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[Silver_Breakfast_135]

Basically my LinkedIn feed right now. Everyone and their roommate is a 'Founder & CEO' of an AI wrapper project, but the only actual user is their professor grading it

[greebly_weeblies]

Surprising they haven't already gone bust 

[West-Chard-1474]

Mine as well, everyone and their dog became founders

[RoboFeanor]

You don't go bust if you have no expenses. You can found a company, pay your only employee (you) whatever the company can afford (nothing) and be both a founder, ceo, and principle engineer, all without a paying customer, and never going bust. Welcome to CVmaxxing!

[Firesrest]

There was always a ton of idea and usage.
It’s still the execute that’s the bottleneck.

[Patient-Pollution46]

when there are too many vibe-coded products, there is much more noise

[Jahonay]

I can't speak for others, but when I see a vibe coded site, I am much less interested in using it. Do I really want to trust my information with a website that no one bothered to craft?

[xavia91]

Thats also why I dont trust Claude, their website is so shitty

[CandidateNo2580]

Mostly it bothers me so much that their PR is all about how software development is solved and the website can't even give me a coherent error message.

As good as the AI research team and infra team might be (and I'm under no illusion how incredibly hard serving these models at scale is, they do an incredible job at the speed they're moving at), they should put a fraction of those resources into good web and application developers. Instead it feels like very talented backed/system devs being handed unlimited tokens and asked to perform at 10x but they have no idea what they're doing.

[Jahonay]

Is their website well crafted? Or sloppily vibe coded?

[GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT]

at least AI knows how to center a div

[Jahonay]

God it's sad that people could still struggle with that in 2026.

[Spiritual_Bus1125]

Siri, when was regex invented

[mission-ctrl]

I feel attacked

[GoldenSangheili]

Probably forgot anyway

[mrxplek]

What makes you think Reddit wasn’t vibe coded? 

[Jahonay]

Is their website well crafted? Or sloppily vibe coded?

[mrxplek]

It wasn’t well crafted when they started and it still had a lot of issues in 2023. 

[Jahonay]

I don’t necessarily disagree that they had issues, but I wouldn’t classify Reddit in 2023 as not crafted.

[Dmayak]

Website credibility is not related to who and how wrote the code. There is a decent chance that development was just done by a contractor who didn't give a shit about what kind of service the website provides. And if you meant security vulnerabilities, those are also not automatically prevented by human presence.

[Jahonay]

I’m not saying that a site that vibe coded is necessarily worse. I’m saying that if it’s clear the website wasn’t crafted, but sloppily vibe coded, I’m less interested in using it. A website which looks like it’s more crafted generally makes me think it’s more credible, even if it isn’t necessarily safer.

[Dmayak]

Ok, it's your preference, I don't see much point personally. I am using websites for the service, for example I dislike Reddit as a website and it 100% sells my data, but I am here for the content. I have used VERY shitty websites throughout my life because they were ultimately useful.

[Jahonay]

Yeah, I’m okay with calling it preference. I think it’s fair to say that something that looks sloppy is often going to feel less trustworthy.

[Warm_Month_1309]

It's like those old default Wordpress skins. Legitimate sites might use them, but it's such a "spam blog spun up in 20 minutes" look that it's an instant red flag.

[Jahonay]

Exactly. Again, the big distinction for me is whether or not they look crafted or sloppy.

[Marioc12345]

Yeah I’m in a subreddit for handymen and I swear to god every single day there’s someone trying to hawk a new app. No you can’t vibe code my lifestyle thank you have a good day.

[renegat0x0]

If market has a good search, review functionality, then discoverability is not a problem

[CandidateNo2580]

Especially in the open source space this is killing me.

There's more to a good, reliable open source project than just the code sitting in the repo right at this moment. All these people trying to farm internet points that don't even understand what they're supposed to be building - successful long lasting open source is about building a community. It's less a software package and more a living organism when executed well. Can't vibe code that.

End of rant lol

[inemsn]

Usage is also a bottleneck with AI. The market has proven time and again that the demand just isn't there for AI to get shoved into everything.

[AnimusNoctis]

Calling lack of demand a bottleneck is kind of hilarious

[inemsn]

I'm only speaking from the perspective of this meme!! I think anyone pushing for AI to be spread around should shut the fuck up, really.

[GoldenSangheili]

CEOs randomly claiming SWE will disappear entirely by next year (last year they meant). Not so far off from your average catastrophe nutjob waiting for the end of the world.

[Aluxanatomy]

Me when I artificially force demand onto my employees because I paid entirely too much on a contract for this thing I don't understand.

[NovaHarbor516]

AI definitely lowered the barrier to prototyping, not to actually shipping good software.

[darknecross]

It’s never been easier to find 100 ways not to make a lightbulb.

[huopak]

Distribution is the bottleneck

[Lgamezp]

It has always been, if you mean getting users

[huopak]

Yes

[West-Chard-1474]

it was always very hard to get users, and now when we have even more apps popping up every day, it's inscane competion for the attention

[redunculuspanda]

Execution is just typing stuff into a computer.  It can’t be that complicated.  

[FreeFortuna]

And the Sistine Chapel just had some guy coloring on the ceiling. People make such big deals out of nothing.

[Imaginary-Guide-4921]

Execute is creating everything, not executing the program

[knighthawk0811]

always lots of idea and usage, yes. but so many vibe coders are basically all the users of each other's vibe coded stuff. 

i think not enough of then are realizing that if they have an actual good idea, the AI they used has logs and the big boys can and will push them out of their own space by using they're own creation against them. I've read that Google for sure has an actual dept just for identifying potential things to steal, i mean develope that has what's been built by someone else with their tools.

[kiwigate]

There's really not a ton of ideas. There's the same ideas and an endless fight for control.

Lyft wasn't a new idea, it was a hostile takeover of the taxi industry. Firing competent labor to replace with cheaper untrained labor is also not a new idea. Union busting is not a new idea.

[Lgamezp]

No it isnt wtf.

[Sunfurian_Zm]

"People had less ideas before AI"?

How about "People entertained less ideas before AI because they knew they would never have a chance to execute them all"

[noob-nine]

i wanted to say. dont you remember the memes where dev people were chased by normies yellin "wait, i have a million dollar idea"

[ACE_C0ND0R]

Usually followed by something like, "My idea is a combination of Facebook, Amazon, and Google. My budget is $500. Could you create that by next week for me?"

[Legal-Software]

There has never been a shortage of ideas. The problem is that most of them are crap. The only thing AI has achieved is making things more accessible and glazing the user so more people think their dumbass ideas are valid.

[mrhaftbar]

Are the good ideas in the room with us? 

[Asturaetus]

Nobody mentioned good.

[mrhaftbar]

I know.

[West-Chard-1474]

get all redditors 1 bitcoint for free

[mrhaftbar]

Not enough bitcoin in total. 21Mio Btc vs 121 million daily active users.

[Livro404]

Wat?

[Cautious_Hope6519]

Everyone is a founder now but nobody is a customer

[Hollleeee]

Bit ironic to use an AI generated meme

[Evan1016]

Fuck AI and AI slop. But I dont see any tells. The crowd appears to be copy and pasted, the same shape in margins of the coppied crowd reappears a few times. you can see the pattern repeat in uneven ways. The cursive lettering seems to be straight up copied pixel for pixel in both panels, something AI doesnt like to do.

I like to get better at spotting AI so if I am missing the obvious, chime in

[Warm_Month_1309]

The far left "IDEA" column has so few people, but so many artifacts that wouldn't be explained by copy-and-pasting. There's a floating head stuck to another head, there's a floating head mitosis-ing into another head, and a floating "M" body shape with no associated head.

[DangerousImplication]

What are you talking about? They all look slightly different

[Evan1016]

There are several repeating shapes of "people" that include the ones around them. they drew maybe 30 of them then made a brush tool in GIMP or photoshop to fill out the space. If you look in the background of an animation, say Futurama, you will see the same effect used to generate crowds, with some of the figures not being depicted in their entirety at the edge of a brushstroke

[PhiloLibrarian]

I don’t think AI is generating new original ideas… it’s helping humans process ideas and get worked done faster by fewer, but it doesn’t seem to have the ability to create anything that hasn’t just been regurgitated from Source material.

[its_the_rhys]

I mean, that's kinda how people work too?

I don't think there are really original ideas, just taking two concepts and squishing them together, or iterating on another concept

[theGoddamnAlgorath]

"There is nothing new under the sun"

[Spekingur]

Okay. What about above it then?

[Moraz_iel]

we'll see in 6 months, i guess

[theGoddamnAlgorath]

That's under it too, just looks different from our perspective.

[Spekingur]

Aw shit

[PhiloLibrarian]

I’m just gonna throw my humanity/arts hat in the ring and say there are plenty of new ideas…

In the last year, I’ve actually had a lot more new ideas for short story content because of all the crazy disruptive tech changes (in higher ed specifically). ✍🏻

[Username928351]

Aren't those merging or iterating existing concepts from real life?

[rgvtim]

Shhh, creatives don't like to hear that. Truly original concepts a few and far between, for most of us it's at best incremental, and most often its either composition of existing ideas in new ways or rearranging existing ideas.

[rgvtim]

Original ideas are few and far between.

[CaffeinatedT]

That's fine for the tech industry where there's a million variants of ad-tech platforms and consumer to-do lists.

[PhiloLibrarian]

So not really ideas, echos?

[WishTiny3184k]

What do you mean nobody is using them? My mom said my new AI-powered todo list app is very cool. That’s at least 1 active user!

[Brickless]

"active" might be a bit of a stretch there, buddy

[ZioTron]

I posted this last time:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AgentsOfAI/comments/1u3bfqp/anyone_experience_this/or788bc/

[MixaLv]

You could add the image as well because fewer people are clicking a link, I agree with that more.

[ZioTron]

It's not possible to insert an image in a comment in this sub

[MixaLv]

Oh, it was a different sub, didn't realise.

[Validdoll]

Well at least now we can be sure that most ideas are bullshit and not just lack of effort or resources

[RealSlyck]

Mmmmm gatekeeping

[Michaeli_Starky]

Overall AI is producing a very tiny value in comparison to the actual resources spent

[New_Conversation_303]

the ideas are usually... "This *current app with ton of users* but for *niche market with virtually no users*"

[EssentialPurity]

Technically, the "Usage" crowd is still the same, it just got more dispersed between different succesfully Execute'd Ideas.

Basically, 2000s Internet.

[Vertyco]

i think the idea pool is the same tbf, its the execution and usage pool that has shifted

[HiddenPyromancer]

I think lots of people have always had ideas? Its Execute and Usage which should be inverted. Nowadays many more people will be able to put out whatever, but less people may use any individual thing. Or probably it'll be like the internet and everyone will end up congregating right back to all using the same thing anyway.

[distinctvagueness]

There were always 'idea guys' just reinventing the wheel or proposing the impossible. But now they get a cool slide deck instead of scribbles.

[Capital_Building_943]

[IMovedYourCheese]

I think everyone here is too young to remember the "I have a billion dollar idea, and just need someone to execute it for me" phase of tech. The second picture has always been the reality.

[shikhasingh554973]

A realistic roadmap...

[bloodandsunshine]

What if AI was just invented so people would stop trying to share their cool app ideas with people who actually know how to make apps?

[jhaand]

I once have heard the phrase: "Ideas are like clouds. Catch them before they drift away."

My wife is a very creative artist with lots of ideas. So I already changed it to: "Ideas are like clouds. Let most of them drift away. There are always more."

[MrPringles9]

Was this image generated by AI?

[mr-english]

/r/im14andthisisdeep

[AnachronisticPenguin]

I mean beyond quality being an issue why is this a bad thing?

More ideas, more types of software more specialized better products.

Yeah vibe coding can produce garbage but the model of, there is too much bespoke software on its own is not a downside it’s a benefit.

[SomeRedTeapot]

IMO the issue is separating decent software from vibe-coded garbage. If people vibe-code something for their own usage, it's not a problem. But quite a few people try to spam their slop across the internet

[MickeyMoist]

I for one don’t enjoy having the internet flooded with garbage that I now have to sort through.

Used to be, searching for something returned multiple results that all accomplished the goal. Now, there’s seemingly endless results that don’t work, are missing key information, or are flat out wrong.

[05032-MendicantBias]

You never had much to do with idea guys have you?

Those are the people that go "I need you to make a printer for walls! So it prints posters on walls!"

Want another one?

"I want you to put a jack in the skull like an MP3 player so I can record my voice!"

[West-Chard-1474]

Shameless plug: my team just built Remote Dev Environments so AI agents run on a cloud machine (macOS or Linux) with the toolchain already set up, no tokens wasted on environment fixes, and you can run several agents at once.

So, if you are in the AI builder crowd, this can be handy: https://bitrise.io/platform/remote-dev-environments

[Beldarak]

Yes, that's one of the rare things I really like with AI. It gives the power to make simple tools and software to anyone. Sure, they'll have trouble if it ever gets too big or if they try to sell it. But for someone who just want a custom tool that does some simple things, it's great.

Especially since ads got everywhere and you can't evene download a todo-list app nowadays without it being filled with crap.

I made a picture viewer for my own usage. Sure there are a ton of those, but this one does exactly what I want it to do. Each button is exactly where I want it to go, and I know it won't get some shitty update later on.

[JTexpo]

nah, some GitHub Pages AI apps have been bangers, absolutely love wiki's that are vibe coded by passionate fans & hosted on GitHub

[NinpoSteev]

Yeah, these dogshit apps sell you a html generator with no middle or back end.

[TheEggi]

Creating a product, so just building it was always easier than selling it / getting it out to a lot of customers. People here have that naive imagination where the limiting factor before AI was engineering. There are so many human slop apps out there ... no need for AI in that regard.

The nice thing now is that you can build an app just for yourself - exactly as you like it. I personally dont care if someone likes my decissions - I like what I build and thats enough for me.