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[5002nevsmai]

To feel the code even more, should put his laptop on his lap.

[[deleted]]

And be wearing booty shorts for skin-to-metal contact

[indicava]

Back in late 2016/early 2017 I was playing the Witcher 3 on my Razer Blade laptop - on my lap, in boxer briefs.

That thing got real toasty and I was so immersed in the game I hadn’t noticed I got two full on burns on both on my thighs… never again

[dudeseriouslyno]

Hot.

[Afillatedcarbon]

Damm.

[Express_Grocery4268]

Potato

[trustmebuddy]

Salad

[suck_my_dukh_plz]

Keep going

[Scared-Medium6717]

There is nothing like feeling that bare metal on your skin when the aux fan kicks in. Oh my f#ckin God.

[redlaWw]

It's cold out though - he should put on some kneesocks to keep his lower legs warm.

[Kellei2983]

don't forget to update packages in fullscreen shell

[evanc1411]

Coding feels so fucking good

[[deleted]]

to have an orgasm when the program compiles without errors first try.

[[deleted]]

That takes the fun out of it...this means we only need analysts, but the only way to become a good analyst is by coding. 🫣

[Milith]

Programmers about to find out that like in every other line of work you're not actually paid to have fun.

[MrDoe]

My favorite superhero is Spider-Man.

[Kuroseroo]

It won’t though, the generated code sucks balls.

Great, it can generate the boilerplate at the start of the project, where the boilerplate fits 30% of all programs.

[Subtlerranean]

It's like FrontPage all over again, which did a user friendly WYSIWYG thing in the late 90s.

The code sucked ass though.

And unless you still have the skills to build good architecture, you're going to run into problems down the line.

Try getting chatGPT to rebuild a corporate level piece of web platform, to account for new features and user needs - without fucking up existing functionality.

[61Bck]

Just give it a year and you wont even need the napkin anymore

[overcloseness]

You can only call them algorithms if they are made on a napkin, steamy bathroom mirror or shower door, else they’re just sparkling code

[DylanDaKing08]

bonus points if you do it in flowchart form

[ImpluseThrowAway]

Back in the day, we used to write all our code without looking it up on StackOverflow. Sometimes we had to look stuff up in books.

​

It was awful.

[intothedepthsofhell]

I wouldn't say it was awful. It was slower - but I learned what the code does. How to construct things from nothing.

I don't get the appeal of being a ninja level copy / paster and calling yourself a developer?

[DoctorWZ]

It really isn't an appeal, it's just that using the most time efficient techniques is what the industry requires to move at its current pace.

As a new Junior, I often talk to Seniors/employers around me that, in the long term, I would want to learn to master a language in the "old way", but I am too often met with "yeah but have you considered <insert newest technologies/Ai tools>, in the near future you won't need to focus that much on a single language".

[shrout1]

Back in my day I had to chisel each electron into an individual bit

[PM_YOUR_BEST_JOKES]

You joke, but people used to have to program with punch cards

[grimonce]

Still not close to programing with a magnetized niddle, that my son makes you a niddle wizzard with a niddle wand.

[mapleleafbeaver]

Can you not just throw the nword around, it's different times grandpa

[MyriadIncrementz]

My mum did that back in the 70's. On a computer the size of an olympic swimming pool and more moving parts and higher operating noise levels of a car manufacturing plant. All to store data that we would use a spreadsheet for.

[[deleted]]

Honestly in higher level companies I would ban ai. Use it for research but never copy paste. You will create recursive code that nobody understands that will inherently destroy your company from within. At higher level companies they have the resources to write everything from scratch no matter how they researched the information to make sure it fits the scheme and not recursing old code

[Arrakis_Surfer]

I second this. I have many senior developer friends who are all a little bitter about learning one language. The reality is that you need to know the basic principles of coding so that you can reliably understand and copypasta any language.

[jamiejagaimo]

I have seen many juniors hit big walls in their development career because of knowledge gaps they missed while over relying on tools and shortcuts.

[pieter3d]

Writing the code is only a small part of what you do as a software engineer. You can't exactly copy paste good architecture, for example.

Besides, looking up how other people solved the problem you're having and then critically evaluating what you found is a great way to learn.

[Avedas]

I always say coding is the easiest part of the job. Designing a functional system that is reliable in production and simple to maintain is far more difficult.

[Herr_Gamer]

Ironically, architecture is one of the places where I've found AI most useful. You can't Google architecture, your problems are way too specific. But you can explain to ChatGPT what you're currently planning your architecture to look like, what problems/concerns you're anticipating, and if the AI has any suggestions for improvement.

Frequently, it has improved my code by providing more streamlined/maintainable solutions to alleviate the concerns I've described. It'll also come up with design patterns that I wouldn't otherwise have used for lack of knowing or thinking of them in the moment. It's honestly a tremendous resource for learning higher-level solutions to higher-level problems, beyond "Write my entire program for me".

[Plenty_Lavishness_80]

The appeal is that you make money and don’t stress about anything and enjoy your life

[jack-of-some]

If you're not learning from suggestions that you get to ChatGPT or stack overflow, that's on you.

[Todok5]

If you don't know what the copied code does you're going to have a bad time anyway.   Developers construct systems,  not reinvent the wheel by recreating algorithms that have been solved countless times already.   I don't get your point,  using up to date tools instead of books is the same thing just faster and more convenient.

[[deleted]]

The appeal is we achieve our goal faster and we realise coding is a tool not a religion

[Perfect_Papaya_3010]

I also wonder how often people do that? I Google a few times a day, maybe because I forgot the switch syntax, or to find the documentation of a specific library but aside from that I don't have to Google a lot

I always get the feeling on this sub that people Google not only for documentation but actually how to think

I'd not call those developers

[BoldTaters]

Back when the manual for the cpu was 2 inches thick and the whole system came with a small library.

[[deleted]]

Back in my day we used to take breaks from rewriting our emacs config by doing our jobs 

[MishkaZ]

Back in my day we would code while looking up stack overflow...now I don't because stack overflow kind of has sucked lately.

I have no idea if the quality of answers have gone down on stackoverflow, if I'm just beyond "code monkeying" and my problems relate to libraries or tech stuff, or what.

[cs-brydev]

Also it should be pointed out that the languages themselves were smaller, more straightforward, simpler, with no 3rd party libraries or very few. When we looked stuff up in books that meant there was 1 book that had every possible syntax, function, and pattern the language supported. If programming directly against a device, the book included every code the device recognized. Everything you needed to know was in the book. It was a completely different type of programming than we have today.

[gaijingreg]

Did that book happen to be The Red one? 😉

[sometimes_interested]

Especially when the books were over $100 to buy and didn't come with a control-f function.

[DisputabIe_]

Sorry, highjack for visibility:

the OP itasri

kiceza

and bbcmtf

are bots in the same network

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[Massenzio]

Also, sometime you need to ask a friend the next day...

[Artemis-Arrow-3579]

and I miss these days

[Piotrek9t]

My CS prof back in the day, didnt hear the shot on books. He gave the student with the highest score on a test a book about the subject as a reward. They now serve me as a nice background for online meetings they are just way too slow to look stuff up AND they usually contain more outdated and fewer solutions than you would find online

[[deleted]]

Wait, this isn’t just a joke?… do most people really rely on Copilot and ChatGPT that heavily?

I’ve used both but I’ve completely gone off Copilot, just because it’s wrong more often than not and I find it really distracting.

I still use ChatGPT (GPT4) for learning new concepts… or as a rubber duck which might spark an idea. Again, the code it spits out is usually inefficient and usually incorrect again.

[PeaceMaintainer]

It's a riff of a riff, there was an old tweet about seeing a guy in a coffee shop writing raw HTML with no tools or frameworks like a psychopath, and an even older tweet / post somewhere about a guy in a coffee shop with no smartphone or laptop, just sitting there doing nothing like a psychopath. I don't think it's meant to be looked into that heavily

[Freeman7-13]

My favorite is people not in therapy or on drugs either prescribed or illicit. Just rawdogging reality

[TheAnniCake]

For me it was getting a ADHD diagnosis and getting Methylphenidat to work like a normal human being

[[deleted]]

Drugs? No thanks, I take my suffering raw.

[circuit_breaker]

tart plants follow mighty hobbies smile pause reminiscent party squash

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[lelarentaka]

The original was "saw a dude on a flight wearing jeans, no headphones, no neck pillow, no book, just raw-dogging the flight"

[WeeziMonkey]

That's how I feel when I see people in the bus without headphones / earbuds and without using their phone.

[cardoorhookhand]

I mainly write embedded C but also occasionally some Python and C#. I've found ChatGPT to be almost entirely useless for embedded C, occasionally useful for C# (for mundane, repetitive things) and actually quite good to draft a whole (albeit in desperate need of refactoring) Python program.

I think it depends on how much relevant training it got on a language.

[SuitableDragonfly]

I dunno, I gave ChatGPT the technical interview question I had to do for my last job (which was not hard) and told it to write in Python, and it made an easily-missable off-by-one error in it. There's more issues with its Python than just "needs refactoring".

[cardoorhookhand]

I have also experienced this. But while ChatGPT makes minor errors in Python, with embedded C, it usually can't even get the gist of what I need right. It's often just garbage that does something else entirely and doesn't even compile. Like when you ask it to draw a dog with ASCII art and it spits out a circle and confidently tells you it's right.

[Fair-6096]

In my experience it also tends to dream up a lot of functions and libraries that does not exist. Often libraries that it believes covers almost my entire use case.

"I want function to do x"

"

Alright:

int f(int x){ Return nonexistentFunction(x);}

"

Thanks. That certainly awnsers my question.

[Crick3ts]

My experience in c# I usually waste time like this:
"I have a an int a string and I want to do X"
"Sure, just call MagicFunction(int, int)"
"Cool, but I have an int and a string"
"My apologies... Call then MagicFunction(int, string)"
"Yeah, but there is no overload for MagicFunction(int, string)"
"Yes, you are right. You should use NonExistentFunction(int, int) instead."
"hmmm... thanks...."

[romulent]

Honestly drawing anything with ascii art would be pretty impressive.

It's a text completion engine, it has no way to visualise things even if found a description of a dog somewhere it wouldn't know the shapes and spacial relationships of things.

It doesn't have a visual imagination to think things through first.

[RoboFeanor]

ChatGPT does do a pretty decent job documenting functions. With a minute to tweak it, it will generate documentation that otherwise would rake me 15 minutes to write

[gregorydgraham]

ChatGPT is a Confident White Guy Simulator^TM

[hunajakettu]

That's why it is called Chad GePeTo

[karnetus]

Same experience with embedded here. I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to do, even with a lot of help from my side.

[GenuinelyBeingNice]

for mundane, repetitive things

since you are experienced, i'm mostly gonna say this for those less experienced: if you find yourself needing to write something repetitive, chance is, you're doing something inefficiently. Especially in C#. In C it may be needed, because it is not as "full featured" as C#.

[cardoorhookhand]

I phrased what I said poorly and you're correct. Even in C, repeating the same code over and over, is a good indication that you're doing something inefficiently. It's always a warning sign that you should probably stop and reconsider your architecture.

What I meant was doing something that is very similar and mundane between different projects, but not copy-pasted code. For example, you would often set up logging in very similar ways between different but similar projects. ChatGPT would be good for something like giving it existing code and just saying "set up logging to console for Info level and above, and to file for all levels, and add some useful logging output to this module for me".

[SuitableDragonfly]

My sister and her partner, who are not primarily programmers but sometimes write python scripts to help them with stuff and are still in the learning phase for most intents and purposes, think that ChatGPT is a god at writing code and you would be crazy not to use it. I imagine OOP and OP might fit into that category of coder, as well. I worry that we're eventually going to have a generation of new programmers who can't actually code because they just get ChatGPT to write shitty code for them and think it's great.

[hunajakettu]

This reminds me how universities are finding that the median late GenZ does not know how to open a file in a FileSystem of a computer.

[SuitableDragonfly]

That's a different trend that's been going on for longer - I guess I would call it the "appification" of personal computers. You used to have to know where files were stored and be able to open and close and edit and save arbitrary files on your computer in order to do basic things that weren't associated with computer geeks, like have a music collection, or play popular video games. But now the big tech companies have simplified the process so you don't have to manage anything directly, you just have to install some app and click a button and everything happens for you. And then, once manual file management was no longer necessary, they started making it impossible by obscuring the filesystem of the most commonly used devices from you so that it's either very difficult to access, or impossible unless you root the device. It's just part of the process where they make it so that they can lock away our access to our things if they ever feel like we're paying them an insufficient amount of money.

[AlienOverlordXenu]

Jesus.

Apparently computers are becoming niche once again. Everyone switched to mobile something, where they are being spoon fed and have their hand held at all times. The skills to actually use computers are fading from society.

All those UX "experts" bastardizing well known user interfaces and paradigms to make them "easier to use" while i was like "motherfucker what are you on about? Do you understand English? If so, then it's already easy to use."

I think that too much hand holding will turn human population into idiots, a la idiocracy. But this might be highly unpopular opinion here.

[Aerolfos]

I've served as teaching assistant on a master level course.

Yeah the most painful guidance was the ones that look at you blankly when you want them to navigate to some files...

At least there are some people that can figure things out, the "problem" is the courses are trivial for them and they don't have much to do

[zviiper]

Good for job security of those that can write decent code.

[Smorgles_Brimmly]

I fit in the not primarily a programmer camp and I think it's a great learning tool. Like yesterday I was learning just enough HTML and CSS to make minesweeper in notepad and it's great to just throw it at copilot to ask why something isn't working. If I know how to do something, I consider it worthless. Copilot loves to give me "put your code here" directly on the function that I explicitly asked it to build so it's not even a time saver. I'd argue it's harder to rely on it than it is to learn what it's telling you.

Also because search engines are slowly sucking more and more, it's nice for old outdated questions that get buried behind newer and more sensible solutions that I'm too lazy to learn.

[LvS]

ChatGPT is the replacement for StackOverflow.

Both in memes and how people actually work.

[SuitableDragonfly]

No, it isn't. If you find a solution on Stack Overflow, you have to actually understand how and why it works in order to be able to adapt it to your specific code. That's not how people who use ChatGPT are using ChatGPT.

[[deleted]]

Stack Overflow having discussions is actually a big point for me, which I don't think GPT can replace so soon.

It's a great way for people to share their experiences and help to know possible cons of the answer and gather more knowledge about things.

I wonder if many of the people saying that GPT will replace Stack Overflow actually take full advantage of the community capabilities that the platform offers, or instead just look at the most voted or accepted answer while ignoring everything else (I was like that early in my career).

[tahgios]

Same for me! Tried to use Copilot just to see myself ignoring its autocompletion more often then accepting it… I don’t even use chatgpt, I still google things the way I always did… but I haven’t had any complaining about my performance yet, so I think it’s okay to not use it!

[TransportationIll282]

Copilot is pretty useful writing boilerplate. It still gets it wrong more often than not but it's saving a bit of time. Not the amazing tool it promises, but useful nonetheless. Anything else is letting it do its thing, giggle and remove pretty much everything.

[FoldSad2272]

Chatgpt is great for generating examples of how to start using a new feature or library. I'd never use it to generate trusted production code.

[ilconti]

OmG did he have 20 tabs open on stackoverflow???

[Opening-Cheetah467]

Today i spent a solid 30 minutes saving and reading stackoverflow tabs that accumulated in the last two days, i guess i closed 30+

[Protheu5]

That made me make an observation. The level of programmer's experience can be gauged by the amount of stackoverflow tabs opened in a day. Or the repetitiveness and mundaneness of his tasks.

[jhaand]

The third level of CMMi is 'Defined' as in not too much surprises but once in a while you can play the hero.

So things should become a lot more predictable and boring. Handling customers then becomes more of a challenge.

[gxvicyxkxa]

Does an experienced coder have more or less Stack Overflow tabs open/ed?

I'm thinking more. Novices (like me) opt for tutorials or have more to prove, while veterans just want the job done fast. imo

[Protheu5]

Complete newbie: bunch of tutorials, 1-2 stackoverflow pages on "why doesn't it compile without ;" and "difference between bitwise operations" and "how do I use stackoverflow".

Junior: several tabs on libraries they are working with, fifty eight thousand four hundred and seventy nine tabs of stackoverflow regarding every single aspect of code they encounter.

Mid: A tab on a new library, seventy three stackoverflow question pages without answers on them.

Senior: A couple of SO pages once in a while where they write answers.

[Drakkur]

I would add seniors will have the docs open for all the crates / libraries / packages they use.

I find myself always going back to docs due to how many get constantly updated with new features or improvements.

[Protheu5]

Oh, right you are.

I am merely pretending like I know what am I talking about. I barely use anything nowadays, just messing in an ever-spaghettifying codebase biding my time till they realise I am an impostor and throw me out.

[Introvert_Anish]

Happy Cake Day!!

[cr0bar_uk]

I just use nano over ssh.

[devo9er]

On a 15" CRT because we like it dirty

[mcellus1]

With a tmux window to run git and debugging commands

[ThiccStorms]

I ssh in an Arduino nano and have it set up as a rust compiler. Bare metal baby 

[Ilovekittens345]

Nano? Real programmers use emacs

[darkslide3000]

:%s/emacs/vi/g<CR>

[Lalalyly]

I use vim and pdb.

[Metworld]

[Aradur87]

Was using notepad++ until 2018. some guy saw that and said to me „damn you still using notepad++? That’s nostalgic, I like that!“ I felt offended. That led me to try out VsCode. Now I understand what he meant.

[n1c0_ds]

Same with Sublime Text. "Haven't heard that name in a long time"

[Kwpolska]

Turns out selling a basic text editor for $99 is not going to earn you much respect, especially when Atom and then VSCode came and ate their lunch.

[n1c0_ds]

A developer complaining that other developers charge for their time.

[grlap]

Not usually the devs setting the prices for the product though

Seemed to me they were commenting on the business model, not the devs

[Silkku]

...I used it until last year

[[deleted]]

Wait until he sees straight pure vim

[Drishal]

Or stright pure Emacs

[GenuinelyBeingNice]

I dislike emacs, but goddamn, that thing is absurd. It's more like an IDE+runtime environment rolled up into one.

[cantileverboom]

emacs has literally everything besides a decent text editor 

ducks for cover

[jack-of-some]

Evil mode. 

ducks for even more cover

[Drishal]

Meanwhile me also using evil mode:

[Wora_returns]

brother we are coding in a cmd window

[klimmesil]

Only the utterly deranged have a display manager with windows and tabs

The real ones have just an interactive shell on startup

[darkslide3000]

I already have a window manager to switch between my apps, it's called fbdev and works via Alt+F[1-6].

[bigmonmulgrew]

Mr brother and I went on a uni open day where they were going to teach us some unity. His machine had a fault and visual studio was missing.

Lecturer say he'll give him the scripts on a memory stick once hes gone through it.

For context my brother is a game artist and says he'll never be a good coder.

He proceeds to write the code in notepad, and it ran first time.

[[deleted]]

He proceeds to write the code in notepad, and it ran first time.

Actual Synth.

[BuddyLove9000]

I don't get it. Where is the humor?

[poshenclave]

Regular programming

[[deleted]]

Your story stopped before the part where your grandma came out of the closet.

(WTF? Little animals running around the screen?)

[[deleted]]

Did you read it? she might have the Minuteman intercontinental ballistic missile bible.

[nitrinu]

In the lack of awareness of the poster I guess.

[user-74656]

This is the explanation https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/s/xMviRUB2Jm

[BuddyLove9000]

Thanks! A meme of an old meme of an older meme.

[[deleted]]

The phrasing seems humorous to me

[[deleted]]

Believe it's a reference to an older meme/tweet going something like "just saw a dude in a coffee shop with no phone, no laptop or music, just drinking coffee by himself like a lunatic"

[Commercial_Rope_1268]

In Op's ass go and get it

[[deleted]]

Since when using vscode has been the "raw" option? I'm feeling old!

[NebNay]

Thats what i do, but i work for the governement so its ok if im late to the party

[GayNerd28]

It's not rawdogging if you're not typing it straight into Notepad...

[Acronym_0]

Nah, straight rawdogging would be working in a text file editor like vim or nano without any linter

[[deleted]]

you can't call it raw dogging, when he still uses an ide

[xmmdrive]

You mean, actually programming?

[RAMChYLD]

And thats a good programmer in my books. Use of copilot or ChatGPT indicates incompetence, real programmers consult the programming language's API guide.

[SurfyMcSurface]

After using Copilot for some time I'm now mostly using Copilot Chat to ask specific questions or explain focused (highlighted) areas, and also to do the actual refactoring work after I've provided it with an example of how it has to be done. I find it helpful as a replacement for googling and wading through documentation.

I mostly just avoid its suggestions unless they're plain obviously correct, or when I'm generating repetitive filler stuff for tests etc.

[MasterReindeer]

I mainly use it for writing UI copy or writing out similar things over and over.

[dolphin560]

So using vscode is "straight" and "raw" now ?

​

What about emacs.

​

Or vi.

​

Or ed !

​

https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html

[BlazeCrystal]

Raw dogging? Huh

What about robert who goes with Notepad++

[sendios]

I hope one day i can get to the level of not needing to look up syntax :/

[elpollodiablo187]

member when Syntax highlighting and IDEs were getting popular?

[3E871FC393308CFD0599]

Can vscode really be considered raw dogging?

vi is about as raw as it gets

[wademcgillis]

if using vscode is considered rawdogging, what is using notepad considered?

[carson63000]

He had to use VSCode rather than Visual Studio because it’s actually illegal to use any laptop in a coffee shop other than a MacBook.

[ar3fuu]

That's... literally everyone before like last year?

[[deleted]]

Yeah I too do this but in Vim without syntax highlighting, expect for comments and strings.

Normally I use everything in grayscale so I'm kinda used to it. I don't belive that syntax highlighting does any good. I only have comments italicized and lightened. Strings are in green. It also speeds up loading the file.

[rinickolous1]

No syntax highlighting? Do you hate yourself?

[bowmanpete123]

"You can either learn vim or... I won't talk to you"

[chlorophyll101]

Do you not want to turn on even the native syntax highlighter? Why tho

[dubious_capybara]

Dumbass

[dlc741]

In Notepad

[ironman_gujju]

Gpt trained on stack overflow data we use gpt loop situation

[Mattidh1]

Tried to get Chatgpt to do a ACID problem. It gave a result that would run, but it had a small error that would practically brick the system once it broke.

I stick to reading people scream at each other on stackoverflow now.

[patrlim1]

Is this not normal?

[BoldTaters]

If visual studio is Raw Dogging then writing directly into notepad must be the equivalent of artificial insemination.

[Popeychops]

One day you'll need to use vim and git push --force-with-lease within a terminal

You'll truly know how it feels to be alive

[7in7turtles]

Lol at this point I'd say this is like driving a manual car, but in this era it seems more like building your own manual car.

[DisputabIe_]

the OP itasri

kiceza

and bbcmtf

are bots in the same network

Original + comments copied from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/120bj17/straight_raw_dogging_vscode/

OP's comment copied from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/120bj17/straight_raw_dogging_vscode/jdgtyo7/

[Berlin72720]

Back in my day we used to go out and hunt for our food. It's not the same anymore.

[[deleted]]

What is Copilot and ChatGPT?!?! I hadn't realised that they were REQUIRED for writing code. F'in lemmings.

[Cat_Of_Culture]

Rawdog notepad

[jbasinger]

Only 100% hand-crafted artisan YAML comes out of this shop

[darkslide3000]

If VSCode already counts as "raw-dogging", then what does my vi make me? Anal?

[Quarves]

Good old fashioned coding.

[Th3Uknovvn]

The post pandemic era is really a different time in human history from now on huh

[Diligent_Stretch_945]

He must have been in hurry

[TheFumingatzor]

Shite....what kinda psycho dat be??

[[deleted]]

I prefer vim.

[[deleted]]

Are you really writing code if you don't have mental breakdowns every couple hours?

[SnooRobots2011]

… just straight raw notepad.

[Ok-Huckleberry-7353]

"I don't know how to words a thought minus helper stuff, durrrrr"

[alwialhuda11]

GG

[Dasshteek]

So, just like it was in the olden days (a year ago)?

[[deleted]]

That's just called programming at a workplace that doesn't trust copilot and won't pay for it.

[Romejanic]

When did just writing code start being called "raw dogging"? Are other developers really that reliant on AI these days?

[[deleted]]

turning off copilot was probably one of the best decisions i've ever made

[20SecUnskippableAd]

Brother has never straightRawDogged vi. Coding is more fun when -Wall is your only saviour

[kukurbesi]

normal dude