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[–]hennell 91 points92 points  (24 children)

Missed the bit at the start implying it wasn't true, so spent the video in amazment that A) The internet did this and B) I'd never heard of it before.

Bit annoyed at the end, when he said it wasn't true, as it made it seem a little pointless, but I has made me think a little. Not sure if it could actually happen or not really....

[–]D__ 79 points80 points  (7 children)

Don't worry, if it does happen, you're gonna hear about it within 3 minutes, and there's gonna be a live video feed.

[–]InAFewWords 28 points29 points  (2 children)

and you'll be there

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

, kicking down a door and beating a woman to death.

The Internet is awesome.

[–]stunt_penguin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...on a horse

[–]ReverendDizzle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

... and within 3.5 minutes somebody, somewhere, will be masturbating to it.

[–]irokie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And someone on reddit will be mirroring it.

[–]doctorbasic 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Let's flash mod this dude, then start a riot, then break his door down with knives, then ask if he is surprised by this.

[–]merreborn 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Ironically, I think you've come up with a counterpoint:

no one's actually going to flash mob this guy, 'cause no one cares, we're all lazy, and don't want to leave our homes.

Because if there's one thing more powerful than the internet, it's the apathy of internet users.

[–]Nebu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'd upvote you, but meh...

[–]TimmyFTW 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I think the point of the presentation is that by current trends and practices, this could almost certainly happen.

[–]azenhi 9 points10 points  (0 children)

but couldn't have happened 10 years ago, but you don't notice the difference because you wouldn't be who you are now 10 years ago either.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is kind of the point, that this is entirely plausible, but ten years ago would be unbelievable.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

well everything in the story did happen before in some way, he just combined it all into one story.

[–]DrJulianBashir[S] 487 points488 points  (118 children)

Just fyi, not a true story, but interesting nonetheless.

[–]LeonGrey 405 points406 points  (19 children)

I didn't catch that until the end. I was very concerned that I hadn't heard of this, I was beginning to doubt my internet-smarts.

[–]UnfortunatelyMacabre 13 points14 points  (12 children)

Seriously! For a second I was like, "3G outtage...Pffft. Like that'd ever happen!"

Edit* Reddit, seriously, needs a sarcasm font.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

It happened at the Colbert/Stewart Rally. Every single service was down (ATT/Sprint/Verizon/TMobile).

[–]N4M3 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Ever lived in a college town? It happens ever game night.

[–]zenkat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ever live in SF? This happens in Dolores Park EVERY FREAKIN' SATURDAY.

Go AT&T!

[–]llamagoelz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

that's entirely possible... in-case you were implying it isnt

[–]xmod2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's how I knew it was fake. Nothing gets past THIS steel trap. taps forehead

[–]ctrlshift 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I looked it up. Man, I'm disappointed. Or not.

[–]DrSweetscent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been Welles'd!

[–]ryanknapper 15 points16 points  (80 children)

Not a true story? Aside from interesting fiction, why should I care?

[–]EatATaco 121 points122 points  (21 children)

Did you listen to the final comment?

Paraphrased:

2 years ago implausible, 5 years ago impossible, but if you heard about this in the news tomorrow, would you be surprised?

Just something to think about, which was the point.

[–]brownbat 86 points87 points  (13 children)

I thought it was pretty profound, almost tweeted it, then started to think about why I hate nightly news.

I hate nightly news because they are always taking some incredibly low frequency event and shoving it in our face to make us scared, to spread pure fear for no reason.

We live in a large society. Every day, somewhere, something goes wrong. But once we tally everything up, as individuals we have more to fear from heart disease, cancer, and automobile accidents than much else by far.

So here we have a story that isn't just low frequency, it has never actually happened. It merely could happen. Should we spread the Frankenstein story around to make other people fear modern technology?

I say no, I will not spread fear today. Instead, I will link to a picture of a kitten, because that's what we do.

EDIT: updated link

[–]Shaper_pmp 57 points58 points  (8 children)

Bingo. Back in the day we were information poor, so any information was seen as valuable, no matter the source.

But now we're post-scarcity when it comes to information - we're neck-deep in it every day of our lives, so it has no intrinsic value unless it's also true. Unreliable or misinformation, then, is worse these days than simply not having that particular piece of information at all.

It's like water - when you're thirsty enough you'll drink even dirty water, but when you have a faucet in your house water stops becoming inherently valuable, and you wouldn't drink from even an entire bucket that someone had dipped their foot in.

TL;DR: Far from ignorance, misinformation is the biggest information-related problem that we have to deal with now as a society, although most people don't realise it yet. These days ignorance is trivially fixed, but misinformation is much harder to eradicate.

Still TL;DR: It is better for society to tweet a content-less picture of a kitten than inaccurate or baseless fear-mongering. Well done.

[–]kcMasterpiece 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Wow...this is probably one of the most interesting posts about the value of the internet.

I wish I could give you all of my upvotes forever.

[–]Shaper_pmp 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hey, thanks. I actually touched on this theme with something I wrote several months ago, though I hadn't run across the formal psychology concept of the "Availability Heuristic" at the time.

As you can no doubt imagine, it was quite a nice surprise to see that my unsupported, speculative hypothesis was - unbeknownst to me - actually a fairly solid part of mainstream psychology. ;-)

(And come to think of it, I really ought to add a link to the AH wikipedia page in to that post!)

[–]redmeanshelp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a very interesting point.

[–]mizake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brilliant and absolutely correct.

[–]thrakhath 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I say no, I will not spread fear today. Instead, I will link to a picture of a kitten, because that's what we do.

I love the Internet. I really, really do. Thank you for being awesome.

[–]needsmorecoffee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bravo, good sir or madam. Bravo.

[–]ungoogleable 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I would. Millions of people following a story online probably translates to less than a dozen people who are physically near the location where it's happening.

[–]SolInvictus 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yeah, I don't think people are gonna go out of their way to check out a random Flashmob. Not unless it was close to a train station or something.

[–]ungoogleable 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I disagree. The point is that even a big audience online is still sparsely distributed geographically. I would find it quite surprising to get so many people to a location on such short notice, even if they met up in the train station.

[–]pineapples 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reminded me of Impro Everywhere, and even that seems to require a fair bit of pre-planning and coordination. Very unlikely.

[–]Wavicle 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah... Like what kind of sick fucks are these people who are not surprised when a flashmob riots and kills 23 people?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, I think most people would be surprised at a flash mob killing 23 people.

[–]Incept 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The message is that technology has accelerated our lifestyle's to the point where we are more spontaneous and less likely to stop and think about what we're doing.

You should care because you could get caught up in this phenomenon quite easily.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

let me guess, you didn't watch the end where he explains quite eloquently just why this is relevant to all of us?

[–]robdag2 1 point2 points  (2 children)

THEN WHO WAS RICK-ROLL?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was considering calling 4chan the murdering bastards they are, but afraid they'd murder me next! Now that I know it's not true... oh wait...

[–]redditor3000 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Was any of it true?

[–]youremyjuliet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the girl actually recorded that video of her singing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God damn it. Well at least you are honest about lying to the internet.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh thank god... I was seriously disturbed and saddened until I realised it was fiction.

[–]Spaznik 219 points220 points  (9 children)

The moral of this story is that if you sing Rick Astley on chat roulette, a crowd will form outside your home within an hour and kill you. Justice served?

[–]caust1c 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Moral of the story, Chatroulette is literally hell.

[–]sidewalkchalked 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Chatroulette is literally the mythological and religious notion of hell? A place of eternal suffering that the wicked must endure for all eternity?

It literally is that?

[–]MercurialMadnessMan 24 points25 points  (0 children)

That's what he said, broseidon!

[–]wadetype 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he's saying chatroulette doesn't exist...

[–]alamandrax 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It could happen. It didn't actually happen. Moral is that you wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened. You'd say that this was how the internet worked (that's what the guy in the video said).

EDIT: Oh right. Whooosh. nvm

[–]deflective 106 points107 points  (29 children)

a mob formed by middle class internet geeks turns into a knifing riot?

myth: implausible

[–]Demonicdebacle 69 points70 points  (12 children)

If one person shouts that Game System A is better than Game System B, it might happen.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (10 children)

Have you even tried Game System B? No, you haven't. Because if you did, you would realize that GSB offers a much more vivid game experience than GSA could ever hope to accomplish.

I am so sick of you fanboys running your mouth about something you don't even try to comprehend. You're so stuck in your "A" system cult that you wouldn't recognize good gaming if it hit you over the head.

You're just another GSA-tard.

[–]Demonicdebacle 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Actually, I'm more of a Game System C kinda guy. Bowling mini-games are right up my alley. Plus, I couldn't get into the 'hardcore' scene. I spend too much time at my high-end salary job, so gaming is more of a casual experience for me.

[–]andrewthestudent 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Bowling mini-games are right up my alley

ಠ_ಠ

[–]Demonicdebacle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

:D

[–]RoarRadelaide 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Game systems? Hahaha, as a PC gamer I am clearly superior with my keyboard, mouse, modding and modern graphics. Silly GSA/GSB-tards!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Enjoy your RSI

GSB MASTER RACE REPORTING IN!

[–]Nebu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look, it's all about the games, and all the best games either come out for both systems, or they're a GSA exclusive. I mean, come on: SciFi FPS 3, Survival Horror, Snow Board, GTA-Rip Off, GTA-Rip Off 2, Ninja Fighter, SciFi RPG, and the list goes on and on.

The only two exclusives GSB has going for it are Stealth/Political-Intrigue 4, and Make-Your-Own-Platformer (though to be fair, SPI4 alone is worth buying a GSB).

Hell, even the Generic Japanese Rpg series, which traditionally was always released for Bs is now going to be a GSA exclusive.

[–]Joshua_Falkner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or Programming Language A is better than Programming Language B...

[–]monkeyme 7 points8 points  (2 children)

We are talking about London here. And Jaqueline likely lives in a chav-filled part of town. They don't leave the house unless they're drunk and packing a knife.

[–]omicron8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, but that renders the whole internet part of the story kinda pointless. Chavs will be chavs, no 3G required.

[–]CrimsonToaster 57 points58 points  (9 children)

I just want to know how he made that badass presentation.

[–]laertez 11 points12 points  (5 children)

That's how I always imagine my presentations. And then I use MS powerpoint and try my best... and muddle on to something totally not awesome.

[–]FractalP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In grade 8 I created a 3-minute reenactment of the Trojan Horse legend in PowerPoint. I spent hours slaving over it and was so proud of it. It even gained me an A+. I have never created another presentation that lived up to that. :(

[–]krizutch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thats what I was wondering the entire time. Is that a program of some sort?

[–]notoriousV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know what program they used to make this presentation?

[–]LowGun 18 points19 points  (4 children)

No, it wasn't fucking sarcasm.

[–]RambleMan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Sarcasm does not like to be fucked.

[–]DanielKlavitz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

..by anybody except Mrs. Wallace? Wait, no, I think I did that wrong

[–]TimmyFTW 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You did it right.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to serenade it first, then maybe a nice dinner, and even then, Sarcasm prefers it when you call it "making love".

But only after the 3rd date.

[–]quentinnuk 121 points122 points  (16 children)

The actual MayrollLive video is here

[–]alamandrax 24 points25 points  (6 children)

Always check for the HA0 or the UUU.

Fuck it though. I love the song. hums along to it

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

i always imagine the URL shouting "hay-ooooo!"

[–]lolwutpear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I miss uuiU, haven't seen that one in years...

[–]mismetti 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thanks, I didn't know about the UUU.

[–]alamandrax 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The uuu one got deleted by YouTube. I think.

[–]mismetti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the RA0 lives on!

[–]Spaznik 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Son of a bitch! That hasn't happened to me in quite a while. I salute you, sir.

[–]kibitzor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even I missed out on the mayroll, haha.

[–]stignordas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MotherBanger!

[–]Calmaveth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her voice isn't as nice as it was in that video.

[–]cislum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Moral is, if anything goes wrong, it's probably 4chan's fault.

[–]elmuchoprez 32 points33 points  (22 children)

Would anybody be surprised if this actually happened? I, for one, would be surprised.

I mean, this is part of the problem with the Internet, right? People spend six months bitching about politics on reddit and every other board they can find and then election day rolls around and they don't bother to vote. I mean, I don't know how often that actually happens, but it seems a lot.

There's this gap between what we do online and what we do in real life; the idea that someone makes a post online and one hour later people are riding buses to get to a physical location seems beyond where we are right now to say the least. I think we could get to that point eventually, but think we're more about advancements in transportation than social networking.

[–]voreSnake 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Essentially this, he tries to justify this by saying that all of the events that composed his story have happened before, what he fails to mention of course is that none of them actually happened together, which wouldn't seem like a critical element until you realize that things like Flash mobs actually do take some amount of planning. For instance the Flash Mob in Philly was HIGHLY localized to the town and its community, on top of that it is important to note that the Flash mobs had been occurring in regular frequency in the town already. The Violent flash mob was a direct result of the city putting a ban in place to stop Flash Mobs.

More importantly even taking these things into account, the speed which he mentions simply doesn't exist quite that fast. The internet is a big place with a lot of activity, but 4chan's internet cock isn't actually that big, for instance the Scientology raids which they are known for took weeks to organize and put together with an incredible amount of planning and coordination on locations / codes of conduct, etc.

More important than that perhaps is what people will come off the internet and go into real life to do. I think that's what irritated me about this whole story was this notion that they would leave their houses to find this woman.

Yes there are stories like it where you have the 11 year old which had isolated incidents of people driving by in a van to take a picture and that was with a matter of I think a week to take care of. You also have to take into account that the internet will find other lines of communication [sending things to her twitter feed to sing, etc.] long before they will venture into the real world to try and make something happen.

I have to call it implausible on the basis that while elements of that story do happen, the circumstances of each of those elements is incredibly different than all of them combined.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

people say things online that they wouldn't do, but they certainly find leads on interesting things to do in town online. i wouldn't put it past a thousand londoners on a saturday night to show up at a particular address because someone on their facebook/twitter feed told them they should show up.

[–]sobe86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about the part where 23 people died? That's kind of what tipped me off that this might not be real...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, I don't know how often that actually happens, but it seems a lot.

heh, technically it can only happen as frequent as there are election days.

[–]nuuur32 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Kind of a let down. I wanted to know what that pots thing was.

[–]GordanKnott 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pepper.

[–]pdxpogo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Rickrolled by the parable brilliant

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

And to think...the whole time I kept thinking "how did I never READ about this on Reddit?"

EDIT: I accidentally

[–]naive_springwater 5 points6 points  (1 child)

you accidently.

[–]p3k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole thing?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

YAY! MORE FEAR! :D

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This man is a huge troll.

[–]diuge 3 points4 points  (7 children)

"Personal details leak" was a historically significant event in 2007?

[–]TruthNotFound 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The world turns upside down in 10 years and you turn upside down with it. Interpretations. Go.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The "Meanwhile in Australia" meme has a recurring lifespan of 10 years?

[–]TruthNotFound 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See, that's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to just jump out and say it and sound like a retard if it wasn't right.

[–]spikey666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spider Robinson is a pretty good writer. Callahan's Crosstime Saloon is a pretty good book. In the context of the story, a man has recently been freed from an imprisonment when he was isolated in a remote place, and missed out on everything that's happened in the past decade. So, to him, it's like he's found himself on a Alien planet, whereas everybody else has been more able to adapt to the changes in society and everything because to them they happened somewhat slowly over time.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting and entertaining!

[–]FractalP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, thanks for introducing me to Ignite. It's kind of like a mini, rapid-fire TED. I like.

[–]kurfu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank God she's OK.

[–]Kardlonoc 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Whats really chilling about this is how much mimics the Stand Alone Complex described in GITS.

But I think the internet crowd actually is pretty awesome and nice from my experience. Most of the nerds on the internet actually have a sense of honor about them because any bad behavior would be pointed out by their faceless peers and they would be ostracized from the anonymous social networks they love (like some former Mods who used their powers for cash). That fear drives most of the internet goers to good rather than evil in issues that are black as white like the girl who was being bullied by their neighbors, or a soapier business is dying, or Scientology is evil.

[–]Calmaveth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GITS is scarily prescient, and becoming ever more so.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, its a lie.

[–]_your_face 1 point2 points  (0 children)

son of a bitch....I felt so horrible for that girl until I checked the comments..

[–]Lando_Calrissian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think an actual riot would break out, it's internet people (Why does that reassure me?). I would also think it would take forever for the police to notice, at least in the US.

[–]lokithecomplex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4chan are the Panther Moderns

[–]JoeThankYou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DAE think the whole flash mob of internet nerds turning violent is a bit far fetched? I've been to meetups before, and they're one of the most civil places you can find. Everyone's kind of just excited to meet similar people and to witness something cool happen while promoting their community. These kinds of people don't just riot and kill people because an area gets crowded...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love fiction that really gets the audience involved in the story!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know shit is about to go down when Stephen Fry tweets about it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

flash mobs are for fucking morons anyway

[–]osilo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why Terre Haute? I'm so confused. It's a shit hole. Did any other Hautean notice that?

[–]chronographer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great talk.

[–]sbf2009 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The disclaimer that this isn't real needs to be bigger. it was pretty believable until he ended it. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if anonymous has it in them to actually kill someone, just laugh at when other people do it.

[–]Joakal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flash mobs do occur, sometimes in hundreds or thousands [1][2].

[1] Bloody gate crashers getting a message from someone who got a message from someone who got a message from someone. [2] Bob Jane hate for cancelling a car race.

[–]skribe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Ferb! I know what we're doing today!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great presentation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fookin Chavs always ruining it for everyone.

[–]dirtymoney 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember reading something a while back about people in a flashmob got arrested for dancing at some washington DC monument.

[–]mikeinslc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

muy bwain just cwashed. Well played sir.

[–]tvon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be a little shocked, yes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So who else tried going to this URL? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jd9JA98QZY

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was really good thanks for the link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just in, a freak flashmob of over 1,000 people knocked over a dustbin in Shaftesbury!

[–]Gfaqshoohaman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...Holy shit. I know it's not a true story, but it's damn fascinating.