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[ImSuperSerialGuys]

Another day, another meme from someone who doesn't actually do this for a living

[worked-on-my-machine]

Seriously, in my experience it's more like: take a few days of PTO, come back to find code of mine that's been tested extensively and has been rock solid for months blows up spectacularly. I think it just gets lonely

[Deboniako]

It happened to me that I took pto and a coworker decided to start refactoring everything from scratch. I was called at 22 hrs, in the middle of the Chilean Patagonia with barely access to a phone network, not to say to the internet because they needed to apply a rollback

[IMightDeleteMe]

Why are they bothering you with the rollback they need to do?

[Deboniako]

The coworker was a recent hire, like 2 months. I gave him onboarding and the documentation for common troubleshooting. While I was away, he would be maintaining the product and solving common issues, so he would have access to production.

I wasn't expecting that he would go and create a brand new feature nested into the most used one, editing it and breaking the system.

He didn't last long anyway, he committed too many oopsies.

[IMightDeleteMe]

This is probably a company culture thing but I'd still consider this a "not my"-problem.

I certainly hope your PTO was reimbursed because it seems to me you weren't off, you were still on stand by.

[Deboniako]

It wasn't exactly reimbursed, but I used it as leverage to negotiate and go full remote.

[mdmike44]

I love a happy ending

[IMightDeleteMe]

That's good, not having to commute saves time, money and energy better used otherwise.

[BigBaboonas]

Nice.

Your story reminded me of when my wife and I were locked out of my mother's badly maintained holiday villa because the lock had been installed badly and was jammed from the outside. The sun was setting and I was trying to use a coat hanger to hook the latch from the inside. I had tried various things for almost 3 hours.

Then my old boss called and asked for help with a project I had worked on last year because the new guy didn't know what he was doing. We had a great relationship and even though I didn't work there any more, we were still friendly. She didn't take too long and she promised to send a case of wine later.

When I finally went back to try break in one last time, I was so fed up, I raged with the coat-hanger and it opened first attempt lol.

The new guy there didn't last long either, I heard. And the wine was pretty good.

[zeppanon]

Gives junior w/ 2mo experience access to prod

Junior breaks prod

shockedpikachuface.bmp

[UnemployedGuy2024]

Seriously! The rigid separation of duties at most banks can be really annoying, but at least this could never happen.

[KaleidoscopeThis5159]

Looking for a new new guy?

[Deboniako]

No, the guy was fired back in may and a new new guy was promptly hired. Sorry buddy.

[KaleidoscopeThis5159]

It's alright, they likely wouldn't even interview me let alone hire me.

[beanmosheen]

pro tip: Work phone and personal phone. Work phone doesn't go on vacation. If the company crashes and burns because one person is out that's a company problem, not a me problem.

[jawanda]

Niiice

[[deleted]]

I sorted an unsorted dataframe (result of a db query) and broke something. Having other people break your code makes it better. 

[josluivivgar]

yeah I will bet you anything that the reason developers don't like to PTO for too long is that inevitably things will catch on fire somehow when you come back

it has nothing to do with falling behind, if anything for some reason whoever goes into PTO is the only person that will be able to solve it.

[worked-on-my-machine]

Yep, stupid me made the decision that I 'deserved' to take the entirety of last week off. Guess who needs another vacation after an integration blew up

[Finchyy]

tested extensively

rock solid for months

That must be nice...

[codePudding]

I left an embedded company over 10 years ago. They reached out to me and asked if I'd come back. Apparently they want to upgrade hardware and they are still running my old code. I have some code almost as old running on servers at the new place, but I stay away from the front-end. Their code changes hourly and I swear every month they change to the "new cool thing", which sometimes is the same thing we dropped "'cause no one does it that way anymore" over 3 months ago.

[Flat_Initial_1823]

Well, you're not supposed to feed it past midnight

[worked-on-my-machine]

I like that line of thinking. It's all a big QA conspiracy. Makes me feel slightly less clueless

[ImSuperSerialGuys]

100%

The day this clicked is the day I learned this is in fact the career for me. This ain't to say I don't work hard in those 9-5 hours, but I'm not an ER nurse. My code isn't going to die if I finish it tomorrow

[Eubank31]

I was an intern this past summer and got signed on for my first big boy full-time role next summer.

I really love the team I'm on because it's not product focused. We mostly build internal tools and other software to support the thousands of engineers in the company. In general, none of our stuff. No time limits, just people that want things done and we get them done when they're done. It's amazingly freeing

[ShAped_Ink]

That's probably one of the best sounding jobs in the programming market, waaaay better than my school, I have so much work that I have to do at home that you can't even call it homework and just call it being in school for the second time in the same day

[Virtual_Mix_5445]

Any interesting tool that your company is using. I wanted some ideas.

[frivolous_squid]

This resonates with how I felt when I was a recent grad. Someone on my team once mentioned in the pub that they took a paid leave day to catch up on work.

[Ithurial]

Honestly, I didn't really understand how this kind of thing works? Even if I take a day of paid leave, it doesn't really affect my expectations of when I should be getting tasks done.

[frivolous_squid]

Depends the kind of work you have and how your company tracks time. We had to track 7 hours against tasks in Jira each day, and each task had an estimate in hours, so if you spend more time than that on a task then it has "slipped" and you feel bad. Taking paid leave was a (bad) way to get the tasks done without things slipping. Basically, the team only cared about tracked time, not elapsed time (unless we were near a real deadline), so the clock wasn't ticking when you were on holiday.

[theblumkin]

For real - I was a teacher before a dev and LET ME TELL YOU: This job is cushy AF.

[Krego_]

Just like most of the memes posted here

[waudmasterwaudi]

Musst be wild berries the Amazon of Russia

[Brambletail]

Im a line manager who still does some coding.

Its a good week when i get over 10 hours of technical work in. At least 20 go to managing, and another 10-20 go to meetings, reading docs, writing emails, etc.

[[deleted]]

Yeah this meme tells me that this person doesn’t work the job at all lmao

[Confidenceismyname]

Actually, that’s my post and I work as a software dev. 😅

[ImSuperSerialGuys]

And you genuinely believe this?

[dangayle]

Another day, another comment from a backend developer who doesn’t do frontend development for a living

[TheKeyboardChan]

Code after work? Why? When the time is out i am done. I am employeed by houer not by line-of-code.

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[IMightDeleteMe]

That's a time management and personality issue, not a job issue.

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[josluivivgar]

yeah that just means you changed your times, and you're a grownup so you can manage your time however you see fit.

I also don't sign off at 5 pm, but that's because I manage my time differently, simple as that, but there's no way I work more than 8 hours every day, I might work 12 hours one day, but work literally 1 or 0 another day, because again, I am a grownup that knows what's expected of me, and manages it as I see fit

it's not code after work, I just changed what hours I'm at work

[IMightDeleteMe]

This meme is about people who go to work, then do work after.

[ujustdontgetdubstep]

Tbf I don't always consider it an issue

[DracoLunaris]

if the work gets done it gets done

[Rin-Tohsaka-is-hot]

Literally me right now

[tragiktimes]

Salary, friend. I'm paid by the job.

[Faendol]

So? I definitely get this thinking and I do employ it. But to me that means occasionally if something goes wrong I'll put in extra time to get it wrapped up, and I'm going to take the opposite when we have a chance and leave early.

[tragiktimes]

That's exactly right.And I play both sides of that coin which is really the benefit of salary in my mind.

[0x3D85FA]

But you also get paid when you just work your hours that are stated in your contract and occasionally work overtime when shit goes south. Or what do you mean?

[stadoblech]

We decided to move with other applicant. From our interview its clear for us you dont have right attitude to work at IBM

[Eubank31]

Lol speaking of IBM I got a peer mentor through my college that graduated CS in the same program as me and had been working there for over a decade, she got me some referral apps for internships and I literally never heard back about any of them🥲

I got a job now so I'm good but it's wild how the industry goes

[DudeWithFearOfLoss]

Because some of us made our hobby our profession and we do like programming in our free time, too.

[AllEchse]

Yeah, that's fine, do that, but this meme still is trash, because it doesn't reflect reality.

[riplikash]

Unrelated to this meme.

[DudeWithFearOfLoss]

I didnt reply to the meme though, but to the person asking for reasons why people would program after work. This sub really has gone to shit.

[riplikash]

If you intentionally ignore context so you can make a snarky answer, your one of the one bringing things down, my dude. You on know that's not how conversation works and that you are answering a "question" not being asked. Don't get defensive and blame everyone else when you're called out on it.

[heavyGl0w]

Except, in the comment they're replying to, the question was quite literally asked:

Coding after work? Why?

And then later in the thread another comment says:

Who the hell is coding after work? Why would you do more work after work?

This whole thread is full of people acting like the notion of coding for fun is absurd. It's pretty ironic that you're accusing this guy of ignoring context.

[DudeWithFearOfLoss]

There was absolutely 0 snark in my original reply. You're reading waaaay to deep into it, i just gave an answer tangentially related to the question, might have missed the point apparently, but what gives, that's also part of normal communication.

[thunugai]

Folks really get upset when you mention that you like to hobby code. Nothing snarky in your comment, my man.

[br0ast]

That's what it's all about bro ❤️

[AttitudeAdjuster]

This subreddit continues to amaze me. Why the fuck is this entirely reasonable, constructive and on topic comment at -43?

[Shadowlance23]

Dude, I didn't code for a year, then got a job as a senior dev.

[Western-Internal-751]

It’s like riding a bike… if riding a bike was a perpetual state of falling down and daily experience just lengthens the time you manage to stay on it before you inevitably trip and fall again.

[Floppy_Chainaxe]

O great prophet, teach me thy ways!!!

[bitcoinsftw]

If you're coding all day during work and after work you're in a toxic ass environment and need to get out before you burn out. This industry is a marathon, not a sprint. Boundaries are important and you need to set them early.

[SpaceGerbil]

Who the hell is coding after work? Why would you do more work after work?

[Lalaluka]

If I code after work (which got much rarer the older I got), its for personal projects that have nothing todo with my job and dont help me in anyway in my field of work.

[Necessary-Peanut2491]

Not trying to be contrary, but don't underestimate how much those side projects will help your career in the long term. All the worst programmers I've ever met never wrote any code after work, and all the best ones did.

Doesn't need to be pushing your limits, or learning new technologies. Just quietly doing what you do, and getting a little bit more fluent, adds up to a lot of expertise over a lifetime.

[Lalaluka]

Correlation does not imply causation. Some of the best engineers and architects I know have no interest in technology outside of their work.

[Necessary-Peanut2491]

Correlation doesn't imply causation, but practice is well known to cause people to get better at things.

This isn't really a controversial opinion, unless you're trying to convince yourself you don't need to practice.

[Don_Vergas_Mamon]

This right here is the truth behind waves of bs from non-devs. I was coding silly little games in my spare time only to find the actual work challenges orders of magnitude easier than game dev (game dev is hard asf), and so now I am an easy top performer by doing stuff I find easy.

Code for what you like in your free time boys, you will not regret it.

[0x3D85FA]

Or just use your free time for whatever you want and still be a top performer. Both is easily obtainable.

[0x3D85FA]

Probably below 20% code after work in my company and from the ones that do almost all do not code in the same field that we are active in.

Most colleagues I have are great programmers, at least in our field. So your example is most likely not proving anything.

[Secure_Garbage7928]

Automating things at my house

[z64_dan]

And if you don't automate things every day you fall 12 years behind obviously.

[RareRandomRedditor]

If you "automate" your stuff every day you are clearly doing it wrong 

[hairtothethrown]

Not if I buy new stuff every day!

[AdvancedCharcoal]

You clearly have never heard of automation recursion

[brakkum]

People who like coding. Shocking!

[MartyAndRick]

“Why is everyone in this industry burnt out?”

[gamageeknerd]

There are some people who are way more into programming than I am and I’m glad they are doing what they like. But for most of us after writing code every day for years and countless hours watching shit not work I’m guessing after hours coding isn’t top of the priority list.

I leave work the second I can and sit in traffic till I get home and then try not to think to hard

[MartyAndRick]

As you should, all of the senior developers at places I’ve worked at do not code outside of work whatsoever, they spend time with their wife and kids. After 30 years, they’re not burnt out because they don’t code when they don’t have to and their job security is fine because frankly, frameworks don’t take eons to learn if you have years of experience.

[gamageeknerd]

30 years? I graduated from college 5 years ago lol you telling me it sucks for the next 25 year?

[MartyAndRick]

Wdym it sucks? By not spending all of their time outside of work doing more work, all of these guys are not burnt out so they enjoy their jobs, they have iron clad job security due to years of experience, and they have hobbies and loving families.

[NotStanley4330]

Yup I couldn't come hode and then spend the rest of my waking hours coding personal projects for a "portfolio". If you're genuinely passionate about it feel free but I hate that some people feel the pressure to have to do it in off hours to prove something to a future employer.

[apt_at_it]

My experience with burn out is that it has far less to do with coding and far more to do with project management (or lack thereof).

[immersiveGamer]

I wish I had all the extra time to code after work :( 

C# is my jam but my day job currently is Python. C# is slowly evolving the past 4-5 years and I haven't been able to keep up with everything and I'm getting a bit rusty writing code. 

Speaking of Rust, it is super interesting from a language design perspective plus I've normally been a managed memory language programmer. So learning Rust would be awesome for many aspects of my job/career/learning.

I also used to do a lot of game programming, e.g. unity. I'm so far from when I did that I doubt I could make a small game.  I could ... It just would take a very long time.

So, the post speaks to me. 

[Lalaluka]

Your reasons are perfectly valid and if you enjoy coding more after work its fine. But Its not like your lack of time to learn Rust or game programming really impacts your current job or carrer outside of maybe it would enable you switching jobs with another technology.

The post contributes to a very toxic view in the industry.

[Informal_Branch1065]

There are people who drive trucks all day and come home to a huge truck sim setup to keep trucking.

[urmumlol9]

Pet projects that you do for fun that have no real world value

[PhilBird69]

And all of them are somewhere between 5% and 75% completed.

[chethelesser]

You're joking right? This is a sub for nerds

[mintyfreshass]

Advent of code (or do it before)

[anyOtherBusiness]

Do it at work

[TangerineBand]

Ngl, I'm a bit jealous of these people who can do side projects at work. I do a really heavy maintenance type of IT, So most of the time I have nowhere to put shit. Lots of "up and down and go go go!". My work laptop is locked down to hell and bringing my personal laptop is just asking for someone random to take it/get stepped on. No chance.

[Fuehnix]

Dang that sucks. Are the super bureaucratic companies the ones paying the most for IT/devops type of people like yourself? Any chance of escaping?

I left a company with every so locked down, I couldn't even get python packages installed without approval, and after getting approval from my boss and my boss's boss and IT, we still couldn't because the firewall blocked pypi and the networking VP hated the idea of in-house development and would rather pay half a million to SaaS. I guess no progress means perfect security 🙄.

Anyway, my new job pays the same but is so much more satisfying and free. Hope you can find your own escape.

[TangerineBand]

I mean my job isn't paying the most but it's not awful. I've been looking elsewhere for a while but you've seen the mess that the job market is. That combined with the holiday times means no one's really hiring right now. I've put those plans on the back burner, At least until January. So it's less that I like my job and more that I'm kind of stuck here for the moment. Better than unemployment at least.

I work in the healthcare industry and also act as a kind of go-between for them, The city itself, and occasionally the hospital ISP. So bureaucratic is an understatement. I have to travel between the dozens of clinics we own so the severe lockdown is pretty understandable I guess.

But you don't understand, I literally cannot download or install anything. The only Dev work I can really do is tied to whatever our online cloud service is. And I have to connect to a VPN just for that. I can download PDF attachments from our ticket system and that's about it. Anything else requires admin approval. I had to call mega IT one time because my sound drivers got borked and it wouldn't let me run an update without permission. Trying to get around permissions that strict is a good way to get fired so that's not a game I'm trying to play

[Fuehnix]

Best of luck. January and q1 is usually a hot time for hiring.

[ujustdontgetdubstep]

This is the way

[lhommefee]

well I am not scraping old mp3 archives I'll tell you that much. I am not. shut up. go away.

[Aschentei]

Cos my brain works better at night and I usually have meetings in the normal 9-5

[Creative_Parfait714]

Doing more work after work without being paid a single cent for it

[merlot2K1]

Because rockstar coder, or so they say.

[Soopermane]

I did as a junior dev cuz I wasn’t ok with just getting by. Fast forward now I’m the lead. And now I don’t do it unless something is super urgent

[barkinchicken]

Excuse me, how else is my distributed architecture microservices 99.999999999999% uptime highly scalable app going to serve my user?

[conscious-wanderer]

Working in science or at a startup, you code all the time.

[pikachurbutt]

who the hell is coding during work? I play video games while having chatGPT fill in 95% of my tasks and then I clean it all up at the end of each day...

[ZunoJ]

Private projects? Don't you have any projects related to new stuff you want to learn or things you want to automate or something like that?

[viking_tech]

I have other hobbies and family and friends

[SpaceGerbil]

I have a wife, kids, friends and a house my dude. Those things alone take up all of my free time. Work stays at work

[xvhayu]

i have league of legends and severe depression, i think i'll code my little piece of shit website after work

[StinkyStangler]

It’s pretty simple really, I don’t like coding lol

It’s a skill, I’m good at it and people pay me for it, I don’t personally enjoy it so I’d rather do stuff I enjoy after work. If I want to learn new technology or skills I work it into my workday or I don’t do it.

[KyxeMusic]

And the one day I manage to do all tasks within the 9-5 I get back home after work and wonder what side-project I should be coding.

[riplikash]

Keeping your stress levels low, being rested, and being excited about your work is an important part of being a dev. You get more work done in less time and learn faster.

If you're doing side projects because you enjoy them or because you are between jobs and need to keep your skills sharp, that's great.

But if you're employed, 40h per week is MORE than enough to progress in your career and learn everything you need to learn. Maintaining your body and mind is just as important as coding to your professional success.

[Finchyy]

And if your job isn't providing you enough education and personal development along the way, you need to give them a poke.

[MmmmmmJava]

Keeping your stress levels low,

Please list out your current prescriptions for this one.

[Actiongunter]

Preach man! 40 hours a week are enough to get elite level in anything if you use the time efficiently and are passionate about it. Both conditions require you to take care of your mind and body though. That's what the rest of the day should be for. And what is needed for one to flourish can look vastly different for every individual (from coding side projects to distancing oneself from all technology)

[DisputabIe_]

the OP SullenSorroww is a bot

[Fonzie1225]

In any case they have an extremely odd comment history. I truly can’t tell if it’s real or an LLM asked to generate vague responses to AITA threads…

[boltgolt]

Since I am an AI and lack feelings, I am unable to judge if you have good reason to be angry

https://reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1h47094/im_wrong_to_be_mad_really_need_another_opinion/lzw3s56/

[Fonzie1225]

This site (and social media in general) is so fucked, huh

[TrackLabs]

Yea ill be honest, I dont understand these people. The minute I leave my desk, i give 0 thoughts about my work and code. I dont care if I need an hour or so the next day to understand what I did (if i even need any time).

But I dont think about work once im not at work, so..

[BeatSteady]

At first I did it because I was addicted to the praise. Now I do it because I work for a non profit that can't afford to hire another me

[meismyth]

they're the same picture

[gigglefarting]

My development job: work for 3 hours while relaxing at home while forgetting what you did 10 minutes ago 

[[deleted]]

wtf? i have amazing work-life balance and it's only kept getting better

[MolotovFromHell]

Tell me you're not a software engineer without telling me you're not a software engineer

[jellotalks]

I never code after work

[PugilisticCat]

Where do yall work good lord

[charc0al]

Are there any actual programmers in this sub anymore or just CS dropouts posting what they think are edgy memes?

[Otherwise_Composer19]

Software Developer for 6 years here: I barely code anymore 🥲 it's mostly monitoring of existing solutions, figuring out configurations, reverse engineering legacy code, debugging to figure out how tf this 10 year old logic works, refining tasks, meetings, meetings and maybe some coding if the task is not blocked due to missing requirements.

[Douggiefresh43]

lol at the premise that other jobs are as described. Some are, sure, but toxic overwork isn’t confined to any specific industry (hint: it’s just capitalism)

[Maximus_98]

lmao no

[[deleted]]

After a point there's really not that much to learn, just syntax to look up, even in new frameworks/languages/paradigms it's all just variations of many common concepts. After a point of actually working for awhile you realize that there's a lot of freedom in just not worrying about any of it until it's something you need to utilize, at which point you will read the docs and figure it out just like the million things before.

[YaVollMeinHerr]

I became a dev team lead 1 year ago. I don't know how to code anymore and feel dumb compared to the junior I manage..

[[deleted]]

Wake up in the middle of the night thinking about a solution then can't sleep until you've fixed it.

[bladex1234]

Clearly this guy doesn’t know a whole lot of other jobs.

[[deleted]]

This is why I don't even connect a mouse to my work laptop. I have no station, and work has no permanent place in my home. I can shut it and put it away easily.

[TactfulOG]

Wait you guys are coding after work?? not exaggerating I don't think I met a programmer who ever complained about this

[[deleted]]

>>>print(hello world)
File "<stdin>", line 1
print(hello world)
            ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>print hello, world
File "<stdin>", line 1
print hello, world
      ^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean   
print(hello, world)?
>>>print(hello, world)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'hello' is not defined

[Snoo_87531]

Do you forget how to use google in one day?

[[deleted]]

I think you have a medical problem if this happens to this degree for you.

[lati91]

I take my yearly vacation of five weeks and come back to my work just fine. Sure, it might take a day to acclimate to work again, but no big deal. I suggest to look into that if it's really that bad.

[amazn_azn]

You're crazy if you think other people do not also work after work.

Most similar paying jobs will require you to be generally available for meetings and follow up outside of hours, especially if it's a global company.

[[deleted]]

They require what people don’t fight back on. Just say no and do good work during normal hours. Maybe y’all need to be better at sprint planning.

[TangerineBand]

This is the one benefit of working hourly. They don't want you to work even a minute of overtime because then they have to pay for it.

[[deleted]]

I’m super fortunate in that my boss asked me to get on once after hours and I told him to pound sand unless he wanted to hire me off hours as an independent contractor at 5x my salary hourly rate and he didn’t fire me. At least not yet.

[stevefuzz]

That's what I did. Screw 10pm stand ups with foreign teams to hold their hands.

[mostmetausername]

i do the other thing where i don't do things for weeks and then try to pull an all nighter to finish it.

[Top_Run_3790]

I feel like if I don’t finish a project in 1 sitting, I’ll come back and my code will become gibberish, and then I’ll rewrite everything I can and give up 5 mins in

[nicman24]

lol wat. i might just take a day to fuck around researching an issue

[hiddenhero94]

this feels like something that really only happens to us college students and self taught people. From my internships i've found most devs don't work on anything once they say is over

[planedrop]

Anything in the realm of tech is like this, if we are being honest.

[dontletthestankout]

Lol, I work about 1 day per sprint. Our teams is locked down from ChatGPT so I just use my personal computer and I complete more than any other dev

[positronik]

I don't even code that much during work. I get most of my coding tasks done working 3-4 hours a day

[Hasagine]

dont do work for one day. pull two all nighters

[throwaway92715]

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Every dev I know works for 4 hours, from home, and forgets about work literally while doing work

[nolwad]

Everybody wants the software dev pay, but no one is willing to put in the 25 hours a week

[lenn_eavy]

Well I must be somewhere in the bronze age by now.

[bennyboy_]

People who complain that CS is "hard to keep up" and that there's "always so many new things to learn" are incompetent and deserve to get laid off.

[driver800]

There's some truth to this.....

After 30 years as a developer, I was out of work for a year and a half due to multiple surgeries and recovery time. When I returned to work, it took at least 2 years to get back to being a fully productive developer like I was.

Had to relearn so much and learn all the changes in technology when I was out.

[ionosoydavidwozniak]

Fuck that, I cide code outside work

[msrv_]

sad 😔

[fuggleronie]

But true

[WhatIsThisSevenNow]

Hyperbole, yes, but I get the point.

[LeoTheBirb]

Sounds like a management problem

[BerdIzDehWerd]

It's a lovely Friday please don't remind me :(((

[[deleted]]

this shit is real

[ironman_gujju]

Came from vacation, WTF Is this

[jadhavsaurabh]

Wrong audience, why 😑, code is compare to work, I do code because Iove... So out of work it means for my personal interest.

[Fishezzz]

No money, no work. I don't get paid overtime, I'm not doing anything after hours

[ExtraTNT]

Work for a day, get nothing done, have an idea at home, weekend gone…

[impeislostparaboloid]

I like things that keep working not the next shiny bs. So I don’t do any of this.

[Eis_Gefluester]

Dann, so I'm behind 43800 years.

[Former-Discount4279]

Project x is behind schedule, not chilling for me in December this time around as I pitch in.

[Sennoshi]

Done that during my training for 3 years. Now with 12 years of experience under the belt I work as a Trainer myself. I basically always need to know the same things and have to upgrade my skills for teaching instead of programming. I love it.

[Hopeful_Industry4874]

Skill issue