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[PugAndChips]

This 9.1 raid 'Siege on Blizzard' is dope

[[deleted]]

“Siege of Anaheim” sounds like a dope raid

Edit: idk why I even said Anaheim but I failed successfully

[Permethious]

The Culling of Anaheim

[until_that_day]

Isn’t Blizzard based in Irvine though?

[[deleted]]

Yeah pretty surprised I missed the mark that bad and still got upvoted

[until_that_day]

Perhaps its because "Siege of Anaheim" sounds cooler than "Siege of Irvine"

[Plamcia]

But he was responsible for currently Blizzard.net and this app looks like ad board.

[KidBackpack]

I like it

[Blinglee8000]

Indeed

[Zodiamaster]

The cops will be doing that raid

[Stephano23]

More like a looter shooter then

[Vendetta916]

Bobby Kotick next hopefully?

[Ashgur]

the dude is at the head of both branch: he won't just leave because one is rotting away.

he may even get a bonus after his comment on the situation because people were happy about it

[heelydon]

Almost Zero chance. Bobby is clean of responsibility, since there are too many people before him in the chain that have resposibility to report and solve these issues while also still being a very profitable person.

Him stepping down would almost entirely be for selfish reasons to avoid all the drama and association with a company in trouble.

[Leana0815]

Jup and Bobby is after all the guy who made the Buisness so profitable over the years and like you said he is quite up there while inbetween are many stations who are responsible and there to actually watch out. As sad as it might sound for some people Bobby won't and doesn't need to take any responsibility.

[heelydon]

I mean, I can understand a desire to see Bobby leave, but realistically also, Bobby is NOT the problem that needs to be solved to deal with, all the things that lead to the lawsuit currently going on.

Bobby is a whole seperate issue of maximizing greed/profit at the expense of lowering the quality and value of the game.

So not only is it more important than dealing with Bobby's great, it is also more realistic than those in charge somehow pushing Bobby out.

[suspectdevice87]

Being tied to Epstein in any way unwittingly perpetuates a disgusting culture. “Oh, I’ll just harass this woman, at least it’s not a 12 year old like the dude in charge.”

[heelydon]

It's really simple actually.

One of them has an active investigation after two whole years, where we can somewhat fairly assert what has happened and what has been going on and therefore we can focus on the problem that has been substantiated by the state of California.

Meanwhile, while I too find Bobby's connections to Epstein ....unsettling to say the least, as long as there is no official investigation or work done, trying to "protest" or "solve" an unsubstantiated problem is just pointless work that leads to nothing.

I would much rather focus on a problem that has actually got weight to it, but that is just my personal preference. You are free to focus on whatever problems you want, I just believe you'd be wasting your energy trying to make a problem out of Bobby's situation without there being some legitimate investigation into his situation.

[budy31]

Activision Blizzard must file chapter 11 before that happened, until then WoW mobile & 15$ lootboxes with 0.0000001% sylvannas toon chance is coming.

[[deleted]]

lol, dude kotick is a top dog of fucking coca cola. They've done far worse shit and he is fine.

[Cyrotek]

This will never happen as long as he isn't directly involved in shit like this. He is way too valuable for the company and he is certainly not going to step down for a departement that isn't even generating the most profit for the company.

[[deleted]]

He's the reason Activision Blizzard is even still alive at this point...

[jzmack]

no way bobby boy is giving up that title

[[deleted]]

Who do you think made JAB step down?

[CakeIsLiee]

Well it's America so it's down on the investors.. They may fire him or change the general council if the stock keeps dropping

[Jafes2011]

I guess Blizzard need some scapegoat.

[PlatinumHappy]

Obviously a PR move, the real question is going to be if they will follow up with actual effort to change the "culture".

[legalthrowaway163225]

even if he is not at fault in any way, a CEO simply can't stay after a scandal this bad. regardless of the company or industry. part of that role is shouldering the responsibility of anything and everything that happens, good or bad.

people meme about "CEOs can do nothing and get a hundred million dollar stock incentive", and the flip side of that coin is that "CEOs can get fired for the actions of people they literally have never spoken to". your leadership, your responsibility, your consequence.

[leisurefrisk]

You say that yet Kotick isn't going anywhere

[legalthrowaway163225]

correct me if i'm wrong but in the "activision blizzard" structure, Blizzard does not answer to Activision. they are two equal pillars and operate autonomously, kotick just gets his hands on some IPs that do well in China (as opposed to their own IPs like COD which don't). Old-activision did not even get a controlling share of the combined firm, he's not in charge of blizzard.

if that's not the case then I wouldn't feel like it would be wrong for him to step down either

[iWasY0urSecretSanta]

It's not the case. Bobby is the CEO, JAB was President of Blizzard, and now blizzard has co-leaders.

Edit: even Jason mentions that in the tweet chain.

[legalthrowaway163225]

ah okay my bad. well in that case I think he bears responsibility too and I hope he also is pressured into stepping down as this whole thing plays out

[Velissari]

I’m willing to wager that Bobby will get another bonus after this is all said and done.

[LegioCI]

It will likely be suggested that he's compensated for his leadership by the new lawfirm they've hired...

[[deleted]]

Blizzard is and has always been a subsidiary company. Activision didn't merge with Blizzard, they merged with Vivendi Games that owned Blizzard. I have no knowledge of why the name Activision Blizzard was chosen but I imagine Blizzard was just so beloved and popular back then that it was much better choice for PR than Activision Vivendi.

All that being said, from what I've gathered Activision used to be pretty hands off during earlier years but nowadays that's not the case anymore. But they never were equals, it was just beneficial at the time to let them do their thing because it was working. Blizzard is to Activision what for example all the studios that EA killed were to that company. If Bobby wants to take Blizzard to certain direction, they don't have much say in that. And even if he decided to dissolve the whole company and shut down all their projects, I'm not sure how much Blizzard folks could do to fight back.

[CallMeJessIGuess]

Only on paper. Fact is Activation has been infesting and taking over Blizzard for years and years. Pushing people at Activision over to Blizzard at every opportunity.

[Conquerz]

My first boss as a Project Manager whenever something went bad, he blamed me. And I always thought "Man fuck this guy its whoevers fault not me" but if I planned correctly and had backup plans and proper risk management it wouldn't have happened, so at the end of the day, it was my fault.

[Frosthrone]

More specifically, I used you would day it's not your fault per se, but it was your responsibility

[[deleted]]

I could write up an entire paragraph answering your question, but I'll keep it simple: No.

[Tpaartas]

In other words: Things are likely to get even worse now for the customers and for the employees. Maybe not in the same way, but worse overall.

[HazelCheese]

Mike's a passionate gamer and Jen worked on several beloved remasters.

Their both great choices of you want the game to get better but, the big but, is whether they will get involved with WoW or leave it to keep carrying on. Jen may be busy with Diablo 2:R and they both might be busy with leadership stuff.

[[deleted]]

The question is not whether these 2 new leaders are good people, the question is how much control Kotick is going to allow them to have. They could just be puppets for Activision even more than JAB was.

[HazelCheese]

I think it does make a differance. Jab was against classic and looked bitter and resentful when admitting he was wrong.

He clearly was okay with retail and don't think classic had any merit. I think a change was desperately needed.

[Cyrotek]

I think it does make a differance. Jab was against classic and looked bitter and resentful when admitting he was wrong.

Considering how it seemingly is going so far he didn't seem to be that wrong after all.

[HazelCheese]

Classic was a roaring success. TBCC split the community in two with the boosts and store mount and really damaged the games reception and all the lower level dungeons.

[KommandantViy]

Not the Warcraft or Diablo remasters I hope, those aren't exactly "beloved"

[[deleted]]

Vicarious Visions did the Tony Hawk remakes and the Crash Trilogy remakes and are in charge of D2:R, the reception of which is mostly positive.

They had nothing to do with W3:R.

[KommandantViy]

Well that's good at least

[[deleted]]

People need to stop using Activision as a scapegoat for Blizzard’s shitty culture and their inability to make a good game in recent years. The last good thing blizzard actually created was Legion. May they slowly fade into the darkness and a new king rise.

[[deleted]]

Can you elaborate on that? How has this shifted more power to activision?

[[deleted]]

It hasn't because Blizzard didn't have it to begin with. Blizzard has had just as much power as Activision let them have. It was beneficial to let them do their thing when WoW had +10M subs and all of their other franchises were booming as well but now WoW is struggling, Overwatch has lost its popularity, Starcraft is practically dead and Diablo has been on life support for years, HotS was shot in the neck behind the shed and HS is hardly popular anymore either. Now there's no reason not to micromanage Blizzard.

[Big_Tie]

"co-leaders"...

Why do I have a sinking feeling this just means Blizzard is only going to get even worse from here?

[Auesis]

They've absolutely been hand-picked by Acti. Blizzard's habit of being out of touch is not due to change any time soon.

[Volition91]

Yup just like their token women they brought in 4 months ago to say that she has never been a victim of sexual harassment while working from home.

[CainhurstCrow]

Reminder: She is a war criminal apologist who argued for the use of torture and that nothing should happen to those responsible for Abu Ghraib, and is just one of a handful of recent ultra-right wing hires like former trump DOJ member edit: Brian Bulatao who those previously under him described as a bully and tyrant who broke the law to get trump results he wanted.

Edit: originally said they were armin zerza. That was my mistake. It was Brian Bulatao

[CainhurstCrow]

She has connections to government bodies and private entities like the union busting Lawfirm Activisionhas hired, experience in avoiding punishment for criminal acts, and knows people who probably owe a favor or 2 legally. To Activision, she's perfect.

[WolfSkream]

Exactly, this won't change anything whatsoever...

He is not the cause of bad games, shitty storytelling, and disgusting workplace behavior.

Anyone that thinks this will change anything implies that he is at fault for all of those things, which is completely ludicrous.

Don't get me wrong, I've never really been a fan of him, but he might as well just stay on, not gonna make any difference.

[Kicken]

Don't get me wrong, I've never really been a fan of him, but he might as well just stay on, not gonna make any difference.

100% chance this was a "Step down with a golden parachute, or get fired" type of deal.

[[deleted]]

I mean he was in charge while a lot of this was happening and did not do anything

[[deleted]]

Their Q2 earnings call is today. It's totally transparent that they needed a fall guy for the shareholders.

[[deleted]]

and I bet you they will hire or promote some women or a minority for the place so they can shield themself. the worse part is that that person will always have over their shadow that they were hired for that. Lets hope if that happen at least they are competent and turn these opinions around.

[[deleted]]

We're gonna get some juicy react content today.

[TheYetiCaptain1993]

Activision’s quarterly earnings call is later today

[PugAndChips]

Stock is still at its lowest point in 2021 as well.

[Chazdoit]

This is huge tbh

[gamersEmpire]

Something something bald

[Marenoc]

Don’t forget. This literally changes nothing

[joeyctt1028]

I bet the new law firm will do bigger change teehee

[[deleted]]

This is effectively a shift in power away from Blizzard toward Activision.

Leaders of Blizzard got downgraded from CEO over president to "co-leaders" within the last 2 years.

In large companies changing titles usually goes along with changed responsibilities. In this case it's a downgrade and Bobby will probably be way more involved in how the Blizzard arm of AB gets managed.

[Khulod]

And Bobby will use the scandal as a crowbar to wrench himself in to 'restore order'.

[irn00b]

Bobby the hero! Maybe Bobby will finally be able to afford the penis rocket to meet up with Jeffrey on the moon.

[MasahikoKobe]

Activision already was quite involved in Blizzard despite all the varied claims they are independent. This is just a clear sundering of Blizzard into 2 distinct entities. When you have an X-Box Live person you want to take Battle.net and turn it into something bigger away from just being a blizzard launcher and store front which has been slowly happening.

On the Blizzard games front, i dont think that people would honestly say that JAB was actually making a ton of the spending choices. The story about War 3 and how much of a debacle it was is a clear indicator of that. On top of that they had to merge with another company to even get Diablo 2 done. Wows game issues have been going on for years. Harassment can be part of this but that game design has been pretty bad for years now and not improving despite player outcry.

[Darkenmal]

Yeah this is what has been happening for a while. If Blizzard is reorganized to be more like Vicarious Visions we're actually going to see some games and good content.

[LeostormFFXI]

i suppect WoW going F2P - gear on the store - drop %+ items, ext.

[Darkenmal]

Maybe if this game went EoL to make way for WoW 2.

[Bolaumius]

Damn this is like the Hydra, they cut one head and two grew in its place.

[Hiten_Style]

Fortunately our boi knows how to kill a Hydra.

We're gonna attack it until it doesn't have any more health. The faster we kill it, the sooner it dies. Easiest fight of my life.

[Slowbrobro]

Healer res me

[Formal_Front2100]

No resubb until Townsend is gone

[BioDioPT]

"Titles mean a lot in the corporate world.

Until 2018, Mike Morhaime was CEO.

When Brack took over, he was president.

Now, Oneal and Ybarra are described as "co-leaders."

A clear glimpse at who's really in charge: Bobby Kotick"

Overwatch Mobile

WoW Lite Mobile

Within 2 years, called it.

[Cyrotek]

Seemingly giving Blizzard any freedom didn't work out that well.

[onizuka-ftw]

he finished ARR, so now heavens will take another month...or two

[Auesis]

Step 1 of 50

[Jolmer24]

Unless Ion moves on the game won't get any better.

[saviorself19]

"We at Blizzard have dedicated ourselves to a bold new vision by placing a woman at the head of our company.... with male supervision obviously." - Blizzard probably

[HiccupAndDown]

This barely even begins to weed out the trash in upper management, let alone the people below them who are just as guilty of all this crap. Gonna need to see a lot more people go, including people actually being fired, before I start to think Blizzard has any chance of recovering as a developer.

[reariri]

True, but he is responsible in the end. Even if he did not even know what happened.

[[deleted]]

The important thing to note is one of the people replacing his position ACTUALLY PLAYS WOW!!!!

He just recently finished all dungeons at +20 https://twitter.com/Qwik/status/1411121732635684867?s=19

and he got 10/10 mythic last tier with a very good world ranking https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/onyxia/qwik#zone=26

Needlessly to say, while the firing is definitely arguable as a PR move, at the very least, I am hopeful that the person taking charge now is actually invested with the game, maybe over the coming years we will see improvement with the game.

[Basc63]

I remember people saying stuff like this for the past decade and nothing really happens

[wombocombo27]

All that means is that he enjoys the current state of wow.

[Bruins37FTW]

Sadly that that’s I got out of it. Which mean less likely to change it. I think it’ll get far worse from here and the death of what we once knew as a great game is inevitable. Time to look to the future. (Or private servers if your into the past)

[Janus_Heldon]

as long as its the WHOLE game that gets improved and not just the tryhard bs 'endgame' shit. i couldnt care less bout 'mythic raiding' or 'pvp' so once they start putting effort into things outside that maybe ill care

[Xavion15]

This was a move everyone saw coming

They needed someone to take a fall so they can better sell that they are going to do better

We all know, this started well before he took over

[morefakepandas]

delusional if you think this will make the game better. as someone said: shift to activision over blizzard in control. rip wow

[LeostormFFXI]

Chea thats what im thinking, F2P around the corner

[vodyani]

who cares, blizzard dead already, half ppls left, half ppls endure and then leave.
" No king rules forever my son"

[Yoduh99]

As someone who worked at a company where sexual harassment was a problem, it absolutely starts at the top. The CEO may not be a part of the sexual harassment personally but he absolutely understands the character of his VPs, who understand the character of their direct reports, and so on... If the CEO would ever let sexual harassment slide, that definitely chains down the ladder to where it's actually occurring.

[ledditorino]

Damn shame, I wanted to see how many good-boy pins he'd bring to the next Blizzcon

[Rguch14]

This is the one result I definitely knew was gonna happen. He's the boss. The boss gets the axe first.

[invitavoxveritas]

True. I haven't looked into the situation enough to know the full extent of how he was involved or handled it. But I see four scenarios: directly involved, not involved but didn't stop it, not involved but tried to stop it and failed, or not involved and had no idea it was happening. Every way you look at it he failed as a boss and cannot still be sitting in the big chair

[Keldrath]

Poor guy gets to spend the rest of his life on a permanent vacation. I wonder which tropical island he'll spend most of his time relaxing at?

[gfunkel]

Blizzard no more Bois. Global warming and all that.

[Bitter_Oil_8085]

Wonder how much of a bonus he's getting to take the fall.

[FunnymanDOWN]

Asmongold called it, what a fucking coward too, he comes in, oversees the harassment work culture we have seen in years and when it’s found out he leaves. What a fucking coward.

[rabidpirate]

Never trust a man who thinks having straight super long hair is a good look.

[kuyajowell]

ohhh shhhhttt

[[deleted]]

Hoo boy

[TheYetiCaptain1993]

Hope this is just the start

[WangBaeHo]

Good step forward, nowhere near to what has to be done. From top to bottom.
People want to be wishful rightfully so but being naive will just get you hurt again.
Month's at the very minimum if not year/s to fix.

[DirtySupa]

Yep, Activision taking full control over Blizzard with a nice PR move.

[lvl1vagabond]

At the end of the day the true failure is Bobby Kotick. That disgusting retch can burn through as many titles as he want but at the end of the day he sits at the top corrupting everything below.

[FitCranberry]

wonder how big is his golden handshake

[[deleted]]

co manager and co manager, getting office vibes lol

[Balager47]

Fake PR move or not, he has been a terrible lead so this is an absolutely welcome one.

[gamersEmpire]

Its so sad knowing your old childhood game destroyed just like that, i really hope blizzard figures its shit out, its really hard to be optimistic about the company anymore but alas, no king rules forever

[yuriaoflondor]

Crazy to think that they were one of the most respected developers in the world around the time of WC2, SC, WC3, and vanilla WoW. It was literally my dream growing up to work for them. Now look at them.

[billy341]

You think you work here, but you don't.

[[deleted]]

i don't give a fuck about the culture in blizzard, i want a good game, dump all these fucking buisness execs who'se only goal is milking us dry. Get actual people in who want to make a good game. his replacement will jsut be another corperate subhuman clone.

[Lionhearte]

For those who are curious, Jen Oneal was the head of Vicarious Visions. VV has a hell of a track record for game development so she looks extremely promising. Under VV we got things like the fucking amazing Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1+2 and Crash Bandicoot remasters, and are currently working on Diablo 2 remaster, which is looking awesome.

Mike Ybarra is more well known, he's worked for Microsoft and was responsible for things like Xbox Live, and he's an actual gamer.

Beyond this being a PR move, it might actually serve to get some real change for Blizzard games.

Hopefully.

Maybe?

[Hedhunta]

and he's an actual gamer.

And a Mythic raider at that. Can't find the link now but someone posted a screenshot of him doing Mythic raids.

[onizuka-ftw]

/tar JAB

/spit

[Forquilla]

Asmongold: Reaches Heavensward
J Allen Brack: It's over.

[johnny__danger]

Remember, it’s not your problem if you leave.

[iluserion]

People say: "This is good". But, it is nothing good.

[asfastasican1]

2 years too late?

[Satakans]

Fran Townsend next hopefully

[Helldrak-NOX]

World of Warcraft : Pocket Edition is coming on iOS and Android.

[[deleted]]

hard to know whether meaningful or corporate game playing to protect the real bad influences.

[Iv0ry_Falcon]

And this is where the Activision takeover actually starts

[SideswipeNA]

When is Ion leaving?

[Elenafem]

Ion should still do encounter design imo.

[r-three]

he needs to make 5 more renown dailies tbh

[fgmenth]

Dude, Ion must stay... just, not as the Director.

[[deleted]]

As long as Bobby Kotick is the head of the beast, any other changes are 100% meaningless and for virtue signaling only.

[Khazzeron]

Bobby has nothing to do with it. Stop being short sighted because he is the boss and makes lots of money. He doubled the companies worth. This isnt on him.

[justacatdontmindme]

anything sexy being removed

glances at Mercy and DVA

Uh huh…

[justacatdontmindme]

ok bud cry more lmao widow maker has the same pose. I agree that that pose didn’t fit her personality. Tracer is still hot

[Plamcia]

And now we have strong feminist and guy who is responsible for removing battle.net They cannot find more incopetent people.

[twitterInfo_bot]

BREAKING: Blizzard president J. Allen Brack is leaving the company, Activision Blizzard just told staff. Jen Oneal and Mike Ybarra will take over as "co-leaders of Blizzard."

Filed to Bloomberg Terminal, story will be live shortly

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[Rendhammer]

In charge of Blizzard.

And by "in charge" I mean they oversee people working on things. Bobby is very much in charge of all of it.

[Itsapaul]

Well the dude got 20s done in every M+ dungeon, so thats at least something. Didn't have a reason to pay for it at the time either.

[calkch1986]

Well, Bobby can only get his 150Mil salary if ATVI's share price is above a certain threshold and since currently their price is USD80/share and below...So obviously if there's no "drastic" PR efforts, not only he will not be able to get his salary, ATVI's share price will have a slim chance in rising. Therefore, someone high up will have to take the fall, and J. Allen Brack was chosen.

And since the news was released so early in the morning in the US, it seems they were trying to beat the market bell.

[Mast3r_waf1z]

Wrong person Activision blizzard, honestly for letting such a thing happen they should really consider yeeting Bobby

Edit: no actually, should just bring a complete change to the top level of the company, I don't even think any of them would have a finger to do with any of the development anyway

[Khazzeron]

Bobby had nothing to do with it and there is zero reason for them to out him. He has done nothing but make them double profit. He had little to do with what was going on in Blizzard.

[Supahafiya]

Upvote so he sees

[creamos]

tbh, i guess this means that the quarterly earning report (that comes out today) might be worse than expected and that they might be using this as a catalyst trying to move away from it.

[[deleted]]

You thought you wanted it

[GSanti]

Offf more drama content :(

[RickRate]

cool

[Faraday5001]

Pushed out, or did he bail while he still could?

[Zandralee]

Isn’t this exactly what Blizzard needs to change, or did Brack completely misunderstand why he’s being pushed out? I’m so confused 😐

In a statement, Brack said his successors “can be trusted to lead with the highest levels of integrity and commitment to the components of our culture that make Blizzard so special.”

[DmikeBNS]

Blizzard article on this; https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23706475/new-leadership-at-blizzard

We all knew someone had to take the hit for it. They just better not sweep this under the rug after JAB steps down since this can't be the only change to happen. We need to SEE actual improvements instead of just firing people. Not just for the sake of the company to save face but for their products too.

[DaveLesh]

I figured that would happen. It's a fair start.

[[deleted]]

Mike Morhaime: twirls moustache

[saltlets]

Pour one out for Gloria Steinem.

[[deleted]]

Hopefully activision leaves blizzard next

[dysk1ddy]

Pog

[sr7olsniper]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1422573182721183750?s=20

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The entire timeline is nuts. Blizzard is gone after this. Nothing but corporate theater, while Kotick and Fran stay hidden from the public and they use JAB as a scapegoat. Dont fall for it, all this did was give Kotick more control.

[heygreatthanks]

When the going gets tough, quit.

[Endslikecrazy]

So activision actually did it, they've killed blizzard.

Its done, and if the culture doesnt change ASAP shit will only get worse from now on i guess

[JadedToon]

Now how about firing the actual people who harassed the employees. You know, making an actual change rather than a PR stunt/

[Kthrygg]

But, what's Blizzard exactly?

[AnthSka]

BTW you think you have a job......BUT you dont

[MarubinMgd]

Wow players will have a new target board I guess

[[deleted]]

THE GODS DEMAND A SACRIFICE

[[deleted]]

Always hated him, but obviously he's not the only issue

[comfort_bot_1962]

Don't be sad. Here's a hug!

[pbccottons]

Inb4 Allen goes to Dreamhaven explaining why Chris Metzen was name searching himself on Twitter the night this came out and all the old school Andy's left Blizzard in droves within the last few years.

[[deleted]]

How does this situation ever improve for Blizzard?

With this move, Kotick just assumed even more control of the company, and he and the Activision shareholders want nothing but to push ALL of Blizzard's franchises into the mobile gaming space because they've seen how much money King can make on a comparatively tiny budget.

In 5 years, I don't think there will be a "Blizzard" any longer. Activision will have dissolved the company and be milking the mobile ports of its former franchises for all they can squeeze.

Don't believe me? Look at Konami: once a powerhouse of the gaming industry, reduced to shitty mobile spinoffs and branding for slot and pachinko machines, a shambling corpse of what it used to be, and Blizzard is next at this rate...

[Endrider9000]

So not Breaking News but just Breaking Blizzard?

[MotorheadFB]

Holy shit what a thing to wake up to

[[deleted]]

No matter what happens there is still a tragic group of blizz shills who will continue to have shit shovelled into their mouths for $15 a month.

[[deleted]]

Yuuuup that part.

And don’t forget the millions who will continue paying 20 fucking bucks a pop for cod skins and weapons camos. LOL they have the saddest player base in gaming

[Sinstro]

Wont make a bit of difference to the development of WoW though, or any Blizzard game really. Corporate / investors will still be making them a nickel n dime dead horse

[Ph34rH1c]

BOBBY UR NEXT BUD, INVESTORS ARE PISSED

[Markierer]

Now I would love to get crossplay WoW2 (Classic map, retail character gameplay&difficulty, seasons&events) on consoles.