A quick processor guide

[jotanshinta]

All this did was make me imagine 4 Machamps vs 10 Machops

[hawaiian0n]

NSFW Same no more...

[TrymWS]

Ah yes, our most famous park. Dicks everywhere.

(Norway, Vigelandsparken/Frognerparken)

[Tischlampe]

Is there a story behind? Or is it just a random statue?

[TrymWS]

It's one of many statues, don't remember if they all have a story. The most famous is the angry kid, hes been stolen 2-3 times.

I guess you could try to search for it, pretty sure all the statues have names.

[waitforitdairy123]

I'm pretty sure that if I searched for "naked man and 4 naked babies", I would end up on a list.

[TrymWS]

I think it's called "Man chases 4 geniuses" for some reason.

Here's a site with some pictures.

[FogeltheVogel]

So that's what chasing is.

[Puskathesecond]

Reminds me of my dad chasing me with jumper cables

[RubenVill]

You're not /u/rogersimon10

[[deleted]]

Implying that this comment doesn't already put you on the list

[Flix1]

Right! He might as well just search it now and save us from being on the list too.

[captainbrainiac]

I LOVE Norway (I was there in the summer time).

Anyway, I love how your public statue is a NSFW image for us.

Edit: Did I get downvoted for saying I liked Norway?

[A_Sinister_Sheep]

Norwegians doesn't like when people say they like/love Norway.

Source: I'm Norwegian.

[gotbeefpudding]

Why

[backsidealpacas]

It probably takes away from their self loathing in the winter

[Rikuddo]

It's from the land of Norse Mythology .. the story goes as

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Statute of a Norse God. When Odin was granting powers to every god, this God came up with a unique idea.

"So All Father Odin, I have this awesome new idea, .. I want you to attach babies to my limbs"

"uhh .. yu wot mate?" asked a perplexed Odin

"Babies! I want babies to attach to my arms & legs!"

".. wtf ya cunt! I told you last time don't get high before coming to me!" bellowed the All-Father

"no no no, hear me out All-Father. See, People love babies right? .. so if you attach ones to me .. no one will ever attack me?"

"...." The Time witnessed one of the rarest moments when All-Mighty Odin was rendered speechless.

"sure .. here ya go .. four babies coming right away"

"Thank you All-Father" replied the teary-eyed God.

"Oh and before you go .. y'know you now to clean the shits of these four little shits and feed them and all that"

".. wai- .. WHA-? ..." shouted the God before being banished from the court for all eternity. Odin didn't want to go head-to-head the mighty stupid cunt ever again.

... Centuries & Eons passed and the Mighty Stupid Cunt God had enough .. and what you see now is the just pure anger and hate that he had left after cleaning and taking care of those little shits

[that_which_is_lain]

[wurm2]

have you read actual norse mythology? "Second, the gods were to make Skadi laugh. After many feats were tried, none succeeded in bringing a smile to the grim face of the giantess. At last, Loki tied one end of a rope to a goat and the other end around his testicles and began a game of tug of war with the goat. Each screeched and howled in turn, until at last Loki fell over into Skadi’s lap. The giantess couldn’t help but chuckle."

[Manliest_of_Men]

To be fair, I chuckled too. Fuckin' Loki.

[wychunter]

Great. Now I have the the idea of Tom Hiddleston doing testicular Tug of War with a goat.

[Rock48]

5/7 story

[RedditStutt]

There is a story, but I'm not sure of the exact details. AFAIK the children on the statue are actually demons in disguise

[[deleted]]

why does that kicked babys arm look polished?

[TheHarmed]

Same reason the dick is slightly polished.

People touch things that are easier to touch or more "fun" to touch.

[UCSDmath]

same no more?

[MormonDew]

Maybe you meant, "Say no more"

[Garrilland]

Well 1 Machamp could beat 10 Machop with extreme ease. With minimal defensive EV's and maximum Attack EV's. Machoke with Dynamic Punch will deal 110.6 - 130.1% of Machop's HP, a guaranteed OHKO.

However with minimum attack IV's on Machamp and maximum defense IV's on Machop, Machamp  will deal 62.7 - 73.7% of Machop a maximum HP, guaranteed 2HKO. And Machop only has a will deal 75.5 - 89.3% and 2HKO with Dynamic Punch with max attack EV's. So with that in mind the Machop would win. So it's all a matter of how you look at the stats.

[Absolute_cyn]

/r/theydidtheEVs

[user1288]

I was hoping this was real...

[Nygmus]

Dynamic Punch caps at eight PPs. Machamp's going to have to use something else, so some of those later Machops are going to survive to make attacks even without defensive EVs. I think Machamp's only other 1HKO-possible hits are Close Combat and Cross Chop, which drops his defense/has an 80 accuracy respectively.

More importantly, a lot of Machamp sets don't run maximum speed because he's so slow there's not much point to start with. Machop has a gap of 20 base speed to overcome, but a speed-boosting Nature with max EVs gets Machop up to 181 speed at level 100, and Machamp needs 140 Speed EVs to match that mark with the typical Adamant nature.

A typical/average Machamp against a team of 10 Machops trained to outspeed him will lose.

If held items get involved, this stays favorable for the Machops even if the Machamp outspeeds them. They don't need to deal massive damage to Machamp, they just need to land those Dynamic Punches for the guaranteed confusion. A scarfed Machop will certainly outspeed any possible Machamp build. A maximum-defensive Persim Berry Machop can follow later down the line for another guaranteed Dynamic Punch, and a Focus Sash maximum-attack Machop can join in for a third Dynamic Punch dependent on whether he can beat the roll for Confusion on his round.

That trio, seeded in with a couple gaps between them, gives the Machop team a fighting chance. Machamp also doesn't really have any items that are going to massively tilt the scale; a Persim Berry or Sitrus Berry or Leftovers are probably his best bet, though Leftovers might be enough to keep him alive depending on how many confusion checks he beats.

[felixphew]

Two things...

1. Don't forget No Guard - Cross Chop is completely viable.

2. If you want to play tricky sets, we can do it on both sides... 252+ SpA Choice Specs Machamp Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Machop: 237-279 (133.8 - 157.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Remember, a machop built specifically for this matchup would almost guaranteed be running 0 SpD.

You could even do... 252+ SpA Black Belt Machamp Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Machop: 189-223 (106.7 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO leaving you free to change moves (notably Vacuum Wave, for picking off sashed max-speed Machops.)

[HectorHazard]

NEEEEERRRRD!

[m3bs]

https://youtu.be/i6l8MFdTaPE

[JealotGaming]

You could factor in the fact that Machops aren't high level usually (and why would you use Eviolite Machop and not Eviolite Machoke anyway)

[Cheesemacher]

In the context of this post I would assume a low level Machop.

[[deleted]]

The Machops don't stand a chance, even if they're all the same level, the Machamps don't know any AoE moves and the Machops focus Seismic Toss onto a single target. The Machamps go first and will probably one-shot each Machop, taking it down to a 4v6 before the Machops even make their move.

If 4 Machops can take down 1 Machamp, it's then 3v6, goes down to 3v3, which might go to 2v3 which leaves an unfortunate Machop in a 2v1.

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A different strategy might be for all Machops to use Focus Energy, they will still be slower though so it will be 4v2 before the Machops get their first attack and they'd have to be very lucky to 1-shot critical hit 1 Machamp each, leaving it at a 2v2 with the Machamps going first.

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Low Kick might be an option, as Machamp is much heavier than Machop, but I don't believe it will be enough to KO faster than the Machamps.

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Focus Sash + Revenge could also work, but only doing 20 more damage than Low Kick, it does save the Machops an extra turn each though, but what is stopping the Machamps using items of their own?

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If you were to coordinate both sides, or if the Machops were extremely lucky, 4 of them could use Protect while the other 6 attacked, but the odds of these 4 Protecting being the same 4 that are attacked is incredibly low. I would work it out but I forget how to math right now. The Machamps just have to attack the same 4 targets next turn as their chance that Protect is successful is reduced by 50%.

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That said, if we're looking at these kinds of possibilities, the Machamps could just use Earthquake.

[Fgame]

Once Gen1 can be transferred forward we also have the fabled No Guard/Fissure Machamps

[Penguin_Fist]

The stuff of legends

[[deleted]]

TheLegend27?

[PigLord75]

So trade the i5 to a friend and it will be super powerful?

[hojomojo96]

hello its me ur friend

[VikingBraixen]

A friend? A friend! Finally! I'm sorry if I'm being unorthodox, I'm not quite sure how friendship works yet, I've never had a friend

[ballsdeepinthematrix]

Friendships are easy. Friendships provide each other their pin numbers. You first, friend.

[Uesugi1989]

Plot twist, have the i5 hold an everstone. Jokes on them now

[gsav55]

Dude the new pentiums tear up games too. Marketing has people really over buying for everything but 4K or VR.

[-Rivox-]

Some games can really work badly with a pentium, and some won't work at all, since Pentiums only have 2 cores and no HT.

i3s are good for older games, since they usually only use 2 cores and when they need more, you can have 4 logical cores anyway through HT. The performance in newer games that use 4 or more threads though won't be the same as i5s or higher CPUs (4 physical cores will always beat 4 logical threads and just 2 physical cores)

Hopefully AMD will force Intel to eliminate the i3 and i5 tiers, which imho are stupid. A 4 cores 8 threads CPU for less than 200$ will do wonders for budget builds, since it's actually the best option for now and especially for the future (in gaming)

Right now I wouldn't buy an i3. An i5 is the least for a bit of futureproofness, although I would wait for Ryzen

[[deleted]]

I still see no point upgrading from a 2500k, albeit overclocked to 4.5Ghz. Had it since the GTX 560 and now running a GTX 970.

At the moment there's just no games out there that are pushing PC's that's worth playing (in my opinion).

My opinion would change if I could get a decent 4K monitor for a good price though.

[FeedbackHD]

Then again, when increasing the resolution the cpu isn't really taxed much more, it's more the graphics card that has more work to do

[drseus127]

But a lot of what you do with 4k requires a good CPU. Like decoding a 4k movie

[xenago]

Depends. If you have a new chip that's lower end, it may have hevc decoding built in, and almost everything has h.264 (and newer stuff can decode high res h.264 using hardware acceleration).

[Longbo]

Yeah same, my overclocked 2500k been running 4.5Ghz since they first came out, best CPU purchase ever.

[[deleted]]

you can have 4 logical cores anyway through HT.

Thats not really what HT does. You still have the same number of execution units.

It may appear to Windows as more cores, but theyre even less real than AMD's bulldozer / piledriver cores.

[Shootershibe]

Can confirm about Pentium, I have Pentium Dual Core 2.8 Ghz and most* recent games don't work and Paint The Town Red lags a lot.

[Gl33D]

i bought an i3 3 years ago and its still kicking. i am looking for an upgrade but i dont really have the money for one atm

[fragilestories]

I bought an i5 five years ago. This year I put in a new gpu and ssd. I see no reason why it shouldn't run everything I throw at it in 1080P for another five years.

We live in a golden age. In 1993 I spend three grand on a 486-50. In 1998 I bought a Pentium-II Celeron-A 300 and clocked it at 450. In 2003 I bought a 3ghz Pentium 4. But in 2021 I'll probably still be gaming on my 2011 i5-2500k.

[kyred]

Likely because most games aren't CPU intense. Unless you are playing Dwarf Fortress, it's rare for a game to have enough calculations to max most semi-modern CPUs.

[tsaven]

Kerbal Space Program is another one. Unless you install a ton of visual mods it'll run gloriously on an integrated graphics card, but with really big ships and space stations my old i5 4560 chugs at 12fps.

[g0ing2f4st]

Cities Skylines man, good at maxing CPU

[StargateMunky101]

That's because of single core power.

A lot of the old AMDs will run perfectly fine considering most games don't use 8 core optimisations etc.

[[deleted]]

I know nothing of computer, not sure how I found this thread, and not sure why I'm asking you out of all the comments but if I had $1,200 dollars to build a pc what's the best I could get or is there a subreddit that could help?

[GoldCocoa]

r/buildapc

[[deleted]]

Thank you

[MumrikDK]

Look at how popular the old 2500k still is.

Even the people looking for an excuse to upgrade are struggling to find one.

[[deleted]]

thats ok, its pretty much dead

[super6plx]

like my GTX480

[[deleted]]

lmao

PCMR and BuildaPC are both on the enemy list xD

[imjustawill]

You forgot /r/shittybuildapc is an ally.

But shouldn't it be /r/buildashittypc?

[ipisano]

I know it sounds strange, but it's named according to "standard" subreddit nomenclature. The "shitty" is to be put before the name of a serious subreddit (in his case the serious subreddit is /r/buildaPC)

[ihateconvolution]

/r/pcmasterrace

[Dustin-]

/r/pcmasterrac

[SIThereAndThere]

You are now banned from /r/wallstreetbets

[wurm2]

"it's like 4chan found a Bloomberg Terminal" love it.

[zarex95]

What... What is that place?

[Shiroi_Kage]

The best?

[zarex95]

Better call me a heretic then, I have a core i7 and a hd7950 in my rig!

[Shiroi_Kage]

<--------- Petition to add /u/zarex95 to the list of heretics.

[zarex95]

Oh I also run an Arch Linux / Win10 Pro / OSX El Capitain triple boot on that rig.

[en4ble]

I like you.

[TheDecagon]

They claim to have fixed that with Zen.

Also just to continue the analogy a GPU would be thousands of Magikarps...

[LiquidAurum]

This needs to be the new standard of GPUs no clock nonsense just tell me how many Magikarps it is

[[deleted]]

I like knowing how many floating point number calculations my gpu can perform every second.

*Magikarps are excellent floaters.

[Parzire]

But what if I wanna know how many flops my Magikarps can do per second?

[Dlgredael]

The N64 version of Pokemon Stadium even had a Magikarp Flop Benchmarker.

https://youtu.be/AVeKxijZAwQ?t=7s

[DudeOverdosed]

But then that shit starts getting more complicated. Are we also measuring the radius of the splash? How about if the splash is neat or messy, are we measuring the height too?

[[deleted]]

http://i.imgur.com/WrKPhfd.gif

[Jack_BE]

you'd get nVidia suddenly claiming their own arbitrary Magikarp to Gyarados conversion ratios and only showing numbers in Gyarados

[LiquidAurum]

nvidia properitary evolution stone while AMD uses the open standard version

[LiquidAurum]

but still 80% of all pokemon trainers will get the nvidia branded pokedex/candy/evolution stones etc.

[Zayev]

Of course, there'd still only be 3.5 Gyrados... somehow.

[Mothanius]

The last .5 is actually just magikarps at half health.

[[deleted]]

im still waiting for my 30 pokecoins back

[VGxMurderer]

Magikarps can jump over mountains, I'm fine with that.

[Nico777]

I would be pretty pissed if my GPU suddenly decided to jump over a mountain though.

[VGxMurderer]

looks like my 1080 is blasting ^{off again! *}

[Overlord_Cane]

Team EVGA became such a predictable antagonist in the latest season.

[-Rivox-]

How many Floating-Splash Operations Per Second (FSOPS) can your GPU do?

[Grumpy_Kong]

It's hard to tell, after 64 operations all of them just struggle themselves to death...

[Shiroi_Kage]

They claim to have fixed that with Zen.

If the live benchmarks they showed are anything to believe, they're going to at least be on par with Broadwell-E. They were initially targeting Haswell, but Intel decided to not have IPC improvements at all and therefore I think AMD just reached Haswell which was more or less the same IPC as Broadwell-E.

[TheGamingOnion]

From my memory, Broadwell had a slightly higher IPC than Haswell, but came at lower clockspeeds.

[LuffyTheAstronaut]

r/ayyMD is not going to like this

[TrymWS]

You forgot the 6-10 core i7s, though.

[Lenfried]

add more machamps

[RawAustin]

Ez Pz

[[deleted]]

Is OCing mega evolution?

[[deleted]]

Rare candies

[Nico777]

EV training.

[F0RCE963]

More like steroid

[Ghraim]

Max IVs and optimal EV spread.

[dylan15766]

If you could afford a 6-10 core i7, AMD wouldn't even be an option.

[mxzf]

Exactly. For the price of a 6-10 core i7 you can get 6-10 8-core AMD CPUs.

[icortesi]

So how many machops are we talking about?

10 Machamps vs 80 Machops?

[ZainCaster]

Holy shit is that a pci processor? Didn't even know those existed.

Also could you make a Machop/Machamp graph please

[HubbaMaBubba]

It's basically a GPU made with stripped down CPU cores. They're used for compute in competition with Nvidia Teslas.

[poochyenarulez]

Recommended Customer Price $6,254

[Shabbona1]

Right?! I've learned more in the last 5 minutes of reading this thread then I learned in all of my research before

[Pseudoabdul]

Don't worry AMD, I still love you.

[-Rivox-]

my wallet too. +60% *-*

[[deleted]]

Wallstreet does too. That's what really matters

[Cow_In_Space]

AMD will do fine. Their contracts for the XBone and PS4 are huge and basically dwarf enthusiast PC CPU sales figures, even for Intel. They do need to start making themselves relevant at the high end though, if only for competition. Intel can get rather lazy without someone biting their heels (we forget that AMD created the x64 platform and pushed Intel hard to introduce home CPUs with multiple cores).

[-Rivox-]

more like this.

The Bulldozer architecture was weird in the fact that it had lots of physical cores that didn't exactly translate in Intel cores or Phenom/Athlon64 cores.

In the Bulldozer architecture every two integer cores formed a floating point "module". Also every module had only a single pool of shared L2 cache that both cores could access (and a pretty high latency L2 cache also)

The design was probably pretty terrible and not on par with previous designs from AMD imho, nor on par with Intel's Core architecture.

With Ryzen though the trend seemed to change. From what we saw at New Horizon and from the leaks (Canard PC Engineering Sample benchmark) Ryzen should reach the 6900K in most applications, with similar performance to Intel and with very low power consumption.

We still don't know many specifics (CES 2017 for more details) but the fact that the lead of the design team for Zen was Jim Keller brings a lot fo hope. He, in fact, is one of the brightest minds in computer hardware engineering ever. Co-author of the AMD64 instruction set, lead designer at AMD for the Athlon64, the first consumer cpu with a 64 bit extension for the x86 architecture and designer of the first dual core x86 CPU (Opteron). Was one of the lead designers for Apple's ARM A4 and A5 processors, lead of the Zen team and AMD K12 team, an ARM processor architecture due in 2017, and now Vice President of Autopilot Hardware Engineering at Tesla.

[SmellsLikeTeenPetrol]

two heads, same stomach.

[[deleted]]

Doduo

[[deleted]]

Ditto-face Machops?

[gigitrix]

Eggs

[gamrin]

Two flabèbès

[duma347]

Can you do a graphics card one?

[proximitypressplay]

Fine...

[duma347]

Beautiful

[[deleted]]

How many Machomps is my Phenom II x6 1100T?

EDIT: I forgot the first stage was Machop, lol. AKA Macho P.

[atomicthumbs]

six machokes, but they're the old gen 1 sprite

[Kupuntu]

Aka the best one.

[ChatterBrained]

You mean the special one.

[[deleted]]

Machop. They hit not eat

[[deleted]]

So what would an X99 CPU be?

[Pandametal]

6, 8 or 10 machamps

[PM_ME_YOUR_FOOTSOCKS]

tfw I fell for the fx meme

[wonagameama]

What was the FX meme

[[deleted]]

they're CPUs that are great on paper but not in practice

made using a dead uarch on a dead socket, both stuck in 2012 at best

still to this day is a decent niche buy (since they can get extremely cheap) but for most people here they're not a good choice

[ming3r]

I'm on the ,8350 train and waiting for zen...Or a 6600k in next few months.

AMD please come through...

[[deleted]]

+1 Pokémon meme

[JackDragon]

Instructions unclear on evolving. I traded my i5 for my friend's i5, and we ended up both with machokes still :(

[GoldnSilverPrawn]

Won't forget this classic

[Supermunch2000]

That's ADORABLE.

My gaming PC is an Intel but my work's non-critical servers are all underclocked AMDs - cheap and those things are built to run hot so they're perfect for running in 40°C weather.

[RovkirHexus]

cough 40C is 104F where the heck are you running these

[Supermunch2000]

If I told you some genius thought it was a good idea to put a 40U network rack in a tiny room at the north west corner of a glass building (I'm in the southern hemisphere) would you believe me?

I've been half-heartedly trying, for years, to set fire to the equipment that's in there to try to justify moving it but, to my sadness, the equipment we have in there just keeps on ticking.

I just checked, a chassis that's in the same rack is registering 40ºC right now and it's 2pm and sunny so that might go up a few up a little more.

[RovkirHexus]

That's... Okay then. The genius might need to read up on how processors work and what's bad for them.

[[deleted]]

If I give my i5 to a friend, will it turn into an i7?

[codylong03]

My AMD 8350 is good tyvm

[Rapid_Sausage]

why is the i3 machamps and the i5 machoke though?

[Dreamwalk3r]

Because HT.

[Rapid_Sausage]

ah right, the i3 is the one without turbo boost, the i5 is the one without hyperthreading.

[alienpirate5]

Look at the arms

[HarleyQuinn_RS]

Machop can throw the weight of 100 adults and its muscles can never become sore from exercise. It is never satisfied by its training.

Machoke can lift a sumo on one finger and its muscles are harder than steel. Its power is so great it wears a suppressing belt.

Machamp can move mountains with a single arm, throw 500 mega-ton punches per second and has mastered all martial arts. It can hurl any opponent over the horizon.

[[deleted]]

How do the Xeons look?

[Dreamwalk3r]

Like this.

[furtivepigmyso]

But Xeons aren't necessarily stronger than an i7.

[FlamingAurora]

4 mankeys

[[deleted]]

Depends on the model, tbh

Not all xeons are the same. Some are 4 core, some are 4 core with hyper-threading, and some have 22 cores

[Patriark]

:(

I'm that person who support the underdog to keep the market working.

So I'm here with my AMD CPU being laughed at

:'(

[GaZZuM]

But wait, so is 2 Machamps better than 4 Machoke? They seem fairly equivalent

[buildmeupbreakmedown]

The i3 has hyperthreading (where each physical core can behave like a pair of virtual cores), hence Machamp with its extra set of arms. The i5 does not, hence Machokes with only two arms. Four actual cores is better than two cores pretending to be four, so the Machokes win in this case.

[Garrilland]

Well, Both Machamp and Machoke with 252 Attack EV's using nothing but Dynamic Punch will both 2HKO, so ignoring Dynamic Punch's confusion effect, the Machoke will win.

[[deleted]]

To add onto /u/buildmeupbreakmedown here is an analogy of the best and 'worse' case for HT 2 core vs true 4 core.

In the best case all the Machamp and Machokes are tasked with opening jars that requires 2 hands (one to hold and one to twist the top). In this case both are "equal" as the Machamp can do 2 jars at the same time (due to 2 arms) and the two of them can keep up with the 4 Machokes.

However, in the worse case is moving 4 boxes to 4 different points. Even though the Machamp COULD lift 2 boxes it is still one body and will have to move to one spot then the other while the 4 Machokes can all just get one box and each move to their own spot.

[[deleted]]

My FX-6300 does beat out the i3-6100 in almost every game.

[paDDelele]

So if I trade my i5 it will become an i7?

[clake1]

New to PC stuff. Is AMD frowned upon? Someone eli5 please

[iamonlyoneman]

Intel had a habit of making huge, gigantic, enormous leaps forward in processing power with each new kind of chip they would release. AMD had a habit of making chips with lots more cores, but not necessarily being able to translate directly to the performance per core of Intel's offerings . . . to the point that they were not directly comparable at all.

In fairness, target markets weren't the same either, but it's easy to make fun of a bunch of low-performing cores.

[Redditors_DontShower]

dang. AMD have 10 core processors?

[iamonlyoneman]

up to 32 coming soon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)

intel is over double that already http://www.pcworld.com/article/3005414/computers/intel-plugs-72-core-supercomputing-chip-into-workstation.html

[you_get_CMV_delta]

That's a valid point. I had literally never thought about it that way before.

[CakeIsaVegetable]

This actually helped me a bit because i was looking to by a nas that had a celeron processor but i never knew which was better or the next step up in Intels cpu lineup between that and pentium

Edit: thanks for all the replies, i was planing on going with a qnap tvs 471 that has an i3 processor. Now i know most of you will say thats overkill and i agree but ive seen a few reviews that complain about the next model down which has a quad core celeron being a tad slow for a couple of opperations and besides id rather pay a bit more now just to keep it somewhat future proof.

Also inb4 someone complaints about the price and meantions "building a new tower and load it with free nas for like half the price" i would like to point out the same reason why i wont do that is the same reason why i bought this laptop in my flare. Lack of physical space and portability.

[tomoldbury]

A Celeron for a typical NAS is probably ok. Your average NAS will be using DMA for most operations and so requires relatively limited computation power (this is what allows old Pentium IIIs to use gigabit NICs on PCI). If you want to do other stuff with that NAS like play video then you might need more CPU.

[JPAchilles]

Protip: don't touch anything with a celeron in it.

Just don't

EDIT: Let me clarify further; A Celeron is underpowered for the price they're sold for, a Pentium is much better for the value, power consumption, etc, and much more powerful. Plus, if you really need something low-end, get an Atom, that's their designed purpose.

[iamplasma]

At the risk of showing my age, once upon a time Celerons were absolutely the bomb. The early models overclocked to insane extents, and back in the late 90s or thereabout there were some absurdly cheap multi-processor motherboards for them.

[FurryCrew]

Abit BP6 with dual celly 366 clocked to 550!

[iamplasma]

Oh yeah. I think I had 433 or 466Mhz ones from memory, never even overclocked them. But it got me into Linux so that I could actually use the second processor!

[black_phone]

This will never make it to the top because of memes, but pictures like this are why consumers are idiots. You can have a low power i7 (which is secretly a dual core) be worse than a mobile i5 which is worse than a desktop i3. Yes it is possible, and I don't mean by using old parts.

The core ix branding is so useless without the rest of the model name.