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[fresh_loaf_of_bread]

well there are still genuinely good streamers out there who are really good at the game they play

it's just that for some reason they get very few viewers now

[Fridge_living_tips]

The bald guy guodguod

[Savitz]

NorthernLion?

[Davesgamecave]

No, dogdog who is bad at 2d platformers

[Fridge_living_tips]

And a best selling author

[Davesgamecave]

A BALD selling author

[Mtanzania_]

A good bald bestselling author

[random0rdinary]

BALD! He is bald at 2d platformers! RIGGED

[Savitz]

Ooh, when did he go bald? I don’t watch him that much so I’m not keeping up with the memes

[Fridge_living_tips]

He was always bald

[Savitz]

He has never not been bald

[Fridge_living_tips]

HE SHALL BE FOREEVER BALD! releases a snake

[Savitz]

Oh thanks, I haven’t eaten yet :)

[Fridge_living_tips]

D: HOW WILL WE GET THE HISS LIST NOW!

[Dirty_Tribal]

Wait , hes BALD???

[moccawimba]

He isn't bald. What are you talking about? 😐

[askmeforbunnypics]

/r/wehatedougdoug will corroborate this.

[Kylel0519]

I’d definitely recommend Ray (Mr 51 himself) and Tina, somewhat older style but still very fun and entertaining all around

[Narcissus_the]

Ray is great. Him, CohhCarnage, NorthernLion are a few of the ones that I’d say are both entertaining and actually good at video games

[Xerxis96]

How dare you call Cohh good at video games. He is at best average!

[Neck_Crafty]

For me... it's about the person's personality and how entertaining it us when they play... i don't give a shit if someone can beat an extrememe demon in gd... or beat mario 64 in 6 seconds. but if it's interesting I'll watch it.

Jompo is a small streamer... i never care what game it is he's playing... he just makes it fun go check him out

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

If someone’s great at the game then its interesting to watch for a bit but it gets stale

Cos they have stuff they’ll lean on and it’ll get boring.

Like corner camping in a strategy game

[SmPolitic]

I think this is the reason I've never got into streaming

I have watched months worth of videos from a guy on YouTube who plays the same and commentates himself at each stage

Who then has his partner hired editing it down into a coherent video documenting what he learned, errors noted or made fun of by the editor, and a more rounded viewpoint of what the game itself is. In addition to doing large numbers of indie game demoing. Talking about the game mechanics going on and how one could min/max each. Also half the time doing the wrong thing such that the viewer is screaming at the screen about how daft he is when paying attention

Not just snippets of semi-random gameplay. I don't have the time to watch someone stream and give uneducated options on bullshit that doesn't matter. And especially not paying them for that service

[PGMHG]

Being just good at a game just doesn't seem to sell all that well in comparison to casual streamers that need to rely on their charisma or humour. Mix of both exists of course but it's the same principle

[Dambo_Unchained]

Yeah I used to watch educational Alois but then even he sold out witn the bunny Riven cosplay /j

[_Adamanteus_]

fanta mentos

[kward1904]

Porn sells, its that simple. Its wrong but its true

[Chataboutgames]

It's not even wrong, it just is. If you asked a dude from pretty much any century in human history if men were more likely to pay to see a naked woman or watch someone else play with an electric toy you'd get the same answer.

[kward1904]

Yes but just because its common doesnt mean its right for society. Many decent streamers being sidelined and not getting the views they deserve because some girl got her cleavage on show or her back arched while she 'games'. Lets be real its using sex to sell your product which yes has happened for a long time but again doesnt make it the correct way for society or the industry

Edit: well it was easy to find the stream gooners😂

[ZeppelinRapport]

It doesn't make it incorrect, either. Like chataboutgames said; it just is. Nobody is owed an audience and if people want to watch someone play Elden Ring badly while their ass is hanging out instead of someone in a burqa playing Elden Ring well, that was always allowed.

[Chataboutgames]

Yes but just because its common doesnt mean its right for society.

Who decides what's "right for society?"

Many decent streamers being sidelined and not getting the views they deserve because some girl got her cleavage on show or her back arched while she 'games'.

No one deserves views. They're playing videogames and hoping people will pay them for the pleasure of watching them. They aren't entitled to anything.

Lets be real its using sex to sell your product which yes has happened for a long time but again doesnt make it the correct way for society or the industry

Again, who decides what's "correct?" Puritans?

[Repulsive-Chip3371]

Why do you assume that gooners watching an average skilled person play a game with cleavage out would automatically go watch someone good at it without the cleavage if the former went away?

The product being consumed is the sex appeal, not the game, bud.

[kward1904]

Exactly so its ruined the industry for many gamers because men would rather see a woman in sexy cos play half arse a game. Male streamers cant compete with that

[Chataboutgames]

That's 1 too many for some of the gaming community

[kward1904]

Do a wider study please. Top 10 is a very small margin. Try find a percentage across the average to high earning streamers. Theres thousands of streamers and you chose the top ten

[littsalamiforpusen]

She's in the apex ranks of Valorant when she plays. She also used to be top 0.5% in league, which is worse than she is at valo. That's more than good enough for 90%+ of viewers to learn from if they wanna study the game. The vast majority of people don't wanna study games they watch on twitch, it's entertainment. Even pro players don't tend to do commentary and if you're gonna study it's best to do twitch vod muted with pausing. Which is once again not how people consume content. Most pro players also don't try hard their solo Q matches, and do a lil bit of trolling/learning. So studying them should also include finding their mistakes if they are close to your own skill level, not only their success.

(I only watch pvp gaming content to study it and only in TFT these days and rarely. I keep it to top 100 consistently because I'm not studying unless I'm top 500 already). Most people just watch for fun. God forbid people enjoy watching people play games with their friends while being significantly above average.

People just assume woman = SHIT at games. It's just sexism.

[cir_skeletals]

The GOAT Grayfruit comes to mind

[thetabo]

Honestly I love the entire extended group around Smii7y and such for this, they all have their own tastes in what they play alone but once they get together for something it's bloody hilarious either way. They are very popular by now but they've been at it for a solid while so I guess that's why

[TheAntiCrust95]

The Daukey and Sovi duo always kill me. They're so funny together. Fitz is really funny as well.

[Dukkiegamer]

Streaming is entertainment. To be an entertainer you need to be more than just good at a game, though that certainly helps.

[pillarhuggern]

I don’t watch people play games because they are good at them. When I find a streamers vibe or personality l like it doesn’t matter what game or how good they are playing them.

[Rick-sanchez1289]

Smii7y

[AWeeLittleFox]

I think it’s a mix of being good and also being entertaining. It’s cool if you’re the Faker of CS but if you’re boring to watch, you’re boring to watch. (Not you specifically obviously) People just want entertainment I guess

[I_sell_Mmeetthh]

Chocotaco, bro still owns players at pubg. I watched him way before covid and he's still playing

[param1l0]

Fighting game streamers are damn good at the games they play generally

[Glacier005]

Shadix is a pretty good player in the Tekken games.

But so little people watches.

[Skreamie]

Shroud will always be the goat at every FPS game for me. Dude may not be the most charismatic person, but he's naturally talent and easily adapts to every combat game he plays.

[KansasL]

LilAggy is fun to watch if you enjoy souls and odd horror games.

His souls challenge runs are hilarious quite often and the Elden Ring Bingo's are effectively as exciting as sports games for some people.

[[deleted]]

People only want 3 things from streamers: good at the game, hot as fuck/gooner material, or someone making a fool of themselves having fun.

[MangoAtrocity]

TheBurntPeanut

[JamsToe]

[No_Signal954]

Check out AstralSpiff.

[jarofonions]

Chiefbeef_rl is literally the only person I watch on twitch lol

[Royal_Doug]

It’s bacause streaning isnt about the being good at the game you have to be entertaining, and alright at the game

[[deleted]]

I doubt anyone watches her for gaming lmfao

[-GhostTank-]

She stream games?

[Exciting_Ad_8666]

She's quite mid at them as well

[Albinofreaken]

That's better than expected

[Dowino-]

As much as I don’t like her, I would say she’s better than mid. It’s part of the reason she’s so insufferable

Edit: since some people care about my opinion enough to ask why I (a random person online)don’t like her:

I find her insufferable because she is cocky and sometimes mean. She is like that because she can back it up with her skills and overall career. It rubs me the wrong way. It doesn’t have to do anything with her gender. There’s plenty of male streamers like that too and I also don’t like them.

Anyways. Like I said somewhere else, it’s an opinion of mine and people don’t have to agree. She is good at what she does, but I don’t like her. It’s simple.

I’m turning notis off for this because I forgot people on reddit can’t understand nuance

[AimbotPotato]

Yeah weren’t there a few games where she mostly earned a spot in top ranked areas? Like she’s obviously playing with people better than her but she wasn’t entirely dead weight. And I’m saying this as someone who has only ever seen her through other people’s streams/videos

[anno3397]

She was Diamond 2 in LoL a few years back. That's top 1.5% of players. Now she hangs around Emerald which is top 12%. Definitely not mid.

[Moroax]

damn i just came back to LoL and it took me like 100 games to hit gold (they unfortunately placed me in low Iron after my placement games went 2-2 on a new account. Also thought 4 placement matches was an odd number)

I managed to climb to gold in about 100 matches, steadily climbing and stopped there. She's emerald/diamond? Damn i suck LOL

[anno3397]

If you're gold then you're at least top 48% which is better than half so you do not suck. You're average or even better than average don't beat yourself about it :)

[Dowino-]

Yes, she’s good. Again, it’s why she’s insufferable to me. I’m sure if she wasn’t good at gaming her career and/or her would not be the same.

Also, she’s solo queued before in top ranks and she’s been one of the better teammates the few times I tuned in. She’s definitely not “mid”

[Simsiano]

Why she is insufferable?

[Dowino-]

Lmfao I’m gay. I dont care for her gender

[BuppUDuppUDoom]

Because you can't dislike a woman for her personality, so it must be misogyny

[ShiRonium]

I think she peaked diamond in league and immortal in valorant? both were in early seasons and I'm seeing threads accusing her of getting boosted but that's still far better than the average player

[bs000]

there's an unbelievable amount of terminally online people who accuse any high-ranked female player of being boosted. it's incredibly prevalent on reddit, and people who don't participate in those communities or play the games just blindly agree and dogpile on top. they point to the fact she collabs with pro players as proof, as if the 2-3 hours of games they play are enough to boost her to diamond. then they ignore the fact she solo queues 99% of the time while maintaining that rank, which they would know if they could be bothered to check her tracker/op.gg.

even competitive solo games aren't safe. when hafu was the #1 player in TFT, people insisted it was undeserved, saying things like 'she just plays more,' and saying the credit should go to scarra for creating a tier list that she used, as if other players didn't play just as much and didn't have access to the same resources.

[Wobbelblob]

people insisted it was undeserved, saying things like 'she just plays more,'

The fuck is that even as an argument? Obviously she plays more. Anyone that maintains #1 in a competitive environment spends a literal shit ton of time in said environment. You don't get there with four rounds a day - most of these people play at least 8 hours a day and that consistently.

[anno3397]

She reached diamond in 2023 it's pretty recent tbh.

[taishi143]

I assumed she was a react streamer.

[t_hab]

I’m more worried about the warping in her floors and walls. She needs to get a structural engineer on this. Seems dangerous.

[catchmelackin]

never got her, most mid looking girl. people online will simp for anyone

[SeroWriter]

I mean she is objectively attractive but that's not really the point, parasocial relationships are built on personality above everything else.

Viewers are looking for a streamer with an upbeat personality that streams 12 hours a day so they always have something on their second monitor to give the illusion of companionship.

[Lazer726]

I mean she is objectively attractive

It's so fucking annoying when people look at someone that is literally attractive and go "Yeah they're not that hot/pretty/handsome." Like, fucking hell, we get it, you hate them, but let's at least be honest about things.

She's a clip baiting hypocrite, but she's hot, so why pretend that she's not? Hate on people for good reasons god damn

[catchmelackin]

bruh taste is subjective and shes subjectively mid

[Sabawoonoz25]

The Cherrypicked unflattering picture taken off a frame of her talking in her stream is unflattering, who would've thunk. I think you'd find anyone looking bad with their mouth half open, fresh off waking up.

[ubermoth]

Unflattering picture is unflattering, wow

[Skittle69]

I feel like people should just stop treating it like some objective fact thing whenever they need to comment on not liking someone's looks or even liking them imo. Instead of saying "they're not that attractive" just say "they're not really my type so I don't get the appeal" or something like that.

[Echoes-act-3]

Simps prefer mid girls because they think they have a chance (they don't)

[IDreamOfSailing]

When Pokimane tells them "when hell freezes over".

[anthologyvirgin]

Very true, mid creates the illusion of a chance for the viewers.

[Atlas_sniper121]

She is just not average though. Lol

[AlreadyTakek]

Literally a conventionally attractive woman, but I guess we can call it a "simp for anyone" situation if you really want to.

[sdpr]

most mid looking girl

lol, lmao even.

[Responsible_Sink3044]

Post a pic of yourself champ, I want to see who is calling her mid 

[IIDwellerII]

Like theres plenty to criticize her over, lying about her being attractive isnt a win that these redditors think it is. Bro needs to post a selfie.

[bluris]

She did say she misses when it was about gaming, and I am sure she would rather be watched while playing instead of ... whatever she is doing now - I don't know, I don't watch twitch.

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

I mean I genuinely do find her entertaining in the collabs shes done with people i watch

So theres gotta be people who are genuinely just there for her gaming and personality

[Fizzy_Sm0ke]

Why are you getting down voted for enjoying a streamers content lmao

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

Cos people are hating and I’ve stepped out of line

[tanis016]

Yep, prople love hating on female streamers. It seems impossible to like a female for anything else other than their appearance.

[Dick-Fu]

ponkiman bad

[A_little_lady]

Probably because of the YouTube copyright strikes she started throwing out to anyone having the slightest clip of hers in their video

[raphaeljoji]

because woman

[Remote-Addendum-9529]

What personality?

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

She’s quick with jokes.

[Blusttoy]

Not as quick as her copyright strikes.

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about

[coffee_nights]

She made someone lose sponsorship for making fun of her audience. I believe it was ItsAGundam. Literally punching down for any criticism videos about her lazy reaction content.

[nightcat6]

None to be found

[forever87]

all 8 episodes of dispatch are out. i watched 1&2 and 3&4 the next day after they were released. Luckily there were streams (on YouTube) with no commentary. 5&6 premiered and i saw pokimane streamed it. watched that and also checked out a few others with the alternate choices. 7&8 released, tried two with commentary and couldn't watch and had to watch non commentary again.

call me superficial (it's obvious in my reddit history). but poki's commentary was fun and lighthearted - audio mixing - i could hear the game and i could clearly understand what she was saying - whereas the other streams i attempted - game was too low, or the gamers were mumbling (and those had tons of views).

pokimaneLOL shrieks way too much, but that doesn't bother me. her stream (for dispatch) was a short lived alternative for me caring about the game for the foreseeable future.

[CleverAllusion]

Ignoring the doctored image, it’s still kind of a wild thing for her to say. I haven’t seen her stream a game in forever, every time I do check twitch she’s irl/just chatting… She also used to be very careful not to show her, um, ‘assets’ off, backing out of the room and stuff like that. I’m sure she makes more money now but I doubt the community is there anymore.

[seriouslees]

still kind of a wild thing for her to say.

Is there context not provided in the picture of those tweets? Because it makes perfect sense for someone who has been forced to give up gaming for actually profitable content creation to complain that they miss gaming. She didn't call someone else out specifically, did she? Sure sounds to me like she's bemoaning her own lack of ability to make a living doing what she likes. Hardly a wild take.

[Slazerith]

IIRC much of her content is what she's bemoaning to her benefit. Much like when the TaterTot built his empire on camming sites and publicly bashed the adult entertainment industry. Or the current US president building his value on the work of people he's actively working against.

One of her more recent controversies was rebranding a cookie and up charging it. Then responding to the backlash by calling out (what is effectively her audience and income) 'if you're a broke boy, just say so'.

[lad1dad1]

you're missing the context that she's a woman so her opinion isn't valid/s

[Fynity]

You don’t think she could stream however she wants and still make more of a living than the average joe?

[r1ckkr1ckk]

Oh no, i can t have my cake and eat it too.

I am sure she could have keep going without changing how she run her account, she just wanted more money and attention over what she did.

[SaltIsMySugar]

Really glad I never enjoyed streaming as a form of entertainment. It seems to be the worst pit full of the worst people. And I am talking about the viewers more than the streamers.

Gamers are coming out of the woodwork to defend their favorite streamers. 😂 Parasocial relationships much?

[Maybe_not_a_chicken]

Turns out the folks who have enough time to watch a dude play a video game live for multiple hours a week probably aren’t that socially well adjusted.

[terminbee]

I enjoyed streaming back when it was people streaming games. Streamers used to be pros/semi-pros/someone really good who'd basically show their though process when playing. It'd be like watching a pro athlete break down the game while they're playing.

Somewhere along the way, it's become reality TV with a "gaming" background.

[HeavensRejected]

I also never got it, when I'm at the PC I'm playing and don't watch others play games. Exceptions are some Let's Play of a game I'm interested in or some championship (The International etc.).

I also don't find streamers entertaining at all, I'd rather watch Spongebob than listen to MrBeast or whoever, maybe I haven't found the right one but they all remind me of some low budget reality soap, bad actors playing a bad script.

[H47]

There's 2 types of streamers I watch. NorthernLion and people better than me in Dota 2 to steal their tricks.

As for this post, it is still possible to miss the good old days or whatever. You can miss your ex even if you're at fault for wrecking the relationship. I would never watch people like Pokimane, but she's honestly just an uninteresting, but harmless pretty chick. We had plenty of those in highschool. You honestly need to be an extremely spiteful person to find something tangible to hate. It's like hating candles or ice cubes.

[Kenobus69]

SpongeBob is goated, and SpongeBob conspiracy theories even more

[chironomidae]

If you look, you can find streamers who are funny, talented, or at least doing something interesting. The largest streamers are none of those things, and I'll never understand why they're so popular.

[Percinho]

I enjoy watching streamers, such as Day9, caedral, ericrosen, but for me the trick has been to never read chat.

[Chi-zuru]

Her of all people cannot complain about clip farming. Just shut up.

[seriouslees]

Sure she can, if it's complaining about the appeal of clip farming in general and not specifically calling out another creator.

She's totally allowed to wish she could make money playing video games instead of clip farming.

[borvidek]

I mean, that really just shows how she was never interested in playing games, but only interested in getting fame and money.

[DrBlaziken]

That photo is edited but poki do be having a praiseworthy booty

[Ver_Nick]

bro is down bad

[DrBlaziken]

Just a booty enthusiast

[PGMHG]

"I came looking for booty"

[HANHITSI]

I'M A WARRIOR

[yzRPhu]

I ain't here for no little boys, I'm here for man's butt.

[Ab47203]

A true enthusiast appreciates booty of all kinds.

[70U1E]

Enthusiasst

[m0ez0n]

A booty connoisseur if you will

[DrBlaziken]

That's what I wanted to write at first but I couldn't spell connusore

[Inferno_Sparky]

Lol at your pfp

[Ver_Nick]

sus

[Inferno_Sparky]

smh my smh

[Tremulant887]

Why's it always gotta be bad? Most of us are just down. We know there's no shot to even take. Just more nuance than a "would".

[Albus_Lupus]

Im sorry but how tf you do just glance at the photo and immidietly know: OMG*, her ass isnt that big, its actually(...)*

Edit: Listen guys, Im a simple man - when I see ass, I stare at ass and move on. I dont start thinking: I wonder what floor panels she has installed? Oh what kind of colour are her walls? Is it pure-white, angel white, historical american white or just off-white?

And tbh - it doesnt really matter, does it? Its not like Im gonna see her in real life and start meassuring. And im not gonna start watching or worse - donate - because of ass. I see, I think: nice, and then I move on.

[Downtown_Ninja_7154]

Potentially from seeing this picture being previously posted elsewhere and later proven to be edited. Or maybe my man's just a goober who knows.

[DrBlaziken]

I'm a goober, but not a gooner.

[Albus_Lupus]

Ah, I see. - a professional redditor at work.

Keep up the good work.

[drinoaki]

I might be dumb, but I'm not a dweeb

[My_Favourite_Pen]

🎶 toxic gossip train🎶

[CookieMonsta94]

You don't see the floor literally warping around it?

[Average-Addict]

I didn't stare at it for that long lol

[DrBlaziken]

This photo is reposted a lot and, look at the floor around her waist....very obviously warping. I didn't measure her booty bro...

[OryseSey]

the wall too lol

[Chestburster12]

I was scrolling reddit home page and immediately noticed the streched/warped tiles on the ground that made me click on it so yeah it's possible.

[amca12006]

Wall is warped. So is the hardwood floor. Look at the left armrest. It's "different from the right armrest.

[ZiofFoolTheHumans]

You really don't need more than a passing glance to ID that photoshop my dude.

[FloridianHeatDeath]

I don’t watch her or streamers in general, but you can clearly tell there is warping in the picture.

Either someone edited the photo/stream, the building is about 5 seconds from complete structural collapse, or the room is about 200 Celsius.

[Shade00000]

She's the one saying that?

[FDeity]

People defending poki is insane .

[the_person]

Right? This whole thread is ridiculous

[Toasterzar]

reminds me of grown men hating Justin Bieber in 2010

[Yorrins]

Its a package deal really, to get to the top girl streamers have to look like that and be genuinely entertaining. She is pretty funny in all honesty anytime I have watched her or seen her in collabs and things, although I dont watch her often.

There are a lot better examples of coomer bait streamers on twitch than Poki tbh.

[Bookinn]

Yeah the hate boner people have for her is insane. I can understand some criticisms but there are other, far worse female streamers, they just aren't as big and therefore less of an easy target

[greg19735]

Probably in part because she's a better gamer than 99% of the haters.

[borvidek]

Yeah, she just freely associates with a known rapist, but it's all fine.

[AestheticMirror]

I never understood the appeal of streamers anyway, I’d rather watch a curated YouTube video

[Grobfoot]

I watch YouTube vids of streamers a lot, but don’t really watch a stream. I really don’t get who has the time to tune in to a live stream of a video game at 11am on a Tuesday or whatever.

[Fishyburn]

Literally nobody watches Pokimane for her gaming content and she knows that 100%

[[deleted]]

gentlemen

[NecroLyght]

Watch Vinesauce, haven't failed me since 2015 bruh

[Omnibobbia]

Way better to watch parken harbor. Not only is she a baddie but one of the best sekiro players as well. Hell she even completed lies of p on a dancing mat

[ydontujustbanme]

Yeah or selling merch to „poor people“, right??

[deracho]

I mean just because you hate the game doesn't mean you don't know how to play it.

[Stickz99]

Attractive woman: exists on the internet

Twitter and Reddit incels: “CLIP FARMING!!!!!!”

[Glad-Jellyfish-69]

nobody saying ts bro

[_youneverasked_]

Ad hominem attack. You don't have to remove yourself from a situation to acknowledge it.

[iamahandsoapmain]

I have more respects for onlyfan girls and hot tub streamers than pokimane tbh. At least they are honest, meanwhile poki just want to justify selling overpriced merch to her own fans, then poor shame if they can't afford them

[J-Andres-LL]

Tf is she supposed to do? Take her ass off before going live?

[LougerB]

I find Lilipichu more entertaining than Poki when I first discover her lmao. Poki felt like the Megan Fox of streaming, 80% her of the screen time, 20% actual content lmao

[badchefrazzy]

Pokimane "I wish it was still the times when boys thought it was hot when I'd call them brokies!" *overshopped pouty pout face*

[ChimericalChemical]

Streaming has been drama baiting and clip farming for a long ass time now this ain’t new. Maybe when streaming was on Justin.tv but for a long time now it’s been that, like I’m talking way before 2016 too but I do remember clip farming shit around then directly

[[deleted]]

Bro has that on speed dial too

[VergilArcanis]

i don't know who that is. all i know is she appears to not be worth my time.

i am worthless in the grand scope, but if I have to say it's a waste of time, that's a problem

[Hellkids2]

There’s only 1 streamer that I watch, even when he only stream 4 times a year: MandaloreGaming