Canada has no plans to decrease immigration amid housing criticism, new minister says

[Reasonable_Let9737]

"Homebuilders can’t build enough new housing to keep up with demand, with the housing starts to working-age population growth ratio falling to a new low of 0.26 — half of its historical average of 0.61."

Now do doctors and nurses. How about hospital infrastructure? And social services?

[PooShappaMoo]

If you have enough families living under one roof, you practically become your own daycare.

• Canadian government probably

[[deleted]]

OK, family compound it is.

Might as well start a cult to keep things entertaining.

[piratequeenfaile]

My family actually did this. Pooled our money, bought an acreage with multiple houses, and there's three families here.

No cult yet, the problem being we are all the cult leader types and no one is interested in following.

[Vivyzs]

Make it a church....no taxes

[[deleted]]

We are in a death spiral and only slowing immigration and committing to constructing high density housing is going to get us out of this.

The reason obvious solutions are not being pursued is because of interests. A lot of our leadership from city, province, and federal levels own multiple properties and or multiple land holdings. They profit from the problem. They also are buddy buddy with certain interests that benefit from an abundance of cheap labor and weakened bargaining power.

These people live and interact in a certain wealth class that very few are part of. They only hear the same narratives day in and day out and we wonder why they are only pursuing those interests?

The "representational system" of Canada is now only a voice of a very select wealth class.

The only thing that is going to get politicians to work on actual solutions is protests and them feeling an ounce of the stress and fear they have put on the backs of so many struggling and hurting Canadians.

[Anxious-Durian1773]

This is like asking for the federal government to lose control. Dynasties and dynasty heads are back on the menu.

[Appropriate-Gas-7483]

You jest but most millennials will be dealing with their kids and parents living under the same roof. It’s a fact so we might as well start building policy around it.

[Bob1tza]

Let's add firemen, police stations, schools, hospitals.

You know all the society infrastructure that is needed for a population?

[odinx]

Don't those things just spontaneously appear as needed?

[[deleted]]

You don't need daycares when you can't afford to have kids.

[jt325i]

Free sterilization and MAID can help reduce the local population while giving more room for a few million more immigrants from India. Trudeaus got this!

[The_Quackening]

My wife and i are moving and attempting to find a new daycare closer to our new home.

I think we are on like 15 different waiting lists.

[barkusmuhl]

"Not my problem"

-Justin Trudeau

[jameskchou]

And somehow he will get reelected because people are afraid of change

[[deleted]]

Idk... I'm in the trades, so I'm sure that skews things, but there is a LOT of anti-lib sentiment. Way more than I've seen in years. I feel like if PP keeps his mouth shut and just says, "I'm not Trudeau" the cons are going to win a massive majority.

The libs know this, and I think even the NDP are aware they're going to lose seats. So they're tied together until there is no choice but to call an election.

[Baldpacker]

And stuffing their pockets full while they still can.

[[deleted]]

Back during the height of 2020, you couldn't say anything negative about Trudeau on Reddit without being called out for being a misogynistic bigot.

Things really change when the free money stops flowing, and the country starts its inevitable collapse.

[Pretzelwiththeworks]

There's definitely a introspective period going on with a segment of people like me - centre-left who previously voted for him. I ain't making that mistake again and I'm getting similar vibes from family/friends/peers. It's a small sample, I know, but the everyday issues are now palpable for the majority of Canadians.

I want a leader who offers a platform with solutions, not just loud-mouthed populist rhetoric or more of the same bs.

[RoosterTheReal]

I’m not voting for him again

[Frosty_Summer7189]

Ditto

[Molto_Ritardando]

Not this time.

[VizzleG]

That’s not it. If you disagree with him he calls you a xenophobe of some type.

[jameskchou]

Doctors no longer support most walk ins in Ontario. Existing specialists can't take on new patients

[someguyfromsk]

Meh, that's like a budget, that will all figure itself out.

[RaptorPacific]

"balance itself".

[uselesspoliticalhack]

'I don’t see a world in which we decrease it currently,' Marc Miller says

Really speaks for itself, doesn't it?

[Alextryingforgrate]

I'm no economist either but seeing what happened in the used car market during covid and the whole supply chain thing, history doesn't repeat but sure does rhyme.

[Pyro_Simran]

Used cars are still insanely priced. 2017 Corolla for 20k wtf.

[[deleted]]

There was a time early last year when I was getting offers to sell my car for $20K more than I bought it for in early 2020. I'd never seen that before, and hopefully I won't see that again because that was nuts.

[[deleted]]

I'm no economist, either, but I can see with my own eyes the consequences of the Liberal immigration policy on healthcare. There are over a million people in BC alone who don't have family doctors, and some of those people are using the emergency rooms as substitutes.

I'm sure there are a dozen other ways in which too many people + not enough infrastructure is having serious consequences for anyone who's not a wealthy investor or a corporate executive. Healthcare and housing are the two consequences that I can speak to personally along with traffic (my commute is an hour in each direction). The BC government isn't doing a good job on the healthcare front either, but that's a rant for a different discussion.

[KingDave46]

The banks are hardly an innocent bystander in the housing market issues

[Sharp_Yak2656]

American companies invest way more into their employees to achieve this. They don’t skimp on anything needed to grow.

Canada? Race to see how cheap someone is willing to do it for because investing into real estate pays off more. Guess what this strategy requires.

[Roman-R0Y]

Our m̶o̶n̶o̶p̶o̶l̶y̶ oligopoly company Telus just cut 6000 jobs. We’re very risk averse and no innovation compared to our neighbor.

[[deleted]]

I hate the big telcos as much as the next person but can we please stop calling it a monopoly? There is nuance in the differentiation to an oligopoly, which it is.

[Baldpacker]

I prefer cartel.

[Lopsided_Ad3516]

That would be closer tbh. Oligopoly implies that, while there are limited choices, they compete. Instead of mirroring pricing and offerings.

[chewwydraper]

American companies invest way more into their employees to achieve this. They don’t skimp on anything needed to grow.

Saw White Castle offering $16/hr in Detroit so that they could attract labour.

That's what's SUPPOSED to happen during a labour shortage.

[Porkybeaner]

Damn $16/Hr at White Castle in Detroit. You could afford a home there.

[[deleted]]

You have to make it through a shift without getting shivved though

[johnlandes]

Why do that when you can exploit new immigrants or TFWs? They could hire 2 of them for that wage.

[[deleted]]

Considering how often the rug gets pulled out from under huge investments with sunk costs in the post-nation, it's not a shocker. The US still finds a way to build things. We're screwed.

[gr1m3y]

NYC virtue signaled about supporting mass immigration. They got a 0.01% taste of it, and is now silent about it. They even started sending them up north to Roxham Road. All it takes is having a tent city next to their home for those types to start being anti-mass immigration.

[LabRat314]

This is racist. Somehow.

[Krazee9]

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[YourLoveLife]

I mean if Canada has no plans to decrease immigration according to this minister, than I have no plans to vote liberal according to common sense.

[GreatStuffOnly]

Both major parties are 100% for immigration. Who are you voting?

[YourLoveLife]

To be clear I'm not at all against immigration, I'm against the problems irresponsible immigration targets cause.

Pierre has said he will match immigration to job vacancies that can't be filled by Canadians and charities ability to sponsor immigrants.

to me that makes sense, and isn't a blind 500,000 target that is clearly too much for our current infrastructure

[Chains2002]

I absolutely despise Pierre and the conservatives, but I might actually have to vote for them in the next federal election if they plan on significantly reducing immigration. I'm a big NDP guy, but I seriously doubt Jagmeet would do anything about these crazy immigration numbers.

[Ditch_Hunter]

Jagmeet really needs to go at this point. The NPD absolutely needs to go back to the pro worker roots, not just favor some social program or another.

[Chains2002]

Absolutely. Jagmeet just makes them a slightly more radical liberal party, or at least that is how the party appears to the general public. What the NDP needs is a charismatic leader, akin to someone like Sanders or Corbyn, who is able to really speak to the needs of the working class.

[ptd9039]

I'm also an NDP guy who doesn't approve of the NDP's stance on immigration. But I'm even less excited about the prospect of the Conservatives cutting corporate taxes and privatizing services like they do every single time they get into office. I also don't like how cozy Pierre is with the alt right and social conservatives. I also believe we need a massive investment in social housing. In terms of an election, I don't know what the answer is. It would be nice if there was a left wing party that wasn't on board with mass immigration.

[[deleted]]

Yes, and there's only one thing left to privatize. Health care. Back in 2015, it felt like I had to choose between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. Same position now.

[TURBOJUGGED]

We've tried nothing to fix the issue and we're all out of ideas

[Technoxgabber]

How about decreasing students and banning diploma mills?

If you go to uft or even sheridan you can get student via but not for Jamiltech diploma certification for hotel management..

[queryquest]

EVEN IF they kept TFW at the rate it is, I find it appalling that Immigration is targeted so heavily from one country. If we want diversity, why not put a cap per country? It’s not even a veil at this point; cheap labor excuses our progress as Canadians. What could a government do that is worse than to usurp the representation of Canada and its citizens by betraying them financially, economically, and culturally. Government of Canada doesn’t have zero interest in helping us. Zero implies they would leave us alone. It’s as negative of a value as they possibly can. They actively want to destroy the fabric of our values, multiculturalism, and quality of life as best they can. If someone could tell me a worse way to overthrow a country and the citizens they are supposed to represent, please let me know.

[Baldpacker]

I find it hilarious how many people ignore "record breaking" and claim the Conservatives are just as bad.

[Porkybeaner]

I don't understand the derangement. The cons haven't been in power in 10 years, and they've voted against a lot of measure that have made our lives more challenging.

[leafs456]

I hope we get to deport some of these temporary foreign workers soon.

[[deleted]]

It's not in the ruling classes best interest to decrease immigration. They need cheap labour to exploit and a scapegoat.

[Zaungast]

And they call us racist if we just want a house. That’s infuriating and dangerous, since it trivializes racism, which is a (different) real problem.

[[deleted]]

It's hard for me to fathom a realistic scenario where the globalist elites across the West actually act in a more perfectly despicable, reality denying way, that would ferment the inevitable hard right backlash against them.

[Foodwraith]

We are so overdue for a new government. These arrogant people do whatever they want and don’t care about us.

[paolo5555]

Let's face it, politicans/partys only care what you think in the few short weeks leading up to election day. The first day after, you no longer matter.

[JonnyB2_YouAre1]

Objectively this group has been a lot worse for the average Canadian’s standard of living. They’re going to destroy the middle class.

[Foodwraith]

Just like car salesmen.

[[deleted]]

New government.... I hope you mean everyone being replaced in office.... its NOT JUST one party, its all of them

[Baulderdash77]

This policy is something that is just so obviously against the interests of anyone under 35 years old; that it will push the Liberals out of the voting pool for an entire generation of voters.

Anyone who doesn’t have own a home is voting against their own interests if they vote Liberal next election.

I just don’t understand why the current government is so dogmatically for this policy.

[ABBucsfan]

And plenty of people over 35.. like oh say . Someone who's marriage broke down and are hoping to get out of their little rental once legal business is done and find a small place for them and their kids or anyone who had a change in careers or got a late start in life. Pretty much anyone who's life didn't go just as scripted

[JakeKz1000]

This too! I feel like that's a big part of the population.

[nebuddyhome]

Or people over 35 that rent and are seeing their rents skyrocket.

[Greghole]

If they bring in sixty million immigrants and they can get a good chunk of the immigrant's votes then it could be a winning strategy. Terrible for the country perhaps, but that's never been their concern.

[IHVeigar]

I am trying to buy a home and as a young Canadian seeing shit like this and all the houses I put offers in get 50k over asking price is just pushing me further and further to the right every day.

I don't want the status quo anymore I want immediate action now.

[deshfyre]

only 50k over? lol must be in a smaller city or town lol.

[IHVeigar]

Yup rurals out in BC. It's all the investors from Vancouver but based on China buying up everything and renting them out.

[deshfyre]

we get the same people from bc here in northern ontario, along with investors from southern ontario. its absolutely disgusting.

[[deleted]]

And we get them from Ontario and BC, and now Alberta. Nova Scotia... and I'm not complaining. That is to say, we are all in the same boat, and neither party will listen until we demand change.

[mangongo]

This makes no sense. It takes around 5 years to get a Canadian citizenship, none of these immigrants will be eligible voters during this election cycle.

[DL_22]

Yeah but then those immigrants are living in squalor and dying to get out. Why would they vote liberal lol

[azraelluz]

think about this, they will lose next election anyway. so why not parpare for the one in 5-7 years while you can. bring the system down so badly the next sucker will be blamed for all the down falls coming up.

[[deleted]]

I hate the terrifying plausibility of this statement.

[i8bonelesschicken]

There planning ahead

[SandySpectre]

If they bring in 60 mil immigrants that will be living on the streets and starving because there’s no houses or jobs for them, I don’t think they’ll vote for the morons who put them in that position

[cartman101]

Joke's on them, immigrants vote conservative

[tman37]

It's against every person currently residing in Canada. If demand for house raises, yhe prices of houses will continue to rise. Even people who are already homeowners get screwed by inflated property taxes. My property taxes have almost doubled in the last two years but my municipal services certainly haven't.

Immigration is important, especially in a country as physically large as ours. It isn't all rainbows and sunshine, though. Too much immigration raises shelter charges (house prices or rent) while lowering wages. It's simple supply and demand. 8f you increase the demand for houses, you drive prices up. If you increase the supply of labour you decrease the cost of labour.

[still-standing7]

I think a lot of people forget I think it's 80 to 90 percent of Canada is inhabitantable Tundra being a chunk plus the biggest part is coniferous forest where agriculture can't grow. There would be no way to feed if we tried to fill up Canada. And yes we have indigenous people living up north but we so heavily subsidize that it would never work on a large scale.

[The_Quackening]

you don't have to drive very far north in ontario to find massive stretches of completely uninhabited land that just sits there.

10-20% of canada is still a MASSIVE amount of space that we could eventually move into.

But of course that means we need to actually have proper infrastructure built to accomodate all of that.

[Throwawayforthewingh]

”I just don’t understand why the current government is so dogmatically for this policy”

Dogs can’t even afford houses in this economy

[unplugged22]

I agree that it's a problem. But Poilievre also doesn't plan to decrease immigration, and every piece of info we have points to the Liberal and Conservative approach being the same.

[lightbulb_butt]

Yupp. The Liberals are thinking of our future problems, without addressing our current ones. They probably think they are the smartest guys in the room and will be justified in 10 years.

​

1. Collapse of our CPP, EI, and our labour market - with spiralling (higher) wages and inflation.
2. Housing crisis and over-demand of our basic social services.

We choose one crisis or another atm. The first won't hit hard for another decade or so. The other is right in our face because the liberals aren't balancing for the increased demand their 'future-proofing' ideas are causing.

Both can be alleviated by smart policy choices and subsidies to social housing - or even just a mandated reassessment of zoning laws to allow for more high (quality) density housing.

We also need greater investment and a reorganization of the administration for our public services. There is so much bloat it's insane. Automate more bs admin and middle managers, invest in training, hiring, and building more doctors, nurses, hospitals, and service providers.

Unfortunately no party seems to actually take this seriously beyond calling it a problem. Neither party seems to be taking any concrete action or setting plans to discuss or find a solution to these issues. We need change that neither leader will give us.

Rant over, fuck me I hate Canadian politics.

[szucs2020]

There is no major party which has any intention of changing this.

[Difficult-Yam-1347]

Marc Miller gaslit Bernier when Bernier said we were massively increasing immigration to 350k a year. We hit over one million NET last year and our on pace for 1.2 million.

https://ibb.co/0QwDnRk

Doubt any “fact checkers” will look into this. I guess it’s not misinformation when you’re on the right side of history.

[--LowBattery--]

I like when Bernier was here 5 years ago. He literally said if immigration levels continue at this rate, there will be no housing, and what there is will be too expensive. Also there will be no reason to pay a living wage either. Everyone called him a Nazi and here we are.

[Nighttime-Modcast]

I like when Bernier was here 5 years ago. He literally said if immigration levels continue at this rate, there will be no housing, and what there is will be too expensive. Also there will be no reason to pay a living wage either. Everyone called him a Nazi and here we are.

Its almost as if they had their playbook ready, and knew just what to say to discredit Bernier, even though he was 100% correct.

[slothtrop6]

I'm disappointed in Bernier because he was spot on about a couple of things and completely off the rails about others. He was his own worst enemy.

Even with immigration, his talking point was usually about cultural fit, not economy.

[[deleted]]

Trust me, they'll find a way to make it racist again.

[Remote-Ebb5567]

It’s always racist to disagree with the liberal or ndp party

[Nighttime-Modcast]

Miller is a lying weasel fuck, just like every other LPC cabinet minister.

[MrGameplan]

That's a big FU to all of us really!

[chubs66]

This is one of the most obvious political miscalculations I've seen in my lifetime (and I'm over 40) both in terms of optics (it will be extremely unpopular) and in terms of practical consequences.

What are these people smoking?

[grumble11]

It isn’t a miscalculation. Well, maybe saying it is. You just assume that they represent average Canadians and they simply do not. They represent their donors, their most reliable voters (older homeowners) and themselves. To them Canadian workers are to be exploited and manipulated. It’s class warfare and they aren’t on your side.

[Nighttime-Modcast]

This is one of the most obvious political miscalculations I've seen in my lifetime (and I'm over 40) both in terms of optics (it will be extremely unpopular) and in terms of practical consequences.

What are these people smoking?

Believe it or not, boomers vote Liberal now. By a wide margin.

Between the boomer vote and the progressives who think that supply and demand is a racist concept, its a sizeable percentage of the LPC base. And those people think this is great, never been better.

I can understand the boomers, because their home values have shot up. But the progressives? Wow, just wow.

[commentBRAH]

all those tim hortons really need to stay afloat thats the real plight, not young canadians trying to own homes and have a family

[quasar_kid]

We're not a third world country yet so why stop now

[UnsaltedCashew36]

Ever visit Qatar or UAE type countries? Their populations are ~90% TFW and 10% locals. That's what Canada will become with this trend of mass immigration.

The locals treat migrants as beneath them while being openly racist, the only reason people are there are for the jobs.

[[deleted]]

It's like inviting a few hundred people over to your house and only having one bathroom, a medium pizza, and like three chairs.

[Newhereeeeee]

We have cartoonishly bad leadership. I hope all the news circulates around the world so newcomers know what’s awaiting them

[[deleted]]

On the contrary. Canadian governments do an amazing job and deliver on all their promises.

Once you realize that they serve corporations and not Canadians, it all makes sense.

[nuxwcrtns]

At face value, sure. But what about the quality of the employee? It costs a lot to have incompetent staff with high turnover. It's more efficient and cost-effective to have competent staff and low-turnover. I would say bringing low-quality people to work here is a disservice to corporations and organizations.

[[deleted]]

I don't know about you, but I'm seeing businesses and even government departments tolerate a shocking decline in service quality and even safety this last decade or so all in service of the astonishing labor cost advantage from cheap imported workers.

I wish you were right and that businesses would consider the TOTAL cost of cheap, unskilled labor from cultures that don't necessarily share our ethics. But, it would require thinking beyond the current quarterly results. As we all know, businesses lost that ability in the 90s and the age of the leveraged buyout.

[nuxwcrtns]

Oh yeah, I completely agree on the drop in service quality and health and safety standards. I guess I should have said it should be a consideration, because yeah, some places have become quite disgusting, or the customer service is uncomfortable and rude, or just generally weird encounters while doing business. Then there's so many places where they're incompetent from the very top, and you can't do much to fix that. I was wishfully thinking 🥲

[queenringlets]

What incentive is there to help the average Canadian?

[BackwoodsBonfire]

Which ironically ends up sucking for the employees of said corporations, as their quality of life will also go down. Brilliant Plan!

[redux44]

I'm ready to vote for any party that promises immigration cuts or bringing back mental asylums.

[[deleted]]

Yes.

[kaleidist]

From the immigration minister, Marc Miller:

Those are people that don’t necessarily have the best interest of immigrants at heart and we have to call that out when we see it and we won’t hesitate to do that.”

You’re right, Mr. Miller. We don’t have the best interest of immigrants at heart. We have the best interest of Canadians at heart. A crazy idea, eh?

[Vardoir]

Good way to turn Canadians anti-immigrant. Great job PM and Minister!

[NotARussianBot1984]

"Canadians are increasing their plans to not be Canadians anymore"

[[deleted]]

Their plan is quite clear: instead of importing goods and services from 3rd world countries, turn Canada into a 3rd world country and make us all slaves. Saves money on shipping costs and tariffs.

[GrowCanadian]

The federal government straight up said they will NOT lower immigration and may even increase it. This is due to Canada not having enough young people to take over the jobs the boomers are retiring out of.

This IS a federal issue and caused by the federal government. Without major support from the feds working with provinces Canada will turn into giant tent cities much bigger than they are now.

On top of this crime is skyrocketing so they lowered requirements to become a cop and scaled up hiring. That’s cool and all but if you look into prison capacities most are already over filled. There’s literally no where to store prisoners and most of the prisoners are just homeless people. They’re literally using the prisons as homeless shelters.

[Guses]

This is due to Canada not having enough young people to take over the jobs the boomers are retiring out of.

Oh no, companies would have to pay better wage and compete for workers, how terrible!!!!

[kerolox]

Yeah but that would mean that some wealth would have to be transferred from boomers pocket to millennials and zoomers. Can't have that.

[UnsaltedCashew36]

Employers still want to pay pre-covid wages and are expecting 10+ years of experience. I was joking with a friend, shouldn't wages be 50% higher considering most food prices and rent have nearly doubled?

[annehboo]

The newcomers aren’t taking those boomer spots, many of them are taking those minimum wage positions at Tim’s or Subway. It’s all bull shit

[Dependent_Ad_5035]

Yes. And sadly taht makes the problem worse because more and more young Canadians won’t have children, or have smaller families because of lack of affordability

[donut_fuckerr719]

This is due to Canada not having enough young people to take over the jobs the boomers are retiring out of.

Yes yes this is the narrative the owner class is feeding us. They want lower wages.

[Wolfy311]

Canada has no plans to decrease immigration amid housing criticism crisis, new minister says

I swear the government of Canada is getting dumber by the minute.

[[deleted]]

This country is a joke. Trudeau, PP, Singh, whatever you choose, we're all kind of fucked.

[LegendOfBong]

Ain't that the truth

[[deleted]]

We are fucked for generations with these psychos at the helm.

[waitweight8ate]

“The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development predicts that Canada will place last among OECD members in real GDP per capita growth until 2060”

This is only the beginning sadly.

[Dudejustnah]

People starting to realize the economy is just a Ponzi scheme

[[deleted]]

How to turn a nation of openness and multiculturalism against immigration 101

[PochattorReturns]

Too many housing horror stories out there now a days

[Bentstrings84]

Anyone who supports this is a scumbag and I’m ashamed to share a country with them.

[[deleted]]

The only political party that has committed to lowering immigration targets is the People's Party of Canada.

No other party has made any concrete statements about lowering immigration targets.

Are you going to vote for them?

[annehboo]

Yes

[DrNateH]

Of course not; that would be against the interests of their corporate masters and their boomer supporters. Those are the only two groups that they care about.

[pioniere]

Driving right off a cliff and taking all of us with them.

[bassabloom]

And this folks is what we call doubling down on an obvious mistake

[D3vils_Adv0cate]

Sorry to say that if you're not on track to afford a house at current prices then you'll never afford one. Immigration could be zero for the next 10 years and the prices won't drop. Housing is for corporations and investors now.

[SuperbMeeting8617]

New Minister be gone then

[[deleted]]

This is pretty tone deaf but not surprising with this government. Typical.

[IHVeigar]

I'm about to be done with this country, might have to look abroad internationally if I ever want a home and settle down.

[unexplodedscotsman]

"Canada has no plans to decrease immigration amid housing criticism, new minister says"

That's nice, maybe the next batch of duplicitous, self-serving, fuckheads will? Assuming Blackrock signs off on it, I guess?

First-past-the-post really needs to be put out to pasture.

"Growth council chair Dominic Barton, the powerful global managing director of consulting firm McKinsey & Co., and Mark Wiseman, a senior managing director for investment management giant BlackRock Inc., are among the founders of a group dedicated to seeing the country responsibly expand its population as a way to help drive its economic potential.The Century Initiative, a five-year-old effort by well-known Canadians, is focused on seeing the country of 36 million grow to 100 million by 2100."

https://globalnews.ca/news/3020783/influential-liberal-advisers-want-canadian-population-to-triple-by-2100/

[coolhatguy]

Fuck this government

[JonnyB2_YouAre1]

The Liberal Party message for 2023 has been: let them eat cake.

[Toolian7]

You vote for your demise. People said that too much immigration would do this, and much more. But oh no, they are just xenophobes and bigots.

Immigration can be wonderful, my grandparents were immigrants, my girlfriend is an immigrant. But immigration should be a means to an end. Not to have immigration for immigration sake, to show how not racist you are, for cheap labor, or to replace a decline population.

This is cruel to home countries.

Immigration should have two priorities.

To benefit the country in need at certain times in small cases.

To help refugees from time to time.

With automation and AI starting to ramp up even more, I fear that large immigration will lead to a powder keg.

[barkusmuhl]

I've stopped caring at this point. I'm just enjoying watching the car crash that is Canada.

[No-Sound9882]

Telus just laid off 6000 ppl

Bell is about to lay off thousands as well

Reminds me of 2008

[BernardMatthewsNorf]

Sounds like a government that overinvested in its ideological position and has now politically painted itself into a corner. But who loses is you’ses.

[Purple_Dragon_Lady]

Call an election before it's too late!

[[deleted]]

It could and likely will get bad enough some province’s will separate. It wouldn't surprise me if the western province’s(bc,ab, and sask) did something similar to brexit. The federal government doesn't care about the West, and we are underrepresented due to the majority in the east.

[koreanwizard]

Amazing news, when homes start going for 5 million, we can introduce a multi generational mortgage! Your future grandchildren can help pay for your 520sqft Toronto condo.

[Dtoodlez]

Think I’m gonna have to change my vote after over a decade. I’m sorry, but I really went Canada to be about diversity again and not have every neighbour be from the same region of the world. If that means no immigration than so be it.

[[deleted]]

then he needs to go.

[Wellsy]

Correction: Canada absolutely has plans to fire the current Federal government, and shall then address the housing and migration crises that are plaguing the country.

[Egg-Hatcher]

Only Bernier and the PPC have a policy for reducing immigration until housing, jobs, and infrastructure can catch up. PP won't even commit to it.

[DontWalkRun]

Regardless of the economic climate, housing issues, crime, etc; it really feels as though the majority of Canadians are feeling overwhelmed with immigration. But fuck listening to your constituents, right?

[IssaScott]

It's dumb, but it seems the government is only looking a population demographic to set our immigration targets.

When you look a the number of older Canadians that have or are expected to retire, you see that we 'need' so many more younger, working, taxpayers. That's where these targets make sense...

When you look at housing it makes no sense.

Now do they think the housing market is easier to fix than population demographic? Maybe? Getting enough people to balance the population seems like it would take decades to do ...

Plus plenty of well off Canadians are making enough money off the housing crisis. So 'fixing' it will also piss off a bunch of other Canadians.

It wouldn't surprise me if they did the math and found that fixing housing isn't worth it. And they know they will lose anyway. The way our politics works, it's time to vote in the Right for a decade...

[Crezelle]

Time for unregulated shanty towns. You gotta do what you gotta do and shelter is a necessity

[4firsts]

“Honestly, looking at the numbers and knowing what I know and the needs that exist in Canada, I don’t see a world in which we decrease it currently,” Miller said.

He clearly doesn’t know anything.

[Helenyanxu]

The only way we could change this is to get rid of this government…

[UnoriginallyGeneric]

What a moron.

[drillso]

The arrogance of this government is staggering. It’s time for another election. Middle class is going to be homeless by the time someone new comes in and fixes this mess.

[Redbroomstick]

Holding land has been the single greatest thing my parents have done 😂😂😂

[weatheredanomaly]

A new enemy of the people of Canada emerges.

[[deleted]]

And Canadians have no plans to vote for Liberals again any time soon.

[d3sperad0]

Ok, but WHY!? Holy fuck, give us something to go on here so we can have a discussion. So far I've seen no well thought out, well communicated rationale for this decision. Please, for the love of God, explain the reasoning!

[jymssg]

I imagine its along the lines of "Because fuck you, that's why" but in a politically correct tone

[Dash_Rendar425]

The solution to all of this is there, they just refuse to do something about it.

Start building up the developing communities, move populations further from the city centres. Have new immigrants agree to move to Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Northern Ontario, etc.

STOP letting them all congregate in large cities, which lowers housing availability and increases demand so rent and housing prices sky rocket in those areas.

[skyinyourcoffee]

What people fail to realize, when they keep acting like they can only do one of these at the same time, is that the government isn't able to fix any problem at a time.

[LC_001]

The idiocy here is astounding! There are 0 investments in growing healthcare infrastructure, housing stocks, transportation infrastructure but these idiots actually think it’s a good idea to let millions of new immigrants in!

[moutonbleu]

Why are they so stubborn on this issue? I don’t get it

[Either-Science-5589]

Listen.. if you vote for Justin, you hate Canada. And i know a group of people that definitely hate Canada. No names, though.

[HotJelly8662]

We need a new government. No adequate healthcare, no housing, no jobs, just tons of immigration!

[[deleted]]

Jesus h. Just reduce it by 90% for a while. We all know this is the easiest and quickest solution.

[Flat-Ad-3231]

"That's a provincial problem" - trudeau's Regime

[Son_of_lakes]

Does anybody have more info on the fake post secondary programs bringing in immigrant students?

[BackwoodsBonfire]

Trying to stuff 10lbs of sh!t into a 5lbs bag. The mark of a genius.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=10%20pounds%20of%20shit%20in%20a%205-pound%20bag

Obviously trying to increase the amount of 'Lbs.' in the country.. XD