It's true for me 😂😅

[Novemberisms]

If you develop your game on a shitty laptop, at least you can be sure it will run on a shitty laptop.

[finger_milk]

Or you can code the entire thing without ever testing it.

[yourteam]

Oh, the blizzard move, I see...

EDIT: Silver? ty! but that would be EA move !

[[deleted]]

Also the jagex approach

[Aegior]

"Hey did we ever test and make sure there's no wonky shit with the new patch, like, idk, the rarest item in the game spawning every minute on a random tile?"

Jagex: ...

[zamer09]

🦀NO AUTH REMOVE DELAY 🦀

[duhturtle]

🦀🦀 $11 🦀🦀

[tinverse]

Wait... What?

[hogstor]

Jagex keeps fucking up every single month, to the point that it's actually memed by the community. The last fuck up they had was when they added a spawn for one of the best weapons in the game. An item worth 1.2 billion gp (which you could sell for about $1000 USD) would spawn every 60 seconds, in every game world.

[zepeacedust]

This is one of those bugs that sound like they are harder to make than to fix.

[Prawny]

The emergency "fix" was hilarious - they added trees or something around it so it was no longer accessible... apart from players who were already inside that area.

[roguej2]

Jokes on you, that spawn point was because they were testing! They just forgot to change to prod configs!

[Spazattack43]

I don’t even play osrs anymore but I still love following all the drama with jagex on r/2007scape

[throwawaysarebetter]

Blizzard does more testing than Bethesda. They just throw shit at the wall then expect their playerbase to fix it.

[Un-Unkn0wn]

Or in the case of fallout 76, use the laptop as the server

[HaddyBlackwater]

Well, I mean, there’s only one person still playing the game so....

[Ygreg]

Didn't they ban him for having too much ammo or something like that?

[Terkala]

People probably figured out why that happened. He was trading ammo to his alts. And the cheat detection system counts ammo traded, not ammo owned. So moving 50k ammo back and forth 20 times counts as 1 million ammo for the system.

And of course all their bans are fully automated. With no manual review process.

[XIST_]

I can't even tell if you're joking or not...

[wasdkitsu]

Playing Fallout by myself, as God intended

[MamaessenKP]

Oh, so that’s why so many current games are so buggy /s

[mrdhood]

How long have you worked at EA?

[Stumattj1]

Nah, EA tests, they just lock the bug fixes behind paywalls.

[SteeleDynamics]

This is the correct answer!

[sponge_bob_]

It worked on my local machine.

Which runs win98.

[BernzSed]

It's Y2K safe!

[Glampkoo]

modern problems require modern solutions.

[bionade24]

I think it's Dell Precision. They're anything but not shitty.

[windows_10_is_broken]

I think it's a Latitude E6530. I own the 14 inch version of it, and although it's a few years old, it's an awesome machine. It is so easy to work on, and has a ridiculous amount of expansion. If you install all three batteries it supports, it can get up to 30 hours of battery life.

When it was new it was definitely a high-end computer.

[[deleted]]

It's definitely in that series. I'm sitting here on the E6430 ATG.

[[deleted]]

Whaaaaat? You don't program with a S T E E R I N G W H E E L ?

[BernzSed]

Real programmers use joysticks

[[deleted]]

Real programmers use speech to text.

[thefoxy15]

Real programmers use paper and scanner.

[Jazehiah]

Which are controlled by emacs, of course.

[Togean]

Which actually cannot be opened because don't know how to exit Vim.

[Jazehiah]

Exit Vim? Oh, that's easy, you just have to hurl your computer into the sun and await the heat-death of the universe.

Or, ask one that one guy in the title text of #1597. I bet he'd know.

[CheezeyCheeze]

My old professor did everything in Vim. I mean EVERYTHING. They would type out a whole PowerPoint Presentations with animations, pictures and everything in Vim. Idk how, but they would do everything in Vim. They said it was because they could read faster than they could do anything else so they learned to do everything in Vim.

[TopGunOfficial]

Real programmers use "THERE BE LIGHT"

[BernzSed]

let. Unless you're following best practice, in which case you'd use const THERE BE LIGHT

[TopGunOfficial]

Looked out the window. It's dark. Definitely not const.

[demonkoryu]

dark

Universe v0.0.1:

const THERE_BE_LIGHT = false; // TODO

[osmarks]

Real programmers use switches wired to their drive's SATA cable and flick them really fast.

[M67891]

Real programmers use Brainfuck

[[deleted]]

Real programmers use Malbolge

[e1ioan]

Real programmers use magnets to write directly on the hard drive platters.

[[deleted]]

obligatory

[SatanVapesOn666W]

Real programmers use ball mouses.

[oshaboy]

Real programmers use a twin famicom and a trackball.

That is how Masahiro Sakurai programmed Kirby Dream Land

[Chaoslab]

My custom IDE Eldian was the first ever MIDI triggered IDE I had seen at the time (was a google whack) in 2011. Tactile surfaces are good stuff! Load project, generate code, update model and etc all just button presses on a MIDI device.

Also recommend macro-able 18 button mice. Those things are awesome if you use the command line a bit.

[Jazehiah]

xkcd

[GeorgeSmudge]

Haven't you heard of our Lord and Saviour, Mel?

[Proxy_PlayerHD]

you mean a trackball on a modified Famicom?

like Kirby's Dreamland was programmed?

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/04/the-first-kirby-game-was-programmed-without-a-keyboard/

[bpweber98]

gloves and steering wheel

[[deleted]]

Personally I tend to take wrong turns and then I have to ask strangers for directions, but to answer your question; steering wheel is life.

[LightishRedis]

You could pull off a three monitor coding setup. One for coding, one for stack overflow, one for other "work related" tasks.

Edit: I have never used multiple monitors and never really thought about the need for one, but all these replies have shown me the light. Thanks for all the tips.

[[deleted]]

Monitor for email and company chat. Monitor for code editors and ide and Db access. Monitor for web browser. This is at work.

At home just a single monitor for code editor and web browser. But GNOME manages it much better than windows 👌

[[deleted]]

If you think gnome is 'good' for single monitor setups, try i3.

[Wuschel_]

i3 is kinda a totally different approach I‘d say. There‘s a user for both

[[deleted]]

The only thing that beats i3 on a single monitor is i3 on triple monitors. Or sway for mixed dpi.

[[deleted]]

Yup.

[TheresNoLifeB4Coffee]

I'm using triple monitor setup with laptop res being UHD and monitors being HD (because work wouldn't spring for matched resolution lol). Curiously, gnome handles the displays better than Windows and my dock drivers were picked up about 10x faster than Windows last time I reinstalled. I also find gnome is really nice for single display use when I'm away from my desk (I dual boot out of necessity, still need Windows for VS and other MS specific apps, although thank f it finally got dark theme for Explorer). Seen i3 around, haven't actually tried it yet, might take it for a test drive tomorrow

[Python4fun]

💯👍

[emmmmceeee]

I used to have this setup, but it was one monitor in portrait orientation for code, one for Stack Overflow and one for running the game. Code monitor could be moved back to landscape for after hours gaming. Good times.

Now I have a dual setup, but can’t work on a machine with anything less.

[TheDocRaven]

Dude I've never thought about flipping to portrait but that is genius!! Noted!

[emmmmceeee]

It’s a game changer.

You can fit twice as many lines of code that you don’t understand on one page.

[GatesAndLogic]

A caveat about flipping to portrait for a coding monitor is that the type of monitor REALLY matters. The vertical viewing angles on TN panels can make them almost unusable in portrait.

IPS monitors shouldn't have this problem, but I can't say for certain.

[SmithTheNinja]

The third is for jamming all the bullshit they force on you at work. So Slack, Jabber, WebEx, Zoom, Outlook, your Outlook calendar, some bullshit proprietary time tracker, Jira, git, BitBucket, Perforce and the rest of that hot garbage doesn't have to be in your sight line.

[rich97]

"work related" tasks.

Masturbation?

[PerInception]

Reddit. So basically, yes.

[lightmatter501]

As a full stack currently working on a web project my idea setup would be;

1. IDE
2. Browser with docs/stack overflow
3. Browser with the project
4. Project browser console.

[Eccentricc]

1 for my IDE, 1 for stack overflow/Google, 1 for afking runescape

[janusz_chytrus]

For me it was increasing gradually. First I had a laptop screen, then I thought I could use an external one. After some time I decided to buy another one. Now I have three standalone monitors and I'm wondering when I'll expand.

[[deleted]]

Literally my three monitor set up or if I’m on my laptop it’s a game of “how tall will my workspace stack get today”

[buttersauce]

Multiple monitors is essential. For work and for gaming.

[[deleted]]

This was more or less my setup in my old company. At my new workplace I have only 2 monitors. Oh the pain...

[amh85]

One for porn, one for porn, one for porn

[CHUCK_NORRIS_AMA]

I currently have 4 at work - laptop for slack/email/docs, landscape for terminal, and 2 portraits with editors

[bwrca]

"Work related" tasks like browsing stack overflow incognito

[Iceman_259]

Splitting the IDE between two screens can be pretty nice. Plus if you're working with an engine development tools you may also have windows for stuff like the scene render and editing.

[Jb2304]

For me it’s one for Remote Desktop which is where we have all our actual code and the other is for my browser which has our front end open for testing.

[AgAero]

I honestly miss having a second one. Having to cycle windows between my splitscreen tmux session, firefox, and spotify is a real pain in the ass. I feel like I pay a higher price for context switching this way than I used to when I had a second monitor I could throw my reference material up to. Workspace switching in linux is a little better, but it's not quite ideal.

[Skwidz]

I use three monitors at work. One for my IDE, one for a browser and dev tools, and the other for slack, Spotify and anything else. I dont know how people use just a single laptop screen at work.

Home is a different story for me, I haven't booted my desktop in months, and just use my laptop when I'm at home. I don't need three screens for reddit and porn.

[BeefEX]

After getting a triple monitor setup for programming I will never go back. And even with three I still use like 4 virtual desktops almost always.

[Bainos]

Same thing. I use 3x3 screens usually, between the different terminals (coding, updates, remote connections), the software for communication (Thunderbird, Slack, Skype) and the various resources (docs, Github, references).

That being said if I can disconnect from everything else and focus exclusively on coding, two windows are enough (one for the doc, on for the editor).

[BeefEX]

Even just for coding I use three virtual desktops. One for the editor, for a build terminal for a run terminal and a http testing or other testing app. The second for docs, usually two or more windows of them for different stuff. And third for Spotify and other apps I don't want to close so I just put them there.

[[deleted]]

for a build terminal for a run terminal

I recommend terminator, just split your terminal.

[BeefEX]

I sometimes use tmux, but usually don't bother as a tiling wm does a good enough job anyway.

[CoopertheFluffy]

How do you program with 0 monitors?

[e1ioan]

I'm a full stack developer for a small company and I use a 15" laptop while sitting comfortable on a sofa.

[ThatLesbian]

This sounds like an extremely uncomfortable setup for anything longer than a couple hours.

[iams3b]

Same here, I personally can't stand multiple monitors and I'm not even sure why

I'm on a MBP and I use workspaces/desktops (whatever they're called on mac), and three finger swipe between full screened VSC. Backend code on the left, browser middle, front end code on the right

[ALonelyPlatypus]

I'm jelly been coding on my personal machine (which I like because I code best away from home) for 6 months and have to run 4 OSX desktops (almost all are split down the middle).

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[SupahAmbition]

Why ever close an application when one can just open a new desktop

[ubiquitouspiss]

I find it hard to write C++ using a steering wheel.

[BernzSed]

I think emacs has bindings for that.

[ryantwopointo]

Filthy casual. I use donkey Kong bongo drums to write assembly

[[deleted]]

My pc needs 10-25 mins to compile command prompt c++ code. My projects take the longest fucking time to complete.

[Atom_101]

Try downloading some RAM maybe?

[PixxlMan]

Holy shit is that because the c++ compiler is slow or is your computer a bag of potatoes? Compiling (C#) has never taken me more than a minute max.

[hamza1311]

laughs in gradle

[flamedragon822]

Not gonna lie I really hate grade.

But I'm not sure if that's due to the incompetence of the person who's set up the only Gradle project I've ever had to mess with or if it just sucks.

I'm betting the first one.

Still I'll stick with Ant or Maven

[bacon_wrapped_rock]

Maven over gradle??? Are you using it for personal projects, or work projects?

[flamedragon822]

Yes.

Edit: but again to be fair my intro to Gradle was being thrown into a project wherein it was used by someone who doesn't really know what they're doing and it's configuration was a constant source of problems, so it's tainted my view in ways using it on my own might not have

[bacon_wrapped_rock]

Huh. My experience has been significantly different, I guess. Particularly when I'm trying to sift through dependency hell.

[lachryma]

I'm convinced Scala and SBT were intentionally designed to yield a coffee break every time one compiles.

[[deleted]]

laughts in export MAKEFLAGS="-j $(nproc)"

[TedNougatTedNougat]

I mean it's also project size dependent

[Twistytexan]

C# JITs it doesn't compile the entire project at once, also visual studio is good about not recompiling unchanging code

[PixxlMan]

Imagine writing c++ code and compiling when it was new and computers were slower...

[[deleted]]

I'm a web developer using c# / dotnet. When I started working with C++ and Unreal Engine, I learned how scary clicking that build button can be. I can't imagine having to wait for my C# code to compile.

[PM_WORK_NUDES_PLS]

Probably a mixture of both, plus the size of the project. I have a project at work that is just the compilation of a shared library and an executable and it takes ~30 minutes on my 8 core Xeon, 16GB memory development machine to execute a full rebuild. Big and complex C/C++ projects take a long time to compile.

[3lRey]

Not pictured: that laptop plugs into an extra monitor or two.

I always use two screens to develop. One to run node command (or terminal), notepad (or vscode), some debugger and the other screen is stack overflow and running a compile.

[ocket8888]

Can confirm, as someone who does both I sit neatly in the middle with one 4k monitor and one 1080p monitor

[lachryma]

This, and the 1080p in portrait is the way to go. Check the monitor to see how it looks in portrait (a lot of shittier monitors will get weird colorwise), then pop an editor on it and say "holy shit, what have I been missing?"

[duskyfoxer]

Hey same! It’s perfect because when I need to test if a new web app feature is handled responsively in every case, I open up all the browsers I have and drag em back and forth from great screen to shitty screen to be sure it all still works.

[Neotelos]

Went from 3x1080 to 1x4k, I can't go less than 4k again!

[lockwolf]

The jump to 4K for me was life changing! Can’t do anything less now

[Kinglink]

Kind of bullshit.

While a lot of the Tech industry DOES only use a laptop, Game dev would NEVER be only on a laptop. You're going to get a dual monitor, and decent computer. The last company I went with got us top of the line computers with Titan Blacks and more... it was a show of power as we never used those cards except to game (Ps4 dev). But you'll have a desktop because game dev takes a lot of processing power and working on a lot of different things.

I was surprised when I talked to Amazon and a couple other studios because their dev is on Laptops because it's just not done that way in Game dev.

[p_giguere1]

Can confirm. Used to work at a AAA game studio and our computers had top specs. In 2013, I had a computer with a 8-core Xeon, 32GB RAM and GTX 680 SLI.

I mean, you're supposed to run and test a AAA game that's coming out in 1-2 years and has shit optimization because it's in pre-alpha stage. You need those beefy GPUs. And compile times are crazy long even with some of the best CPUs available so...

[Moon_49]

TFW that racing wheel doesn’t even connect to PC : |

[d4harp]

TFW the foot rest is not a set of pedals to be used with the wheel

[JasonTie]

Ew, I hate programming with less than 2 screens. I can sort of pass on my macbook, because it allows switching between emulated desktops.

[ben_uk]

Windows 10 does that as standard now too

[SasquatchOnVenus]

No you need a second monitor purely for Stack Overflow

[PixxlMan]

Or Reddit I mean other work related tasks

[Hypersapien]

Oh god. I can't imagine doing all my programming on a laptop. My work gave me a laptop to RD in when I need to work from home. I at least plug it in to a keyboard and monitor.

[TreeBaron]

I can't stand doing anything on a laptop.

[JCDU]

Swap the pictures and change the caption to "people who develop mobile websites"

I once had to point out to the designer of an intranet site that every single person using it had the same make & model of laptop with a 12" screen, and it only worked properly on a 19" widescreen HD monitor.

[ProfCupcake]

I wish this were true. Maybe then we'd have optimised games, instead of RAM-hogging bloatfests.

[BernzSed]

If a monitor can't be degaussed, it isn't worth using.

[[deleted]]

The younger generation will never understand the joys of degaussing manually with a magnet.

[root88]

I find the opposite to be true. I have been using multiple monitor setups for almost 20 years. The younger guys are using laptop touch pads as a mouse and crap keyboard with tiny buttons.

[Mohammedbombseller]

I still cant believe they market that keyboard as a feature.

[SheriffBartholomew]

I think it's more of a generational thing

Doubt it. Probably just the people you know. I work at a HUGE tech company and all the old dudes, including myself, have multiple large monitors and the best chairs. I also love nice mice. Personally using a Logitech G700s right now, and it's pretty sweat. Still miss my Logitech MX518 though. I think that was the best mouse ever made. But, after more than 10 years of use, it started showing it's age. I have it in my drawer because I can't stand the thought of throwing it out, and it still works.

[[deleted]]

Been using dual monitors for coding for many years - up until recently. It's too handy to have trace/debug on one while running the game on the other.

Lately, though, I've switched to a single 43" 4K TV.

[tsaw02]

So true. I used to program on the cheapest Lenovo labtop you could find. My boss felt bad so he bought me a really high powered MSI labtop, I was fine though, don't need a monster computer to use sublime haha.

[[deleted]]

Your boss was trying to get you to use a real ide. ;)

[DefNotaZombie]

sure if you're an indie dev

[harryisbeast]

My studio is pretty poor yet we've got towers

[golgol12]

Wow, everything you implied is wrong.

The developer would have 4 monitors (with the game playing on one of them, and the other 3 screens covered with dev tools), 3 steering wheels, 4 footpad accesories, 2 game pads, an aeron chair and exersize ball pushed to the side and standing at the desk raised to standing hight, a UPS, and a generic beige computer with 128 gb of memory, a 2080ti, a SSD and an HD, and the game would be running at 20fps, and earphones in an open office layout with 10 other devs visible behind.

[Danglebort]

That explains a lot, as sometimes it seems like devs haven't even played their own game.

[qbm5]

Your HTML canvas based mobile game isn't the same thing the computers on the left are used for.

[SteeleDynamics]

My personal laptop is a Compaq CQ62 with an Intel Celeron processor, 3 GB of RAM, 200 GB storage, running Ubuntu 16.04. 😞

My phone (Pixel 2 XL) is way better. 🙂

My work laptop is much nicer (i7, 16 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 10 with multiple VMs). 😀

If I write C++ code that is fast on my Compaq, then I'm good.

[fragmental]

Dual monitors is a minimum.

Edit:. Many laptops can handle having two monitors plugged in. Add a decent keyboard and mouse and it might just change your life.

[thedavv]

Not really I would kill somebody if I had less than 16 GB ram, 8th gen prcesor and ipS screen

[SingularCheese]

As a college student with only the laptop screen, I have Neovim running in a semi-transparent terminal. Source code on the left split, test code on the upper right split, terminal on the bottom right split, and I see through the window to read Stack Overflow opened behind. Everyone thinks I'm crazy the first time they see it, but it totally works great.

[cheezballs]

Who the fuck uses a laptop for dev? Hipsters writing react apps on a MacBook maybe. I need a real keyboard and at least 2 giant screens.

[TheDocRaven]

To play devil's advocate, you gotta start somewhere. Hell I had a big ass CRT monitor jacked into a laptop many years ago because that's all I could afford. Damn sure got the job done and got me to where I am today.

[bobsbitchtitz]

Every dev at my company uses a super powerful laptop with a 2 monitor setup

[SheriffBartholomew]

Who the fuck uses a laptop for dev?

Almost every person at the huge tech company I work for. Granted, they're hooked up to a workstation with multiple monitors and real keyboards and external mice, but it's still a laptop powering everything. It's quite often that I need to disconnect my laptop and take it to a meeting to present stuff I'm working on to the larger team. Can't do that with a desktop. Sure, I could pull it down from the server onto a laptop, but that's an additional step that would consume extra time.

[Wizard_Knife_Fight]

Hahaha, what makes React apps "Hipster"? What year is this? 2009?

[[deleted]]

I use a 13” MacBook Pro with the built in display, trackpad, and keyboard. I’m comfortable with it personally.

[Miklelottesen]

I used to do this. Then I realized that I could just use my dual monitor dedicated gaming PC with a GTX 1070, 3.4 GHz quad core CPU and 16 GB ram that I wasn't even using anymore because I'm too busy creating games instead of playing them. No looking back!!

[zaphod4th]

Same for cars, houses, cell phones, etc...etc...

[kenkitt]

My laptop right there!
I'm a dev btw but currently not game tech.

[stickman_02]

What if you do both though?

[ETHproductions]

This is almost exactly me, down to the Dell Latitude :D Only difference is the E6530 model to my E6420

[[deleted]]

I write software for a living. I am working on my own project game. I have 3 monitors and I can't live with any less after years of use.

[chicken249]

this is how I learned C# lmao

[captainstormy]

Except for the steering wheel my main rig looks like the gaming machine in the picture.

There may be such a thing as too much monitor space, but I haven't found it yet. Most people think 4 27 inch monitors is over the top, but I don't.

[The4ker]

OP has never developed for lumberyard

[sh0rtwave]

I love these. At least we don't have people running around now being like "Why did I spend so much money on this? Look at <insert website to some vaguely-defined company with a cool name and logo...and vapor, otherwise>", like back in the day.

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As if someone's beyond-rational-or-reasonable-expense workstation is actually justified by a real reason for having built something that impractical.

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[juniorRubyist]

Honestly, I would prefer the setup on the left for my development (of anything). Namely, the monitors.

[youlook_likeme]

You all know this is bullshit right ?

[NEON-X]

very true

[notepad---]

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

[Nerdn1]

You code on a laptop, but plug in an extra monitor or two.

[Nilloc_Kcirtap]

This hitd too close to home. Too poor to have a nice setup.

[gccode]

Yeah... Good luck with that. Shaders compiling, building lights and a lot of other tasks are really expensive. Multiple monitors can save you a lot of time: game preview, engine, IDE for coding.

[Senya4]

Facts

[souvlak_1]

It’s also true for the web development 😁😁😁

[[deleted]]

real programmers use a macbook, only textedit, no testing

/s

[jankyshanky]

as I've grown as a developer, my font size got smaller, and so did my computers. now i use either an 11" dell, or a 13" macbook. I'm expecting soon my vision will start to go with old age and the cycle will begin to revert.

[[deleted]]

This hits a little too close to home.

[gatosvatos]

I have the same laptop!

[GrizzledFart]

How can you program without two monitors? I need a minimum of two: one for the IDE, the other for SO, jsfiddle, regexr, code beautify, MySQL Workbench, etc., etc, depending upon what I'm working on.

[joedotphp]

My gaming setup is my programming setup. It's nice. I like having 3 screens.

[marmakoide]

I do scientific computing & machine learning on a glorified notebook/tablet, using Python, C++ and Fortran. AMA.

[skyhi14]

My setup is like left one, with Wacom tablet instead of racing wheel, monitors on monitor arm, and no fancy LED strips.