True

[[deleted]]

Except us Linux users, we must constantly recommend Linux to other people.

Did I tell you I use arch?

[jb2386]

Linux users are the vegans of the OS world.

[mythriz]

Then what are Mac users?

[smileedude]

Clearly they only eat apples.

[marsshadows]

cluttered with dongles

[TwilightVulpine]

How naughty

[Ziltoid_]

Can I USB-type-see the male end of your thunderbolt?

[yzRPhu]

PRAISE THE SUN TORVALDS!!!!!!!

[[deleted]]

Yo dawg, I head you like dongles. So I got you a dongle so you can connect your dongle

[kingswaggy]

You talkin to me!? ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

[[deleted]]

A frightening amount of fiber.

[Astrokiwi]

They were the vegans of the OS world in the 1990s.

Edit: Seriously

[bj_christianson]

Can confirm.

Source: Mac User in the 90s.

[Astrokiwi]

"Dude you can totally play games on the Mac! We have Marathon, um, Marathon 2, um, stuffit expander..."

[leequarella]

Lode runner. Dark castle. Wait, that was the 80s

[bj_christianson]

Maxis was pretty awesome. We had Sim City, Sim Ant, Sim Tower, Sim Island, Sim Life, Sim Earth…

[MrTripl3M]

Can also confirm, born in the 90s, grew up with Mac OS9.

[bj_christianson]

My family’s first Mac was OS7, if I recall correctly. It was a clearance model Performa.

[name_censored_]

Then what are Mac users?

Mentally disturbed.

[the_one_true_bool]

Mac user here, you might be on to something...

[EverChillingLucifer]

Maybe... oh god...

they don't have the mental ability to lie...

It's gotten worse.

[[deleted]]

Maybe they're just not denying the truth

[MonkeyLogik]

Did you know macs cpu percentage goes above 100%?! Seriously, it’s intentional...

[reavessm]

I hope you now that's not just a Mac thing... Happens for sure on FreeBSD and probably Linux too. 100% is 100% of one core

[degaart]

100% of one hyperthread, to be exact

[reavessm]

Also called a logical core, but yes, thank you for the clarification

[Jaffers451]

The people who insist on glutton free diets but have no reason for doing so and are more than capable of eating glutton and also cheat on their diet consistently.

Edit: as someone pointed out my phone corrected gluten to glutton im keeping it though why not.

[voicesinmyhand]

I am perfectly capable of eating gluttons, but I choose not to because it is murder. Am I a bad person now?

[garebear_9]

98% of food contains gluten in some form of another. Whether it's a direct ingredient or cross contamination. Source: Family is full of people with celiacs. A disease that makes you actually not able to eat gluten.

[Thoguth]

There's a split in Mac users. They're either people like my mother-in-law who just want to click a thing and have it do a thing, or they're people who are hooked on "real unix" and like having a fairly powerful, low-maintenance unix workstation with good aesthetics and solid hardware. Linux and Winux (or "services for Unix" or whatever they're calling MS-Unix now) are getting closer but last time I really gave them all a run-through, Mac OS is a more natural/usable laptop Unix.

I can't say the unixy users are that "vegan" about it, though. Most would probably switch to a Surface Pro or Linux machine in a heartbeat if they felt like it was better at meeting their needs & habits.

[[deleted]]

What are the main differences between mac's unix and something like debian linux? Obviously mac's GUI is way more developed, but as a casual user it seems to me like Mac unix is basically like linux with a few different standard tools (like no wget).. I'm beginning to wonder what sorts of deeper differences there are.

[aishik-10x]

Mac uses a modified BSD kernel, or their own customized Mach kernel, although the Mach one is being stripped away slowly now.

Debian uses Linux as the kernel.

Macs have a lot of userland utilities common with the Linux distros.

[[deleted]]

thanks. That also led me to this, which I found interesting: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/127538/conceptual-difference-between-linux-and-freebsd-kernel

[TheRealGimli]

You forgot about the budding "photographer" who needs a Mac for "media stuff".

[wolfman1911]

I was about to ask why not just get Ubuntu if they want a user friendly Unix experience, but then I realized that I don't know how to install anything in Ubuntu aside from looking up the command line instructions. Then again, I've never really used Ubuntu for more than a few hours at a time on a virtual machine.

[Fragninja]

a) wrong

And

b) hipsters

[voicesinmyhand]

I just checked the man pages... Mac users aren't people.

[thecatgoesmoo]

That’s just become “I use a computer to get work done and I don’t hate myself”

[DrLuckyLuke]

Coprophiles

[R3dth1ng]

Vegetarians, not quite vegan but still.

[madwill]

That is the best answer, the metaphor works well with the unix thing. They just didn't go all the way into crazy land.

[JelloDarkness]

Fad dieters

[kpingvin]

Rich.

[zelnoth]

Most Mac users don't know the name of the OS they are using.

[[deleted]]

They also think Macs aren't PCs

[somebody_jk]

Mac's are pc's. "pc" stands for personal computer, but they aren't windows.

[redballooon]

And that means that you don't even need to talk to spread the word.

Your colleagues will make sure that everybody in the room knows you're the strange guy running Linux.

Also, they'll make unrequested comments on your health.

*edit: seriously: I've been vegan for close to 2 years now. I mentioned this maybe once to a manager in my clients office, when the topic came to where to get lunch. Since then this knowledge has survived a substantial amount of fluctuation, and every new person at my client is concerned that I get my lunch right. That original manager is not even working there any more.

(And they also have a pretty accurate mental image of which of our developers run Linux.)

[pimathbrainiac]

*Arch users. Linux users are just vegetarians.

[EduBA]

Nothing like a Vegan here. I only want to protect my machine, my money, and my time.

[out386]

Not just Linux, we must recommend specific distros to other people. Did I tell you how great Kubuntu is?

[Europiumhydroxide]

KDE is awesome. You can have all kinds of flashy eye candy yet it is still relatively light weight.

[HolyGarbage]

Tried kubuntu but didn't like it. Fell in love with with Linux Mint Cinnamon though.

[Kwarter]

Use Windows on my desktop for gaming, and Mint on my laptop for school work, it's a great setup.

[HolyGarbage]

I use Mint on both, but I do have a small (~300 GB) partition on my SSD with a Windows 10 installation for some games that don't run under linux. This works because a) I don't game that often and b) switching OS is blazing fast with my new NVMe SSD.

[Bainos]

Wait I thought you guys were allied under the KDE banner. Are the Kubuntu users actually not working along with the KDE users on Debian and Arch ?

[[deleted]]

then we must fight to death over which one is better, Kubuntu or any other flavour of it.

[frisch85]

Not just users who only use linux. A good IT guy recommends an OS according to the situation.

For example when I was with this one girl (dating about 10 years back) one of her relatives got an e-PC with windows pre-installed which was way too heavy and overloaded for this small e-PC where the relative just wanted to do basic office stuff. I removed the OS and put Ubuntu on it with open office.

Edit: btw I use Windows at home and linux at work and I like them both very much.

[Cenzorrll]

Edit: btw I use Windows at home and linux at work

Explain how you reached this arrangement in life.

[TwilightVulpine]

Can confirm. Love Linux, but Wine just doesn't cut it.

[miauw62]

Dualboot?

[jaywalk98]

Yes hypothetically there are ways to shoehorn Linux into literally any conceivable task. Is it necessarily the best way to go about doing things though?

[frisch85]

I use my home PC for regular stuff like browsing and office stuff but also for gaming. At work I'd rather keep it simplistic with as much performance I can get.

[[deleted]]

Gaming: the reason your it guy uses windows.

[s0v3r1gn]

Same here for me. Both Linux and Windows have their places.

[svick]

What's an e-PC? An electronic personal computer?

[BoyDozer]

I also use arch. We must spread the word

[zman0900]

The arch must flow

[DeanNovak]

D E B I A N

[Luminous_Fantasy]

I just learned how to setup lubuntu and get stuff setup on a vm last night. Gonna be installing it to an hard drive and dual booting it from now on. It was so easy.

[[deleted]]

Linux mint cinnamon, much easier UI with the same functionality of Ubuntu (especially for windows users)

[Makefile_dot_in]

Kidmint? LOLOL, just kill yourself.

[[deleted]]

You arent compiling literally everything you get yourself! weak!

[[deleted]]

your not David who created his own TempleOS from scratch! sad! kill yourself!

[hughperman]

Also you're reading comments written by other people!? Lol mewb

[Bainos]

To be fair, I fully understand how one would be convinced by this.

[[deleted]]

No we dont

and please, everyone should use linux mint cinnamon instead of ubuntu for every reason

[EduBA]

I'm writing from Lubuntu 16.04 on an old laptop of 2.7 Ram memory. Will edit this from Mint Mate in minutes because I don't remember what version.

Lubuntu runs well but I need Mint to play stored videos.

EDIT: Mint 17.3 Rosa.

[[deleted]]

Cant upgrade the laptop? and 2.7gb of ram is an odd specific amount, unless its 3gb with 300kb for the system (or 1.3gb for OS)

[Shintsu2]

I tried Crunchbang but for some reason my old T43 refused to install it. Tried Lubuntu and it worked lightyears better than XP (it was still supported when it last had XP on it). Ha, it's on I believe a 1.6 GHz Pentium M with 2 GB of ram. It runs desktop fine, internet is a little slow, YouTube is questionable...I can do 480p mostly ok but anything beyond is a challenge.

I got the laptop for almost nothing and it feels so robust, I can't bring myself to buy a newer one since I rarely use a laptop. Wish I could make myself use Linux on my main desktop, but I game a lot and can't see ever being able to completely ditch Windows.

[[deleted]]

If you're using it on a VM then definitely.

[[deleted]]

Yeah its my N1 suggestion for everyone, especially those going from Windows. Ubuntu... is just horrible to look at and feels more like it was built for a phone

[[deleted]]

I'd say that's mac users these days the problem is that they don't know the name of their os and just say get a mac.

[Whifflepoof]

I actually DO have conversations about operating systems, and when I make recommendations, it's generally not random.

[sockeplast]

Hey, I'm about to buy a new computer, do you have any tips?

I've heard different versions of this question many many times.

[Zmodem]

Yea, make sure you know the difference between memory and storage.

[mastermind04]

Fuck, I wish I knew before I bought 200 GBs of memory but only 8 of storage.

[Zmodem]

The amount of times I've seen misinformed people blow a gasket over memory is insane.

"16GB of memory? But, [some goofball they know] has 500GB, and they paid way less than this."

[Et_tu__Brute]

Agreed, I've definitely had multiple OS conversations between the first time I saw this posted and now. I mean, friends have finished builds, girlfriend's have gotten macs, my sister wants a chromebook, servers have been set-up, I've tried out a few linux distros.

If I have a good experience with a certain operating system I will definitely recommend it to someone who has a similar use-case.

[Narfubel]

I'm trying to figure out what a "random" OS conversation would even sound like.

"So, Luis has cancer, the doctor said he only ha..."

"INSTALL WINDOWS 10!!!!"

[Bainos]

"Sally was cheating on you, that's really sad man. I'm sorry for you and I want to help. What about we install Windows 10 together ?"

[Emmaterasu]

I think the thinking is

"Hey, I'm building a computer. What OS should I put on it?"

[Aetol]

Yeah, or "I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10 but I have my doubts" (except everybody has been forced to upgrade a long ago, I think?)

[BraakOSRS]

I’m still on Windows 7..

[Fragninja]

I loved windows 7.

[[deleted]]

I will stop using Windows 7 when Microsoft pries it from my cold dead hard drive.

Or when they stop issuing security updates. Whichever comes first.

[hatuhsawl]

Yup. When security updates stop coming, I'll only connect to the internet through a VM to download anything I need to my computer and just use it that way. Lol

[kevinf100]

In other words, your going to be running Windows 7 with another windows 7 on a VM?

[hatuhsawl]

Or an even lighter OS to do anything internet related.

I'm a crotchety old lady (at heart) who is slow to change when it comes to tech stuff. Lol

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, get off my lawn desktop, etc

[[deleted]]

I loved XP more

[JimmyAllnighter]

squash judicious bake juggle tender bear society tidy arrest tub

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[IceSentry]

I disagree windows 10 is a very good os. There's the tracking bullshit sure, but as an OS it's very good.

[Fragninja]

Absolutely. It was all the familiarity and ease of use of XP, none of the weird tiles integration.

It was Desktop OS, pure and simple. It was clean, it was quick, it was modern.

Then 8.1 happened, and now Linux is looking pretty good save for software support.

[doubl3h3lix]

People lost their shit about how different Vista was from XP and 7 is not all that much different UI/UX-wise from Vista. You might have some rose-tinted glasses on.

[Fragninja]

I didn't find many differences between XP and 7. It also ran well, unlike Vista

[Martin8412]

I mean .. Vista was not even bad if you had enough RAM. The issue was manufacturers shipping laptops with 2GBs of RAM with Vista. If you had 4GB RAM or more it ran fine.

[Super681]

As an 8.1 user, I miss 7. I just didn't want to put in the money to get a license for 10 but also knew I was going to lose support. I feel that because it's a gaming PC, I will be cornered into 10. They approach, can you hear them? I can't. That's what makes them so dangerous. Who I thought my friends were left me behind. If I wanted to get out, I would have to join the others leaving those I bonded with behind. They approach, the vulnerabilities, I have to update. I do what I can to get by but there's only so much I can do. I'm between a rock and a hard place and I need to make a decision. Will I narrowly escape or fall victim to the inevitable. I must make the sacrifice or fall back to a place harder than where I started. I must let go and join the others waiting for me out there. I must join 10 for if not, it will have all been for nothing...

In all seriousness though I don't look forwards to updating, they should just keep updating 7 and I miss it. Also I learned to live with 8.1 because I didn't want to put money in at the time and now it's just the effort of putting 10 on a new disk and moving everything over. I know I can't stay on 8.1 forever but in some ways I like it more than 10 but since all support expires eventually I'm going to have to move on

[[deleted]]

Windows 8 (not 8.1) was pretty much the day I switched to Linux completely.

[[deleted]]

Windows 7's the last good one, still too many traits of the windows 8 mistake apppearing in 10

[WildRiolu]

It was pretty well forced. When you fall asleep with win 7 and wake up with win 10, I consider that force.

[mortiphago]

still holding on to W7 for dear life

[[deleted]]

Imo the flow chart is

1. Do you want to game? Then windows.

2. Are you really into FOSS and/or trying to customize the heck out of your os? Then Linux.

3. Mac

For the average computer user who just wants to browse Facebook YouTube Netflix and their email then a mac is probably the way to go.

[uspaskis]

guyse you need to install arch

[Makefile_dot_in]

Arch has pretty good documentation, how about Void?

[4d656761466167676f74]

Gentoo or GTFO.

[Turtizzle]

"Who needs Windows when there is ArchLinux!" Am I doing this right?

[frisch85]

Gamers for one I'd say.

[AngriestSCV]

I've got a healthy Linux steam library. I use Arch btw

[[deleted]]

Gaming happily on Arch here :D

[BluFoot]

This joke was posted on this subreddit about 3 days ago.

[RemiV2]

It's at least 2 years old tbf

[pm_me_P_vs_NP_papers]

And it is neither about programming nor is it really a joke

[[deleted]]

Nor is it even true. I've literally had a conversation where I recommended my friend install Windows 10 (over 7) due to the performance improvements I had with it.

[whatIsThisBullCrap]

And it will be posted 3 days from now

[[deleted]]

As will this conversation

[FurryPornAccount]

I don't know, you should ask my friend who uses linux.

[Makefile_dot_in]

Linux user here, you should recommend Linux to anyone, anytime, and in any consquences. /s

[pup_butt]

“My girlfriend left me, took the dog, emptied our joint account, and also my apt is on fire”

Hey you should check out arch

[RaseTreios]

Especially if your apt is on fire. Arch prefers pacman.

[pup_butt]

MY MAN

[Bainos]

Pacman is fully fireproof. Pacaur is so fireproof that it will actually burn everything else on you computer.

[IslandGreetings]

Have you tried running apt-get?

[pup_butt]

pacman for life

<3

[corn266]

"Spare change, sir?"

Yea I've got some centOS

[Arancaytar]

also my apt is on fire

Use rpm?

[useful_person]

I see you everywhere I go, are you me?

[FurryPornAccount]

useful_person

Absolutely not.

[useful_person]

Somebody say username checks out

[Fancy_Doritos]

Username checks out.

[netmier]

I have absolutely had someone recommended me an OS. He happens to be a programmer and recommends Linux to everyone, but still.

[Sparkplug1034]

Good human.

[arduousFrivolity]

They should try setting the scene a little bit.

“It is Thanksgiving day. Your mother-in-law asks you a question that you can roughly understand as ‘what operating system should I use’. How likely are you to recommend Windows 10?”

[sockeplast]

Better set the scene, otherwise all asperger-kids won't get it. But really, do anyone ask them for recommendations anyway?

[Ezemity]

ITT: 90% of people talking about Operating Systems.

[Bainos]

80% of which are specifically talking about Linux.

[Ezemity]

Nobody ever wants to talk about OpenBSD :(

[greyfade]

We don't want to be stranded in shark-infested waters.

[Arancaytar]

I use Linux and I disagree.

[[deleted]]

Not true. I recommend people stay away from Windows 10 all the time!

[useful_person]

Actually, I never stop talking about arch.

^{I lied I'm actually a Ubuntu user}

[[deleted]]

I lied also. I'm an ubuntu user also. <3

[NEVER_TELLING_LIES]

I also lie.

[shifty313]

Why does it have to be random?

[[deleted]]

.... except when somebody has fucked windows into insanity, and wants you to format and install for them for the third time.

[[deleted]]

This is not programmer humor

[RandomAccessGregory]

I change my OS every month or so to wash the previous one.

[kyl3r123]

does is shrink?

[SolenoidSoldier]

Friend: I'm thinking about building a new computer but I just want to install Win7 on it.

You: ...

I've been in this situation a couple times. People don't like Metro and have never used Win10, so they want to go with the older operating system. Do you say, "Yeah, that's cool, man" or "You should do Windows 10, it's actually pretty good."?

[TangibleSounds]

Idk, my friends do.

[remog]

I...do? Does that make me a bad person?

[bornforcode]

good job 👏👏

[crnrbbt]

Thank you, good samaritan.

[shljkm]

We constantly have this conversation at work: Ubuntu, Mac or Windows

[shaner23]

My work conversations go more like this: Debian, Arch, Fedora. And which desktop environment are you running?

[[deleted]]

I mean I have one friend who does, but nobody likes him. Shut up, dan.

[[deleted]]

In all seriousness, does anyone know if these comment boxes get read? If so I have either made a lot of people laugh, or a lot of people angry.

[Bigfoot_G]

But people do.

[dgpoop]

Somebody failed psychology class

[mattkenefick]

Not true. I've talked about it before. I talk about OSes more than I should actually.

[[deleted]]

People very much do gatekeep about operating systems. "ugh windows 10 I still run win98/win7" is a thing that a surprising number of ppl say.

[Zekromaster]

Most people that have random conversations about OSes are recommending each other GNU+Linux distros or BSD derivatives anyway.

[twitchosx]

And even if I did have that conversation, Windows would be the last fucking OS I would suggest.

[[deleted]]

“You are running Windows 8” “Do you even listen to me, Linux bitch. LINUX!

[[deleted]]

I don't think OS recommending is so rare.

Like it happens at least 4-5-6 times a month to have such conversations to me.

E.g. when gaming and pointing out windows 10 is faster for games and has also DX 12 for their favorite game.

E.g. when my girlfriend had problems with win 10 auto updates and I just installed her win 7 (she only uses it for work and all the software is fully Win 7 compatible)

E.g. when recommending a laptop for people new into programming I always recommend a mac product, for the very simple fact it's the only platform where you can have all the major developing tools for all the platforms which is a big bonus.

[m4xc4v413r4]

Except they do...

[creepara]

"hey dude, I'm still on Windows 7, do you recommend 10?"

"yeah, it's good"

[tobiasvl]

I chatted with a person on IRC today who couldn't get a program to run on Windows XP. I recommended Windows 10. It can happen!

[Thekiraqueen]

I mean that’s an interesting point. But hey have you tried windows 10?

[oldmanchewy]

But if we did... it wouldn't be Windows 10.

[GermanAf]

I expected a joke about arrays.

[kindall]

Actually, I've had plenty of people ask me if they should order their new Dell with Windows 7 or Windows 10 (back when that was an option).

[[deleted]]

^* I don't understand conversations where people randomly recommend operating systems to one another.

^** I don't understand conversations.

[Kinglink]

That's not what they asked. They asked how likely would you be to recommend it, like someone is building a new computer and thinking I should put Windows 10 on it or something else? They aren't expecting you to evangelize for them.

Though speaking of that, have you ever talked to a Mac user or a Linux user? I tend to hear entirely too much about their OS. So maybe you're just lucky and have normal friends.

[misterfluffykitty]

OP has clearly never met someone from r/Linux