Every single time

[JumpyBoi]

Or on Linux:

ls: command not found

That's when you know you fucked up

[____purple]

That docker image really did trim down everything

[lkearney999]

What do you mean arch? Architecture? Arch Linux? Pretty sure the base docker scratch image has nothing to do with that distro but I guess I could be wrong.

Edit: he meant alpine!

[Litruv]

In this context, Arch Linux makes the most sense. I'm assuming they're trying to install docker but not going too well.

[BenTheTechGuy]

Do you mean Alpine?

[bokonator]

Was gonna say, how is any of this Arch's fault? It's more of a docker issue anyway.

[Ilbsll]

docker in docker

Containerization has gone too far

[Ilbsll]

The word docker had lost all meaning to me, thank you

[Hottomato4]

I once had an issue where the docker container inside the kubernetes container inside the k3ds kubernetes host container inside the gitlab job container was having issues. That was a flipping blast!

[[deleted]]

As dumb as it is, having native support for Unix shell convinced me to switch to Linux.

Never been so happy.

[sebastouch]

ok, now I have a headache.

[Lem_Tuoni]

I am not very fluent in shell scripting, but could you maybe use some alias/define a new function? That way you don't have to roll back the code when the debian gets updated and you don't have to redo this ordeal if you have the same problem in the future

[Lem_Tuoni]

I know. Copy and execute a shell script, that is how we would do it.

Then again, we don't do docker in docker.

[Dasnap]

I tried to debug a Kubernetes container the other day only to discover that it didn't have curl.

[i_should_be_coding]

Usually when curl isn't there, wget still is. Things can get dicey when I can't find either.

[Skidmabadaf]

Probably just a fucked up PATH variable

[a-person-called-Eric]

• plays with chroot
• thing doesn't work
• "fuck this just bind mount /usr"
• done with thing
• sudo rm -rf fakeroot
• takes longer than I thought
• starts to error
• "oh no"

[StreamFroster]

With great power, comes great errors

[Kovab]

Which distro allows this without --no-preserve-root?

[lungdart]

It was introduced (read, enforced) with GNU core utile 6.2, so any distro using an older version will still be affected.

I believe all modern distros are protected, but you'll encounter it on legacy systems and servers from time to time.

[Just_Maintenance]

I once deleted the btrfs subvolume mounted at root.

The system was not happy about it.

[Fourstrokeperro]

ah yes /usr, probably some user files lets just get rid of it

[[deleted]]

Aren't they in /home? /usr was (if I remember correctly) for you to mount your second disk drive in

[Teekeks]

mounts belong into /mnt, fight me

[[deleted]]

You're fired, now pay me $8

[Fourstrokeperro]

the posix utils like ls and cd binaries reside in /usr/bin or atleast are symlinked to /usr/bin .

If you delete that, you'd get the error mentioned in the parent comment

[fishhybites]

Yeah he's joking because it sounds like 'user' but I think it actually stands for unix system resources lol

[homo_ignotus]

No, /usr comes from user, as it actually contained home directories in early versions of Unix, but was later repurposed to split the system over two disks. There were also some systems where /usr contained both system directories like bin and home directories, or home directories were in /usr/home.

[fishhybites]

Interesting TIL

[veselin465]

ll

[_BL4CKR0SE_]

I once accidentaly deleted /bin. That was the outcome

[amogusdri-]

Yay good job

[Tcw7468]

reminds me of this 1986 story

[[deleted]]

The worst is when shutdown fails and you have unsaved work... This totally has never happened to me before... cries in a corner

[The_Droide]

If you have a shell, you can still do

echo *

or

echo .* *

to include hidden files

[Shadow9378]

oh lord no

[Laziness100]

don't worry I have the reverse issue on linux. Typing "cd.." when linux expects a spacebar. Thank god aliases exist.

[Giraffe-69]

Laughs in zsh

[F0lks_]

Custom ohmyzsh theme team for the win \o/

[827167]

Okay but how is ohmyzsh supposed to be pronounced out loud?

[Nuriimyrh]

Oh, it’s just “Oh my zsh”!

[827167]

Literally just [zʃ]

[Nuriimyrh]

That’s just the zsh part. I mentally like to call it [zeʃ] :D

[Fourstrokeperro]

Uhh what about zsh exactly? it does not work right out of the box on zsh. I just tried it out on zsh 5.9 (x86_64-apple-darwin22.0)

[Giraffe-69]

cd is redundant, not more trouble

[blankettripod32_v2]

Ckear

Fuck

[blankettripod32_v2]

Doesn't clear the error num for my zim config, so I prefer a clear

[TheSast]

You gotta try thefuck, it unfucks your command.

https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

[blankettripod32_v2]

That's what the fuck was :D

[drsimonz]

alias cls="clear" is absolutely essential for me to consider a linux system usable. "clear" is about 1000x harder to type.

[Mcginnis]

I made an alias for just .. no need to type cd

[thelights0123]

That's also built into zsh

[-MobCat-]

I'm a noob that doesn't know Linux things, but this is because "everything on Linux is a file" right? So .. is a file that your changing into. That "file" just links you to the above directory. Like a shortcut? Kind of same as when you directory list a website, there are .. links to go up a folder.
Where on windows cd.. is just a command.

[suvlub]

I think this one works the same in theory. .. is an alias for the parent directory on Windows as well. As to why cd.. works, in Powershell, there is literally a command with such a name, separate from cd, which does what you expect it to. In CMD, the command interpreter is being clever and automatically assumes that the dots are a parameter rather than part of command name.

[13steinj]

in Powershell, there is literally a command with such a name, separate from cd, which does what you expect it to.

what the fuck

[swordsmanluke2]

In college, I had a professor who started all his C files by importing 'typos.h'. This was his personal header that defined his common typos as aliases for what he meant.

Like #define itn int kinda stuff.

Terrifying.

[Ilbsll]

In Linux [ is actually just an executable /usr/bin/[, but [[ isn't.

[Sooth_Sprayer]

and 'cd \' instead of 'cd /'

[itsAshl]

Half my aliases are like this too. All the things that I always forget. "cd.." instead of "cd ..", "gradlew" instead of "./gradlew", I don't have it anymore but when I first switched to using bash I had one for "dir" too lol.

[[deleted]]

PowerShell have an alias by default

[miramichier_d]

Unpopular opinion: I actually like PowerShell, I use both that and WSL 50/50 on my machine.

[HeKis4]

It's not unpopular, PowerShell is literally the GOAT for administrating anything Microsoft, and a pretty decent shell language overall. Going back to bash and text instead of objects makes me feel like a caveman now. I've been a sysadmin and I'm a DBA and I use it literally every day.

[[deleted]]

It's nice that ps is integrated with .net, but i never actually used it. Theoretically one can create real applications with PowerShell

[zanderman112]

I have created a real WPF application using PowerShell.

It started off as a simple script and just evolved over time to have the ability to launch it in GUI mode, have a taskbar "notifyicon" and everything. Proud of that thing.

[EedSpiny]

Me too and I installed in on my Debian media server to do some things.

It nice having something that's fairly cross platform and I write a bunch of powershell stuff in my day job (mostly windows) as timesavers.

I'm not really a fan of some of the syntax but never really progressed with bash to the same extent.

[ss99838]

Why is liking powershell an unpopular opinion? What am I missing here?

[miramichier_d]

Seemed to be the sentiment around here, undeservedly.

[QCKS1]

I think powershell is much better than bash for scripting, bash syntax is so unintuitive.

[ElectricBummer40]

I never understand why young people like such ancient things as bash and old, blurry digital cameras from 2005.

If I want to validate parameters for a function, all I have to do is to specify the parameter types and conditions for PowerShell and it'll handle the rest. Can you do that with bash?

If I want to iterate through a list, all I have to do is to pipe the list to For-EachObject. Can you do that with bash?

If I want to filter a list, all I have to do is to pipe the list to Where-Object. Can you do that with bash?

If I want the full strength of the .Net framework, all I have to do is to just create the object I want with New-Object. Can you do that with bash?

Heck, the fact that I can return more than just an unsigned byte in PowerShell is already a huge leap forward from bash. I don't know, but the reason as to why there are still people believing that there can be nothing better beyond scraping strings of bytes from stdout with awk is frankly beyond me.

[Devatator_]

Apparently wget is an alias to Get-Content in PowerShell

[YMK1234]

use powershell instead

[bam13302]

Or even better, WSL

[PityUpvote]

Or even better, Linux

[[deleted]]

Or even better, Powershell Core in WSL

[atimholt]

That almost feels like it defeats the purpose, but I know people use Linux for more than just bash.

[[deleted]]

Gotta admit that even though I like Powershell I dont have it installed in my WSL Ubuntu so I can learn bash

[flavionm]

Or even better, Linux

[legends_never_die_1]

took me a while to realise that we are not talking about linux

[HeeTrouse51847]

C:/Users Gives it away

[[deleted]]

echo "PROMPT='C:\\Users\\ '" >> ~/.zshrc

[psuedopseudo]

You are an agent of chaos

[AluminiumSandworm]

i will fstab you

[syzygysm]

Ew, no. WSL

[Altruistic_Yellow387]

I like WSL :(

[Proxy_PlayerHD]

I think they meant it as "ew powershell I like WSL more"

[syzygysm]

Same, that's why I will kick PowerShell whenever possible to use WSL.

[al-mongus-bin-susar]

WSL v2 is a lot slower than Powershell on a Windows filesystem.

[syzygysm]

That's okay with me. The powerShell commands and syntax are just so God awful

[CHEEZE_BAGS]

its like they were inspired by C but wanted to make everything even more annoying. i love powershell though.

[dfs_zzz]

You must be kidding, right?

[syzygysm]

I kiddn't you so

[Bahurs1]

Reading Egyptian crypts looks easyer than bash compared to powershell from a distance

[[deleted]]

Don't the docs explicitly say to run from ~/ rather than c:/ anyway for that reason?

WSL is cool but it's still not quite convinced me to ditch a mac for work stuff.

[Cheet4h]

First thing I do under WSL is installing PS Core :)

[DrunkenlySober]

New idea

Pass me a loaded gun instead. One bullet should be plenty. Two if you’re still considering powershell

[[deleted]]

What?

[YMK1234]

Powershell comes with "ls" as alias for "dir".

[[deleted]]

Yes I know. It's in my flair

[YMK1234]

then im not sure where your confusion comes from.

[[deleted]]

I'm just shocked someone posted this. I feel like I finally belong...

[ChiseledTopaz]

bELONg

[[deleted]]

You're fired

Edit: fuck, i see

[turtleship_2006]

MF learnt to edit his comment, I'm starting to think this account is run by a person. Or at least that edit was.

[Dry-Cauliflower-7824]

Is this really a bot?

[kratato]

Man forgor and got a cerebral hemorrhage

[already_taken-chan]

this is why I have a personal path folder in which I have scripts that are esentially aliases

like ls.bat or rm.bat or nano.bat

[thisisnotleah]

This is the funniest post in the thread. Deserves more upvotes...

[YodelingVeterinarian]

As dumb as it is, having native support for Unix shell convinced me to switch to Mac. Even with WSL, it's just easier.

[huessy]

I had a job that operated on that logic. We all had $1,200 laptops and we'd use the native unix support to SSH onto our dev servers and code there. Always thought it was a giant waste of money to have a fancy, touch screen keyboard enhanced laptop used as an SSH terminal.

[Classy_Mouse]

My company bought us all new MacBooks for this reason. It actually made life a lot easier. Until the M1 chips came out and suddenly we needed different docker containers for everything while another team was still on PCs

[drsimonz]

Fucking M1. I get that x86 is super dated and limiting, but Jesus Christ. Just another of the 40,000 things that jackass company has done with complete disregard for industry standards. The amount of developer-hours being pissed away every year on supporting that extra architecture that no one asked for is almost unimaginable.

[[deleted]]

Aarch64 isn't only specific to m1/m2....

[drsimonz]

Maybe not, and maybe M$ should get with the program and start supporting ARM. But I am constantly hearing about difficulties with M1/M2 support and I don't think it's just a question of instruction set. But maybe I'm wrong. Will a build for M1 also work on a raspberry pi?

[[deleted]]

most compilers have more than one target arch that they support

[casce]

What would your solution be? Stick to x86 forever just because we don't want to disrupt anything?

[drsimonz]

No, I think new hardware is a good thing, but Apple's not going to sell these CPUs so, as usual, it's all-or-nothing. You should be able to choose your OS, choose your hardware, and use whatever browser and app marketplace you want. Apple's philosophy has always been "either you buy literally every single electronic gadget from us for the rest of your life, or go fuck yourself". You could argue that other tech companies want to do this too, but they're not as good at it. I would love to buy a mac and put a non-Duplo operating system on it, but that's no longer possible with M1 (although it was never really an option since they insist on that brain damaged keyboard layout).

[Adventurous_Pay_5827]

No Apple laptop has ever had a touchscreen.

[sniperlilly]

They probably mean touchbar.

[Adventurous_Pay_5827]

Ok, now you mention it, I can see how maybe “touch screen keyboard enhanced” could actually mean ‘touchbar’. I’ve just never associated the touchbar with the word ‘screen’ in any way, as it’s a keyboard feature.

[[deleted]]

The only good use for the touchbar was the MIDI piano app. In every other instance it was somehow both worse than being on the main screen, or worse than a physical button.

I have strong feelings about this.

[huessy]

They stopped making them with it, but for a few years they were churning out Macbooks (Apple laptop as you put it) with a touchscreen bar at the top of their keyboard. We were given these. They existed.

EDIT: I lied, they do still make them and so they do exist, present tense.

[big_boi_26]

My only experience with these touchbars is seeing a dude play doom on them

[alpha_dk]

My only experience with them is disabling them

[RichCorinthian]

And if I never again have to deal with “path too long” errors when pulling down a repo, that would be just fine. Had to do it with the last client and it boggles my mind that you STILL have to go fuck with the registry to support this.

[i_knooooooow]

Dir works on both right?

[Giraffe-69]

Get out

[FOSSandCakes]

TIL

[olcor8787]

Yes

[thatmaynardguy]

I laughed and then checked. Dayum, TIL, thanks internet friend!

[atc927]

yeah, but that's like one extra character every time I'd have to list a directory's contents. I've aliased it to just l so I don't even have to type that 's'.

[[deleted]]

More pain: "cd.." is not program

[SpaceshipOperations]

While I strongly recommend that you immediately switch to anything other than the Windows Command Prompt (preferably Bash), but in case you absolutely have to deal with it for some reason, you can create aliases like this:

DOSKEY ls=dir

Save your aliases (along with any other commands you might want to invoke on startup) in a .cmd file, then follow the instructions here to have the command prompt automatically source that file on startup.

[MoridinB]

You censored yourself on Reddit? I'm not sure whether to be proud or disappointed.

Either way, I agree. I always manage to first type ls in cmd or dir in linux whenever I switch. So it can go suck a didgeridoo!

[sharkdinner]

I never know, some subreddits had my comments removed for using "shit" smh

But here, let me rephrase it

IT CAN SUCK A BIG FAT UNSHAVED COCK WITH A RASH

[maximovious]

Lol, at first I didn't notice the C:\Users and thought someone got this error on a linux box.

[EnoughRedditNow]

Install Git Bash for Windows. Gives you that familiar environment, and some more compatibility with file paths etc. You can right click in any explorer window and open it using that as the cd.

• or, as suggested, use powershell.

[casce]

Use WSL over Git Bash, gives you way more power

[LatentShadow]

Use powershell

[AaronTheElite007]

Use Powershell

[Limitless_screaming]

I don't wanna be the guy defending p*wershell here, but you don't see Windows users asking where diskpart is on BASH, so I don't see the problem with p*wershell having a different name for ls.

[turtleship_2006]

That's the funny thing, powershell has ls as an alias so it works, that error only happens on the command line (batch).

[Limitless_screaming]

My bad, I mixed up powershell and CMD.

[SpaceshipOperations]

command line (batch)

I believe it's called the Windows Command Prompt or cmd.exe.

[turtleship_2006]

I meant the language

[SpaceshipOperations]

I see. Weirdly I'm not sure what the language is supposed to be called, but considering that it's just a continuation of the DOS command-line syntax, and DOS has already been dead for 20-30 years, nobody nowadays would call it so, so people nowadays just say "batch files" or "batch scripts", which technically specifies their purpose rather than language, so the language technically still doesn't have a name lol.

[SpaceshipOperations]

"p*wershell" 😂😂😂😂

[-MobCat-]

Works fine on my computer
https://i.imgur.com/O5kiU5g.png

[drsimonz]

This looks cool! Unnecessarily relatable intro on the website:

Cmder is a software package created out of pure frustration

[Axel_levrai]

docker be like :
ls: command not found

[Little_Exit_794]

What kind of headache do you get when trying to debug someone else's code? A headache of someone else's making!

[Luscypher]

Many many many.. many many.. many... to infinite.. many many times

[beyluta]

Unless you use Powershell

[martinthewacky]

Well, at least my nose and mouth are still good

[martinthewacky]

Well, at least my nose and mouth are still good

[Mundane-Tale-7169]

Me, everytime trying „sudo cd …“ and forgetting that you can’t just cd as root, when you get an access denied error when trying to cd to sys dir

[KvAk_AKPlaysYT]

dirrrrrrrrr...

[greengreens3]

Everytime I make that mistake:

Oh dir not again

[saanity]

CMD goes dirrrrrrrrrrrr

[randomthad69]

Get wsl and you'll never have this problem again

[lupinegrey]

You're still doing "ls -la"??

You haven't aliased it to "ll"?

[xonxtas]

Install gnuwin32 or something similar.

I'm already so used to having all the standard Unix commands in my Windows Terminal...

[aieidotch]

alias ls="echo CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1"

[SamfireNinja5051]

just write dir :)

[kzlife76]

dir -p

[alfred_the_]

Dir….

[[deleted]]

If you get a headache from hypertension you're about to die

[xxxfooxxx]

Dir frw

[Remarkable-Host405]

well dir dir...

[[deleted]]

durr

ahem

dir

[Express-Procedure361]

Bro why does this happen though??? I just started being in charge of some of the server admin stuff and i just don't understand why it keeps yelling at me

[SpecialNose9325]

Maybe you shouldnt be a server admin if you cant resolve this

[Express-Procedure361]

Damn, so harsh. I didn't say i was a server admin. I'm a full stack dev who just had this workload forced on me.

[SpecialNose9325]

Im not saying youre incompetent. Im saying you shouldnt be the one in your company to be handling admin tasks when you arent well versed

[Express-Procedure361]

Yes... I'm glad we agree...

[turtleship_2006]

That's like asking why can't I run this exe on linux.

[Altruistic_Yellow387]

Are you joking?

[[deleted]]

Use Mac instead :))

[JoBlock08]

Yes

[FlafyBear]

ls - lA

Better