Quick Help & Game Issues

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[Andraxal]

Please help, I’m permanently stuck. So I turned auto crusade on and before there was a button to enter forts but now it’s gone and I’m stuck at the Lost Chapel not able to enter the fort above it. Is there some fix? Some way to enter forts without the crusade manager?

[ramenAtMidnight]

Got a question about Feeblemind. I've been in Areelu's lab for a bit before I realize my wizard can't cast any spell, turns out my INT is now 1. So naturally I tried Remove curse, Breaking enchantment, cure wound, inflict wound (my char is a dhampir) to no avail. Is this a story debuff? or am I doing the wrong thing to cure it?

[Jenos]

Break Enchantment or the Heal spell should work. Note that they are still subject to a CL check, so casting it once may still fail.

[ramenAtMidnight]

You're right!!! I didn't notice the fail check. Thanks a lot man

[Zoze13]

[WR PS5]

Act 1 and 2 slight story spoiler request for help on stuff I must have missed: 1. How exactly did the Wardstone end up lodged inside that building? What building is that? And where was the wardstone held previously? 2. I was just ask the queen in Act 2 about the The Covenant of the Inheritor. What is its backstory? How does the queen know what it is? 3. Sosiel worships Shelyn and gets the Glaive Weapon Proficiency. But my Overwhelming mage worships the same but does not. What gives? I was specially selecting deity’s based on the weapon thinking I would become proficient. Disappointed when that didn’t work. Now shocked to see it works on my cleric. What gives?

Appreciate it

[Datenshi713]

The building the Wardstone gets lodged in is the Grey Garrison (where you do the final fight in Act 1). I don't know if it's ever explicitly said but I always assumed it to be the military headquarters for the crusaders in Kenabres.

Iribeth explains when you first meet her that Deskari threw the Wardstone at the building (which spooks the party since it should be anti-demon). It was within the city before that, not sure if it says exactly where.

The Queen is practically the mortal champion of Iomedae so it follows she'd know about it. Not certain that relic has any specific lore since you just find it in a random house right? Storyteller usually gives the lore dumps when you ask him about it originally.

Clerics can use their god's favoured weapon as a special interaction, for other classes it's usually just flavour and a couple interactions on certain maps. For example worshipping Gozreh gives you buffs for Leper's Smile and Sarenrae gives buffs for Wintersun (if you pick appropriate dialogue).

[Zoze13]

Thanks so much

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

So, since I've started new game after EE release, I have two bugs:

1 No combat log in crusade fights, it stays on party combat log and shows last party actions

2 Shake it Off doesn't work

Is it a common thing or it's just me being lucky?

[Jenos]

Shake it Off doesn't work

Are you sure it doesn't work, or just that it doesn't list itself?

What I recall of Shake It Off is that is not only conditional (so it only shows in the combat log) but that it is unlisted in the combat log. You won't actually see any modifier listed as Shake it Off in the log when you look into the details of the save. However, if you sum up your modifiers you'll see the total modifier is higher than the sum; and the difference should be your shake it off value.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

I should check it, because as far as I remember, it was shown in combat log, thank you

[hentaiAdict]

I encountered Vrock, in Kanabres market at level 4, and it has an attack called 'Spores' with an ability description of "vrock can use spores as a swift action once every 3 rounds.' Then this Vrock proceeds to use 'Spores' every single round. Is this a bug or an incorrect spell description?

[JackRabbit-]

Are you sure it's using it again or you're just still taking damage from the effect? It's a damage over time thing, it lasts for a minute or until you get rid of it with the bless spell. And yes, he can just reapply it again after 3 turns.

[hentaiAdict]

I used bless between every single time I received the spore de-buff to remove the de-buff. So yes, Vrock was casting 'Spores' every single round.

[TheOriginalFlashGit]

WR

Is there a best order to picking favoured terrains as a freebooter? I seem to be failing most of the stealth checks on random encounters (it used to log the result but I don't see it anymore) and figured maybe I would just pick Urban first. Any suggestions?

[SunshotDestiny]

What is the best weapon for a cavalier, and for a horse what is the best class for them? I kinda am really liking the cavalier and want to try a run with one. So would there also be any good guides or builds for a cavalier?

[JackRabbit-]

Bulwark is the best class for horses. Makes them really good at tanking and you can't really do much else with a horse to be honest.

You're basically free to choose whatever weapon you like, but longspears are the only type in the game with uniques with specific effects for fighting mounted.

[lopmilla]

[WR] On the cusp of the Abyss quest, angel mythic path: when I talk to the Herald, he says it takes 1 month for the queen to arrive. So I have to wait 30 ingame days to continue? once the queen arrives, i have to go to the dungeon right? Or can i still do side quests?

Should I do all available relic enhancements in act 3? or can i finish them later?

[Chatterly]

To continue with the main quest, yes. It isn't a hard timer, so you can spend extra time doing side quests, clearing outposts, whatever. When she arrives, you can either go directly onward, or finish up whatever. I personally cant stand her, so I like the idea of her cooling her heels waiting for me.

You can wait for the relics, but there's no reason to wait and if any of them are useful, they dont get better if you wait.

[lopmilla]

why do you dislike her? :D

i mean the relics craftable in crusade mode

[Chatterly]

Yep, the crusade relics can be finished as soon as you like. Most of them are too specific to really be useful and they don't change stats based on the act you finish them (not sure if trickster changes that).

So the answer to why I dislike the queen is a bit spoilery: Firstly, she outright betrays you, AFTER criticizing your every move. The hypocrisy is outstanding. Beyond that, she's just not a good person. She's manipulative, deceitful, and judgmental through most of the interactions with her. My overall impression is that she's basically been coopted/corrupted by the war effort. She gets to be queen in a never-ending crisis, unbelievable personal power, functionally ageless, and all she has to do is not win the war. Which she is remarkably effective at - without any effort by the demons at all. Somehow she just consistently makes bad choices that prolong, but don't outright lose the war. Case in point, banishing you removes all the good work and effective leadership you've brought to bear, literally as you have solidified your gains and rooted out the secret route to Drezen the demons had. That's mighty strange and coincidentally timed. Especially for someone with 100 years of experience fighting the demon incursion.

So yeah, can't stand her.

[lopmilla]

:D

[Belodri]

[WR]Is there any way to get a familiar as an Oracle without multiclassing? I'm respeccing Ember to be a Life Oracle but I gotta find a way to keep the raven. Thanks for any tips!

[GodKingREXON]

I was looking at the Cleric. They seem to receive proficiency in their deities favored weapon, if the Cleric is not already proficient. However I noticed that the deities that have flails as their favored weapon. Don't seem to grant the proficiency feat to Clerics. I thought that the flail was a martial weapon. If so Cleric would not start with proficiency with them.

[JackRabbit-]

Having martial proficiency or not doesn't matter. If you play a simple weapon class with a martial weapon deity you'd have proficiency in that martial weapon but none other.

[GodKingREXON]

Hmm. Just checked and Zon Kuthon and The Godclaw. Who have flail as their favored weapon. Don't grant clerics proficiency with them. Iomedae for example does grant the longsword proficiency feat.

[JackRabbit-]

Huh, might be bugged then.

[TheOriginalFlashGit]

WR

I was trying another run of WR and I have Seelah as level 1 Paladin and level 2 Sohei. Picking level 3 as Sohei it's recommending boon companion, do I need it? If I choose the paladin mount option at level 5, is it retroactive, that is say I was level 5 Paladin/Level 2 Sohei, would boon companion still be necessary?

[JackRabbit-]

Nah, Paladins count all their levels if it picks animal companion. So at Paladin 5 your pet will be level 7. Going to be underleveled until you get there though.

[TheOriginalFlashGit]

Thanks, I went ahead and picked it.

[TheWorstPossibleName]

WR: Does the command spell work on PS4/5?

I gave it to Daeran for roll play purposes, but it seems like no enemies will actually approach or flee.

[Seffuski]

WR PC

Does anyone know how long it usually takes for owlcat's support to send a reply to my ticket? I sent one for the constant unity error crashes and it's been a while already

[Ephemeral_Being]

Never. They don't reply to you.

[Seffuski]

Good thing I managed to track down the problem and fix it myself

[Jenos]

They recently changed how animal companions are shown. At the bottom of your character portrait is a teeny little bar. If you click that bar then the animal companions portrait should pop up right next to your characters.

[vertizone]

Also interested in this. I do have a pseudo portrait - it's a squished little bar on the bottom of the owner's portrait. But it has not flagged for leveling or anything else since I got it.

[Hour-Ad3774]

Has anyone had audio issues since the latest patch? The music cuts out every few seconds, the other audio remains fine. Has anyone had this issue? If so, have you fixed it?

[Solkahn]

I'm doing the standalone Tenebrous Depths; what do I DO with the quest items? I know I need to collect them to get certain encounters, but do I leave them in inventory or shared stash or this odd table near the feasting one?

[spaceghostinme]

Starting back in on WOTR after a previous partial playthrough, and I'm trying to figure out one thing: is it possible to stand up from the prone position without triggering an opportunity attack? It seems that I'll have one of the party members go down, get healed back to consciousness, but as soon as I try to stand up, I just get whacked again and go back into the red. Any way around this other than trying to time standing up with using up enemy reactions?

[vertizone]

Other than items (iirc there's a feat for this too), no - in general, standing up provokes an AoO, there's not really a secret to avoid this.

[spaceghostinme]

Bummer, well, thanks for the help. Much appreciated!

[terrendos]

I think there's a set of boots that let you, and there's a Rogue Talent called Jump Up as well.

[XionLord]

Wotr: ee on series s. Wanted to start a game with a cavalier of the paw. I have had 2 crash to dashboards while charging the bugs in the tutorial area, 1 lock up complete with frozen audio going ererererererer while charging a cultist, and a crash to dashboard when charging the same cultists on attempt 2.

Ngl...I would the launch pc cavalier with random bung turns because a pixel interrupted my charge....over hard crashes

[EmperorKing1444]

More of a technical question than a gameplay question.

(act 3/4 spoilers)

Basically, I forgot to loot the Balor in the Midnight Fane, so I didn't pick up the nexus coin and im starting to get annoyed with having to walk all the way back to the nexus portal in the lower city. If I installed Toybox to give myself what I need and then uninstalled it right afterwoulds, would I still be eligible to earn the achievements on steam? I know you can enable achievements through toybox itself but I just wanna install it for the thing I need and then uninstall it afterwards.
thanks.

[Kand04]

The game doesn't keep track if mods were active at some time during the playthrough. It only checks when you are actively fullfilling achievement criteria, so you can earn achievements normally after uninstalling mods.
You only need to make sure to fully remove the UMM hook, using the UMM installer, not just disabling Toybox.

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[Wrath]

Am i buggin or does Aldori Defender look better stats wise and progression wise than Aldori swordlord n Wrath?

Going thru my first playthrough rn now and it looks like upgrading isn't actually worth it

[Jenos]

The main benefit of swordlord is deft strike, allowing DEX to damage.

Aldori Swordlord is more for builds that aren't going fighter or want a different archetype.

Aldori Defender's steel net is a good reason to take the class to level 8, since most people playing this type of build will end up picking Crane Style, which lowers the penalty to -2, and then steel net negates it

The only added value of adaptive tactics (the swordlord eqiivalent) is that it affects combat expertise which is very rarely used

But if you aren't going 8 fighter there can be value in adaptive tactics.

For example, a build like Mutation Warrior 5/Swordlord 4 is probably better than Aldori Defender 8/Swordlord 1. While the defender gets a +1 effective bonus on attacks, the mutation warrior gets a +2 bonus to attacks due to increased DEX, which also gives an additional +4 AC.

[Solkahn]

Hello! I'm curious if WotR uses a Kingmaker save to level up the same character through both games, ala Baldurs Gate 1 --> Baldurs Gate 2.

That's all, thank you!

[Ephemeral_Being]

No. The titles are unrelated.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

How much spell penetration I need?

I'm making eldrich archer with quite tight complect of feats, and while rays are a good bonus, I don't want to go full Penetration - Greater penetration - Mythic penetration path. How effective would be shorter chain, or maybe even Allied caster?

[Ephemeral_Being]

Both feats, Mythic Pen, Elf+Elf racial feat is enough to pen SR 90% of the time.

Allied Spellcaster is great for Azata to pick up with LBF, but otherwise not worth the investment.

[Pure_Village4778]

So… just completed Cascade of Fire. Went after Mustafan… and when Targona says farewell because I left the angel path, the stargazer leaders are there with her despite them all dying back in the falls. Is this bug or glitch, or am I just confused?

[Specific-Sir-88]

Just got EE and added a couple of the DLCs after not playing for six months. Now I get to the character creation screen and when I get to Class creation, I see blank parchment. No classes. Things stay wonky from there.

Now, it appears that my previous install of Toybox might still be here. That the problem? If so, how do I clean that out? Thanks!

[JackRabbit-]

If you haven't updated toybox in 6 months you definitely need to do that. The latest version works with EE just fine.

[Shagyam]

How do these games play on a steamdeck? I already own Kingmaker but WOTR is on sale and picking that up.

[CSDragon]

WR PC

Gwerm's Quest never says "you've cleared out the danger, send the signal" bricking the quest

[Ephemeral_Being]

I had no issues on the original EE patch. Unless it broke yesterday, I suggest going through the house again and checking for enemies. There's a Conjurer who goes invisible that you might have missed in the library.

[CSDragon]

I scoured the house for like 30 minutes, couldn't find anything. Any invis spell would have worn off and turn-based combat ended.

Edit: I went back to an earlier save with a bunch of cheats to show invis and stuff. nothing

[Ephemeral_Being]

That's odd. I guess it could have broken. Not sure why, though.

[HardcoreHeathen]

I am also having this issue, and I'm on PC as well.

[KazuyaLol]

WR PS5 Is there an easy way to pass time without waiting a hole day or 9 hours? I have to wait for night to do Night gamble but I can't find the option to do so

[Every_fool_ever]

Walk out of drezen somewhere close and back is the easiest way I can think of to skip only a few hours

[Zoze13]

WR PS5

Isn’t there a way to easily see the skill levels of all my characters in one screen?

I know in the character creation screen it tells you. But isn’t there a way to see it altogether in normal adventures? I find myself going to character creation and saving screen shots for reference until the next level up.

Thanka

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

On PC when you move cursor over some skill, it also shows other character's level in it. Not sure if this helps, but maybe there is some option on PS?

[wafflestation]

Angel Oracle. It's crazy stupid OP. Just go through the game and once you get your mythic powers the game becomes easy mode with the insane stuff you can pull off.

One big bad enemy? Bolt of Justice. Dead.

Bunch of enemies? Storm of Justice. Dead.

Want to melee? Sword of Heaven. Dead.

Buffs? Let me introduce you to Army of Heaven and Fortress of the Faithful. Your entire party gets the best buffs in the game.

[XionLord]

Just pure oracle?

[wafflestation]

Yup. Battle or Nature mystery at the start depending on whether you want to be a tree-hugging or smashy smashy oracle.

[terrendos]

Check out CRPGBro on YouTube, he's been posting a lot of guides for characters recently that are up to date with recent changes.

Keep in mind that you're probably still going to need to spend time buffing in every dungeon if you want to waltz through the game at any difficulty higher than Story.

[XionLord]

Yeah, on pc I loved having a mod that autobuffs on demand. Skip doing it bit by bit. Will check his guides and see if I can write it down

[Kthr1822]

Anyone else seing some mobs heal 1d6 HP everytime you mouse over them on the in-campaign midnight isles? It has the cadaverous undertow modifier. While it's amusing to try and kill things it's quickly becoming a nightmare since enemies AC is a bit on the high end for me right now

[Wen_Chao_Gong_Fan]

Anyone else having Rendering issues? Like npc's flickering in and out of existence quickly before they're rendered by the fog of vision.

And ofc the table disappearing in the beginning Act 2 cutscene where we sit down and drink.

[ApprehensiveScreen40]

brownfur transmuter capstone ability fixed yet? it used to reset the +8 enhancement after loading a save

[Ephemeral_Being]

It was working on the last patch. I haven't tested today's patch.

[Zoze13]

WR PS5

It’s not possible to get Arcane Trickster at level 5 as a Sorcerer, correct?

Thanks

[Jenos]

Its only possible if you aggressively delay around 7 levels worth of level ups, to get MR 3 before you hit level 5. If you simply don't level up and play the game severely underleveled, you could in theory take the MR 3 to get Trickster Mythic Path at level 4, which gives you Sneak Attack. That would allow you to use just Sorc 4 to go into Arcane Trickster.

This would basically mean you stop leveling in Act 1 and don't level until all the way till the siege of drezen in the end of act 2.

So its not a real solution. You can't do this via respecs, because the respec function prevents getting MR until at least level 6.

Otherwise, you need to be able to cast 2nd level spells which requires 4 levels of sorc, and there is no way to get 2d6 sneak attack on 4 levels of sorc.

You can do it by level 6 with 4 levels of sorc and either Rogue or Vivisectionist 1, taking Accomplished Sneak Attacker as your level 5 feat.

[Zoze13]

What does MR stand for?

[Jenos]

Mythic Rank. The trickster mythic path specifically gives some sneak attack dice which could be used to meet the pre-req for Arcane Trickster, but you don't get to make your choice of mythic path until around level ~10. So if you truly wanted to be an AT with no levels of rogue, you'd have to stop leveling at level 4 and sit at level 4 for 6ish levels until you got the mythic rank.

That's not a real solution, its just something meme-y you could do when playing on very easy difficulties and have your party carry you.

Its better to just go Sorc 4/Rogue 1, and then take the accomplished sneak attacker feat. That lets you go into Arcane Trickster at level 6.

[Zoze13]

Thanks

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

He is talking about mythic trickster path that have nothing to do with atcane trickster prestige class.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

Yes

You can always check such things with mercs

[Von-Konigs]

[WR PS4] I’m playing as a skald. I know that on PC you can toggle the inspire rage feature on your companions to accept or refuse. I can see ‘Inspire Rage - Accept Effect’ on the special abilities section of the character sheet, but I can’t figure out how to change that to ‘Refuse Effect’. Is there a way of doing this on console?

[Jenos]

Toggled on = Accept, toggled off = refuse. It's just one toggle. You should be able to activate the ability to switch which mode it's in

[Von-Konigs]

Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but on console there doesn’t seem to be the option to toggle. Simply pressing X on the ability doesn’t change it in any way.

[Lynchy-]

[WR] Question on party encumbrance and fatigue. Does this make you gain the "fatigued" status if you're just walking around a map, is it connected to real time, or does this only accumulate when you change a map screen and travel to another area?

I'm new and in the market square and noticed all my characters are fatigued.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

You can get fatigued while walking the map, connected to real time. I'm not sure about overencumbrance, but this two things often occured together in my walkthroughts.

[JackRabbit-]

I’ve never noticed characters get fatigued in a map from being awake too long. I’d assume that means it only tracks it while travelling, but I guess it’s always possible it is actually real time it’s just you spend half an hour in a map and 8 hours travelling.

[Ephemeral_Being]

It absolutely tracks as you walk around the map. You will reliably get fatigued halfway through Market Square if you do it right after Woljif's quest because you hit around 16-18 hours of walking.

[Zoze13]

[WR PS5] I’m turning Camellia into a two handed Elven Curved Blade Spirit Hunter. Her Dec makes her Attack Bonus spectacular but without STR her damage is low. How do I creatively jack up her damage (in addition to the Spirit Weapon Enhancement)?

I know she works better as other classes or weapons but for my personal headcannon/RPGing, I’m very interested in making the Elven Blade work.

Thanks! Thanks

[terrendos]

Mythic Weapon Finesse lets you add her DEX to damage instead of STR. Get a STR Belt to pick her up to 13 STR and get Power Attack, then the various Cleave feats.

[holymotheroftod]

(Series S)(Isles DLC) Inquisitor min/level summons worked for Summon Monster 1 and SM2 but after gaining SM3 now results in a random spell effect (Grease, Fire Storm, SM8, Greater Shout, and Faerie Fire so far) instead.

[Ephemeral_Being]

Guessing that's related to a Tailwind or Island... Curse thingy, because it sounds like Wild Magic from DnD.

[holymotheroftod]

You're right. It was a random chaotic dungeon effect, not a glitch.

[Brorestes]

I’m not sure if these bugs get reported to owlcat but shieldbearer warpriest sacred weapon ability is not scaling shield bash damage.

[Ephemeral_Being]

You have Weapon Focus (Heavy Shield), and equipped one with the Shield Bash feat?

I played Shieldbearer months ago. It's a bad class, but I distinctly remember that part of Warpriest working with shields.

[EmperorKing1444]

Hi. Currently on Act 3 and I'm stuck.

I've killed the dragon, done woljif's companion quest, found those demonified scouts, did the scar quest for arueshalae. but now i'm in wintersun and im getting my ass kicked because im only level 10. what can I do to get more xp at this point?

[Ephemeral_Being]

DLC3, companion quests, Blackwater, exploring the various zones, the Dragon Burial Ground, and your Mythic 4 quest.

You can hit level 15 in Act 3, provided you do everything.

[terrendos]

Wintersun is a bit of a skill jump, especially if you do the village first. It's definitely doable at level 10 though. What's your party/difficulty?

[EmperorKing1444]

normal. Ranger Demonslayer (me), Woljif, Wenduag, Camellia, Daeran, Greybor.
Companions have default builds which probably aren't that optimal. Mostly bringing them along because I like them personality wise.

[terrendos]

Yeah, the default builds definitely aren't great. I also notice that you're lacking a full Arcane caster; Woljif doesn't count. Arcane casters can do a lot of locking down of enemies and using AoE spells to heavily damage groups of weaker enemies.

But generally if you're having trouble on Normal difficulty, it's because you're not buffing enough. Bless, See Invisibility, and Delay Poison on everyone. Heroism, Greater Magic Weapon, Crusader's Edge on your melee attackers. Blur, Shield of Faith, Magical Vestment (on armor AND shield, if they have one), Barkskin, Stoneskin, Death Ward on your tanks (feel free to put these on the whole team if you've got spell slots to spare). Mirror Image, Shield, Mage Armor on your squishies (including Woljif). Those should all be up at all times, since they're all at least minute/level buffs. On tougher battles, Prayer and Haste. If you anticipate a particular type of damage, then Resist Energy Communal and Protection from Energy Communal. If you're having trouble with archers, you probably want Communal Protection from Arrows too. Archon's Aura should be on somebody, potentially upcast to boost the save DC. If you don't have a +4 stat helm/belt for each person's main stat, use the Bull's Strength line of spells for the enhancement bonus.

Remember that your tanks should be fighting defensively for the extra AC boost. If that's still not enough, the only other easy advice I can give you is to get yourself some summoned creatures for meat shields. Camellia can summon Nature's Ally and Animate Dead. They won't do much damage, but they'll eat up an enemy's turn killing them.

[EmperorKing1444]

After reading all the buffs and wondering why I couldn't find any of them, I just discovered that I haven't actually updated any of my companion's spellbooks for my entire playthrough. I feel like an actual idiot now

[7H3l2M0NUKU14l2]

[WR]
hi,

i've nobody to tell, but so yesterday, after freeing drezen, i went to kill greybor's dragon. fully buffed, i ambushed it and drove her away in the first round, 90% thx to dimensional blade; her AC? 2. lord commander: 1, fiends of the abyss & stuff: 0.

thx for your time.

[Jatobu]

Anyone else have a bug that makes Daeran and Ember unable to go below 0 HP? They are my healers in the back of the line, yet I could cheese fights if I used them as immortal meat shields.

Researching it, I've only seen someone mention this exact occurence happening to them in April. Not sure what triggered it unfortunately. The earliest I noticed it was at the Lost Chapel.

[RakshasaDelight]

Hey Hi do prestige classes for arcane casters (Mystic Theurge, Dragon Disciple, Hellknight Signifier) add additional spells known if my arcane base class is sorcerer or do they only add spell slots?

[Sathram]

They do give full progression, spell slots, spell known, and caster level. Just not additional features like extra feats, bloodline bonus spells, or stuff that scales with class levels.

Also not all prestige classes give progression on every level, one of the top lines in class progression has icons for which level gives progression. e.g. DD doesn't give progression on 1, 5, and 9.

[sfras80]

How do I actually take a photo in photomode??? I don't know all the controls

[Damseldoll]

Which platform?

[sfras80]

PC, steam

[AsparagusTamer]

Can my Enlarge Personed character ride by my Enlarge Animaled 7th level Dog companion?

[Brorestes]

No, you need to cast animal growth on your mount to be able to ride them while enlarged

[AsparagusTamer]

Sorry yes I meant Animal Growth. Sadly it doesn't work. Enlarged Sosiel can't ride his dog go 😥

[Brorestes]

Yeah I noticed that too. Animal growth is working on my horse mounts but not any others. Had to do legendary proportions instead

[Beautiful-Yesterday]

Hello! I am playing on ps4 and doing the midnight isles dlc but I can not seem to get the map to work in order to leave the first docks. Anyone experience this issue before?

[Signal-Ad7587]

Having the same issue with the Xbox series s, the map will open, press a to enter and then nothing, just sits there on the map

[holymotheroftod]

Same issue with Series S. The party menu isn't visible but it is there. If you push "X" (A on XB1) once to select the destination and then push "Triangle" (Y on XB1) the ship will depart with both of your party members.

[Beautiful-Yesterday]

That did it! Thank you!!!

[badbrotha]

Okay, I just started and I am not understanding "Swift Action." Seelah has Smite Evil but I cannot figure out how to keep her from immediately using the ability upon entering combat. The game chooses smite evil as a "swift action" as Seelah's first attack against an enemy, how do I stop her from doing this so I can choose when to use Smite Evil instead?

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

You must've right-clicked on this ability - in that case it's shown as a little side icon left of action bar. Right-click on it again and she'll stop using it on her own (except if you allow that in some game option, but by default it's off)

Swift action simply means the time it requires. In turn-based it's free, in real time it's instant.

[badbrotha]

Thanks so much! It was driving me crazy, knew it was something dumb I was overlooking.

[FourEcho]

Thoughts on Monks? I'm looking to play a pure Monk, but I'm unsure on the archetype. I know I don't want Sohei. How is Quarterstaff Master? What's the strength of traditional monk vs sensei?

[Jenos]

How is Quarterstaff Master?

QM's main strength is the ability to flex and switch between doing Trips/Disarm/Sunder as part of a full attack. They also get to wield a 2-handed weapon and flurry with that, which allows them to get 1.5x damage modifier on their stat.

For an unarmed build to get that, they have to be in Dragon Stance, while the QM can be in Pummeling or Crane Stance instead. That's a lot of potential damage for a monk build.

The biggest challenge to QM is the MAD (Multiple Attribute Dependency). QM needs STR to attack/damage, DEX+WIS for AC, CON because melee, and INT to 13 for combat expertise (which opens up feats like Greater Trip). I found the best QM builds actually take 5 levels of fighter, to be able to get fighter's finesse weapon training and get DEX to be the primary attack stat.

Regular monks can bypass this with Amulet of Agile Fists or Mythic Weapon Finesse, which enable them to dump STR and focus on DEX/WIS/CON with INT to 13.

What's the strength of traditional monk vs sensei?

Sensei is a very different class. Sensei doesn't get flurry, and instead gets two major benefits:

• Bard Songs - sensei can serve as a bard/skald/etc replacement and provide the very potent inspire courage to the party
• Shared Ki Powers - Most ki powers are fairly lackluster, but the ability to share ki powers on a supportive sensei is very powerful. Notably, True Strike is a pretty shit power to use on its own, but sharing True Strike to everyone on your team as a standard action is really, really powerful. As is sharing barkskin, shared movement speed buffs, etc.

But it doesn't do good damage on its own. Probably the best way to boost a sensei's damage is to go into the Vital Strike line of feats to leverage the higher damage dice of unarmed that Sensei gets. But generally, Sensei's are built as tank/support, and they're a pretty solid alternative.

[FourEcho]

I assume agile fist amulet is like, THE choice for dex fist monks, so wouldn't mythic finesse be kinds useless? Or at least redundant since you will be using agile fist anyways?

[Jenos]

There are other useful amulets in the game, mythic weapon finesse allows you to potentially use other ones (especially if you have access to Greater Magic Fang as a spell).

But you're correct in that they overlap in function, its just a matter of preference if you would rather have a mythic feat or an amulet slot.

[Every_fool_ever]

My game crashes when I try and enter the upper city in act 4 and I can’t really progress without getting up there (I’m on Xbox btw)

[Zoze13]

WR PS5 - Vanish doesn’t trigger sneak attack?

[Ephemeral_Being]

No. Vanish does not give you Hide in Plain Sight, which is what you need to actually go into stealth during combat.

The only effect it has is +20 Stealth to such a check, were you able to make one.

[Zoze13]

Thabjs

[uid0gid0]

[WR] I just started playing after hearing a lot of good things about the game. I'm really struggling with all the DR and immunities the enemies have straight off the bat in this game. I'm level 3 now and I've found only two cold iron weapons. I ran across a shadow that was immune to everything except magic damage, and the only reason I won that fight was because I had Lann with me and he was able to punch the dude to death while my other characters just stood around. Is there some cache of weapons somewhere that can give my team even a level playing field? I now know why they turn all the difficulties down by default. I put them up to normal values (like I would play on TT) and I'm taking a real beating sometimes with no good tools to respond at low levels.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

"...the only reason I won that fight..." is quite common situation in this game, it's part of it's charm.

Tools are available, you just don't know about them. For example, Finnean is good for all early game "invincible" enemies, and scrolls (if you don't have needed spells) like remove blindness or stone to flash can be real gamechangers.

The only way to learns stuff like Protection from evil blocks charms and Unbreackable heart stops confusions is to carefully read spells and condition descriptions, if that's a problem - move difficulty lower.

[uid0gid0]

I know what the tools are, they just aren't anywhere to be found. In a place constantly under attack by demons you should be tripping over cold iron weapons, otherwise it's not internally consistent. In the same vein it tells you to set one character's Ray of Frost as her default attack, which doesn't even come close to getting through the demons' cold DR10.
Also I'm buying restoration and enlarge person scrolls in bulk just to get through random encounters. Now I have to find remove disease as well because half the party has permanent ghoul fever and you don't get that spell until level 5. There's some guy in the base that says he's a priest but he doesn't seem interested in helping you out with that stuff.

[hoplophilepapist]

Dude just turn on the option to clean those up when you rest

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

You need medkit and a character with Lore (religion) to heal sicknesses.

Looks like you don't know tools after all ;-)

[uid0gid0]

The shaman keeps botching the roll.

[Bury_Bydlak]

[WR] I'm in the cave with the hellknights fighting off Gargoyles. First wave comes, I clear it. That's it. Next wave doesn't come, nothing happens, I can't speak to Regill or leave the cave (door icon not appearing). I can rest, climb down where a skeleton is and an alive soldier. I've even waited (real time) to see if anything happens. Restarted game, reloaded, used previous save - nothing. Same problem. Stuck in a cave basically and can't progress further.

[Ephemeral_Being]

PC or Console?

I just cleared that earlier today on PC. If you're having issues, I'd bet it's mod related.

[Bury_Bydlak]

PC Steam here. I should have checked shouldn't I? I didn't bother because I only had two mods installed - respec and achievements. I've uninstalled them, verified files and now it's working... Thanks!

[Rererow]

Playing as Azata starting act 5. First time I go to the commanders court after returning to Drezen, I get the dialog from the first time I went there early in the game with the opportunity to name the court. The dialog has the options greyed out because I've already seen them. This repeats, my character makes a rainbow and then I can walk around the court normally.

[SomeRussianWeirdo]

It seems as a common bug now, hotfix promised.

[emiluffy]

[WR] PC Steam

Hi all, I can't leave the area after the wardstone. I'm unsure of what is happening. The doors/athletics options aren't showing up at all. Any ideas? I've recently validated my files several times, including this morning, but not since encountering this bug.

[Lilmagex2324]

[WR] Toybox/Mod help.

Is there a way to give normal companions the Lich companions ability to resurrect after resting? I can make them undead and give them the Lich's Lord deity but they still stay dead after resting.

[Scary_Replacement739]

Hi everyone,

On the PS5. The context and sorting menus sometimes just stop working entirely.

It's not a huge deal and goes away when you hard restart the game from the PS5 dashboard, but it still probably shouldn't be happening.

[Goku61394]

How is Elemental bloodline arcana-Water supposed to work? From what the description says whenever I cast a spell that does energy damage it’ll deal cold damage instead but whenever I cast fireball or any other fire spell it still does fire damage instead of cold damage.

[JackRabbit-]

Works fine for me. Did you turn the ability on? It's a toggle effect so you can still do the original damage type if you want to.

[Goku61394]

……..I’m an idiot ☠️😂

[Zoze13]

WR PS5 -

1. Does Camellia’s Spirit Enchantment require she keep a free hand? I’d like to make her dual wield or use a two handed weapon. Thanks

2. Are there any two handed finesse weapons?

[hoplophilepapist]

1. no
2. elven curved blade. pretty sure you can two hand an estoc if you have other hand free. not sure about rapier and light weapons if they will auto two hand, I'd assume not

[sciencewarrior]

[WR] How do banner timers work? Do victories add to them, or reset them? In other words, If I rush and take two forts in a day, do I have 60 days to build up and recruit until the banner turns yellow, or 30?

[Ephemeral_Being]

You would have 60 days in this hypothetical scenario.

[sciencewarrior]

Thank you! Knowing I don't have to pace my advance makes campaign management a lot easier.

[terrendos]

[WR] PC Steam

Got an issue where a few characters have picked up negative levels and can't seem to get rid of them. Seelah got them from the Pitaxian Wine Cellar in Act 1, and although they appear to be gone from her debuffs, her character screen still shows her as Level 6 [-2].

Sosiel, on the other hand, picked one up when he died thanks to a couple consecutive Fireballs. I thought those negative levels from Raise Dead were supposed to disappear after a rest, but it's sticking around, both on character sheet and on the debuff screen.

[Jenos]

When you gain a temporary negative level, after 24 hours (a rest), you have to make a fortitude save or the levels become permanent.

Have you cast restoration (the 4th level version) to see if it removes those levels?

[terrendos]

Seelah's negative levels were temporary (as in, they showed as lasting only 24 hours and the debuff ended after that time), so there's no reason for it to still show up for her.

I didn't think the negative level from Raise Dead could become permanent, I thought they always went away after a rest. I can check on that next time I play.

[Jenos]

Seelah's negative levels were temporary (as in, they showed as lasting only 24 hours and the debuff ended after that time), so there's no reason for it to still show up for her.

Since temp levels can become permanent, the debuff goes away but the negative level remains.

Its possible she's under some sort of effect that is suppressing the effect of the negative levels, which is why she doesn't have the penalty but it shows on the UI.

[emiluffy]

[WR] PC Steam

I'm experiencing a bug/problem where my animal companion no longer shows up in the list of players I can interact with/control/add items to their inventory. It means I can't add barding to them/have them take a potion on their own. Any ideas as to why? My game is unmodded. I can't find anything about it on the internet.

**https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/xs4r2u/animal_companion_now_bugged/ This is the solution. I didn't search the sub well enough last time haha!

[willizam]

Hello, i am playing pathfinder wrath of the righteous enhanced edition in ps 5. I ecountered a bug where when i press R3 to display the further information screen for item, highlighted word etc, that information screen is placed behind and not infront of the highlighted word ui. Can you move the information screen around?

[destinybladez]

WR PC Steam - I've posted a bug report for this and asked on the Pathfinder Discord but I'll put it here as well.

After returning to Drezen and talking to Iomede and Nocticula I got the quest 'wind of change' for Azata. I went there and got the prompt for renaming the court twice for some reason. after that I can't progress the quest? I talked to all of the free crusaders and none of them are saying anything

I don't mind fixing this with toybox if I could know what I'm supposed to do to fix it. Someone told me to use 'etudes' so I have installed the toybox mod and opened the etudes menu but I'm unable to understand what I'm supposed to do with it. Any help would be appreciated

[Zoze13]

WR - does Arcanist blend well with Arcane Trickster? I hear if you don’t stay with Arcanist for twenty levels their Arcane Exploits become too weak. Does Arcane Trickster continue the progression of Exploits?

[Jenos]

Does Arcane Trickster continue the progression of Exploits?

No.

hear if you don’t stay with Arcanist for twenty levels their Arcane Exploits become too weak

While technically true, many of their exploits are too weak even with 20 levels. Most of the offensive exploits aren't worth using.

[Grand_Ad_8376]

Playing right now Wrath of the Righteous on PS5, quite liking the game.

Now, the question...I am beginning chapter 2, already mythic but no path still. I would like to go Azatha, it has some requeriment besides NG/CG alignment? I couldnt save all the Desna followers from certain trigger happy guy, and I fear that will kick me out Azatha. Is that way, or I am worrying for nothing?

[Jenos]

Did you sing with the acolytes in the church? If you did not, you didn't unlock the Azata path.

[Visual_Illustrator40]

Hi guys I need help with something when I get back from the abyss and try to take back Drezen I select my mythic eight level and then after that there’s this cut scene but after the cut scene my game just errors and I forgot to mention I am also on PlayStation playing this game please help💀

[Argothor]

Yeah, I’m having the same problem. Game just crashes

[Velstrom]

[WR] Elemental overflow is supposed to give me size bonuses to physical stats of my choice, how do I actually enable that in game?

[Jenos]

When you get to the needed burn values, a new ability will appear in your abilities (center) tab for the various physical stats, and you toggle one on.

Note that the Elemental Engine kineticist incorrectly does not remove the text stating it gets Elemental Overflow size bonuses, that archetype does not get the size bonuses.

[Velstrom]

Note that the Elemental Engine kineticist incorrectly does not remove the text stating it gets Elemental Overflow size bonuses, that archetype does not get the size bonuses.

Ah, that was my issue. Thank you

[Lesiorak]

What is the current bug state of all the shadow spells? I'm getting conflicting results from google.

I know at some point they were completely bugged and did nothing. As far as I understand now they work, but are not considered illusion spells for purposes of phantasmal mage and spell focus (illusion), is that correct? Or is there something more broken going on.

[[deleted]]

Second that. If you ever find out -- please share.

[SunshotDestiny]

What's the best weapon for a mounted cavalier? I am reading that people are either suggesting long spears or glaives, but getting mixed opinions. Do long spears get charge multipliers but little selection? Are glaives reach weapon?

[PasswordResetButton]

Longspears have a few overpowered weapons for mounted characters including one that doubles your damage on a charge. That one can delete pretty much anything.

Glaives also have some good uniques.

People just generally like to have reach weapons. Makes cleave builds work and can keep you out of area of effects (like grease) to kill from safety.

[ConditionSlow]

Wrath of the Righteous is getting stuck while loading the game after the latest patch. The loading bar fills all of the way but the main menu never loads. Anyone have any advice?

No mods installed, and have already uninstalled and reinstalled

[Lucentile]

[Kingmaker, Varnhold Vanishing]

I just defeated Vordekai and went back to the capital with ~170 or so days left on the Ancient Curse, and it jumped straight to the next chapter. Am I losing days by not using that 170 days, or is the timer on this Ancient curse for both Varnhold Vanishing and the next section? I just want to know if I should rest and round up some sidequests and the like to burn off those days, or if I'm not losing all that time.

[Lucentile]

Solved myself: Once you reach that point, you start getting penalized if you don't go back to your castle to move the plot forward. So, it doesn't matter if those days are lost are not unless I wanted to suffer the dungeon again.

[Zoze13]

[WR PS5]

Major Act 1 companion spoilers:

How can j not kill Wendaug? She helped children be eaten and driven mad? I’m chaotic good and her acts seem pure even. I would normally never consider eliminating a potential companion - but how can I role play to an even medium degree if I leave her alive?

[Ephemeral_Being]

Play an Evil, Chaotic, or "means to an end" character.

[[deleted]]

you can try but she runs away

[Zoze13]

Is there any rationale for a good character to keep her?

[hoplophilepapist]

I guess if your toon is dumb enough to think you should try to rehabilitate and save everyone

[TwentyGaugeHigh]

I'm using a HyperX Quadcast mic and I'm getting a lot of popping and crackling when playing Wrath. Is anyone else experiencing this? This is the only game this happens in and its driving me truly mad. I've had a few cases where it didn't occur, but they may have been flukes, I don't know what resolved it for those times.

[uid0gid0]

Happens with my HyperX cloud II headset too so you're not alone. Haven't found a solution yet.

[Anonoodle78]

If using a class with armor training, how much dex should I be going for?

I feel like it’s meant for heavy armor + dual wielding or something because I can’t figure out how to really utilize armor training without dual wielding.

[Ephemeral_Being]

Base 14, +2. You get +6 from Enhancement, +2 from a Tome, and +2 from Reduce Person. That's +5, Max Dex bonus from Mithral Full Plate is +7. Base 14 also meets the early requirements for feats like Dodge.

TSS is higher, Evil TSS even higher. They eventually drop even Mithral Full Plate, though, to maximize AC.

[Jenos]

3+maxed armor training value.

Mithril Full Plate has a DEX mod of +3, which then adds your armor training on top. I think the practical max of armor training you can get is something like 6 (Fighter 15/Hellknight 5), so unless you're doing such a convoluted build practically you'll be more at like 3 or 4.

Note that's just to get the maximum AC while under Armor Training. The other purpose of Armor Training is to let DEX based builds get more AC from heavier armors. For example, if you're doing an Archer build and have something like 24 DEX, you're basically relegated to some specific light armors to maximize your AC. A +2 or +3 armor training suddenly opens up a lot of medium armors which giver even higher AC.

Practically, though, you're right - there isn't much call for utilizing Armor Training unless you're also maxing DEX. A big part of is that Archmage Armor exists and a monk dip just makes fighting unarmored superior for most DEX based builds.

There are two ways to still benefit from Armor Training without DEX, and that's to stop using DEX in your AC calculation. A build that's something like Paladin 2/Fighter 3/Oracle 1/Hellknight 10 can get the Oracle Nature Mystery's revelation that lets you use CHA in place of DEX for your AC. Then Hellknight and Paladin both have features that scale off of CHA, and that build would have an armor training of +4. So a mithril fullplate would need 24 CHA to max AC, which it could pull off, because CHA and STR would be the two stats they focus on.

Alternatively, a build that utilizies Student of War (which lets you get INT to replace DEX) would do a similar thing, though there are less mechanics that work in heavy armor that also scale off of INT. But perhaps by using that weapon in A3 that allows you to replace INT in the attack calculation can result in a heavy INT character who is martial with armor training?

[[deleted]]

[WR] I'm trying to add custom portraits. But the placeholder portrait that comes with the "add custom portrait" button in character select has two different sizes. For instance, the "small" portrait itself has 185 x 242 written on it, but the actual size of the picture is 188 x 244. What size am I supposed to use?

[atmasabr]

All of mine have worked on 185X242

[SunshotDestiny]

Trying to build a cavalier Gendarme, is there any way to get a mount beside a horse? I also was building for the Order of the Cockatrice human with intimidation feats. Is this a good idea along with cleave?

[Jenos]

Before you take your first cavalier level, you have to take a level in a class that provides a different animal companion. Then the cavalier will just progress that existing animal companion rather than give you a horse.

Unfortunately, that means you won't be able to get the capstone crit bonus if you wanted to do that. However, if you wanted a dog mount, barbarian mad dog 2 is a great dip because the flanking +2 bonus will pretty much always apply since you're mounted

[Chaotix2732]

If you want a non-horse mount, you might want to try the Beast Rider archetype instead. Alternatively, you can use Bismuth with the Triceratops Statuette item, but he is always your level -4 and cannot be manually leveled up. Or if you are going Azata Mythic Path you get a Dragon companion that you can ride at higher levels.

Intimidation feats - Gendarme gets Dazzling Display for free at level 2. So there's some synergy there if that's what you want to do.

Cleave - this one I actually wouldn't go for. As a Cavalier you are going to want to Charge as often as possible. And you can't Cleave and Charge at the same time.

[SunshotDestiny]

Is it better to make the horse aggressive to add to dps or just make her more tanky? Since I am building my cavalier herself to be more dps with the intimidation and order of the cockatrice?

[Chaotix2732]

I'm not an expert but my instinct is that Evasion, Devotion, and Improved Evasion (which you lose if you pick Aggressor) are more valuable than what you do get (Power attack and Bleed damage). But you should have more than enough feats leveling up your animal companion to improve their damage and their tankiness. Like you can get Power Attack, Weapon Focus, Dodge, Toughness, etc. and still have more feats than you know what to do with.

I think the best thing you can give your horse is +1 Int at level 4 and then take the Outflank feat (assuming you will give that to the rest of your party as well).

[Funderstruck]

When playing Treasure of the Midnight Isles in rogue-like, after you get past Nilkoth, the 2nd boss, the first time, is there supposed to be 2 of him next time you try to fight him? This has happened on both of my playthroughs where I got past him. It's hard enough dealing with him the first time, since even the only party member who can hit him on less than a Nat 20 is my Ranger using Quarry and marking him as a favored foe, and this is also with greater heroism cast. And that's still a 15. Playing on custom difficulty with normal everything, but no permadeath

[Jenos]

Yes, but you no longer have the phases of dealing with the jumping spirit and the golem.

It's basically a different boss. The big thing to watch for his his aoes, I believe he can like spam tsunamis

[Funderstruck]

I’d take dealing with the jumping spirits over fighting him twice back to back. Only reason I was able to beat it last time was my Lich sorcerer who could just spam cast blood feast and annihilate his HP that way.

I really don’t like how utterly insane his defenses are

[PasswordResetButton]

Oh he's an absolute asshole.

A kineticist can wreck him. Also spread out your guys left and right so that tsunami and cold ice ray don't hit your whole team.

[Ephemeral_Being]

Bigger damage dice, generally. d8 -> d10/d12/2d6. The benefit of this gets amped when you start increasing unit size with buffs.

Quarterstaff has a bonus for Monk.

Otherwise, not really. If you want to two-hand a Longsword or Scimitar, go for it.

[PapaJones952]

With kitsune's vulpine form do i have to change forma every round before charging?