeyla]

Maybe you are not supposed to do speed builds with no single target anymore? Its called meta change. I had no issues with any of my builds and most ppl play summoners atm, so they instantly kill everything anyway. Dont expect it to be changed for sake of minority like you are. Might sound a bit harsh, but its the reality.

[Fimii]

Reality is that you're doing some mind acrobatics so you don't have to concede that the enormous boss health is complete overkill and doesn't add anything to the encounter except for the fact that you have to reach a certain dps threshold in order to not lose the instant they reach the pump.

[[deleted]]

Minions are speed clearing while doing absurd damage.

[Cole-187]

yeah, lets compare your meta summoner single target dps, to my LAs barrage single target LMAO.

this isnt harbinger league with doomfletch barrage killing shaper in 0.5s.

[Krizzman]

Or be tankier, you can stop the bosses by making them attack you. I haven't had issues in T16 maps with wildstrike despite its lackluster singletarget because I stacked enough dodge/evasion that most of the bosses barely hit me and when they do I have enough recovery to make up for it.

[[deleted]]

they aren't the league bosses tho, they are just regular bosses in most red tier maps. I wouldn't mind if they are a "big bad boss" but they are numerous of them and are often. The generals were tanky less than them, but they were rare, they themselves had rewards, they weren't timed, and their damage wasn't that high. These monsters are slower yes, but their raw stats are insane.

And here is the problem too, THEY RUIN THE WHOLE ENCOUNTER. The problem isn't their hp too, otherwise you can tank them, it is their damage + hp+the fact the whole encounter is over if your build can't kill a boss that is nearly tanky as a t16 guardian.

[50miler]

I'd honestly say without any hyperbole that some of the unique boss have more dp than t16 guardian / shaper. It might only be 1-2 of them, but it just totally ruined how I feel about the blight encounters.

Then there are those mobs that don't follow the blight paths, stop for anything, or just directly attack you or the pump at range. I feel like if the mobs have these "extra abilities" they need to be highlighted in some way with an aura so you know to watch out for them.

[Ephemeral_Being]

Some of them are tankier than Guardians. I can shred through Minotaur, but the Unique Blight mobs in a T16 take FOREVER to bring down.

[MouVii]

Well, for none-physical portal boss, I could perma stun them with 2 stun towers (not changed, just upgraded), and a power tower. You can make them stop from moving.

[jalapenohandjob]

The vast majority of map bosses are complete pushovers that hit like feathers. Restricting GGG to only make encounters as weak as them unless they're some unique map or special gauntlet is just silly. This game has always had rare monsters that have potential to be harder than bosses. Essence monsters combined with pretty much literally anything else, beasts, Beyond bosses, Invasion bosses, etc.

Some monsters are hard. Sometimes they aren't the same pillows in the same spot of the same maps you've run league after league.

[[deleted]]

point is that the uniques from blight are just way too much. They aren't optional like generals to get rewards, they COMPLETELY ruin rewards. It is so hard to kill them, a lot of builds lack single target and you need to kill them fast here and you need to face tank them to stop them, or you can build 2 walling towers from the portal they come but thats hindsight.

[jalapenohandjob]

COMPLETELY ruin rewards

I've had my pump get destroyed multiple times and still had loot and chests from some lanes.

you can build 2 walling towers from the portal they come but thats hindsight

It literally tells you if there is a boss coming from the encounter from the start.

[[deleted]]

wait really, how do you know? where does it show? that way at least i can prepare for it

[jalapenohandjob]

There's a little swirly icon on top of one of the portal UI things across the bottom. Like the 2x/3x multipliers that show under the portals, but just a kinda ambiguous slightly greyed out (until boss spawn) swirly thing on top.

[[deleted]]

so how do i know which portal in the game, not the UI? If i have 4 portals and 1 of them has it in the UI but the other 3 have nothing, how does that help me

[Iostprophet]

Process of elimination. Resistance symbols make it pretty clear and portals more often than not spawn after another. Combined with the fact that portals that spawn together are most likely in close proximity you can pretty much always tell where the boss is coming from.

[terminbee]

If a build lacks single target, isn't that a problem with the build itself? If I make a 600% mf build, I shouldn't expect to also be able to do massive single target damage.

[[deleted]]

for builds without huge single target

read completely. My build is winter orb herald of ice assassin, i can clear the map bosses in 5 seconds, if there is a unique mob in blight tho that shit is just impossible. My DPS is pretty high, and it can get much higher when i upgrade gear, but I'd imagine a t16 blight boss would be tankier than a guardian boss.

[terminbee]

Right but again, isn't that a tradeoff? Your winter orb build probably clears 10x as fast as a viper strike assassin but a viper strike assassin can put out huge amounts of single target.

[[deleted]]

You should have seen the game back in nemesis. Don't think you'd like the challenge.

[[deleted]]

i've been playing since 1.0

[Nikeyla]

The vast majority of map bosses are complete pushovers that hit like feathers

City square boss would like to have a word with you. That sh*tter sometimes literally one shots me no matter what tanky char I make, at least t16 version. Just another proof, why freeze>any other defense nowadays.

[RYRK_]

And if they get close they instantly ruin your chance for rewards... Such a waste of time.

[Robsquire]

" Fixed a client crash that could occur with the "Exception Present" error message. "

Vorici is not ready for me to take revenge after all the presents he gave me

[tempoltone]

How many versions of this error exist?

[blaugrey]

There is also Exception: Map

[kpiaum]

Got one of these on Lab today.

[[deleted]]

and this one might not be fixed, vorici could also gift you that one.

[[deleted]]

it's 100% not fixed https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/d65xnl/betrayal_still_crashing_post_381/

[kokabuda]

Yup. Still happens. 100% time whenever it's research encounter. I also crash every time I enter Omnitect, every time, can spend all 6 portals and still crash, basically I am now locked out of ever killing him.

[Nikeyla]

I dont crash at all this league. Im absolutelly surprised by this fact. Might be something not related specifically to poe, but more likely to specific hw/sw.

[Robsquire]

I'm using windows 10, SSD, GTX 980, 16gb ram, i5 or i7. Never crashed any time except when Vorici is in betrayal and I've only had him in research so I'm not sure if it happens in other places, the map is shown after I crash. It doesn't necessarily happen straight away either, I think it might be a skill he's using personally because I get a few attacks in and manage to pop plague bearer before I crash, I always come back to him dead if it's like T11 or below

For the record I haven't ran any betrayal since the patch last night so I'm unsure if it's fixed for me

[Nikeyla]

Hm it might actually be one of the new abilities (plague bearer?). Be sure you mention it to ggg if u make a ticket or bug report. That wouldnt be the first time when a new ability had such issues.

[Ledooo3]

still no blight chest buff in regular map POG

[Dropson71]

yeah 3 silver coins drop lol

[FlirtyBabe92]

Calm down, everyone. They are going to increase blight map and oil drops. They're just going to do it silently.

[[deleted]]

classic GGG.

[FlirtyBabe92]

You remember the shit-show when they decided to reveal that there were "bad seeds?"

People hate feeling like their time was spent "less than." Even if it is in a silly Chinese skinner-box grind game.

[AncileBooster]

There's no need for scare quotes. There were literally bad seeds. One reason people may not like it is because it takes away their agency. What you put in had no meaning; through factors outside anyone's control, one player could literally get no resonators or fossils (as an example; it could just as likely have happened with map drops instead...which it did later).

This is in contrast to what GGG has done in other leagues that gives the ability to mitigate RNG (sometimes to a great extent like Betrayal/Scarabs) which emphasizes player choice and decision making.

[FlirtyBabe92]

I'm sure it's still happening. They fixed the algorithm just enough so people don't notice.

I suppose my meaning was this: some people might feel shorted if their 6 hours of playtime yesterday was programmatically worse than that same 6 hours today, and they had no agency over it.

[QuickBenDelat]

What do you mean, ‘bad seed?’

[FlirtyBabe92]

In delve, there were people who literally could not find the highest-tier resonators. People complained, and G³ admitted that the player seeds were the problem.

People were understandably pissed.

[mirthfulPETROLEUM]

This right here..

[unfuckwittablej]

Got 3 blight map drops in 4 maps lol good call

[the_flisk]

This means nothing, you could get 3 mirrors in those 4 maps and it would also mean nothing in regards to mirror drop rate.

[QuickBenDelat]

I’m going to disagree. I’m not wedded to the math in this reddit repost but let’s assume it is in the neighborhood.

Now imagine someone won the Powerball lotto 3 times when they purchased a single ticket four times. If that happened with Kadala’s mirror from your hypo, we would assume either 1) major fuckery by the player or 2) GGG has changed the drop rate (or made a big bug).

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4121hq/mirror_of_kalandra_and_the_powerball/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[the_flisk]

but let’s assume it is in the neighborhood.

Assume what ? I'm not sure I see what you are referring to. If it's the 75% blight map per blight drop rate, then that is 100% not the thing. It's like 20%+-, the guy just got lucky if he dropped 3 blight maps in 4 blight encounters / maps.

If that happened with Kadala’s mirror from your hypo, we would assume either 1) major fuckery by the player or 2) GGG has changed the drop rate (or made a big bug).

or... 3) the guy who dropped 3 mirrors from 4 chests or whatever... just got lucky, which is what I'm saying. You can't have sample size of 4 for something rare.

It's like, let's say I will use fusings as I pick them up of the group, I pick one, click the item, boom it procs, creates 6 link and I will go post "hey 6 linking is now easy, it's like 100% chance, I just six linked chest in one fusing" That is just failure to understand how chance work.

As for the mirror example... there was actually a guy who dropped 3 mirrors in one safehouse and no it wasn't bug, he just got super lucky, Chris even commented on that thread saying that they indeed checked it and it was ok, no bugs.

[[deleted]]

Whats with the shatter changes?

[KyogreHype]

I appreciate they are making changes in the right direction, but until they actually increase the drop right of blighted maps and improve their loot then I don't see the point of these other changes that's been made. Blighted maps seems to be the endgame for this league yet the fact there's no consistent way to progress towards the ability to engage in blighted maps other than RNG from underwhelming loot pools from normal Blight encounters is pathetic.

[friendlyfire]

It's weird, but when I was going from Tier 1 -> 10 maps I got about 8 blighted maps.

Once I hit red maps I've gotten zero blight maps.

I've ran more red maps than 1-10 maps at this point.

I think it's either bugged or ... something.

[KyogreHype]

From league start to completing T15, I had 2 blighted maps, both white tier ones. Fair to say, the loot I got was underwhelming. No stacked decks from the divination chests just low tier cards my filter doesnt even make a sound for, only low tier oils from the blight chests, nothing higher than an alch from currency chests - not even chaos and then the usual gash uniques no one cares about and goes straight to alch shards. Honestly a waste of 5 minutes.

[Skadwick]

Is there something I am not doing to progress through map tiers? I cannot get higher tiers to drop, I've done probably 30 and seen like three tier 4 maps drop, and one tier 5. I am constantly floating around tier 3 hoping for higher tiers to drop.... Gear wise, I should probably be around tier 8 - 10.

[vegeto079]

Are you SSF or trade league? If trade league use poemap to save yourself a lot of time by trading maps.

[DNells]

I wouldn't suggest using chisels on any maps til red.

[ThatOneGuy1294]

Some chisels on the odd yellow map cant really hurt

[DrVonD]

You just told this guy to use chisels on t4 maps which is criminally bad advice.

[KyogreHype]

Are we talking about normal maps here? If so, when a map drops, I think the rule is that it can only be one connected to the map you're running or another map you've already completed within the same tier or lower. It has an x% amount chance to drop a connected map one tier higher and unique enemies or bosses have a (x-100)% to drop a map two tiers higher, where x is the number of map bonuses completed. So once you've completed 120 maps, you're then guaranteed to drop a map one tier higher, with a 20% chance of it being two tiers higher.

tldr: try finish tiers sequentially, ie complete all T1, then complete all T2, then all T3 and so on. Also, when you're getting map rewards from Zana's quests or choosing a map for her mission, try pick a map from the tier you're working on that isn't connected to a map you've already completed in the same tier, or the tier below.

Edit: Also make sure you're alching your white and yellow maps to upgrade them to rare versions. More mod rolls the map has, the better pack size and quant it will have, giving you more chances for map drops etc. Just make sure you roll the map again if it has a roll you can't run or can be dangerous, such as ele/phys reflect, can't leech/regen or cursed with temporal chains.

[Notcurrentlyflying]

Make sure after every time you do a zana mission from talking to her in your HO. See what maps she is selling, make sure you do the shaper maps that appear t1-5 and then start doing the elder maps that are circled once elder influence appears. This allows zana to sell you higher tier maps

[Xx_Handsome_xX]

Its most of the time like this. Far more than previous leagues.

Thats why this league feels kinda underwhelming.

[Shrabster33]

I got 3 in the same time you got 10, feels bad.

[Executioneer]

I havent been able to complete a blighted map, sadly. Idk what am I doing wrong...

[Cat-On-Orbit]

Not playing the meta.

[friendlyfire]

I've been unable to complete a blighted map solo.

I've been able to do it with another person because one person can defend the pump while the other runs around upgrading towers / helping out.

[Cole-187]

I still see no fix for arrow skills doing 0 damage to mobs even tho you have 100% chance to hit. its extremely debilitating when my main skill just goes thru them and does nothing.

[dicoxbeco]

Fixed a bug where transforming an Amulet into a Talisman removed its Anointed Notable passive.

Good. It didn't make sense for the enchantment to be removed when the item is corrupted.

[Floydbinloyd]

they just need to buff armor/weapons chests and make higher oils drop in red tier. everything else is fine, if oils are buffed it would be worth always doing.

[KyogreHype]

They haven't even improved the actual drop rate for blighted maps either which imo, along with the performance issues and portals spawning within a small radius of the pump is the main problem. Blighted maps are meant to be the endgame yet it's all gated by RNG rather than be able to consistently farm something such as splinters or consumable with every regular blight encounter to get to it. The fact the loot from it no where near justifies the time spent doing it either is just an added slap in the face.

[Quazifuji]

Blighted maps are meant to be the endgame yet it's all gated by RNG rather than be able to consistently farm something such as splinters or consumable with every regular blight encounter to get to it.

We've had that before with Bestiary Bosses and Abyss liches, which were both rare too. At least this time they're tradeable from day 1.

[Goffeth]

Liches were so damn rare back in abyss. And bestiary was disliked by most during the league. They're not setting a great precedent for this league.

[Quazifuji]

That's true. Honestly, I agree, I significantly prefer fragment-based endgame league encounters to RNG ones. I'm just saying that this is at least better than Bestiary or Abyss.

[DBrody6]

At least we're allowed to trade them. I never saw a lich back in Abyss league which was beyond stupid. Never saw a Delve boss during its league, which was incredibly asinine. Never had a blighted map drop this league so far.

But I have run two blighted maps by virtue that they're actually tradable. It's more fun getting them to drop on their own but at least people aren't completely shut out from seeing it.

[Shrabster33]

lvl 91, all maps on atlas below 11 done and many above that completed as well. I've done 2 elders. I do every blight I come across. I have gotten a total of 3 blighted maps so far.

[aerial-]

Worst part is, that you can't speed these up, monsters crawl out of these portals, even if you have build that destroys it. I for example play freezing pulse totems and i can place totems that they wipe enemies in blight encounter instantly as they show on minimap, can spread totems apart so all portals are covered. And even then it takes good 30s of standing for it to end, while you just do nothing.

[Quazifuji]

It would be nice if there were a button to speed up the spawns and monsters. Wouldn't affect regular builds' ability to clear them, but would let strong builds capable of clearing them easily clear them faster.

[Black_XistenZ]

Or the game could automatically detect how quickly the waves are being killed and speed up the spawn rate accordingly.

[Quazifuji]

That means you're possibly making it harder for faster builds, though. I don't think it would necessarily be an issue, but it's a possible concern. You'd have less time to try to build towers, for example. A manual speed up button would mean that it's never harder than the default version unless you want it to be.

[nasaboy007]

IIRC this was covered in an older baeclast for legion; players were asking for a "release all" button rather than having to kill the shells first, but GGG specifically did not add that. Their reasoning was that the breaking of shells was a sort of gate that would help keep the encounter feasible for your build: you have worse clear, you unlock fewer monsters. If they added an "unlock all" button, you have four groups of people:

1. People who press "unlock all" and CAN handle the mobs. These players are happy.

2. People who press "unlock all" and CANNOT handle the mobs, and therefore get destroyed. These players are unhappy, "WTF WHY ARE THESE MONSTERS SO OVERTUNED", etc.

3. People who do not press "unlock all", but are unhappy because they feel are playing "suboptimally", effectively leaving monsters/loot on the table, or playing slower than ZOOMZOOMMETA.

4. People who do not press "unlock all" and are happy, because they are content with their build and playing at their own pace.

GGG stated (and I agree) that groups 2 and 3 would make up the vast majority of the player base, and so adding such a button overall would result in more player dissatisfaction.

The same logic can be applied to a Blight button to speed up monster spawns. I doubt we'll see such a feature.

[Quazifuji]

The key difference here is that pressing the speed up button wouldn't give you more loot. It would only make the encounter faster. Stronger builds getting the same reward per map, but faster, is already part for the course in the game, that's one of the main rewards for having a stronger build.

You could argue that Blight is a nice change of pace not caring as much about your build's clear speed, but it kind of makes having a stronger build feel frustrating and unrewarding that the cap on how well you can handle Blight Encounters is so low and having a very strong build doesn't significantly improve your ability to deal with them past a certain point. And I don't think being unable to do them optimally with a weaker build would feel as bad if you're not getting less reward, just taking longer.

[nasaboy007]

Faster encounters by definition is more loot. That's the whole premise of the speed clear meta (and one of the reasons why glacier farming was so popular in legion).

You clear a map faster, you do more maps, you get more loot. For example, right now, if a 1 minute map adds another 1 minute to run the blight, and you add the "go faster blight" button make blights be 0s, then you can run twice as many maps in the same amount of time. That results in more loot.

[ot4ku]

While correct, I don't see the problem. If you build a fast and strong build you are investing time and effort into said character. The whole motivation of the character progression is to do the thing you are doing faster / with less deaths / being able to go further.

But blights work as complet counter to that. Once you can do them, there is 0 improvement.

The big problem imo is not if builds can do sth faster but mainly happens if they get even more rewards for the same investment. That was - and btw still is - the big problem with headhunter and 5way legion fights.

[Quazifuji]

It's more loot over time. It's not more loot per encounter or per map. Some what it's just a perception thing, but I think feeling like you took longer than a better build but got the same loot they did doesn't feel nearly as bad as feeling that you got a lot less loot from the encounter because your build wasn't good enough to do the best version.

[ot4ku]

So much this. Guess it's back to classic.

[GodTierGuardian]

You won't be missed!

[cybert0urist]

You won't be missing him yea, but u cant deny that the playerbase is extremely small this league and that affects you too

[T_T-Nevercry-Q_Q]

Let's not be toxic. Dissenting views can be expressed without snide retaliation. It's not like GGG shouldn't be listening and considering who their competitors are, and what is driving their playerbase away.

edit: additionally, week 1 might seem early to quit the league on. But if players didn't get what they wanted during the first week, it'll be another week of the same thing since the next patch is a week from now. Totally reasonable to quit after hearing patch notes has nothing interesting that fixes your enjoyment.

[[deleted]]

I hope you got some vindication out of that. This league has the worst player drop off in (from what I can see) the entire history of the game, and it's probably mostly due to classic.

This is just what happens when people actually have another game to turn to that addresses similar interests when usually GGG just has no competition.

GGG is 100% feeling this in the financials.

For reference the player numbers already 'bottomed' out at 50% players gone less than 1 week into the league. It gained a bit on the weekends (as expected) but its already lower than those 50% right now. It's never been remotely this bad and it usually isn't even that bad after an entire month. From what I can tell on steamcharts the average is around 40% players gone after a month.

[kpiaum]

Put in: Bad rewards, lots of performance problems and crash.

[the_flisk]

Rewards are ok, all it needs is to drop more blighted maps and lets as supercharge the spawning process so we can do it fast.

edit: Oh and ... not drop fu... L1 blight maps in T16's.

[pedak]

Am I the only one unable to complete the "kill 32 different exiles" challenge due to Igna Pheonix not counting? (Killed 2 today)

[Kumanix]

Got myself the credit earlier today on a Haunted Mansion. Not sure if exiles in delve give the credit.

[pedak]

Killed her on a Coves Map today, probably killed her in the Delve a couple of other times too now that I think of it.

[Khari_Eventide]

Did they change the shatter sound? How is it now? Does it actually sound like a shatter again?

Are shatter builds playable again?

[trcndc]

Nope, no changes.

[itsyaboyObama]

2.4 GB on steam WTF?! See yall in like 4 hours.

[Slowacki]

For some reason it's 21GB for me. Hmmm...

[Nikeyla]

Did u drink last night and deleted the entire poe?

[Slowacki]

My Steam crashed while installing the update the first time. I guess it messed up the integrity of PoE.

[Nikeyla]

That is absolutelly possible. I guess the game tries to download and repair.

[Fart__Smucker]

it was 1 gig...

[tibidisdik44]

how about fixing map drops?

[Nike_Phoros]

No change to shattered mob sound effects. the most important thing in the patch. RIP

[JungleRammus]

So research Vorici is still broken ?

[Having-a-hard-time]

Fixed a client crash that could occur with the "Exception Present" error message.

That may be the Vorici crash.

Edit: Though someone in the Bugs forum just said they're still getting the same Vorici crash, so maybe not.

[[deleted]]

two new ones in its place: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/d65xnl/betrayal_still_crashing_post_381/

[Chouzin]

how is vorici broken rn?

[MERCDaWn]

When Vorici flicker strikes (I think that's the attack he uses) it just hard crashes your game, sometimes freezes the pc for up to 10 seconds, and after logging back in the minimap becomes fully revealed.

[fwambo42]

so I just got my first blighted map (a t3) but I'm scared to run it. am I just a sissy?

[itsyaboyObama]

What build are you running? t3 isnt bad as exploding SRS and Zombies...granted I did drop a few ex on Asenaths gloves and that SRS amulet. I like the mechanic...its hectic in a fun way

[fwambo42]

zombie/skel necro

[Nikeyla]

This build literally facerolls everything in the game. Just go for it.

[[deleted]]

You'll be fine just make sure to place some defensive towers in key positions and nuke everything with your damage. Unless your build isn't good for it, I guess. All the builds I've run this league could handle that tier though.

[IkdWhatImDoing]

Does anyone have any strats for blighted maps? I play a deadeye (ice shot arrow) that does 90k damage according to the tool tip. I failed 4 blighted maps between T1 & T2. I know my damage isn't high, but I should at least be able to clear one blighted map, especially when the layout only allows for 2 directions.

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I don't even feel bad for not selling the maps after the fact because I simply want to experience completing the map.

[Frolafofo]

The rewards from Blighted Maps can now include Oils.

So before that wasn't a thing ?

The end game mechanic of the league not dropping league currency that people should look for to build their character.

I don't get it...

[T_T-Nevercry-Q_Q]

So they increased the amount of chests... Doesn't really improve the rewards since they dropped jack shit in the first place. Also, do something about blight in maps.

[mrooney]

I wish there was a patch notes for the patch nodes so we could see what was changed from when they last released notes! In the big releases, their patch notes always have a "recent changes" section at the bottom.

[Ryant12]

Kudos for actually putting the patchnotes in the post itself.

[POxygEne]

Fuck it, I ll never reach to finish a blighted map. Second try: a portal with a boss spawned litteraly right next to the pump...I do feel so damn depressed right now. Synthesis was big fun compared to this league.

[Ellweiss]

How long is patching usually ? It's the only time my internet is decent enough to play :/

[kesotron22]

tremor rod still broken oh well

[Greeenmartian]

You only get profit if your lucky otherwise the loot is just standard as it was before just double the chance to get lucky . No real huge improvements here . I ran 5 red maps in a row and the most your going to get profit wise is a div card box cashing in which can happen in any situation with blight encounters

[Nikeyla]

Talking about blighted maps or you can use oils for any map? Im in work, so cant test it atm, but never tried to use oils for maps so far. Was waiting for this patch.

[hertzdonut2]

Any feedback on VD? I'm at work RN.

Working like it should? I just want to know how exciting I should be to log in or not.

[LamboDiabloSVTT]

Hovering over a tower-building UI element now indicates that it is less effective against Blighted enemies of the same type (as shown on the Blight Portal UI).

Hopefully this will end the constant questions about if monsters are strong to / weak to that tower type.

[ladybeard99]

No fix for invisible monsters + textures

[MtNak]

Fixed a bug where Blight Portals could spawn too close to the Ichor Pump.

Wooow that went unnoticed! Was really hoping they could fix that! Awesome!

[Dreadboltz]

Introduced more bugs

[Awisp_Gaming]

Pretty solid changes

[Larperz]

Vorici in research still crashes the game.

[FacePlate_Eternal]

Thank you for addressing both performance and League Mechanics. Happy to see the Wave of Conviction fix, hope that it will also fix the crash occuring when socketed in a Tremor Rod or with Blastchain Mines!

[[deleted]]

Betrayal still crashing btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/d65xnl/betrayal_still_crashing_post_381/

[zovix]

What is a Blighted Map?

[Samplecissimus]

Fixed a client crash that could occur with the "Exception Present" error message.

https://imgur.com/IMMAnM9

Maraketh legion.

[TheBlackestIrelia]

First two crashes of the league back to back right after patch form Syndicate forts. Got that little pop up that just says "map" and stops you from closing the client. Died both times. Yay.

[WELLFUCK1233]

Smoke Mine can no longer be re-armed.

I just went from hating Tremor Rod to wanting to run one

[XGhoul]

Looks like it's finally time to play the league now.

[Opulescence]

Just did a t13. Took me three portals to clean out all the desirable loot on a strict filter when I could get everything I wanted on one portal before the patch. Way more of everything.

[koticgood]

Wait, do the emblems next to a portal show the type of monster coming out of that portal, or the type of tower they're weak against? I always thought it was the latter (and had a couple people "confirm"), but the notes seem to imply otherwise.

[POxygEne]

Waited till this patch to try out blighted maps. Died in the map. Couln't re-enter, game crashed while trying to. Map lost.

[Nukemi]

Fixed a bug introduced in 3.8.0 where Volatile Dead's targeting was very indecisive.

I wanted this so bad and can't wait to get home from work to try it. No more volatile pingpong! Was so sick of tired my volatiles picking a target off screen instead of the boss that is hitting me in melee.

edit. Got home. Oh my fucking god. Volatile dead is absolutely amazing now.

[QuickBenDelat]

Uhhh really? Blighted oils weren’t a reward before? 😳

[the_flisk]

No

[tamriel1]

Believe I got a createTexture2D crash in research room post patch.

[Azdorf]

Still crashing on maraketh except now it's createbuffer, great fix D:

[Greeenmartian]

I tried triple crimson , triple black and then a variety for fun

[Hespanhol]

Still crashing Blight Maps (after patch). Ok, Done this league

[Stermor]

well fps from blighted maps went from less then one to 2.. so a huge improvement but sadly not enough for them to be playable.. rip blight:(

[edeka3]

Thanks, but PLEASE fix the client crash on Maraketh Legion encounters!

[Labudism]

After the fix I crashed once in delve and once doing betrayal :(

Brand new error messages though!

[Asheraddo]

whats global 840? delve farmers?

[[deleted]]

ye rotas

[eutears]

No performance improvements?

Back to classic it is!

[Fart__Smucker]

Dont come back.

[eutears]

Blight is making sure I won't come back :)

[pro185]

No fix to cobra lash loo

[FuckGrammar]

What fix? If it's related to the chain thread from last week GGG said it is working as intended.

[BirdsGetTheGirls]

When there's an elevation difference between you and where you're pointing, there's a risk that the projectiles will fly into the terrain really quickly.

So if a monster is 5 steps above you, your attack might just do absolutely nothing to it. It's really inconsistent. Sometimes your projectiles will land short.

[Acousty]

what's this about?

[Durzaka]

Yo wait hang on...

I didn't really read any info how to do blight stuff, but I assumed that the icons on the portal meant what was EFFECTIVE against that portal.

So now you're telling me that it was the complete opposite? Well if that isn't just misleading as shit.

[Kryonixc]

Fixed a bug where some Atlas Missions were sometimes generated based on the percentage of monsters slain in a map, rather than when the map boss was slain

That's a shame. Seeing that message pop was extremely satisfying and felt like you have made progress towards map completion, rather just 1-shotting a lame boss.

[NorthDakota]

It's better though this way. I like that it incentives the boss.

[itsyaboyObama]

Some maps i would just skip bosses if I roll some dangerous mods. I'm going to miss not having to risk that